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作者: paopao    时间: 2004-7-17 02:56
标题: og210

210. Scientists have recently discovered what could be the largest and oldest living organism on Earth, a giant fungus that is an interwoven filigree of mushrooms and rootlike tentacles spawned by a single fertilized spore some 10,000 years ago and extending for more than 30 acres in the soil of a Michigan forest.


(A) extending


(B) extends


(C) extended


(D) it extendedA


(E) is extending


Choice A, the best answer, preserves grammatical parallelism while allowing for logical expression of temporal relationships; (平行)A employs the parallel participial phrases spawned... and extending... to modify filigree. Other choices present different grammatical constructions that are not participial modifiers and thus not parallel to spawned: extends in B is a present-tense verb; it extended in D begins a new clause; and is extending in E ungrammatically introduces a new predicate. In C, extended is nonparallel if it is assumed to be a past tense verb form; if it is assumed to be a past participle, it illogically states, as does D, that the filigree extended only in the past. (如果认为是过去式,则与原句不平行,如果认为是过去分词,则认为F只扩张在过去,也就是现在不扩张了,不合逻辑)


又一个平行的例子:逻辑平行最重要



A employs the parallel participial phrases spawned... and extending... to modify filigree



这个不理解 为何两个平行的分词修饰的是filigree


我觉得从句意来说 应该修饰的是a giant fungus 因为只有真菌才能spawned



在这种复杂修饰 跳跃修饰中 不知有没有什么好的原则能判断 究竟修饰的是谁



谢谢


作者: paopao    时间: 2004-7-17 13:18
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作者: paopao    时间: 2004-7-18 06:02

作者: agk99    时间: 2004-7-27 16:07

請看


http://forum.chasedream.com/dispbbs.asp?BoardID=23&ID=49874


說的很詳細


作者: roberta    时间: 2004-8-7 19:41
以下是引用paopao在2004-7-17 2:56:00的发言:

210. Scientists have recently discovered what could be the largest and oldest living organism on Earth, a giant fungus that is an interwoven filigree of mushrooms and rootlike tentacles spawned by a single fertilized spore some 10,000 years ago and extending for more than 30 acres in the soil of a Michigan forest.


(A) extending


(B) extends


(C) extended


(D) it extendedA


(E) is extending


Choice A, the best answer, preserves grammatical parallelism while allowing for logical expression of temporal relationships; (平行)A employs the parallel participial phrases spawned... and extending... to modify filigree. Other choices present different grammatical constructions that are not participial modifiers and thus not parallel to spawned: extends in B is a present-tense verb; it extended in D begins a new clause; and is extending in E ungrammatically introduces a new predicate. In C, extended is nonparallel if it is assumed to be a past tense verb form; if it is assumed to be a past participle, it illogically states, as does D, that the filigree extended only in the past. (如果认为是过去式,则与原句不平行,如果认为是过去分词,则认为F只扩张在过去,也就是现在不扩张了,不合逻辑)



又一个平行的例子:逻辑平行最重要




A employs the parallel participial phrases spawned... and extending... to modify filigree







这个不理解 为何两个平行的分词修饰的是filigree




我觉得从句意来说 应该修饰的是a giant fungus 因为只有真菌才能spawned







在这种复杂修饰 跳跃修饰中 不知有没有什么好的原则能判断 究竟修饰的是谁







谢谢



up! 是啊,为什么不是修饰a giant fungus,是不是如果修饰a giant fungus 要加that呢??看了原来讨论的帖子,并没有谈到这一点,还请大家多多指教,谢谢!


作者: roberta    时间: 2004-8-8 08:32

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作者: roberta    时间: 2004-8-8 23:53

hmm...我想了又想,感觉要是修饰a giant fungus,应该要加that,是吗?即把E选项改成that is extending就可以了,对吗?这样的定语从句虽然前面有that(that is an interwoven filigree of mushrooms ),但后面的that是不可以省略的,是吗??

还请大家指点,多谢!


作者: vincent0330    时间: 2004-8-9 00:37

Scientists have recently discovered what could be the largest and oldest living organism on Earth, a giant fungus that is an interwoven filigree of mushrooms and rootlike tentacles spawned by a single fertilized spore some 10,000 years ago and that is extending for more than 30 acres in the soil of a Michigan forest.

你加了that, 有可能歧义并列两that从句, 造成其形式不并列(第一个that从句表状态, 事实, 第二个表动作ongoing condition)...


作者: roberta    时间: 2004-8-9 00:49
哦。。。原来如此,这下彻底明白了,真棒,谢谢狗狗!!  
作者: paopao    时间: 2004-8-9 01:28

狗狗  为何现分不是修饰大蘑菇啊


你能讲讲吗


作者: roberta    时间: 2004-8-9 02:24

偶个人观点,仅供参考的说

我觉得是这样,大蘑菇已经有that is an interwoven filigree of mushrooms and rootlike tentacles修饰了,spawned不可能再修饰大蘑菇了,而extending也不是修饰大蘑菇的,因为extending与that is an interwoven filigree of ....不是平行的。嗨。。偶也不知道有没有说清楚。。。


作者: vincent0330    时间: 2004-8-9 05:01
以下是引用paopao在2004-8-9 1:28:00的发言:

狗狗  为何现分不是修饰大蘑菇啊


你能讲讲吗


Scientists have recently discovered what could be the largest and oldest living organism on Earth, a giant fungus that is an interwoven filigree of mushrooms and rootlike tentacles spawned by a single fertilized spore some 10,000 years ago and that is extending for more than 30 acres in the soil of a Michigan forest.


你说的"大蘑菇"是a giant fungus吗??


首先我用roberta的例子来说, 两个that从句形式不对等, 在ETS上来说应该叫awkward, and non-parallel structure. 并不是说现分修饰fungus不好...


其次, 从(A)原句来看,


Scientists have recently discovered what could be the largest and oldest living organism on Earth, a giant fungus that is an interwoven filigree of mushrooms and rootlike tentacles spawned by a single fertilized spore some 10,000 years ago and extending for more than 30 acres in the soil of a Michigan forest.


其中的spawned 和 extending 都是修饰 an interwoven filigree of mushrooms and rootlike tentacles, 若是直接跳跃修饰a giant fungus, 个人觉得不妥.....况且that从句里面的修饰语是跳跃修饰that从句的先行词也是不妥...


作者: XiaoY    时间: 2004-8-9 11:26

我的字典告诉我filigree是delicate decorative wire work精致细丝工艺? 有没有其他解释? 怎么放在这里不通?

另外, 抛开结构, 从句意去了解, 可能比较有说服力.

就说 filigree是10,000年前由一个单一的受精孢子产卵的, (现在) 正在扩展到...... 一个M森林30亩的土地上...(好别扭)

或者我们可以理解成, 在and 后面省略了个now...如果有now, 就没有异议了....

我也是从这题才知道, 原来过去分词和现在分词可以平行修饰一对象啊?!


作者: hpp920    时间: 2004-8-16 01:02

这道题顺着语意, 我会很快选出正确答案. 但对og的解释却有些不明白: A employs the parallel participial phrases spawned... and extending... to modify filigree. Other choices present different grammatical constructions that are not participial modifiers and thus not parallel to spawned.

我的问题是: 为什么要找和spawned平行的词, 而不是和a giant fungus that is 中的is平行的词?选项中的

(B) extends (C) extended (E) is extending都可看做和is平行的选项, 尽管时态可能用的不贴切.对于下面的结构, 大家看是对还是错?

a giant fungus that is ...and has extended...是不是由于is和has extended的词性不同, 我们更应用:

a giant fungus that is ...and that has extended...

请大家指教, 谢谢!


作者: fuyun    时间: 2005-10-13 22:48

回楼上:


我觉得不论题意,想使E is extending, B extends, 要和前面的that is 构成平行,至少题目中的and is extending前面要加上“,”,或者补出that才能使句子结构明朗。


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作者: snowfield    时间: 2006-6-25 13:21

浮云的说法有些道理,不过不知道有没有其他例证?本题的B/E选项的确不容易排除,也许我们可以这样理解:modifier还是应找最近的reference,否则如果modifier离reference太远的话就应该用从句的方式更具体明了的说明修饰关系。


作者: maydaythekid    时间: 2006-8-10 02:28
以下是引用snowfield在2006-6-25 13:21:00的发言:

浮云的说法有些道理,不过不知道有没有其他例证?本题的B/E选项的确不容易排除,也许我们可以这样理解:modifier还是应找最近的reference,否则如果modifier离reference太远的话就应该用从句的方式更具体明了的说明修饰关系。


作者: jackwoo5    时间: 2007-7-17 22:19

再顶一下

此题属疑难杂症,看完多片讨论仍是一头雾水,哎


作者: SindyMao    时间: 2007-7-18 13:34
以下是引用vincent0330在2004-8-9 5:01:00的发言:

Scientists have recently discovered what could be the largest and oldest living organism on Earth, a giant fungus
                that is an interwoven filigree of mushrooms and rootlike tentacles spawned by a single fertilized spore some 10,000 years ago and that is extending for more than 30 acres in the soil of a Michigan forest.

你说的"大蘑菇"是a giant fungus吗??

首先我用roberta的例子来说, 两个that从句形式不对等, 在ETS上来说应该叫awkward, and non-parallel structure. 并不是说现分修饰fungus不好...

其次, 从(A)原句来看,

Scientists have recently discovered what could be the largest and oldest living organism on Earth, a giant fungus that is an interwoven filigree
                of
                mushrooms and rootlike tentacles
                spawned by a single fertilized spore some 10,000 years ago and
                extending for more than 30 acres in the soil of a Michigan forest.

其中的spawned 和 extending 都是修饰 an interwoven filigree of mushrooms and rootlike tentacles, 若是直接跳跃修饰a giant fungus, 个人觉得不妥.....况且that从句里面的修饰语是跳跃修饰that从句的先行词也是不妥...

干吗不能理解成spawned和extending的先行词是tentacles, 哈哈,水越搅越浑。。。???


作者: sch    时间: 2007-9-9 01:46
以下是引用fuyun在2005-10-13 22:48:00的发言:

回楼上:

我觉得不论题意,想使E is extending, B extends, 要和前面的that is 构成平行,至少题目中的and is extending前面要加上“,”,或者补出that才能使句子结构明朗。


我认为问题不在于此.

1, E: is extending是一个进行时,其实是表动作,而原句 that is an interwoven,,,是系表结构,不对称

2, 最好补上that,形成从句平行

3, and前面逗号倒是不需要的,因为and is extending不是独立的句子,加了逗号反而run on


作者: realme923    时间: 2008-2-8 09:12
以下是引用SindyMao在2007-7-18 13:34:00的发言:

干吗不能理解成spawned和extending的先行词是tentacles, 哈哈,水越搅越浑。。。???

呵呵,个人分析后,把结构拆分为以下结构that引导的应该是同位语结构来解释giant fungus,后面分词结构修饰giant fungus。在这里就不翻译了,免得见笑,:-)

giant fungus,一种(of mushrooms and rootlike tentaclesinterwoven filigree),spawned。。。and extending。。。


作者: sunnypiggy    时间: 2008-3-6 04:46
 顶一个,这句话到底怎么翻译呀?句意上感觉spawned和extending修饰filigree理解不通啊。filigree到底啥意思啊?
作者: Cafe    时间: 2008-4-9 02:02

interwoven filigree 把他解釋成:交織的菌絲...

不知道有沒有比較通


作者: winnemashi    时间: 2009-9-3 14:45
以下是引用realme923在2008/2/8 9:12:00的发言:

呵呵,个人分析后,把结构拆分为以下结构that引导的应该是同位语结构来解释giant fungus,后面分词结构修饰giant fungus。在这里就不翻译了,免得见笑,:-)

giant fungus,一种(of mushrooms and rootlike tentaclesinterwoven filigree),spawned。。。and extending。。。


[此贴子已经被作者于2009/9/28 16:10:02编辑过]

作者: lynnezhou小白    时间: 2010-11-28 00:54
我觉得可以这样理解,他这里打了个比喻,把fungus比作filigree,为的是更加直观,of mushrooms and rootlike tentacles 进一步说明这是一种什么样的filigree,spawned和extending的确是修饰filigree的,但是filigree是fungus的喻体,所以spawned和extending在语法上修饰filigree,实则修饰fungus,不知道对不对
作者: dingdingxixi    时间: 2010-11-28 11:48

以下是引用paopao在2004-8-9 1:28:00的发言:


其次, 从(A)原句来看,

Scientists have recently discovered what could be the largest and oldest living organism on Earth, a giant fungus that is an interwoven filigree of mushrooms and rootlike tentacles spawned by a single fertilized spore some 10,000 years ago and extending for more than 30 acres in the soil of a Michigan forest.

其中的spawned 和 extending 都是修饰 an interwoven filigree of mushrooms and rootlike tentacles, 若是直接跳跃修饰a giant fungus, 个人觉得不妥.....况且that从句里面的修饰语是跳跃修饰that从句的先行词也是不妥...
-- by 会员 vincent0330 (2004/8/9 5:01:00)


同意Vincent的说法

句中giant fungus前有个A,表示fungus只有一个。再看后面,可以这么理解:an interwoven filigree修饰的是a giant fungus,of后面的 mushrooms和rootlike tentacles一起诠释这个giant fungus或者是interwoven filigree。如果考虑到就近修饰的话,那么后面的spawn和extending就应该是指filigree了...这么解释会不会有一些牵强了?...这么说的话那后面的sprawn和extend无论指fungus还是指filigree都其实是在指同一个东西了...

哦 还有一点 文中and连接的sprawned by用的是被动并且接了by 表示这个覆盖面积很大的东西是被a single fertilized spore大量繁殖 后面的extending可以理解成这个覆盖面积很大的东西是被大量繁殖后依靠自己的力量扩张到more than 30 acres 所谓被动主动 是看能否通过自己的能力完成这个事情吧 如果extend和sprawned并列改成extended 那么它就没有后面by的这个对象了

这么样解释可以么...请NN指点..
作者: 抓抓sandra    时间: 2011-7-9 12:01
我觉得可以这样理解,他这里打了个比喻,把fungus比作filigree,为的是更加直观,of mushrooms and rootlike tentacles 进一步说明这是一种什么样的filigree,spawned和extending的确是修饰filigree的,但是filigree是fungus的喻体,所以spawned和extending在语法上修饰filigree,实则修饰fungus,不知道对不对
-- by 会员 lynnezhou小白 (2010/11/28 0:54:58)

以下是引用SindyMao在2007-7-18 13:34:00的发言:
干吗不能理解成spawned和extending的先行词是tentacles, 哈哈,水越搅越浑。。。???
呵呵,个人分析后,把结构拆分为以下结构that引导的应该是同位语结构来解释giant fungus,后面分词结构修饰giant fungus。在这里就不翻译了,免得见笑,:-)

giant fungus,一种(of mushrooms and rootlike tentaclesinterwoven filigree),spawned。。。and extending。。。

-- by 会员 realme923 (2008/2/8 9:12:00)





个人觉得这两种说法最靠谱..
把句意看一下,就会发现不可能去修饰tentacles(触角)..
但是我还有另外一个问题,OG上说:
Spawned refers to something
that happened in the past, while extending
refers to something that continues into
the present.


这个说法我表示不能理解,spawned在这里不应该是表示孵化是被动的、extending是主动的吗?为什么会解释成一个是发生在过去,一个延续到现在呢?感觉说不通啊~
作者: xiaoshuo199183    时间: 2013-8-13 13:44
抓抓sandra 发表于 2011-7-9 12:01
我觉得可以这样理解,他这里打了个比喻,把fungus比作filigree,为的是更加直观,of mushrooms and root ...

抓的这个问题我也有,不知道抓抓弄明白了没~我也觉得用主动被动就能解释了,为什么跟时态还有关系了。




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