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作者: justabeginning    时间: 2011-10-31 13:42
标题: 对OG12-121答案的疑问
121. Codex Berinensis, a Florentine copy of an ancient Roman medical treatise, is undated but contains clues to when
it was produced. Its first 80 pages are by a single copyist, but the remaining 20 pages are by three different
copyists, which indicates some significant disruption. Since a letter in handwriting identified as that of the fourth
copyist mentionsa plague that killed many people in Florence in 1148, Codex Berinensis was probably produced
in that year.
Which of the following, if true, most strongly supports the hypothesis that Codex Berinensis was produced
in 1148?
(A) Other than Codex Berinensis, there are no known samples of the handwriting of the first three copyists.
(B) According to the account by the fourth copyist, the plague went on for 10 months.
(C) A scribe would be able to copy a page of text the size and style of Codex Berinensis in a day.
(D) There was only one outbreak of plague in Florence in the 1100s.
(E) The number of pages of Codex Berinensis produced by a single scribe becomes smaller with each
successive change of copyist.

答案用排除法可以得到,但是我觉得OG的解释和原文都有问题。
因为就意思来说(highlight的那部分)第四个作者原本就提到了那个瘟疫发生的具体时间,我觉得就这样的语法结构来说是有歧义的
作者: justabeginning    时间: 2011-10-31 14:01
刚才四处找了一下,发现各方面的意见比较一致,就是文中暗示作者们都死在那场瘟疫里了......

有些无语的感觉
作者: babybearmm    时间: 2012-4-4 07:13
首先第一句话说了"undated"
Codex Berinensis, a Florentine copy of an ancient Roman medical treatise, is undated but contains clues to when
it was produced.
既然是undated,也就是说书里并没有mention "1148"。事实上,结合咱的历史纪年常识,当时的人们很可能也不知道咱现在管那一年叫做1148年。

Indeed, A letter by the forth copyist only "mentions a plague".
What is the "plague"?
Here comes an essential modifier. "a plague that bla bla in 1948" - this is the knowledge we have right now. To safely arrive at this point (i.e. to clearly identify the event mentioned), we have to make sure that there is only ONE outbreak of plague in that temporal-spatial frame. This is what Choice D says.

121. Codex Berinensis, a Florentine copy of an ancient Roman medical treatise, is undated but contains clues to when
it was produced. Its first 80 pages are by a single copyist, but the remaining 20 pages are by three different
copyists, which indicates some significant disruption. Since a letter in handwriting identified as that of the fourth
copyist mentionsa plague that killed many people in Florence in 1148, Codex Berinensis was probably produced
in that year.
Which of the following, if true, most strongly supports the hypothesis that Codex Berinensis was produced
in 1148?
(A) Other than Codex Berinensis, there are no known samples of the handwriting of the first three copyists.
(B) According to the account by the fourth copyist, the plague went on for 10 months.
(C) A scribe would be able to copy a page of text the size and style of Codex Berinensis in a day.
(D) There was only one outbreak of plague in Florence in the 1100s.
(E) The number of pages of Codex Berinensis produced by a single scribe becomes smaller with each
successive change of copyist.

答案用排除法可以得到,但是我觉得OG的解释和原文都有问题。
因为就意思来说(highlight的那部分)第四个作者原本就提到了那个瘟疫发生的具体时间,我觉得就这样的语法结构来说是有歧义的
-- by 会员 justabeginning (2011/10/31 13:42:26)




作者: babybearmm    时间: 2012-4-4 07:18
我也发现了,比如这里:
http://www.beatthegmat.com/how-to-approach-this-strengthen-question-codex-berinensis-t87376.html

但我个人觉得,“前三个作者们都死在那场瘟疫里了”这个推断是out of scope。也许是真的,或者可以通过一定的想象力来得到,但不能说safely infer. 因为原文并没有提到前3个作者的死因或者停止著书的原因。

但就这道题的结论而言,我们只关心该著作的成书年代,不关心前3个作者怎么死的.....所以D的信息能加强结论,因为D能把这个outbreak of plague锁定在那一年。

刚才四处找了一下,发现各方面的意见比较一致,就是文中暗示作者们都死在那场瘟疫里了......

有些无语的感觉
-- by 会员 justabeginning (2011/10/31 14:01:02)


作者: babybearmm    时间: 2012-4-4 07:57
刚看了OG的解释:
Consider the basis of
the hypothesis: the succession of copyists indicating the work was significantly disrupted,
and the fourth copyist’s letter indicating the plague of 1148 caused serious loss of life.

那我觉得关于前3个作者怎么死的这样一个推断,还是可以站住脚的。上一个贴子的言论我收回。

Anyway,就这题来说,我觉得,就好比SC里面,要进行数值比较,就不能写孤零零的"a ratio" "a number",要定义(define)清楚到底是个什么ratio/number. 那么这道题目,说"plague",能define/identify这个事件(哪一年发生的plague)么?当且仅当彼时彼处有且仅有1个outbreak of plague的时候,我们能define/identify这个事件。所以选D.

我也发现了,比如这里:
http://www.beatthegmat.com/how-to-approach-this-strengthen-question-codex-berinensis-t87376.html

但我个人觉得,“前三个作者们都死在那场瘟疫里了”这个推断是out of scope。也许是真的,或者可以通过一定的想象力来得到,但不能说safely infer. 因为原文并没有提到前3个作者的死因或者停止著书的原因。

但就这道题的结论而言,我们只关心该著作的成书年代,不关心前3个作者怎么死的.....所以D的信息能加强结论,因为D能把这个outbreak of plague锁定在那一年。

刚才四处找了一下,发现各方面的意见比较一致,就是文中暗示作者们都死在那场瘟疫里了......

有些无语的感觉
-- by 会员 justabeginning (2011/10/31 14:01:02)



-- by 会员 babybearmm (2012/4/4 7:18:33)



作者: ainiAnnie    时间: 2012-4-12 19:42
(A) Other than Codex Berinensis, there are no
known samples of the handwriting of the first
three copyists.
How does it matter if CB was produced in 1148, Rejected

(B) According to the account by the fourth copyist,
the plague went on for 10 months.
If the plague went on for 10 days, it does not affect if CB was produced in 1948

(C) A scribe would be able to copy a page of text
the size and style of Codex Berinensis in a day.
In a day it does not provide support for CB being produced in 1148
(D) There was only one outbreak of plague in
Florence in the 1100s.
This is correct I arrived by elimination. This is inline with the plague occurance and significant interruption due to it.
(E) The number of pages of Codex Berinensis
produced by a single scribe becomes smaller
smaller it does not affect our proposal that the CB was produced in 1148
with each successive change of copyist
以上是我在 gc 里找到的,看了baby姐姐的解释,在结合国外论坛的一些解释,我发现我们做这道题之所以觉得哪哪都有问题的原因是我们想的有点的太多了。。。在考场上以快速找到答案为目标~
外国同学的思维貌似直接了当很多,就冲着 support 结论去,很快找到答案了。。。。
作者: tthere    时间: 2012-4-13 16:42
刚看了OG的解释:
Consider the basis of
the hypothesis: the succession of copyists indicating the work was significantly disrupted,
and the fourth copyist’s letter indicating the plague of 1148 caused serious loss of life.

那我觉得关于前3个作者怎么死的这样一个推断,还是可以站住脚的。上一个贴子的言论我收回。

Anyway,就这题来说,我觉得,就好比SC里面,要进行数值比较,就不能写孤零零的"a ratio" "a number",要定义(define)清楚到底是个什么ratio/number. 那么这道题目,说"plague",能define/identify这个事件(哪一年发生的plague)么?当且仅当彼时彼处有且仅有1个outbreak of plague的时候,我们能define/identify这个事件。所以选D.

我也发现了,比如这里:
http://www.beatthegmat.com/how-to-approach-this-strengthen-question-codex-berinensis-t87376.html

但我个人觉得,“前三个作者们都死在那场瘟疫里了”这个推断是out of scope。也许是真的,或者可以通过一定的想象力来得到,但不能说safely infer. 因为原文并没有提到前3个作者的死因或者停止著书的原因。

但就这道题的结论而言,我们只关心该著作的成书年代,不关心前3个作者怎么死的.....所以D的信息能加强结论,因为D能把这个outbreak of plague锁定在那一年。

刚才四处找了一下,发现各方面的意见比较一致,就是文中暗示作者们都死在那场瘟疫里了......

有些无语的感觉
-- by 会员 justabeginning (2011/10/31 14:01:02)




-- by 会员 babybearmm (2012/4/4 7:18:33)



-- by 会员 babybearmm (2012/4/4 7:57:54)



我还是不太明白,即使我们确定了那场plague就是发生在1148年的,又为什么能推断出就是在那一年写的呢?为什么不可能是之后写的,只不过提到了当年的事情?
作者: babybearmm    时间: 2012-4-13 16:59
刚看了OG的解释:
Consider the basis of
the hypothesis: the succession of copyists indicating the work was significantly disrupted,
and the fourth copyist’s letter indicating the plague of 1148 caused serious loss of life.

那我觉得关于前3个作者怎么死的这样一个推断,还是可以站住脚的。上一个贴子的言论我收回。

Anyway,就这题来说,我觉得,就好比SC里面,要进行数值比较,就不能写孤零零的"a ratio" "a number",要定义(define)清楚到底是个什么ratio/number. 那么这道题目,说"plague",能define/identify这个事件(哪一年发生的plague)么?当且仅当彼时彼处有且仅有1个outbreak of plague的时候,我们能define/identify这个事件。所以选D.

我也发现了,比如这里:
http://www.beatthegmat.com/how-to-approach-this-strengthen-question-codex-berinensis-t87376.html

但我个人觉得,“前三个作者们都死在那场瘟疫里了”这个推断是out of scope。也许是真的,或者可以通过一定的想象力来得到,但不能说safely infer. 因为原文并没有提到前3个作者的死因或者停止著书的原因。

但就这道题的结论而言,我们只关心该著作的成书年代,不关心前3个作者怎么死的.....所以D的信息能加强结论,因为D能把这个outbreak of plague锁定在那一年。

刚才四处找了一下,发现各方面的意见比较一致,就是文中暗示作者们都死在那场瘟疫里了......

有些无语的感觉
-- by 会员 justabeginning (2011/10/31 14:01:02)






-- by 会员 babybearmm (2012/4/4 7:18:33)





-- by 会员 babybearmm (2012/4/4 7:57:54)





我还是不太明白,即使我们确定了那场plague就是发生在1148年的,又为什么能推断出就是在那一年写的呢?为什么不可能是之后写的,只不过提到了当年的事情?
-- by 会员 tthere (2012/4/13 16:42:51)




We need ONLY to strengthen the conclusion. No need to prove the conclusion.
Yes, there are many gaps, but as long as the answer choice successfully fills in one gap, it should be deemed correct.
Just my 2c.
作者: ainiAnnie    时间: 2012-4-14 15:51
刚看了OG的解释:
Consider the basis of
the hypothesis: the succession of copyists indicating the work was significantly disrupted,
and the fourth copyist’s letter indicating the plague of 1148 caused serious loss of life.

那我觉得关于前3个作者怎么死的这样一个推断,还是可以站住脚的。上一个贴子的言论我收回。

Anyway,就这题来说,我觉得,就好比SC里面,要进行数值比较,就不能写孤零零的"a ratio" "a number",要定义(define)清楚到底是个什么ratio/number. 那么这道题目,说"plague",能define/identify这个事件(哪一年发生的plague)么?当且仅当彼时彼处有且仅有1个outbreak of plague的时候,我们能define/identify这个事件。所以选D.

我也发现了,比如这里:
http://www.beatthegmat.com/how-to-approach-this-strengthen-question-codex-berinensis-t87376.html

但我个人觉得,“前三个作者们都死在那场瘟疫里了”这个推断是out of scope。也许是真的,或者可以通过一定的想象力来得到,但不能说safely infer. 因为原文并没有提到前3个作者的死因或者停止著书的原因。

但就这道题的结论而言,我们只关心该著作的成书年代,不关心前3个作者怎么死的.....所以D的信息能加强结论,因为D能把这个outbreak of plague锁定在那一年。

刚才四处找了一下,发现各方面的意见比较一致,就是文中暗示作者们都死在那场瘟疫里了......

有些无语的感觉
-- by 会员 justabeginning (2011/10/31 14:01:02)






-- by 会员 babybearmm (2012/4/4 7:18:33)





-- by 会员 babybearmm (2012/4/4 7:57:54)





我还是不太明白,即使我们确定了那场plague就是发生在1148年的,又为什么能推断出就是在那一年写的呢?为什么不可能是之后写的,只不过提到了当年的事情?
-- by 会员 tthere (2012/4/13 16:42:51)




We need ONLY to strengthen the conclusion. No need to prove the conclusion.
Yes, there are many gaps, but as long as the answer choice successfully fill in one gap, it should be deemed correct.
Just my 2c.
-- by 会员 babybearmm (2012/4/13 16:59:07)


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