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作者: juan    时间: 2004-7-24 14:24
标题: 几题请教

1. More than fifty years after the Second World War,a number of African American soldiers were awarded---some of them posthumously---with the Congressional Medal of Honor, which was the nation's highest military award, and which was long overdue in recognition of their outstanding bravery.



B. with the Congressional Medal of Honor,the nation's highest military award for long-overdue



C. the Congressional Medal of Honor, which was the nation's highest award, long-overdue in



D. the Congressional Medal of Honor, the nation's  highest award, the nation's highest military award for long-overdue



E. the Congressional Medal of Honor, the nation's highest award, in long-overdue



我选E.



2. Responding to the public’s fascination with----and sometimes undue alarm over-possible threats from asteroids, a scale developed by astronomers rates the likelihood that a particular asteroid or comet may collide with Earth.



B. a scale that astronomers have developed rates how likely it is for a particular asteroid or comet to



C. astronomers have developed a scale to rate how likely a particular asteroid or comet will be to



D. astronomers have developed a scale for rating the likelihood that a particular asteroid or comet will



E. astronomers have developed a scale that rates the likelihood of a particular asteroid or comet that may



我选D




3. In 1981 children in the United States spent an average of slightly less than two and a half hours a week doing household chores; by 1997 they have spent nearly six hours a week.



B. chores; by 1997 that figure had grown to nearly six hours a week



C. chores, whereas nearly six hours a week were spent in 1997



D. chores, compared with a figure of nearly six hours a week in 1997



E. chores, that figure growing to nearly six hours a week in 1997



我选E




4. In little more than a decade, Argentina has become the world’s leading exporter of honey, with nearly 90000 tons a year sold to foreign markets, almost half of which going to the United States.



E. selling nearly 90000 tons a year to foreign markets, with almost half going



我选E。但给的答案是A。我觉得A中的which不对。



因为BCD都有明显的错误,我就不打了。请见谅。



5. Sound can travel through water for enormous distances, prevented from dissipating its acoustic energy as a result of boundaries in the ocean created by water layers of different temperature and densities.


B. prevented from having its acoustic energy dissipated by


C. its acoustic energy prevented from dissipating by


D. its acoustic energy prevented from being dissipated as a result of


E. preventing its acoustic energy from dissipating by


我选C



多多指教和讨论。谢谢。


作者: rt316    时间: 2004-7-25 01:47

1 - 赞成;

2 - 赞成;

3 - 我选B;E无论从独立主格、时态还是平行角度,我认为都不好;

4 - 赞成;

5 - 赞成;但是此题的A和C在意思上有差距,所以我认为此题不好。


作者: juan    时间: 2004-7-25 02:13

再请教 stoneren GG:

3. B中: in 1981,....用一般过去时,而by 1997.....反而用过去完成时?这是为什么呢?


作者: rt316    时间: 2004-7-25 02:32
by 1997是指从1997过去到1997这一段时间,可以理解为过去的过去,我认为应该用过去完成时。
作者: 佐儿    时间: 2004-7-25 02:33

版主能给偶解释下第四题吗?上次就没搞懂滴说


作者: juan    时间: 2004-7-25 07:21
以下是引用stoneren在2004-7-25 2:32:00的发言:
by 1997是指从1997过去到1997这一段时间,可以理解为过去的过去,我认为应该用过去完成时。

那么E错在什么地方呢?这个独立主格不好在什么地方呢?谢谢stoneren GG.


作者: rt316    时间: 2004-7-25 08:32
以下是引用佐儿在2004-7-25 2:33:00的发言:

版主能给偶解释下第四题吗?上次就没搞懂滴说


4. In little more than a decade, Argentina has become the world’s leading exporter of honey, with nearly 90000 tons a year sold to foreign markets, almost half of which going to the United States.






E. selling nearly 90000 tons a year to foreign markets, with almost half going


A中tons a year sold to的表达不好,a year插在句子中间造成句子结构不紧凑;almost half of which的独立主格结构中which指代模糊;而且,划线部分两个独立主格结构也使得句子的结构过于笨重。

E中selling现分作状语修饰主句,a year放在动宾结构后比较合理;


作者: rt316    时间: 2004-7-25 08:43
以下是引用juan在2004-7-25 7:21:00的发言:


那么E错在什么地方呢?这个独立主格不好在什么地方呢?谢谢stoneren GG.


3. In 1981 children in the United States spent an average of slightly less than two and a half hours a week doing household chores; by 1997 they have spent nearly six hours a week.






B. chores; by 1997 that figure had grown to nearly six hours a week




C. chores, whereas nearly six hours a week were spent in 1997




D. chores, compared with a figure of nearly six hours a week in 1997




E. chores, that figure growing to nearly six hours a week in 1997


个人认为,E的独立主格本身没有什么问题,E的缺点在于:

1-独立主格的作用是状语,而状语不是主句核心成分,所以E改变了A的句子重心;

2-对于句子结构的平行,B的In1981 ...; by 1997 ... 相比更好;

3-由于独立主格结构的制约,E无法精确表达A所暗示的时态;


作者: juan    时间: 2004-7-25 10:18

是不是可以说“by +一个表过去的时间点”,引导的谓语时态一定要用过去完成时?

我以前一直记着的观念就是:只有在 有一般过去时做参照,且发生在那个一般过去时之前,才能用过去完成时。一直都没注意到by....关联的这个时态。

还有:对于这道题,in 1981....spent....而by 1997, 用过去完成时。by 1997表从1997之前到1997止这段时间。。那么从1981到1997之间这段时间也落在这个时间段里。而1981比这个时间段还早,用一般过去时,那么从1981到1997之间这段时间用过去完成时,妥吗?总感觉怪怪的。

谢谢stoneren GG.


作者: rt316    时间: 2004-7-25 13:00
其实过去完成时和一般过去时的用法的确有你所说的这种困惑,关键在于,强调的是动作的先后顺序还是动作的有无,前者造成了过去的过去-过去完成时,后者造成了过去(或许有另一个早一些的过去)-一般现在时。by强调的是一段时间,in强调的是一点时间。
作者: 佐儿    时间: 2004-7-26 00:22

对于状语,补语或者独立主格这样的名词突然感到很陌生了.....可以从词本身体会意思吧....但老实说,这么多年下来没用中文上语法课之后,真的有种似乎相识,又不相认的感觉......

很感谢版主的回复,不仅提醒偶, 还很悉心的把题目也复制了下来.....让偶回想起了当年的英语老师......也发现自己写文章时的一个毛病,

难怪偶当初看不出A的毛病,发现自己也常喜欢写那种结构不紧凑,又累赘的英文句子....不知道有什么方法可以改进吗?


作者: mariezhu    时间: 2004-7-26 08:25

juanMM

No.2 answer should be B: how a comet will be likely to...

N0.3 Choice E changes without reason the focus of the original sentence, the second element is not a surplus added to the first one. However, I do not agree on choice B, because of "had grown", for there is no reason to consider what happened in 1997 even earlier than what happened in the 1980's. I will vote for A, because there will be children anywhere in united states in any time.


作者: juan    时间: 2004-7-26 09:56

谢谢marie MM.


再请教:


2. Responding to the public’s fascination with----and sometimes undue alarm over-possible threats from asteroids, a scale developed by astronomers rates the likelihood that a particular asteroid or comet may collide with Earth.




B. a scale that astronomers have developed rates how likely it is for a particular asteroid or comet to




C. astronomers have developed a scale to rate how likely a particular asteroid or comet will be to ----develop a scale to rate ...好象rate的逻辑主语是astronomers,逻辑上不对。




D. astronomers have developed a scale for rating the likelihood that a particular asteroid or comet will ----develop a scale for rating ....用for doing sth解释说明a scale的目的,也没有逻辑主语的问题。




E. astronomers have developed a scale that rates the likelihood of a particular asteroid or comet that may




我还是觉得要选D,而不是C。









3. In 1981 children in the United States spent an average of slightly less than two and a half hours a week doing household chores; by 1997 they have spent nearly six hours a week.  选A的话they指代前面的children,感觉说的是同一群children,我觉得逻辑上不对呀。





B. chores; by 1997 that figure had grown to nearly six hours a week




C. chores, whereas nearly six hours a week were spent in 1997




D. chores, compared with a figure of nearly six hours a week in 1997




E. chores, that figure growing to nearly six hours a week in 1997


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作者: LES    时间: 2004-7-26 10:07
以下是引用juan在2004-7-24 14:24:00的发言:










3. In 1981 children in the United States spent an average of slightly less than two and a half hours a week doing household chores; by 1997 they have spent nearly six hours a week.





B. chores; by 1997 that figure had grown to nearly six hours a week




C. chores, whereas nearly six hours a week were spent in 1997




D. chores, compared with a figure of nearly six hours a week in 1997




E. chores, that figure growing to nearly six hours a week in 1997




我选E。


偶选E。

A中的they 指代有歧义,是指前面的1981年的children 还是在1997年时的children?请参考下面大全中的一题,注意两者是有区别的,下面例题中的they是有限定说明的。


还有by 1997与前面的In 1981不对称。


1. In Japan elderly people are treated with far greater respect than most Western countries.


(A) most Western countries
(B) most Western countries do
(C) most Western countries are
(D) they do in most Western countries(E)
(E) they are in most Western countries


B.错在时态上。明显的先后时间顺序与时态搭配错误。


E. 独立主格结构,平行对称。


这题以前讨论过的,偶去找找。


作者: LES    时间: 2004-7-26 10:12

哎呀,没有找到。

juan mm,可不可以表明一下题目的来源呢?谢谢!


作者: rt316    时间: 2004-7-26 10:24
以下是引用LES在2004-7-26 10:07:00的发言:

以下是引用juan在2004-7-24 14:24:00的发言:










3. In 1981 children in the United States spent an average of slightly less than two and a half hours a week doing household chores; by 1997 they have spent nearly six hours a week.





B. chores; by 1997 that figure had grown to nearly six hours a week







E. chores, that figure growing to nearly six hours a week in 1997




我选E。


偶选E。

A中的they 指代有歧义,是指前面的1981年的children 还是在1997年时的children?请参考下面大全中的一题,注意两者是有区别的,下面例题中的they是有限定说明的。


还有by 1997与前面的In 1981不对称。不赞成,都是表时间做状语,为何不对称?



B.错在时态上。明显的先后时间顺序与时态搭配错误。这个问题偶也有点困惑,但是考虑到分号断句,两个句子分别表达不同的意思,时态之间应该没有太大的联系。


E. 独立主格结构,平行对称。但是独立主格一般做状语,这个状语在这里又如何理解呢?


这题以前讨论过的,偶去找找。




作者: juan    时间: 2004-7-26 10:33
以下是引用LES在2004-7-26 10:12:00的发言:

哎呀,没有找到。


juan mm,可不可以表明一下题目的来源呢?谢谢!



是从朋友那看来的JJ。
作者: LES    时间: 2004-7-26 10:55

还有by 1997与前面的In 1981不对称。不赞成,都是表时间做状语,为何不对称?
- by 1997与In 1981比跟In 1997与In 1981哪个更平行对称?

B.错在时态上。明显的先后时间顺序与时态搭配错误。这个问题偶也有点困惑,但是考虑到分号断句,两个句子分别表达不同的意思,时态之间应该没有太大的联系。

-虽然这里是用“;”分隔了两个独立的句子,但是他们之间的逻辑关系还是存在的。

E. 独立主格结构,平行对称。但是独立主格一般做状语,这个状语在这里又如何理解呢?

We normally explain absolute phrases by saying that they modify entire sentences, rather than one word. This is an important concept, since many similar phrases that we work with modify other words. -Cited from Mariezhu's post of Absolute Phrases.


作者: rt316    时间: 2004-7-26 11:11
A是两个独立的句子,用以表达两个不同的意思;E是一个独立的句子+独立主格,而这个独立主格是修饰整个主句的,从意思上它怎么修饰呢?这里的修饰实再是说不通啊。
作者: leeon    时间: 2004-7-26 11:18

The answer should be B;

For example:

By 1984,that number had grown to almost 20 million.

Pay attention to the word " grow".


作者: LES    时间: 2004-7-26 11:57
以下是引用stoneren在2004-7-26 11:11:00的发言:
A是两个独立的句子,用以表达两个不同的意思;E是一个独立的句子+独立主格,而这个独立主格是修饰整个主句的,从意思上它怎么修饰呢?这里的修饰实再是说不通啊。

表示比较呀。

以上都是偶的个人观点,大家继续讨论。

以前讨论过这题,若谁有连接,烦请贴上来供大家参考。谢谢!

(忘了当时是否参与讨论,投了哪个选项,反正现在偶投E)


作者: leeon    时间: 2004-7-26 12:45
这里分析一下E为什么是错的,姑且认为E中的主语+分词可以和前面的句子对称,但是注意这个分词结构growing to nearly six hours a week in 1997;现在分词强调的是动作的反复,我们这里能说反复增长到每周6小时吗?所以E错误。还有关于grow这个词,OG里出现很多次,大家也可以多参看词典里面的例子。
作者: LES    时间: 2004-7-26 13:43
以下是引用leeon在2004-7-26 12:45:00的发言:
这里分析一下E为什么是错的,姑且认为E中的主语+分词可以和前面的句子对称,但是注意这个分词结构growing to nearly six hours a week in 1997;现在分词强调的是动作的反复,我们这里能说反复增长到每周6小时吗?所以E错误。还有关于grow这个词,OG里出现很多次,大家也可以多参看词典里面的例子。

偶觉得这条规则只适用于现在分词做定语修饰名词;而这里是一种非谓语形式,只须考虑与前面的名词是主动或被动的逻辑关系。


作者: juan    时间: 2004-7-26 14:00

我觉得E中的独立主格是可以的。我原来也选E。

听了stonren GG的解释后觉得有理。A中的过去完成时更准确地表达出by 1997的动作时态。也扩展了我原来对过去完成时的认识。过去完成时不仅可以表示过去的过去,还表示在过去发生,过去结束的动作。A就是表示了过去发生到过去为止的动作----从过去到1997年止。


作者: leeon    时间: 2004-7-26 14:22

grow这个词本身就表示一种动作的持续性,类似的动词有continue,become等,而在表示grow to ...这个意思是本身就代表着这个动作从过去某个时间开始到某个时间之间这个动作的过程。所以时态上只能是完成时态。

举几个例子:

Its readership has grown to over 15,000 subscribers...

OG2:

Since 1981, when the farm depression began, the number of acres overseen by professional farm-management companies have grown from 48 million to nearly 59 million, an area that is about Colorado’s size.

(C) has grown from 48 million to nearly 59 million, an area about the size of Colorado


作者: LES    时间: 2004-7-26 14:29
以下是引用leeon在2004-7-26 14:22:00的发言:

grow这个词本身就表示一种动作的持续性,类似的动词有continue,become等,而在表示grow to ...这个意思是本身就代表着这个动作从过去某个时间开始到某个时间之间这个动作的过程。所以时态上只能是完成时态。


这点完全不同意的说!大全里的例子有:


1.        As business grows more complex, students majoring in specialized areas like those of finance and marketing have been becoming increasingly successful in the job market.


(A) majoring in specialized areas like those of finance and marketing have been becoming increasingly


(B) who major in such specialized areas as finance and marketing are becoming more and more


(C) who majored in specialized areas such as those of finance and marketing are being increasingly


(D) who major in specialized areas like those of finance and marketing have been becoming more and moreB


(E) having majored in such specialized areas as finance and marketing are being increasingly



作者: leeon    时间: 2004-7-26 14:39

这点完全不同意的说!大全里的例子有:


1.        As business grows more complex, students majoring in specialized areas like those of finance and marketing have been becoming increasingly successful in the job market.

(A) majoring in specialized areas like those of finance and marketing have been becoming increasingly

(B) who major in such specialized areas as finance and marketing are becoming more and more

(C) who majored in specialized areas such as those of finance and marketing are being increasingly

(D) who major in specialized areas like those of finance and marketing have been becoming more and moreB

(E) having majored in such specialized areas as finance and marketing are being increasingly

你举的这个例子恰恰说明了grow这个动作的持续性。grow和grow... to不同,to后面连接的是一个具体的多少,也就代表着一个具体的时间点。As business grows more complex,more complex本身就是泛泛而指,而这里的grows恰恰表达了这个动作的过程。这样的例子还有很多,我想大家还是自己到字典里去看例句吧!


作者: tianwan    时间: 2004-7-26 16:57

3. In 1981 children in the United States spent an average of slightly less than two and a half hours a week doing household chores; by 1997 they have spent nearly six hours a week.


B. chores; by 1997 that figure had grown to nearly six hours a week

C. chores, whereas nearly six hours a week were spent in 1997

D. chores, compared with a figure of nearly six hours a week in 1997

E. chores, that figure growing to nearly six hours a week in 1997

讨论很精彩。

我会选B,和stoneren一样。从语法上讲,B和E都可以。但是从语义上分析,B是并列,而E是从属。我觉得并列更加符合逻辑。

请指正。


作者: LES    时间: 2004-7-26 17:19

tianwan大N也选B呀。

可是还是想不通!

以后再想了。


作者: mariezhu    时间: 2004-7-27 06:13
以下是引用juan在2004-7-26 9:56:00的发言:

谢谢marie MM.


再请教:


2. Responding to the public’s fascination with----and sometimes undue alarm over-possible threats from asteroids, a scale developed by astronomers rates the likelihood that a particular asteroid or comet may collide with Earth.




B. a scale that astronomers have developed rates how likely it is for a particular asteroid or comet to






C. astronomers have developed a scale to rate how likely a particular asteroid or comet will be to ----develop a scale to rate ...好象rate的逻辑主语是astronomers,逻辑上不对。偶认为这个rate本来就是astronomer研制出来用于rate。。的,所以逻辑主语是astronomer完全没有问题。另外偶还是认为在to和for的问题上,ets似乎倾向于选择to,因为后面跟的是动词rate





D. astronomers have developed a scale for rating the likelihood that a particular asteroid or comet will ----develop a scale for rating ....用for doing sth解释说明a scale的目的,也没有逻辑主语的问题。






E. astronomers have developed a scale that rates the likelihood of a particular asteroid or comet that may






我还是觉得要选D,而不是C。









3. In 1981 children in the United States spent an average of slightly less than two and a half hours a week doing household chores; by 1997 they have spent nearly six hours a week.  选A的话they指代前面的children,感觉说的是同一群children,我觉得逻辑上不对呀。they指代children完全没有问题,原因是不管何时任何地方都会有children,而且时间状语in 1981和by 1997完全对应,注意前面说得只是children in unites states, in 1981只是个时间状语govern整个句子,而不是children的定语。类似的题目其实大家遇见过,就是关于elderly  pepple在日本更受尊敬那一道,大家可以翻出来看一看,这题的e我认为是改变了句子重心,本来是两个平行的elements没有理由改成e的情况 此外还有sharks kill people的一题,其实仔细看起来也是类似的问题:两个不同的时间段但是却是同一个主语,然而却不会产生歧义,原因是主语并不是特指某个时间段的东东,而是存在于各个时间段的东东。


欢迎大家讨论这一题(偶觉得b最大的问题是不知道是谁spent。。。这种形式似乎ets并不喜欢





B. chores; by 1997 that figure had grown to nearly six hours a week






C. chores, whereas nearly six hours a week were spent in 1997






D. chores, compared with a figure of nearly six hours a week in 1997






E. chores, that figure growing to nearly six hours a week in 1997




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作者: juan    时间: 2004-7-27 12:33
以下是引用mariezhu在2004-7-27 6:13:00的发言:










2. to do sth.表目的,for doing sth,表用途。我觉得这里的逻辑意思是astronomers开发 a scale是为了将the scale用于doing sth.只有a scale才能rate sth,astronomers是不能rate sth. 的。


就象以前我问过stoneren GG的一题:something provides the evidence to support sth./something provides the evidence for supporting sth.一样,当时答案应该是选后者for doing sth.


3.选A的话,in 1997,....后面用现在完成时我觉得不妥。而且代词 they的指代我还是觉得不好。elder people in Japan那道题,记得以前讨论过,说那题正确选项的代词指代确实不好,只是没办法,矮子里面选高个,比较地选出了那个答案。



多多讨论。


作者: leeon    时间: 2004-7-27 15:08

3. In 1981 children in the United States spent an average of slightly less than two and a half hours a week doing household chores; by 1997 they have spent nearly six hours a week.  选A的话they指代前面的children,感觉说的是同一群children,我觉得逻辑上不对呀。they指代children完全没有问题,原因是不管何时任何地方都会有children,而且时间状语in 1981和by 1997完全对应,注意前面说得只是children in unites states, in 1981只是个时间状语govern整个句子,而不是children的定语。类似的题目其实大家遇见过,就是关于elderly  pepple在日本更受尊敬那一道,大家可以翻出来看一看,这题的e我认为是改变了句子重心,本来是两个平行的elements没有理由改成e的情况 此外还有sharks kill people的一题,其实仔细看起来也是类似的问题:两个不同的时间段但是却是同一个主语,然而却不会产生歧义,原因是主语并不是特指某个时间段的东东,而是存在于各个时间段的东东。

欢迎大家讨论这一题(偶觉得b最大的问题是不知道是谁spent。。。这种形式似乎ets并不喜欢

B. chores; by 1997 that figure had grown to nearly six hours a week



C. chores, whereas nearly six hours a week were spent in 1997



D. chores, compared with a figure of nearly six hours a week in 1997



E. chores, that figure growing to nearly six hours a week in 1997

我们再分析这两句话所表达的含义,重点是要表达所花费时间这个数字的变化,而不是谁花费多少时间,B中的表达是一种很客观的表达,而且用新名词that figure概括了前面句子部分的含义,这往往是ETS正确答案的标志,加上时间状语和grow...to...的表达,用过去完成时确切的表达了原文的含义。个人认为这题不仅正确答案是B,而且B的表达方式是最好的。
作者: mariezhu    时间: 2004-7-30 03:18

但是这个six hours were spent in 1997并没有明确动作的施动者,到底是美国孩子们,还是美国人?

我觉得这种施动者不明晰的句子不太可能成为正确答案


作者: leeon    时间: 2004-7-30 11:46

但是这个six hours were spent in 1997并没有明确动作的施动者,到底是美国孩子们,还是美国人?

我觉得这种施动者不明晰的句子不太可能成为正确答案

你看到C上去了。B中用了that figure。


作者: 佐儿    时间: 2004-7-31 00:12

天~~~NN全出动了.....一个比一个厉害


作者: 佐儿    时间: 2004-7-31 00:22

anyway,第三题肯定B了,没什么能多解释了......NN们让我想起以前自己的英文家教啊~~~ 怀念ING


作者: rhod    时间: 2004-7-31 22:34

3. In 1981 children in the United States spent an average of slightly less than two and a half hours a week doing household chores; by 1997 they have spent nearly six hours a week.


B. chores; by 1997 that figure had grown to nearly six hours a week

C. chores, whereas nearly six hours a week were spent in 1997

D. chores, compared with a figure of nearly six hours a week in 1997

E. chores, that figure growing to nearly six hours a week in 1997

我选E

这题我同意juan mm选E. A里面的现在完成时态不对,从句子意思是仅仅指97年的数据,没有延续至今的含义。B的过去完成时态不对,81年用过去时,97年用过去完成时,过去完成时的含义是指过去的过去,那么97年比81年还要过去。C的问题marie mm都说了。走投无路下,我选E. E虽然也有些问题,但是不致命.






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