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作者: windhill    时间: 2004-7-21 12:01
标题: 再问og109,谢谢了

Legislation in the Canadian province of Ontario requires of both public and private employers that pay be the same for jobs historically held by women as for jobs requiring comparable skill that are usually held by men.


请问怎么断句?


(Legislation in the Canadian province of Ontario )requires (of both public and private employers) that (should) pay be the same for jobs historically held by women as for jobs requiring comparable skill that are usually held by men.



那(should) pay be the same  怎么理解?


或者是:


(Legislation in the Canadian province of Ontario) requires (of both public and private employers that pay)(should) be the same for jobs historically held by women as for jobs requiring comparable skill that are usually held bymen


that pay 是 employers的后置定语?


这句话汉语怎么翻译呢?


谢谢了


作者: vincent0330    时间: 2004-7-21 12:21
应该是pay (should) be the same
作者: vincent0330    时间: 2004-7-21 12:22

require of Sb Sth

而这里的Sth用that从句替换了.....


作者: windhill    时间: 2004-7-21 12:39

that pay 是 employers的后置定语?


这句话汉语怎么翻译呢?


作者: vincent0330    时间: 2004-7-21 12:42

那不是后置定语......require of Sb that: 要求某人怎样怎样..........

pay=薪资


作者: rhod    时间: 2004-7-21 12:56

句子的结构是: require of sb that ... . 不是定语从句。

我的中文翻译比较烂,看看有没有其他NN来翻译一下。不过建议你仔细看看句子的结构,来理解句子的英文意思,而不是通过中文翻译。中文的语言习惯和英语是不同的,所以一个通顺的中文翻译很可能不能反映出原句的英文结构。

这里的结构就是require of sb that ..., that 从句里有一个the same ... as ...结构。


作者: windhill    时间: 2004-7-21 12:57
谢谢了
作者: irenelj78    时间: 2004-7-24 06:15

(Legislation in the Canadian province of Ontario)(主语) requires of (both public and private employers) that( payshould be the same for jobs< historically held by women >(做job的定语)as for jobs <requiring comparable skill>(动名词短语做jobs的定语)< that are usually held by men>(定语从句修饰jobs)

should 是虚拟语气的标志,像require ,suggest(表建议)这样的词引导that从句的时候,从句中动词要用原型,should放在动词前面,但在美语中要省略掉.所以should 放在be前面是对的。

句子的主干也就是A require of B  that sth be the same for C as for D的结构,其他的成分都是修饰成分,windhill你再仔细体会一下,理解了结构句子的意思就不难理解了


作者: 绿水长流    时间: 2004-8-27 13:00

请教!后面that are usually held by men中的that are 去掉可以吗,我觉得这样和historically held by women平行

如果说用定语从句修饰jobs,表示特指,前面为什么用held by woman呢?

麻烦大家,谢谢!


作者: 绿水长流    时间: 2004-9-12 12:38
继续请教,谢谢xiexie
作者: jerryyang    时间: 2004-10-20 22:46

up

OG的解释and in choices B, D, and E, the wording illogically describes the comparable skills rather than the jobs as being "usually held by men.",

但是,我还是不明白,我理解OG的解释:是that从句表限定,表示比较的是通常被男人所拥有的那部分技术,而BDE选项未能表达这层意思,那么就是说用分词修饰表示非限定,是这样吗?

请NN指教?


作者: r1418    时间: 2004-10-25 14:02

我觉得这句话的意思是

加拿大安大略省的立法机关要求public and private的雇主对那些一直由妇女做的工作和由男人做的,要求相似技术的工作发相同的工资

that are usually held by men是修饰jobs的

如果把that are省略,那usually held by men就修饰skill了


作者: billion    时间: 2005-2-22 19:02

如果把that are省略,那usually held by men就修饰skill了

哪位NN能把这句话解释得详细些?为什么加了that就没有歧义了?谢谢!


作者: anyname    时间: 2005-2-22 22:46
以下是引用billion在2005-2-22 19:02:00的发言:


哪位NN能把这句话解释得详细些?为什么加了that就没有歧义了?谢谢!




比较一下:


that pay be the same for jobs historically held by women as for jobs requiring comparable skill usually held by men. (usually held by men最象skill的修饰语)


that pay be the same for jobs historically held by women as for jobs requiring comparable skill that are usually held by men.  (据主谓一致原则,加that are后强制性地使之修饰更遥远的jobs。和og85 的that is bringing同理)


作者: billion    时间: 2005-2-22 23:25
太感谢anyname了!!
作者: advantage    时间: 2005-6-24 16:30

也就是说原本that是要修饰离它最近的n.,但A选项种that后的are消除了这一条件,而使that修饰能与are对应的jobs?


那要是这题后面是skills不就晕菜了?


作者: foreinter    时间: 2005-6-29 09:09
以下是引用advantage在2005-6-24 16:30:00的发言:

也就是说原本that是要修饰离它最近的n.,但A选项种that后的are消除了这一条件,而使that修饰能与are对应的jobs?


那要是这题后面是skills不就晕菜了?



ETS不会这么出的,^_^
作者: julia_ggw    时间: 2005-10-19 04:30
以下是引用vincent0330在2004-7-21 12:42:00的发言:

那不是后置定语......require of Sb that: 要求某人怎样怎样..........


pay=薪资



真是的,不过pay作名词的时候真是少见,所以老觉得that pay be the same怪怪的。如果这里换成salary大概就不那么容易出错了。sign...


作者: shappiesus    时间: 2006-8-30 23:44

require of Sb

哪个字典上有这样的固定搭配? 


作者: vivian_huang    时间: 2007-8-19 09:36

看了advantage才恍然大悟!!!


作者: ocean368    时间: 2007-11-9 23:20
thx
作者: tigercaiqun    时间: 2008-2-22 10:31
以下是引用anyname在2005-2-22 22:46:00的发言:

比较一下:

that pay be the same for jobs historically held by women as for jobs requiring comparable skill
            usually held by men. (usually held by men最象skill的修饰语)

that pay be the same for jobs historically held by women as for jobs requiring comparable skill
            that are usually held by men.  (据主谓一致原则,加that are后强制性地使之修饰更遥远的jobs。和og85 的that is bringing同理)






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