请教这道题目的解题思路,谢谢
A recent review of pay scales indicates that CEO’s now earn an average of 419 times more pay than blue-collar workers, compared to a ratio of 42 times in 1980.
宾从that-排除DE;
主谓比较的合理性、compared to的逻辑主语-排除A;
as compared to的逻辑主语、their的指代、句子的罗嗦-排除C;
答案是B
1 DE是名词,把句子改写成名词,句子的重心由event变成sb,必错。
2 on average和 average pay的问题:前者说的是一般来讲,Ceo挣的是工人的419倍,而average pay表示的是平均工资是419倍,意思有差别,常识上讲,调查的结论应该是确切的平均工资而不是大体的情况,特别是已经计算到如此,得出419这个数。BC out
3 B里面说 ratio compares~~,ratio 做compares 的主语说不通。
所以,我选A
1 DE是名词,把句子改写成名词,句子的重心由event变成sb,必错。
2 on average和 average pay的问题:前者说的是一般来讲,Ceo挣的是工人的419倍,而average pay表示的是平均工资是419倍,意思有差别,常识上讲,调查的结论应该是确切的平均工资而不是大体的情况,特别是已经计算到如此,得出419这个数。BC out
3 B里面说 ratio compares~~,ratio 做compares 的主语说不通。
所以,我选A
如果是A, 那compared to a ratio of 42 times的逻辑主语是谁?
B中的a ratio that compares to 42 times看起来是同位语从句补充解释419times的情况,ratio 不是做compares 的主语,而是同位语从句修饰词.
大家讨论?
谢谢Topterminater,
我觉得 “,过去分词作定语” 的确是由问题的形式。偶现在觉得B对了,谢谢你的指教。
还是不太明白,a肯定不对,可是我还是不明白a ratio that compares to 42 times的结构,a ratio是ets的惯用招数,指代前文的内容,可我觉得意应该是a ratio compared to 42 times啊?
指教!
谢谢!
答案是B 应该没什么问题
只是a ratio that compares to 42 times in 1980 感觉不对啊
1 compare的主语只能是人 怎么能是ratio呢
2 要用compare with 不能用compare to 啊
3a ratio that compares to 42 times in 1980 总感觉意思读得怪怪的
谢谢
同感。
compare的主语可以不是人,Longman有以下解释:
3. [intransitive]to be better or worse than something else
compare (favourably/unfavourably) with something
- The quality of English wines can now compare with wines from Germany.
不过我同意这道题里面不符合上面的条件,ratio不应该是主语.
这就是GMAT SC难搞的地方了,单独来看,我肯定不会用这样的结构,不过比较下来,其他选项错误更多。感觉像在非洲里面选小白,
前面忘了说,这点也是同感。
谢谢rhod
答案是B 应该没什么问题
只是a ratio that compares to 42 times in 1980 感觉不对啊
1 compare的主语只能是人 怎么能是ratio呢
2 要用compare with 不能用compare to 啊
3a ratio that compares to 42 times in 1980 总感觉意思读得怪怪的
谢谢
a good observation. bunnier had similar doubts. but, longman says "compare to" is cool in this type of usage:
2 compared to/with something
used when considering the size, quality, or amount of something in relation to something similar
- a 20% reduction in burglary compared with last year
- Compared to our small flat, Bill's house seemed like a palace.
多多讨论...
i think B is correct."a ratio that compares to 42 times" 应该是
a ratio that now earn 419 times compares to 42 times in 1980.平行并省略.不知对否?
指教!
谢谢
请问大家认为原句和正确答案B都出现的CEO’s 是怎样的结构?如果表示主格,那么省略了哪个名词呢? ’s或者表示主格,或者表示系动词is,是吧。请指教!
自己顶一下,请明白这个问题的人好心帮忙回答一下呀!
B是正确答案没有疑问,但是偶做的时候看CEO’s 以为原句结构不全,耽误了好些宝贵的时间。现在仍是不清楚,’s表主格,或系动词is,或助动词is(进行时中),是吧。那么这里呢。。。
大家帮忙看一下呀!
这里CEO's是CEO的复数表达,不是所有格表达.
在某些首字母缩略的单词里,其复数形式可以加上s或's. 如:
VIP(Very important person), VIP's, VIPs
POW(prisoner of war), POW's, POWs
参考自tianwan兄上传的章振邦语法P.119.
谢谢rhod!谢谢流沙!
我在RC的文章中已明确地看到了“...cheif executive officers(CEO’s)...”。大家在GMAT的文章里可以找到的。今天上来想自己回复一下的,一看rhod、流沙已讨论过了。
这个问题只是自己阅读时觉得有些不顺,但对做这道sc来说是无关紧要的。
宾从that-排除DE;
主谓比较的合理性、compared to的逻辑主语-排除A;
as compared to的逻辑主语、their的指代、句子的罗嗦-排除C;
答案是B
可以麻烦石头人讲的详细些么,比如A中的“主谓比较的合理性”具体来说是哪边有问题呢,偶只是感觉不太对劲,但是说不清楚哪边不对劲,思路不清晰,还请多多指教的说,感谢感谢!!
另:原题目供参考(呵呵。。省得翻页了)
A recent review of pay scales indicates that CEO’s now earn an average of 419 times more pay than blue-collar workers, compared to a ratio of 42 times in 1980.
compare to 解释为:比作,比喻;
compare A with B 解释为:A和B作比较
谢谢石头人的解答,可偶还是有如下问题:
1.compare to是比喻,比作的意思,在这句里面好像解释不通?
2。A中的主谓比较的怎么不合理了呢?
请多指教。。。谢谢!
这样的,
要用比喻,比作的意思,必需用compare to
要用比较,对比的意思,则二者兼可。
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a good observation. bunnier had similar doubts. but, longman says "compare to" is cool in this type of usage:
2 compared to/with something
used when considering the size, quality, or amount of something in relation to something similar
- a 20% reduction in burglary compared with last year
- Compared to our small flat, Bill's house seemed like a palace.
我的感觉, a ratio that 这个 that指的是 前面CEO这句话,实际应该是下面这样
A recent review of pay scales indicates that, on average, CEO’s now earn 419 times the pay of blue-collar workers, a ratio that compares to 42 times in 1980.
= A recent review of pay scales indicates that a ratio, on average, CEO’s now earn 419 times the pay of blue-collar workers compares to 42 times in 1980.
= A recent review of pay scales indicates that a ratio, on average, CEO’s now earn 419 times the pay of blue-collar workers compares to the ratio, on average, CEO’s now earn 419 times the pay of blue-collar workers 42 times in 1980.
由于这个定语太长了所以放到一边说,不知理解对不对。NN指点!
我的感觉, a ratio that 这个 that指的是 前面CEO这句话,实际应该是下面这样
A recent review of pay scales indicates that, on average, CEO’s now earn 419 times the pay of blue-collar workers, a ratio that compares to 42 times in 1980.
= A recent review of pay scales indicates that a ratio, on average, CEO’s now earn 419 times the pay of blue-collar workers compares to 42 times in 1980.
= A recent review of pay scales indicates that a ratio, on average, CEO’s now earn 419 times the pay of blue-collar workers compares to the ratio, on average, CEO’s now earn 419 times the pay of blue-collar workers 42 times in 1980.
由于这个定语太长了所以放到一边说,不知理解对不对。NN指点!
Buddy 我不这么认为!
我觉得这里最后一个部分是主句宾从的同位语部分。这里的that是指代先行词ratio。
如果非要改写(表达重点却变了!),我认为可以这样:
A recent review of pay scales indicates that(为避重复可省掉) a ratio that, on average, CEO’s now earn 419 times the pay of blue-collar workers compares to 42 times in 1980.
再探讨~
这样的,
要用比喻,比作的意思,必需用compare to
要用比较,对比的意思,则二者兼可。
引用13楼
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谢谢buddyk斑竹的解答!!
现在再看这题倒感觉B顺眼多了(是不是偶看得多了,面熟。。),觉得B明确的点出了和谁compare,相比之下A和C就不太明确的说。。。
同意Jerry的说法,偶也觉得B中后面的that是指代先行词ratio.
多多讨论~~~
可以麻烦石头人讲的详细些么,比如A中的“主谓比较的合理性”具体来说是哪边有问题呢,偶只是感觉不太对劲,但是说不清楚哪边不对劲,思路不清晰,还请多多指教的说,感谢感谢!!
另:原题目供参考(呵呵。。省得翻页了)
A recent review of pay scales indicates that CEO’s now earn an average of 419 times more pay than blue-collar workers, compared to a ratio of 42 times in 1980.
我来总结一下,首先答案是B。 看我上面的分析。
谢谢wlee226的详细解答!!
可偶对你说的“that CEO’s now earn an average of 419 times more pay than blue-collar workers, compared to a ratio of 42 times (A中把CEO和RATIO相比,不具有可比性。)”不是很确定,因为偶不很肯定compared to连接的两个东东是不是一定要有可比性??
compared with连接的两个东东好像可以不具备可比性,查longman知道compared with的句子有:a 20% reduction in burglary compared with last year
不知compared to有没有这样的句子,请大家多多讨论,帮忙确认,感谢感谢!!
compare to 作为比作的意思的时候,才不需要二者具有可比性;
但是compare to 和 compare with 作为比较的意思的时候,二者必须具有可比性。
想想a 20% reduction in burglary compared with last year 说的什么同什么比较?
compare to 作为比作的意思的时候,才不需要二者具有可比性;
但是compare to 和 compare with 作为比较的意思的时候,二者必须具有可比性。
想想a 20% reduction in burglary compared with last year 说的什么同什么比较?
谢谢buddyk的解释 很清楚的说 对的,偶明白了,a 20% reduction in burglary compared with last year 是省略句,还原后是a 20% reduction in burglary compared with the reduction in burglary last year.
另外,偶现在再看题目A选项(见下),又有一个想法,我觉得A中compared to跟谁比较很不清楚,既然是主语优先的话,compared to是应该优先修饰主语a recent review呢,还是宾语从句的主语CEO's呢,不明确,可以这么理解么?请NN确认,谢谢!
A recent review of pay scales indicates that CEO’s now earn an average of 419 times more pay than blue-collar workers, compared to a ratio of 42 times in 1980.
A和B相比,一个用了more than结构,一个没有用,那个更好呢
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A和B相比,一个用了more than结构,一个没有用,那个更好呢
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是呀,A-- more 就是说CEO赚了419+1=420倍,如果从这个角度说,B改了原题的意思呀。
注意英语中的倍数表达和汉语稍有不同,下面三个句子表达同样意思:
A is N times as much as B.
A is N times more than B. (和汉语不同,也是N倍!不是N+1倍!)
A is N times the amount of B.
A是B的n倍或A比B大N-1倍.
这题答案应该是B。以前一直以为compare只能是用被动,看来不对。查了一下Google News,用“compares to”的有2080条,加上“compare to”还有1650条,用“compared to”的有38700条,最多,“as compared to”有4440条。有许多类似B的例子用来表示数字比较的,尤其用于财务报告中。一个公司的PR,有这么一句话:(yahoo.com)
“Net revenue for the fourth quarter of 2004 was $347.6 million, a record that compares to $173.4 million in the fourth quarter of 2003. ”
如果ABC中compare的用法都可以的话,那大家应该都会承认B最好罢。
题目中的CEO'S应该是CEOS 吧,虽然只是一个小问题,但影响做题啊!
宾语从句加that, 排除D和E。A和C中CEOS不能作后面compared to的逻辑主语,且C中的their代词指代有问题,前面有两个复数名词,原则上应优先指代主语,显然和句意不符。
谢谢anyname,举的例子太贴切了.
如果是A, 那compared to a ratio of 42 times的逻辑主语是谁?
B中的a ratio that compares to 42 times看起来是同位语从句补充解释419times的情况,ratio 不是做compares 的主语,而是同位语从句修饰词.
大家讨论?
the subject of "Compared to" could be "an average of 419 times". Is there a grammatical rule that requires the subject of "compared to" be the closest noun? in this case "workers"?
B doesn't feel right to me, it seems so wierd.
有没有哪位NN能总结一下ratio的用法啊?好象ETS经常出这种题
The rules are made to be broken! 做题多了你会发现XDF的方法只能帮助你接近700, 是否能达到700, 单靠它是不够的.
这里不能选compared主要因为没有compare的比较对象. 倒是什么在比较, 前面没有一个与ratio等价的名词, 需要补出同位语来澄清意思.
谢谢NN,其实我也觉得关键还是自身实力啦!但XDF有的老师的确上的很好,尤其是上海XDF的老师,比如小安
谢谢姐姐的解答,这题终于完全懂了。佩服姐姐790!
UP.
who can help with the explanation about the answer in B,
.., a ratio that compares to 42 times in 1980. That is the relative clause who modifies the ration. so whats the struction of a ration (the only noun in the end of the sentence).
my answer is A.
想问一下,如果B改成a ratio compares to 42 times,就是去掉指代ratio的that,这个选项是不是也正确呢?
这里CEO's是CEO的复数表达,不是所有格表达.
在某些首字母缩略的单词里,其复数形式可以加上s或's. 如:
VIP(Very important person), VIP's, VIPs
POW(prisoner of war), POW's, POWs
嗯!我觉得是因为要是不加'而直接加s的话,CEOs会导致像一个缩写(像MSc)而不是缩写的复数
新的模考软件答案是c,有人同意c的吗?
难道新的模考软件除了数学,其他题也有bug?
为什么their不能指ceo's呢?难道用逻辑可以排除歧义?
b为什么错呢?是不是后面compares to 42 times in 1980,省略的太多,不完整了?
新的莫考里面有答案,是c.
http://forum.chasedream.com/dispbbs.asp?boardid=23&replyid=1416384&id=151418&page=1&skin=0&Star=1
我觉得b的错误在于,compares to ,作为主动的用法,这个词组的一意思是:比喻为~~
而as compared to 是较为固定的用法,是as something be compared to sth,...和...比较的时候。
勉强的说通了
至于大家说的代词的问题,这里真的是不能认真(为了配合答案) ,因为如果真的较真儿,这几个答案没有一个是没有问题的.只能说c的错误要少些.
The Pew study also shows that the gender ration of wired seniors has changed from 60 percent men and 40 percent women to a 50-50 ration, which compares to the national average.
可能原来讨论的答案B需要更正,我做了GmatPrep,刚好遇到这题,里面给出的答案是C,我估计可能是因为compare主动被动的差别引起的
我prefer C
CR原题:
The number of people diagnosed as having a certain intestinal disease has dropped significantly in a rural county this year, as compared to last year. Health officials attribute this decrease entirely to improved sanitary conditions at water-treatment plants, which made for cleaner water this year and thus reduced the incidence of the disease.
但是如果是C的话,
C.that, on average, CEO’s now earn 419 times the pay of blue-collar workers, as compared to 42 times their pay, the ratio
这个their 和the ratio又都指代谁呀?都是什么成分呀?
越看越糊涂了……
但是如果是C的话,
C.that, on average, CEO’s now earn 419 times the pay of blue-collar workers, as compared to 42 times their pay, the ratio
这个their 和the ratio又都指代谁呀?都是什么成分呀?
越看越糊涂了……
请大家讨论,NN指点!
REALLY?
图哪?
A.that CEO’s now earn an average of 419 times more pay than blue-collar workers, compared to a ratio of 42 times
B.that, on average, CEO’s now earn 419 times the pay of blue-collar workers, a ratio that compares to 42 times
请问A 和B的主语再哪里啊,我觉得Earn是CEO‘s 的所有格宾语啊,那么主语再哪里啊,如果没有主语的话有哪里来的indicate that 从句呢?!所以我就选了E
“宾从that-排除DE;” 以上来就排除非宾从结构是不对的,
请指教
还是支持B,PP3有bug的,有人做数学就碰到过的。
相信自己,700+
注意英语中的倍数表达和汉语稍有不同,下面三个句子表达同样意思:
A is N times as much as B.
A is N times more than B. (和汉语不同,也是N倍!不是N+1倍!)
A is N times the amount of B.
A是B的n倍或A比B大N-1倍.
确定有A is N times more than B.这种用法吗?查了twice,只有twice as many/much as,或者twice the size/number这种用法,好像一般不在多少倍后面再加more的吧……
The screenshot is attached.
[attachimg]50717[/attachimg]啊,不会吧,这题选C????偶晕鸟。。。
a ratio 是独立主格结构,用来解释前面的419TIMES.我认为
那个模考软件是有BUG的,我就亲自遇到了,甚至是他的解释是B可是答案是C。相信真理,不要相信什么软件,软件是人遍的出错误也是难免。选B
compare to 不是比喻的意思吗?
总觉得应该用compare with 吧......
A的问题在AN AVERAGE的位置不对。感觉读起来很别扭。
单纯争论到底是COMPARE WITH还是COMPARE TO感觉没有太大意义。
意思差的不多。
从我搜索的结果来看,compare to, compare with在表示比较的意思时,都可以用,根据几个美国英文写作网站的解释,而compare to 更多了一层比喻的意思,而compare with 没有。
as compared to,从搜索到的用法看来,更多用在不完整的短语中,例如Use of Wikis as Compared to Other Tools , Influence of fish protein as compared to casein and soy protein ,
而compare to/with常常都说明一个什么问题,一个结果,一个结论,如This gives a pretty good clue how much higher prices, and wages, were in the United States compared to most of the rest of the world., Earth is tiny compared to
everything else in the universe
好像有点胡说八道。。。。
宾从that-排除DE;
主谓比较的合理性、compared to的逻辑主语-排除A;
as compared to的逻辑主语、their的指代、句子的罗嗦-排除C;
答案是B
主谓比较的合理性、compared to的逻辑主语-排除A;如何理解阿?
我在字典里看到这样的话:Both compared to and compared with are widely used, although some speakers of British English do not consider compared to acceptable.
所以用compared to没有问题吧。
我认为选B,这样理解的,调查显示CEO的平均工资是蓝领工人的419倍,这个比率在1980年是42倍。如果选了C,那么the ratio特指了419,不能指1980年的42,另外,c中their指代不清楚,在指ceo还是workers不能分辨。最重要的是,选c,就完全不知道那段话在讲什么了......
我在字典里看到这样的话:Both compared to and compared with are widely used, although some speakers of British English do not consider compared to acceptable.
所以用compared to没有问题吧。
我认为选B,这样理解的,调查显示CEO的平均工资是蓝领工人的419倍,这个比率在1980年是42倍。如果选了C,那么the ratio特指了419,不能指1980年的42,另外,c中their指代不清楚,在指ceo还是workers不能分辨。最重要的是,选c,就完全不知道那段话在讲什么了......
严重支持楼上所说!~
大家不要开玩笑了,这个题目不是prep的吗?
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A recent review of pay scales indicates that CEO's now earn an average of 419 times more pay than blue-collar workers, compared to a ratio of 42 times in 1980.
(A) that CEO's now earn an average of 419 times more pay than blue-collar workers, compared to a ratio of 42 times
(B) that, on average, CEO's now earn 419 times the pay of blue-collar workers, a ratio that compares to 42 times
(C) that, on average, CEO's now earn 419 times the pay of blue-collar workers, as compared to 42 times their pay, the ratio
(D) CEO's who now earn on average 419 times more pay than blue-collar workers, as compared to 42 times their pay, the ratio
(E) CEO's now earning an average of 419 times the pay of blue-collar workers, compared to the ratio of 42 times
而PREP给的答案是C啊
OMG.这个GWD给的答案的都是B,前面一堆讨论觉得B挺好。
最后来个prep给出C的答案???、
软件到底有没有bug???
偶上新东方,老师说过compare/base在GMAT里肯定不能用主动,要用被动。
当然不能这么教条,但这里that compares to也确实不对。
答案确实是B?
C,原因是把这个ratio搞清楚
选B都认为ration是419:1, 然后这个ratio和另一个ratio42:1
但是选C是指,ratio为419:42
选C, as compared to 42 times their pay, the ratio...
this is to be parrell with CEO's now ear 419 times the pay of blue collar workers, because "as compared to" requires parallell structure and expression. "their pay" parallells with "the pay of blue worker", and "the ratio" is added to introduce "in 1980" to avoid confusion.
我认为,如果选B句子的重心出现偏差,一个句子应该只有一个中心。B中前面讲了现在老板挣的是工人的多少倍,后面突然冒出一个同位语ratio,这个ratio 又说要跟1980年的比,那这个句子到底想表达什么呢?
如果选C,意思就很明显同1980年的49倍相比,现在老板挣多少倍。简单明了。
所以,我觉得应该是C.
新东方老师讲,在前面一段话对后面的影响时,后面的句子用一个新名词或现在分词来表示,这里的ratio就是一个新名词,但是显然不能看成是前面的一段话的影响呀,所以B肯定不对。表达不清楚。
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A recent review of pay scales
indicates that CEO's now earn an average of 419 times more pay than blue-collar workers, compared to a ratio of 42 times in 1980.
(A) that CEO's now earn an average of 419 times more pay than blue-collar workers, compared to a ratio of 42 times
(B) that, on average, CEO's now earn 419 times the pay of blue-collar workers, a ratio that compares to 42 times
(C) that, on average, CEO's now earn 419 times the pay of blue-collar workers, as compared to 42 times their pay, the ratio
(D) CEO's who now earn on average 419 times more pay than blue-collar workers, as compared to 42 times their pay, the ratio
(E) CEO's now earning an average of 419 times the pay of blue-collar workers, compared to the ratio of 42 times
132. C 31556-!-item-!-188;#058&004545
我一开始选择的是c,后来看了前边的帖子感觉c似乎是有指代不明的问题,但是我感觉因为as compared to 前后的结构是一致的,所以我感觉their代表workers是understandable的。我感觉问题的关键是对比的平行:B选项是说ratio和42 times去对比,而C是说419 times 和 42 times去比,所以感觉C的结构更加平行,一致,合理。我当时读C的时候就感觉很顺:CEO's now earn 419 times
the pay of blue-collar workers, as compared to 42 times
their pay. 一点个人的看法,请大家指正。
破解版笔记已经说的很详细了~PREP 1 132
没必要再在这道题上纠结下去了
选C 结题吧~~~~~
Indicate that…idiom
CEO’s=CEOs
C 和D中 as compared to 不对. 另外their pay 不明..
A中不对称, 应该是CEO’s earn 419 times than blue-collar workers
do
E 应该是 be doing吧?
个人觉得 compared àcompares , 因为是now earn.
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