我知道这题以前的讨论讲很多遍了, 但我不太能接受........
那个NN能再讲讲........thanx
89. A recent national study of the public schools shows that there are now one microcomputer for every thirty-two pupils, four times as many than there were four years ago.
(A) there are now one microcomputer for every thirty-two pupils, four times as many than there were
(B) there is now one microcomputer for every thirty-two pupils, four times as many than there were
(C) there is now one microcomputer for every thirty-two pupils, four times as many as there were
(D) every thirty-two pupils now have one microcomputer, four times as many than there were（C）
(E) every thirty-two pupils now has one microcomputer, four times as many as
Choices A, B, and C appropriarely use the construction “one X for every thirty-two Y’s” to describe the ratio of computers to pupils, but only C, the best answer, is error-free. In A, are does not agree with the subject, one microcomputer; furthermore, in A, B, and D, than is used where as is required. Choices D and E reorder and garble the “one X...” construction, making four times as many refer illogically to pupils.
主要是(C)与(E)的不同:
(C) there is now one microcomputer for every thirty-two pupils, four times as many as there were
疑点一: 为何four times as many as 修饰 every thirty-two pupils 不好, 是illogical???
疑点二: four times as many as 是修饰啥? 像OG-(E)讲的一定修饰主语吗??
疑点三: 如果照之前的讨论, (C)中的four times as many as 是修饰前面的比率 one computer for every thirty-two pupils, 那为何后面用were呢???
four times as many as 有没有可能修饰 (C)中的every thirty-two pupils呢??
谢谢......我认同你说的一个整体概念的意思.....
但不知道你说的是不是比率的关系, 如果是的话, 后面的four times as many as也应该表达比率的关系, 也应该用单数谓语吧......
还是后面是伴随结果的关系....但为何用were呢??
不知道我的认知有无错误???
对的, 从本题的意思上讲, 它修饰every thirty-two pupils 是不合逻辑的. 如果真要修饰every thirty-two pupils, 那就应该说one fourth as many as.. 是从前一台电脑对应人数的四分之一.
修饰one microcomputer for every thirty-two pupils.
不知道啥是OG, 哈哈..
只有表示一个的绝对的单数个体或者不可数名词才可以用was, is, does.....
可数名词的分数形式也是和倍数形式一样, 用were, are, do.. 所以即使这里是1/32, 也用复数.
例如: Averagely speaking, there are 1/32 computers for each student in our school.
没有可能, 理由同第一个问题的回答.
哈哈, 狗狗.. 猫可在这里显丑啦.. 都不知道GMAT咋回事, 就乱讲一通..
嘿嘿， 难得看到T在这里
狗狗一定要赶鸭子上架啦.. 否则我哪好意思到这里来搅局.. 嘻嘻..
狗狗一定要赶鸭子上架啦.. 否则我哪好意思到这里来搅局.. 嘻嘻..
讲这样, 放一个大牛猫在情缘区晃, 倒不如摆在数学区或是逻辑语法阅读任一区来得强.....
总比被鼠辈狂骂好......呵呵......
讲这样, 放一个大牛猫在情缘区晃, 倒不如摆在数学区或是逻辑语法阅读任一区来得强.....
总比被鼠辈狂骂好......呵呵......
只有表示一个的绝对的单数个体或者不可数名词才可以用was, is, does.....
可数名词的分数形式也是和倍数形式一样, 用were, are, do.. 所以即使这里是1/32, 也用复数.
例如: Averagely speaking, there are 1/32 computers for each student in our school
阿T讲的这个我补充一下:
我看到语法书讲到:
in most expression of quantity, the verb is determined by the noun (or pronoun) that follows of
(1) two-third of the money is mine.
(2) two-third of the pennies are mine.
跟阿T讲的一样.....
继续回复狗狗：
were也是那个整体的概念
因为实际上这个单数还是复数呢？
实际上比较的是电脑的数量
还有就是， GMAT的语法一定是比较出来的， 把不好的不乖的都排除了， 剩下一个马马虎虎就可以了
所有瘸子里面挑将军， 就是这个意思
谢谢南瓜m, 这点我想过, 就好像我以前有讨论过OG164一样:
http://forum.chasedream.com/dispbbs.asp?BoardID=23&ID=53201
但是前面讲电脑对学生比例, 后面讲电脑数量当做补语...怪怪的.....
Q. 那后面用were有效吗??可以用was指比率吗??
麻烦GMAT神手南瓜与GRE神手阿T看看, 你们的认为呢.....cc
PS: 替阿T向南瓜m介绍, 阿T是GRE神手; 向阿T介绍南瓜M, 南瓜M是GMAT神手........cc
希望能理解1stzhang那个SC的贴, 经典的经典三板斧. 反复看多次, 记住他说的话.
http://forum.chasedream.com/dispbbs.asp?BoardID=23&ID=3287
狗狗再读读这个吧
偶是反复看的
To南瓜: 好的....狗狗先拜读了.....
不知道啥是OG, 哈哈..
To阿T:
OG的全名是Official Guide for GMAT(Graduate Management Admission Test) Review,
我看阿T读完阿博干脆来念MBA算了...那么强的牛猫.....cc
我想到三种可能性:
(1) four times as many as there were xxx computers(按南瓜m讲的, 指的是整体性的电脑的数量)
(2) four times as many as there were 1/128 computers for each student (按阿T讲的指的是比例的整体关系)
(3) four times as many as there was one computer for each 128 pupils (我的想法)
我想我知道了......谢谢阿T与南瓜.......thanx.....
咳, 狗狗, 你想的结果呢?我正看得起劲呢!
嘻嘻, 我想我也知道了
"只有表示一个的绝对的单数个体或者不可数名词才可以用was, is, does.....
可数名词的分数形式也是和倍数形式一样, 用were, are, do.. 所以即使这里是1/32, 也用复数."
嗯,这样就解决了疑惑,谢谢
我想到三种可能性:
(1) four times as many as there were xxx computers(按南瓜m讲的, 指的是整体性的电脑的数量)
(2) four times as many as there were 1/128 computers for each student (按阿T讲的指的是比例的整体关系)
(3) four times as many as there was one computer for each 128 pupils (我的想法)
我想我知道了......谢谢阿T与南瓜.......thanx.....
大家都懂了，我还是有疑问，如果按照狗狗讲的，我认为，他说的（2）（3）两种情况都是可以得，但是我认为第3种更好，因为ETS总是在讲平行原则，前面是there is now one microcomputer for every thirty-two pupils，所以我想后面也应时这样得结构在符合平行原则啊，即four times as many as there was one computer for every 128 pupils
讨论讨论，虽然本题选项中没有出现was
的确, 用was确实不错, 平行, 而且易于理解.
但是, 题目用的是were, 我们就不能自己去改答案.
There is now one microcomputer for every thirty-two pupils, four times as many as there were (microcomputers for pupils) four years ago.
There is now one microcomputer for every thirty-two pupils, four times as many as there were (microcomputers for pupils) four years ago.
在不确定用单数和复数的情况下,一般用复数
在不确定用单数和复数的情况下,一般用复数
在不确定用单数和复数的情况下,一般用复数
能告诉我这条原则从哪来的?
比如那本语法书?或那个人说的?
薰衣紫草,真是NN
There is now one microcomputer for every thirty-two pupils, four times as many as there were (microcomputers for pupils) four years ago.
那比较的仍然是ratio, 那是不是应当用as high as而不用as many as呢？
另外，如果as many as 在这里确实是表示具体数量的比较，那前面是ratio(one microcomputer for every thirty-two pupils), 后面变成了具体数量，比较对象能有可比性么？
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