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作者: omeimei    时间: 2004-7-18 08:22
标题: 再问og 100

OG 100
Wisconsin, Illinois, Florida, and Minnesota have
begun to enforce statewide bans prohibiting landfills to accept leaves, brush, and grass clippings.
(A) prohibiting landfills to accept leaves, brush, and grass clippings
(B) prohibiting that landfills accept leaves, brush, and grass clippings
(C) prohibiting landfills from accepting leaves, brush, and grass clippings
(D) that leaves, brush, and grass clippings cannot be accepted in landfills
(E) that landfills cannot accept leaves, brush, and grass clippings


参看了cd上nn的讨论。。。似乎问题集中在：ban已经是否定，加上cannot二重否定表肯定。


但是我有一个问题，难道prohibit就不是否定吗？


按这个说法，那正确选项c也是二重否定表肯定啊，意思也不对呢。。。

作者: rt316    时间: 2004-7-18 11:02
MM仔细看看，C里除了prohibit以外还有哪个是否定词？
作者: omeimei    时间: 2004-7-20 07:02

没有了啊。。。

c不就是bans prohibit...双否？？

奇怪。。怎么还是不明白地说

作者: rt316    时间: 2004-7-20 07:24

ban + doing表示ban的动作；

ban + that表示ban的内容或对象；

作者: longvacation    时间: 2004-9-24 10:42
以下是引用stoneren在2004-7-20 7:24:00的发言：

ban + doing表示ban的动作；


ban + that表示ban的内容或对象；


还是不明白为什么prohibiting可以跟在ban 后面

作者: jade_lee    时间: 2004-9-24 14:11


参看了cd上nn的讨论。。。似乎问题集中在：ban已经是否定，加上cannot二重否定表肯定。

BAN：MUST NOT DO STH， 范围比CANNOT 大，所以用CANNOT不仅REDUNDANT而且 完全没必要。并不是二重否定。

BA N+DOING。。。， DOING 修饰BAN  

作者: yaoshuming    时间: 2007-2-7 17:19
把这个帖子顶上去，我跟lz有一样的疑惑，大家来讨论一下
作者: Mayanist    时间: 2007-2-8 02:11
OG 100
Wisconsin, Illinois, Florida, and Minnesota have
begun to enforce statewide bans prohibiting landfills to accept leaves, brush, and grass clippings.


(C) prohibiting landfills from accepting leaves, brush, and grass clippings

我认为 prohibiting ... 是具体说明bans的内容/目的, 所以两者都是ban的意思.


作者: yaoshuming    时间: 2007-2-8 15:09

哦，我似乎懂了

ban+that，that里面的内容是要ban的东西，也就是说是错的内容

ban+doing，doing是与ban同性质的，也就是说是对的内容

因此ban prohibiting。。。中prohibiting是与ban等同的

作者: ccmmqq    时间: 2007-2-8 15:57

还是不太明白...

好象以前挺明白的,现在晕了...

作者: amywangwei    时间: 2007-5-5 16:38
以下是引用yaoshuming在2007-2-8 15:09:00的发言：

哦，我似乎懂了

ban+that，that里面的内容是要ban的东西，也就是说是错的内容

ban+doing，doing是与ban同性质的，也就是说是对的内容

因此ban prohibiting。。。中prohibiting是与ban等同的

隔了好多天回头看，还是不明白，ban+that, that引导的是同位语从句啊，从句说明这个ban是什么东东，不是宾语从句呀，为什么是错的内容呢？
作者: amywangwei    时间: 2007-5-7 21:40

up

看了前面所有的帖子还是似懂非懂

作者: cuishang11    时间: 2009-5-5 11:56
ban prohibiting... 这里prohibiting是做后置定语修饰ban的吧 而不是和ban等同的内容
作者: bright1798    时间: 2014-6-5 20:09
RON的解答：

To use the word 'ban' correctly, you have to say that the ban prevents (or prohibits, or proscribes, or criminalizes, or one of the many other words carrying the meaning of 'puts off limits') something. You can't say 'a ban that X does Y'. So that does it for the last two choices.

As an alternative construction - possibly the most common construction, actually - you can say a ban ON (NOUN). This construction could theoretically be used here, but (1) it isn't, and (2) it would be difficult to introduce it into this particular sentence without some seriously awkward phrasing.

A and B are done in by poor idiomatic usage. As far as A, you can't say 'X is prohibited TO (verb)', although you can say the related 'It is prohibited to (verb)'. You have to say that X is prohibited FROM (verb)ing'. And B should look really, really wrong to just about any native writer/speaker of English.

That leaves C.




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