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标题: GWD-13-17 [打印本页]

作者: ReedSong    时间: 2004-7-12 15:48
标题: GWD-13-17

Q16 to Q19:

      In 1675, Louis XIV

       established the Parisian

       seamstresses’ guild, the first

Line       independent all-female guild

  (5)      created in over 200 years.

Guild members could make

and sell women’s and chil-

dren’s clothing, but were

prohibited from producing

(10)      men’s clothing or dresses

for court women.  Tailors

resented the ascension of

seamstresses to guild status;

seamstresses, meanwhile,

(15)      were impatient with the

remaining restrictions on

their right to clothe women.

      The conflict between

the guilds was not purely

(20)      economic, however.  A 1675

       police report indicated that

       since so many seamstresses

were already working illegally,

the tailors were unlikely to

(25)      suffer additional economic

damage because of the

seamstresses’ incorporation.

Moreover, guild membership

held very different meanings

(30)      for tailors and seamstresses.

To the tailors, their status as

guild members overlapped

       with their role as heads of

household, and entitled them

(35)    to employ as seamstresses

female family members who

did not marry outside the trade.

The seamstresses, however,

      viewed guild membership as

(40)     a mark of independence from

the patriarchal family.  Their

guild was composed not of

family units but of individual

women who enjoyed unusual

(45)      legal and economic privileges.

       At the conflict’s center was

the issue of whether tailors’

female relatives should be

identified as family members

(50)      protected by the tailors’ guild

or as individuals under the

jurisdiction of the seam-

stresses’ guild.

Q17:

According to the passage, one source of dissatisfaction for Parisian seamstresses after the establishment of the seamstresses’ guild was that

              

  1. seamstresses were not allowed to make and sell clothing for all women

  2. tailors continued to have the exclusive legal right to clothe men

  3. seamstresses who were relatives of tailors were prevented from becoming members of the seamstresses’ guild

  4. rivalry between individual seamstresses increased, thus hindering their ability to compete with the tailors for business

  5. seamstresses were not allowed to accept male tailors as members of the guild

参考答案为A,我选B.

参考答案为A,我选B.

主要是涉及到对:

对“seamstresses,meanwhile, were impatient with the remaining restrictions on their right to clothe women.”的理解问题:是对被限定于只能给women做衣服还是对被限定为不能为全部women做衣服感到impatient?

文中提到:

Guild members could make

and sell women’s and chil-

dren’s clothing, but were

prohibited from producing

(10)      men’s clothing or dresses

for court women.

我的理解是,court women应该占的比例很少,所以,seamstresses更应该是对被限定为不能给men做衣服而感到impatient。

请NN指点。

Guild members could make

and sell women’s and chil-

dren’s clothing, but were

prohibited from producing

(10)      men’s clothing or dresses

for court women.

我的理解是,court women应该占的比例很少,所以,seamstresses更应该是对被限定为不能给men做衣服而感到impatient。

请NN指点。

主要是涉及到对:

对“seamstresses,meanwhile, were impatient with the remaining restrictions on their right to clothe women.”的理解问题:是对被限定于只能给women做衣服还是对被限定为不能为全部women做衣服感到impatient?

文中提到:

Guild members could make

and sell women’s and chil-

dren’s clothing, but were

prohibited from producing

(10)      men’s clothing or dresses

for court women.

我的理解是,court women应该占的比例很少,所以,seamstresses更应该是对被限定为不能给men做衣服而感到impatient。

请NN指点。

Guild members could make

and sell women’s and chil-

dren’s clothing, but were

prohibited from producing

(10)      men’s clothing or dresses

for court women.

我的理解是,court women应该占的比例很少,所以,seamstresses更应该是对被限定为不能给men做衣服而感到impatient。

请NN指点。



作者: 醋醋妹妹    时间: 2004-7-13 03:00

be restricted on --- 对...有限制

be restricted to --- 仅限制于做...

were impatient with the remaining restrictions on their right to clothe women是指对做妇女的衣服有限制(你能做女人的衣服, 但不是所有的, 比如说宫廷贵妇的衣服你就不能做)

文中的impatient与问题中的dissatification对应, 偶选A.

court women比例少不少, 与答题不相关且文中未提到.


作者: ReedSong    时间: 2004-7-13 16:24
明白了,多谢醋醋MM指点!
作者: 青鸟    时间: 2004-7-20 16:23

我还是倾向于选b.

请大家讨论一下。


作者: 银钩铁划    时间: 2004-7-22 16:41

17 物品觉得是A

另外,19我觉得有异议

Q19:B A

The author mentions the seamstresses’ view of guild membership as a “mark of independence from the patriarchal family” (lines 40-41) primarily in order to

  1. emphasize that the establishment of the seamstresses’ guild had implications that were not solely economic
  2. illustrate the conflict that existed between tailors and their female family members over membership in the tailors’ guild
  3. imply that the establishment of the seamstresses’ guild ushered in a period of increased economic and social freedom for women in France
  4. provide an explanation for the dramatic increase in the number of women working as seamstresses after 1675
  5. indicate that members of the seamstresses’ guild were financially more successful than were tailors’ female relatives protected by the tailors’ guild

答案A,我选B


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作者: nanalin    时间: 2004-7-30 15:52

Q17:
According to the passage, one source of dissatisfaction for Parisian seamstresses after the establishment of the seamstresses’ guild was that
A.      seamstresses were not allowed to make and sell clothing for all women
B.       tailors continued to have the exclusive legal right to clothe men
C.       seamstresses who were relatives of tailors were prevented from becoming members of the seamstresses’ guild
D.      rivalry between individual seamstresses increased, thus hindering their ability to compete with the tailors for business
E.       seamstresses were not allowed to accept male tailors as members of the guild

我一开始选B, 後来仔细看过句子之後,认为原答案A是对的
Guild members could make and sell women’s and children’s clothing, but were prohibited from producing men’s clothing or dresses for court women.
会员们呢, 可以做或卖女人小孩的衣服,但是被限制不能做男人的或者宫廷贵妇的
(第 2 楼,感谢醋醋妹妹精采的解释!)
Tailors resented the ascension of seamstresses to guild status; seamstresses, meanwhile, were impatient with the remaining restrictions on their right to clothe women.
男裁缝师不爽女裁缝师在公会地位的高升; 而此时人家女裁缝师也对 “在做女人衣服方面依旧有的限制”感到不耐烦
(互相不满)


作者: fair_sword    时间: 2004-7-31 10:30
17, B错在文章没有说tailors是不是可以给男人做。
作者: caterpillar    时间: 2004-8-17 00:45
以下是引用fair_sword在2004-7-31 10:30:00的发言:
17, B错在文章没有说tailors是不是可以给男人做。


这个好象应该是common sense吧,女裁缝不许做,要是男裁缝也不许做的话,男人都穿什么呀?:)况且,这里明显表达的意思是:以前是所有衣服都归男裁缝做,现在女裁缝可以做女人和孩子的衣服了。


17题我还是觉得选B更好,当然主要还是在于对这句话的理解:were impatient with the remaining restrictions on their right to clothe women.我觉得这句话的意思是:对于仍然限制她们只许做女人的衣服表示不耐烦。


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作者: 小鱼儿    时间: 2004-8-19 00:36
19题,我选的也是B。

那一段就是围绕conflict的原因,作者提出不仅是economic  factor导致conflict。题中所引的那段话就是在讲到一个factor时作为阐释出现的,所以B选项对。A选项错在不是the establishment of the seamstresses’ guild had implications that were not solely economic,而是conflict 的reason 不仅是economic。


作者: davidzhn    时间: 2004-8-25 13:58

19题好混淆,

A emphasize that the establishment of the seamstresses’ guild had implications that were not solely economic

A 看上去像正确答案,因为你不能说它是错的, 但是,这这范围扩得太大了,原文是The conflict between the guilds was not purely  economic,

B illustrate the conflict that existed between tailors and their female family members over membership in the tailors’ guild

关键是后面的 conflict.. over membership in the tailors' guild 总结得对不对

At the conflict’s center was

the issue of whether tailors’

female relatives should be

identified as family members

(50)      protected by the tailors’ guild

or as individuals under the

jurisdiction of the seam-

stresses’ guild.

感觉用membership 来概括好像不太贴切。


作者: blackpalms    时间: 2004-8-31 07:52

#19

I think the error in choice B is "THE CONFLICT BETWEEN TAILORS AND THEIR FEMALE FAMILY MEMBERS."

At the conflict’s center was

the issue of whether tailors’

female relatives should be

identified as family members

(50)      protected by the tailors’ guild

or as individuals under the

jurisdiction of the seam-

stresses’ guild.

We can see from this sentence that the actual conflict is between whether the female family member of the tailors should be in the TAILOR'S GUILD or in SEAMSTRESSES' GUILD.

Chice D says that the conflict is between the FEMALE FAMILY MEMBERS OF THE TAILORS and the TAILORS. No where in the passage mentioned there is a conflict between the two parties picked by Choice D.

Although the conflict of which guild do the female family members belong existed, there is no conflict between female family members and tailors.

thanx and open to discussion  ^_^


作者: fair_sword    时间: 2004-8-31 16:44
以下是引用caterpillar在2004-8-17 0:45:00的发言:



这个好象应该是common sense吧,女裁缝不许做,要是男裁缝也不许做的话,男人都穿什么呀?:)况且,这里明显表达的意思是:以前是所有衣服都归男裁缝做,现在女裁缝可以做女人和孩子的衣服了。


17题我还是觉得选B更好,当然主要还是在于对这句话的理解:were impatient with the remaining restrictions on their right to clothe women.我觉得这句话的意思是:对于仍然限制她们只许做女人的衣服表示不耐烦。



男人可以自己做呀,嘿嘿!我这是抬杠了

现在觉得B对,同意

当然主要还是在于对这句话的理解:were impatient with the remaining restrictions on their right to clothe women.我觉得这句话的意思是:对于仍然限制她们只许做女人的衣服表示不耐烦。


作者: crazyep    时间: 2004-9-17 17:18

16)

The primary purpose of the passage is to

              

  1. outline a scholarly debate over the impact of the Parisian seamstresses’ guild
  2. summarize sources of conflict between the newly created Parisian seamstresses’ guild and the tailors’ guild

  3. describe opposing views concerning the origins of the Parisian seamstresses’ guild

  4. explore the underlying reasons for establishing an exclusively female guild in seventeenth-century Paris

  5. correct a misconception about changes in seamstresses’ economic status that took place in Paris in the late seventeenth century

16题大家都没什么疑问么? 为什么选B?newly created 明显是错的呀。

我选的的是D。“underlying reasons”  is same with “scource and confilcts”


作者: horsefish    时间: 2004-9-23 10:31

17我选B,

A 中的sell文章里没提过, 只说不能做某类的, 没说不能卖


作者: sofarsgood    时间: 2004-9-23 11:15


A 中的sell文章里没提过, 只说不能做某类的, 没说不能卖


seamstresses, meanwhile, were remaining restrictions on their right to clothe women.


我觉得这里clothe 把make和sell都包括了。mm你看呢?


作者: horsefish    时间: 2004-9-23 11:41
以下是引用sofarsgood在2004-9-23 11:15:00的发言:


A 中的sell文章里没提过, 只说不能做某类的, 没说不能卖


seamstresses, meanwhile, were remaining restrictions on their right to clothe women.


我觉得这里clothe 把make和sell都包括了。mm你看呢?



还是认为是做衣服不是卖衣服:cloth:做动词是提供衣服, 做衣服, 不是卖衣服.
作者: leeon    时间: 2004-9-23 12:41

17题,想了半天,还是同意A。

B中的最主要错误是tailors这个放大了范围。clothe women应该包含了make和sell了。那个时候应该还不像现在这样有那么多专卖店、商场,那时候买衣服应该是去找裁缝来作的。


作者: comeby_j2004    时间: 2004-9-26 22:38
以下是引用醋醋妹妹在2004-7-13 3:00:00的发言:

be restricted on --- 对...有限制


be restricted to --- 仅限制于做...


were impatient with the remaining restrictions on their right to clothe women是指对做妇女的衣服有限制(你能做女人的衣服, 但不是所有的, 比如说宫廷贵妇的衣服你就不能做)


文中的impatient与问题中的dissatification对应, 偶选A.


court women比例少不少, 与答题不相关且文中未提到.


我觉得要是理解成对做妇女的衣服有限制的话,那是不是应该用 the remaining restrictions on their right in clothing women, 而不是to, 既然用to, 可能还是不满意不能为男人做衣服吧。


作者: tiantian    时间: 2004-10-12 10:25

我也不明白16的B,我选A, 当然debate好象也不对。可是B中的the newly creat实在是离谱的说。

The primary purpose of the passage is to

              

  1. outline a scholarly debate over the impact of the Parisian seamstresses’ guild
  2. summarize sources of conflict between the newly created Parisian seamstresses’ guild and the tailors’ guild
  3. describe opposing views concerning the origins of the Parisian seamstresses’ guild

  4. explore the underlying reasons for establishing an exclusively female guild in seventeenth-century Paris

  5. correct a misconception about changes in seamstresses’ economic status that took place in Paris in the late seventeenth century

作者: tulipmontreal    时间: 2004-10-12 11:17

17 A

19 B


作者: Maggieyin    时间: 2004-10-12 23:05

I agree to choose : B A D A.


for q16, because i did not find debate in a, or opposing view in C, or reason in D or misconception in E, , B is the best.


for Q17,  there is only one mentioned fact responsile for the unsatisfaction, please look up: "Guild members could make and sell womens's and children's clothing, but were prohibited from producing men's clothing or dresses for court women.", " seamstresses, meanwhile, were impatient with the remainming restrictions on their rights to cloth women". I think answer A is the best.


for Q18,  "At the conflict’s center was the issue of whether tailors’ female relatives should be identified as family members protected by the tailors’ guild or as individuals under the jurisdiction of the seamstress' guild". I think the group of relative is very special and different from both individual seamstresses and tailors. then I choose D.


for Q19,  according the content " The seamstresses, however, vies guild membership as a mark of independence from the patriarchal family. Their guild was composed not of family units but of individual women who enjoyed unusual legal and economic privileges". I think  "unusal legal and economic privileges"  is most consistent with what was mentioned in answer A.





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作者: mikeleven    时间: 2004-10-19 21:36
以下是引用caterpillar在2004-8-17 0:45:00的发言:
得选B更好,当然主要还是在于对这句话的理解:were impatient with the remaining restrictions on their right to clothe women.我觉得这句话的意思是:对于仍然限制她们只许做女人的衣服表示不耐烦。

我认为这句话不是这样解的,to clothe women应该修饰their right,remaining修饰restrictions,所以应该是 在their right to clothe women方面有remaining restrictions。

如果是caterpillar的解法,不符合restriction on的英文表达方式,可能要用restriction to N-->to 为介系词。
还有逻辑问题,因为这些女裁缝的客户可以是children+非court women,所以用caterpillar的解法(只许做女人的衣服)不够周延,因为漏掉了小孩的衣服。

从另一个角度去思考:(大家参考看看,这点扯比较远)

1.15行-->impatient with
2.39行-->view guild membership "as a mark of independence from the patriachal family"
表示女裁缝对guild的态度是正负皆有的
加以考量时空背景,个人认为女裁缝不可能对于"不准做男人的衣服"感到不满,反而应该觉得理所当然!(揣摩一下当时的妇女心态,不但不太可能有individualist feminism的观点,甚至连relational feminism都还没出现!!参考OG.p360关于女权的那篇);如果对这个限制都感到不满,他们对guild的态度就不至于有39行的说法了,在文章其他地方也找不到正面的支持了

同意A
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作者: bose0008    时间: 2004-11-8 11:33

加以考量时空背景,个人认为女裁缝不可能对于"不准做男人的衣服"感到不满,反而应该觉得理所当然!(揣摩一下当时的妇女心态,不但不太可能有individualist feminism的观点,甚至连relational feminism都还没出现!!参考OG.p360关于女权的那篇);如果对这个限制都感到不满,他们对guild的态度就不至于有39行的说法了,在文章其他地方也找不到正面的支持了

GOOD POINT


作者: apple01    时间: 2004-11-16 02:02

Why is the answer for 18 is D? I donot see anything wrong with E.


作者: JerryGuan    时间: 2004-12-2 00:31

Q18:

It can be inferred from the passage that which of the following was true of seamstresses employed by relatives who were members of the tailors’ guild?

              

  1. They were instrumental in convincing Louis XIV to establish the seamstresses’ guild.
  2. They were rarely allowed to assist master tailors in the production of men’s clothing.
  3. They were considered by some tailors to be a threat to the tailors’ monopoly.
  4. They did not enjoy the same economic and legal privileges that members of the seamstresses’ guild enjoyed.

  5. They felt their status as working women gave them a certain degree of independence from the patriarchal family.

E错在working women上。


作者: JerryGuan    时间: 2004-12-2 00:41

下面这句话是什么意思哈:

A 1675  police report indicated that

       since so many seamstresses

were already working illegally,

the tailors were unlikely to

(25)      suffer additional economic

damage because of the

seamstresses’ incorporation.


作者: 似水年华    时间: 2004-12-8 16:11
同意tulipmon tree, 17A, 19B
作者: cocoabean    时间: 2005-1-20 01:46
以下是引用Maggieyin在2004-10-12 23:05:00的发言:

I agree to choose : B A D A.


for q16, because i did not find debate in a, or opposing view in C, or reason in D or misconception in E, , B is the best.


for Q17,  there is only one mentioned fact responsile for the unsatisfaction, please look up: "Guild members could make and sell womens's and children's clothing, but were prohibited from producing men's clothing or dresses for court women.", " seamstresses, meanwhile, were impatient with the remainming restrictions on their rights to cloth women". I think answer A is the best.


for Q18,  "At the conflict’s center was the issue of whether tailors’ female relatives should be identified as family members protected by the tailors’ guild or as individuals under the jurisdiction of the seamstress' guild". I think the group of relative is very special and different from both individual seamstresses and tailors. then I choose D.


for Q19,  according the content " The seamstresses, however, vies guild membership as a mark of independence from the patriarchal family. Their guild was composed not of family units but of individual women who enjoyed unusual legal and economic privileges". I think  "unusal legal and economic privileges"  is most consistent with what was mentioned in answer A.






great!


作者: withsmilemm    时间: 2005-2-4 17:08

这两题我也有不同意见,

17 就不说了,谢谢醋MM的精辟解释。

19 还是该选A,我觉得这个答案是从最后一段文章中出来的。最后一段一开始就说了:

The conflict between

the guilds was not purely

(20)   economic,

后面是在举例说明。所以这里问作者的目的,应该从大一点的方向考虑。


作者: zhixi    时间: 2005-2-26 09:02

You are wrong. I think A  is the right answer.


作者: ddmm2002    时间: 2005-2-27 13:18
以下是引用horsefish在2004-9-23 10:31:00的发言:

17我选B,


A 中的sell文章里没提过, 只说不能做某类的, 没说不能卖



想了半天,还是倾向于B,理由与horsefish一样,




  1. seamstresses were not allowed to make and sell clothing for all women,文中并没有说seamstresses were not allowed to sell clothing for all women,只是说but were prohibited from producing  men’s clothing or dresses

    for court women.不知这样理解有何不妥,请指正,谢谢!

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作者: kencheng    时间: 2005-3-2 18:52

Q18:

Itcan be inferred from the passage that which of the following was trueof seamstresses employed by relatives who were members of the tailors’guild?


  1. They were instrumental in convincing Louis XIV to establish the seamstresses’ guild.
  2. They were rarely allowed to assist master tailors in the production of men’s clothing.
  3. They were considered by some tailors to be a threat to the tailors’ monopoly.
  4. They did not enjoy the same economic and legal privileges that members of the seamstresses’ guild enjoyed.
  5. They felt their status as working women gave them a certain degree of independence from the patriarchal family.
答案E。D选项可以理解为超出文章范围,文中没有对有亲戚在裁缝行会的女裁缝与其他女裁缝进行比较。与本题有关的内容在38-45行,其中E项是对下面句子的同意改写: < style="font-family: arial;">The seamstresses, however, viewed guild membership as a mark of independence from the patriarchal family.
25楼的"working women"理由不充分,女裁缝是"women"而且也"working",并无不妥。

作者: tuzq    时间: 2005-3-11 12:36

17. A.

B中continued to就注定了是错的。文章中根本没提以前的状况。

19. B.

A.emphasize that the establishment of the seamstresses’ guild had implications that were not solely economic  

文中17-20: The conflict between the guilds was not purely economic, however. 说的是conflict,又不是制订guild的conflict.


作者: l18david    时间: 2005-3-26 00:12

支持 18. E  ,  19.A

18題問的是seamstresses employed by relatives who were members of the tailor's guild而最後一段強調的是因為有了(類似)獨自的經濟能力,所以藉此提高身價,而在男人主宰的家庭中有了一點點地位。D不選的理由同32樓。

19題,B中tailor's guild 如果改成seamstresses' guild才有可能對。因為,他們怎麼可能會對tailor's guild有conflict呢?


作者: wall_street    时间: 2005-3-26 16:13
with their role as heads of

household, and entitled them

(35)    to employ as seamstresses

female family members who

did not marry outside the trade

谁来解释一下,这话是什么意思?我明白大概的意思,至少是说TAILOR雇佣女裁缝,,,,那个AS什么意思?


作者: autumn_leaves    时间: 2005-4-9 14:44

19同意A,B对比对象是MALE TAILOR和 their female family members ,我觉得要对最少应该是

MALE TAILOR和seamstresse比较,family members是该段最后提到的CONTROVERSIAL POINT.
作者: new_new    时间: 2005-4-13 16:18

我的答案是BADA!


19题不同意选B,这篇文章通篇都在说两个guild的conflict, 从来都没说过男裁缝和他们的女家庭成员的conflict啊


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作者: new_new    时间: 2005-4-13 16:28
以下是引用wall_street在2005-3-26 16:13:00的发言:with their role as heads of



household, and entitled them



(35)    to employ as seamstresses




female family members who




did not marry outside the trade



谁来解释一下,这话是什么意思?我明白大概的意思,至少是说TAILOR雇佣女裁缝,,,,那个AS什么意思?


这句话用正常语序看就很好理解了:

entitled them to employ female family members (who did not marry outside the trade) as seamstresses.

他们被赋予了可以雇佣没有与外行业结婚的女性家庭成员做裁缝的权力。


employ sb as sth


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作者: jing_zz    时间: 2005-4-14 17:57

对18题还是存有疑问 d的选项在文章里好像找不到对应的地方,请高手指点


作者: yazi123    时间: 2005-4-18 11:16

重新看了一遍,赞成18题选E. 题目问的是tailor的亲戚雇佣的女裁缝怎样,而不是问tailor的亲戚怎样


作者: tqbiao    时间: 2005-4-27 17:12
以下是引用withsmilemm在2005-2-4 17:08:00的发言:

这两题我也有不同意见,


17 就不说了,谢谢醋MM的精辟解释。


19 还是该选A,我觉得这个答案是从最后一段文章中出来的。最后一段一开始就说了:


The conflict between



the guilds was not purely



(20)   economic,


后面是在举例说明。所以这里问作者的目的,应该从大一点的方向考虑。


说得好


作者: BiteGmat    时间: 2005-5-3 17:52

19的A B 好像都有问题

A: 文中是“The conflict between the guilds was not purely economic”,A项“the establishment of the seamstresses’ guild had implications that were not solely economic”什么意思,好像不一致嘛

B:“over membership in the tailors’ guild”好像也不对嘛

晕啊!


作者: godiex    时间: 2005-5-15 11:47
以下是引用yazi123在2005-4-18 11:16:00的发言:

重新看了一遍,赞成18题选E. 题目问的是tailor的亲戚雇佣的女裁缝怎样,而不是问tailor的亲戚怎样


请看清题目:seamstresses employed by (relatives who were members of the tailors' guild)

是tailor雇用的亲戚,而不是tailor亲戚雇佣的女裁缝


作者: calla    时间: 2005-5-26 17:29
以下是引用jing_zz在2005-4-14 17:57:00的发言:

对18题还是存有疑问 d的选项在文章里好像找不到对应的地方,请高手指点


同问,文中哪里有对应阿?我只看到说对于“female relatives应受哪个行会保护”存在争议,其他的没说她们怎么样啊


作者: IceOnMe    时间: 2005-5-28 15:15

18题 应该是D 而不是E  理由在于:


18题问的是 那些不属于 女裁缝工会的(或说未加入的), 的情况


而文中出现independence from...的地方只有在这里:


The seamstresses, however,


      viewed guild membership as


(40)     a mark of independence from


the patriarchal family.



可以看出, 是viewed GUILD MEMBERSHIP as .... 而不是E选项中的view their working women status.(status as working women)



而D 的对应在紧接着上面的


Their


guild was composed not of


family units but of individual


women who enjoyed unusual


(45)      legal and economic privileges.



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作者: IceOnMe    时间: 2005-5-28 15:46

对于17题,我认为是A


首先,


be restricted to do A  是某人被限制只能做A


restriction on A = 做A的限制       金山的例句:


The restrictions on the use of the playground are:no fighting, no damaging property.
使用这场地的条件是:不准打架, 不准损坏设施。


意义完全不一样


接着分析一下文中句子


meanwhile, were impatient with the remaining restrictions on their right to clothe women.


重新分析一下这句. 我的理解是 "女裁缝们对给妇女做衣服这个权利上残余的限制感到impatient." 也就是说女裁缝们被给予了权利,(冲破了一定的限制)但这个权利中依然有限制


显然,这个restriction是被限定在为妇女做衣服的权利这个范围之内了,


那什么是remaining restriction呢, 显然就是不能为court women做衣服(即非所有的妇女)



如果要把剩余的限制解释为 不能为男人做衣服,


相当于把这句话:


The restrictions on the use of the playground are:no fighting, no damaging property.
使用这场地的条件是:不准打架, 不准损坏设施。


理解成 限制使用该场地


所以我认为要表达对"不能做男人衣服的不满"这个意思,则文中应该出现类似的句子:


they were impatient with the restriction to their right to (only) clothe women.


they were impatient that they were still be restricted to clothe women.



所以17不应该是B


作者: 而今迈步从头越    时间: 2005-5-28 18:53
以下是引用IceOnMe在2005-5-28 15:46:00的发言:

对于17题,我认为是A


首先,


be restricted to do A  是某人被限制只能做A


restriction on A = 做A的限制       金山的例句:


The restrictions on the use of the playground are:no fighting, no damaging property.
使用这场地的条件是:不准打架, 不准损坏设施。


意义完全不一样


接着分析一下文中句子


meanwhile, were impatient with the remaining restrictions on their right to clothe women.


重新分析一下这句. 我的理解是 "女裁缝们对给妇女做衣服这个权利上残余的限制感到impatient." 也就是说女裁缝们被给予了权利,(冲破了一定的限制)但这个权利中依然有限制


显然,这个restriction是被限定在为妇女做衣服的权利这个范围之内了,


那什么是remaining restriction呢, 显然就是不能为court women做衣服(即非所有的妇女)


如果要把剩余的限制解释为 不能为男人做衣服,


相当于把这句话:


The restrictions on the use of the playground are:no fighting, no damaging property.
使用这场地的条件是:不准打架, 不准损坏设施。


理解成 限制使用该场地


所以我认为要表达对"不能做男人衣服的不满"这个意思,则文中应该出现类似的句子:


they were impatient with the restriction to their right to (only) clothe women.


they were impatient that they were still be restricted to clothe women.


所以17不应该是B


agree.


作者: luxing    时间: 2005-6-9 11:32
B A E A
作者: actu    时间: 2005-6-13 20:11

18題:D


藍色這段表明:做為seamsress guild的成員,是具有經濟上的獨立性


The seamstresses, however,


       viewed guild membership as


(40)       a mark of independence from


the patriarchal family.  Their


guild was composed not of


family units but of individual


women who enjoyed unusual


(45)        legal and economic privileges.



綠的這段表明:衝突的來源在於talor's female是否是具有獨立性的個體(從而享有經濟的獨立地位)屬於seamstress guild,還是附屬於tailor的guild。


       At the conflict’s center was


the issue of whether tailors’


female relatives should be


identified as family members


(50)        protected by the tailors’ guild


or as individuals under the


jurisdiction of the seam-


stresses’ guild.



兩相對照就知道,一定是seamstress employed by relatives who were member of the tailor's guild缺乏像seamstress guild member那樣的獨立性,不然就不會有衝突了。答案D。


作者: forjoke    时间: 2005-6-20 15:00
19应该是A

B:illustrate the conflict ... over membership in
the tailors’ guild,对conflict的定义是错的,女裁缝怎么会去参加男裁缝guild呢?

而且conflict是guilds之间的冲突,而不是某个guild内部membership的冲突。

第2段开头说了

The conflict between

the guilds was not purely  economic,这已经暗示了女guild的成立有其他的目的,40-41行正好解释了这一点。
作者: yukon    时间: 2005-6-28 10:33

Guild members could make


and sell women’s and chil-


dren’s clothing, but were


prohibited from producing


           men’s clothing or dresses


           for court women.


文中只说不许买 men’s clothing or dresses给court women,没说不许卖衣服给court women啊! 其它类型的衣服照样可以卖给court women


我觉得17题的A不对


作者: remona9t    时间: 2005-6-30 15:18
2楼解释得很精彩!明白了!~
作者: xinfaxian    时间: 2005-7-9 20:48
以下是引用IceOnMe在2005-5-28 15:46:00的发言:

对于17题,我认为是A


首先,


be restricted to do A  是某人被限制只能做A


restriction on A = 做A的限制       金山的例句:


The restrictions on the use of the playground are:no fighting, no damaging property.
使用这场地的条件是:不准打架, 不准损坏设施。


意义完全不一样


接着分析一下文中句子


meanwhile, were impatient with the remaining restrictions on their right to clothe women.


重新分析一下这句. 我的理解是 "女裁缝们对给妇女做衣服这个权利上残余的限制感到impatient." 也就是说女裁缝们被给予了权利,(冲破了一定的限制)但这个权利中依然有限制


显然,这个restriction是被限定在为妇女做衣服的权利这个范围之内了,


那什么是remaining restriction呢, 显然就是不能为court women做衣服(即非所有的妇女)


如果要把剩余的限制解释为 不能为男人做衣服,


相当于把这句话:


The restrictions on the use of the playground are:no fighting, no damaging property.
使用这场地的条件是:不准打架, 不准损坏设施。


理解成 限制使用该场地


所以我认为要表达对"不能做男人衣服的不满"这个意思,则文中应该出现类似的句子:


they were impatient with the restriction to their right to (only) clothe women.


they were impatient that they were still be restricted to clothe women.


所以17不应该是B



精彩!
作者: wwwhahchn    时间: 2005-9-5 19:22

同意BADA


这篇的生词把我害惨了,感觉很影响理解,错了2个


作者: PKGMAT    时间: 2005-10-2 17:16
17题一不小心就看成了是女裁缝不满意把其限制在只能作妇女的衣服上。其实原文是讲妇裁缝不满意对其作妇女的衣服都仍有限制。不过前文已经交待了这点,只是现场作题一急就忘了。看来还是逻辑语感建立得不够强,很容易就掉进了ETS的陷井中。
作者: dreamerps    时间: 2005-10-12 16:17
19T的题干中有个词是primarily,那么B中的conflict最根本上是为了说明什么?不就是为了说明A中的were not solely economic吗?也就是二段一句,这是全文的TS啊,对应16T主题题看正确选想B:summarize sources of conflict between...,所以从primarily的角度出发19T应该选A,B是为了说明A,我一看到primarily就引起重视了,这是我的理解,欢迎指教~~
作者: nyc_cfa    时间: 2005-10-13 09:21

T-4-10:GWD-13-18:


It can be inferred from the passage that which of the following was true of seamstresses employed by relatives who were members of the tailors’ guild?


              



  1. They were instrumental in convincing Louis XIV to establish the seamstresses’ guild.


  2. They were rarely allowed to assist master tailors in the production of men’s clothing.


  3. They were considered by some tailors to be a threat to the tailors’ monopoly.


  4. They did not enjoy the same economic and legal privileges that members of the seamstresses’ guild enjoyed.


  5. They felt their status as working women gave them a certain degree of independence from the patriarchal family.

应该是E. 文中没有提到D.


作者: Febby1984    时间: 2005-12-6 00:02

我觉得18T中的那个THEY FELT很诡异,文章就没有说到那些被TAILOR雇佣的女性的感受啊~


19T,我怎么觉得A.B都不对啊~首先A里面的establishment of the seamstresses' guild had implication...就不对~并不是行会的建立暗示了什么;


但是B里面的conflict over membership in tailors' guild肯定错,文中说的是conflict over memvership in guild's, 这里的GUILD应该是包含tailors' and seamstresses'



keys~~


作者: amy9301    时间: 2005-12-12 23:39

作者: tangela    时间: 2005-12-13 15:21

对于我这类没什么逻辑只凭直觉的文科生,是如此弱滴解释17题地:


对于B选项:女裁缝不是不满男裁缝可以做男人衣服,而是不满自己不能做男人衣服(要注意这2点是不一样的哦)



哈哈...非常弱的解释,不过自我感觉应该是这样吧...



看了NN们的解释真是觉得严谨才是硬道理~



以上


作者: vironica_ee    时间: 2006-4-15 06:00

17 A


A is "not allowed to ... for all women"


has 3 key words in original reading materials


   not all woman= not" court woman", not allow= "remaining restrictions", make and sell="clothe" women


作者: 二狼神    时间: 2006-5-28 19:28

这篇RC的参考答案问题比较多.我做的是ABDA,看了前面的讨论觉得这个选择是对的,供讨论.

另外想说一点:原文其实说了有两个guild,之前一个男的,后来一个女的,但放在全文最后一句才直接说出来,这点明白了对后面两题的理解有帮助.


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作者: trymeagain    时间: 2006-6-11 21:20

给 court women 做衣服要收钱吗?是属于 sell吗?


作者: vanessav    时间: 2006-6-21 23:21

19题我选了A,

Q19:

The author mentions the seamstresses’ view of guild membership as a “mark of independence from the patriarchal family” (lines 40-41) primarily in order to

 

  1. emphasize that the establishment of the seamstresses’ guild had implications that were not solely economic

  2. illustrate the conflict that existed between tailors and their female family members over membership in the tailors’ guild  conflict不是over  membership in the tailors’ guild。女裁缝们根本就不可能加入男裁缝协会吧?要加入,她们也是加入女裁缝行会(seamstress guild,他们争论的焦点很清楚,就在文章最后一句)。
  3. imply that the establishment of the seamstresses’ guild ushered in a period of increased economic and social freedom for women in France
  4. provide an explanation for the dramatic increase in the number of women working as seamstresses after 1675
  5. indicate that members of the seamstresses’ guild were financially more successful than were tailors’ female relatives protected by the tailors’ guild

Answer: A


作者: shouyang12    时间: 2006-8-21 01:03
BADB
作者: zyzcdcdcd    时间: 2006-10-4 14:45

BADB

agree


作者: zyzcdcdcd    时间: 2006-10-4 14:59

BAEB


作者: zyzcdcdcd    时间: 2006-10-4 15:04

我认为文中的tailor雇佣的女裁缝就是女裁缝行会的啊~~~ 一共只有2波人啊


作者: zyzcdcdcd    时间: 2006-10-4 15:12

19题怎么会是A的?

注意19题在讲establishment of the guild  而文中讨论的是 conflict


作者: 足球幽灵    时间: 2006-10-6 10:31
支持BBDB
作者: ll_422    时间: 2006-10-7 23:15

BAEA,key 太混乱了.

文章意思似乎没有理解透, TAILOR指?? SEAMSTRESSES指??望NN指点...


作者: 想桐桐的蝎子    时间: 2006-10-10 18:10

看了解释,错了两个,同意大N们的BADA,自愧不如啊

TAILOR指男裁 SEAMSTRESSES指女裁,但是有一点很重要,没理解好导致我错了两个,就是男裁中还请了一部分没参加女裁协会的女人,他们是不那么追求独立的


作者: apoab    时间: 2007-4-3 18:12

我的答案是BADB

16B没有疑义

 

17 A seamstresses were not allowed to make and sell clothing for all women

原文:seamstresses, meanwhile, (15)      were impatient with the remaining restrictions on their right to clothe women.Longman上查到:clotheto provide clothes for yourself or other people,所以clothe不光代表make clothing,也可以包括sell clothing。解决这一点就不需考虑较间接的答案B了。

 

18 原文:To the tailors, their status as guild members overlapped with their role as heads of household, and entitled them (35) to employ as seamstresses female family members who did not marry outside the trade. The seamstresses, however, viewed guild membership as (40) a mark of independence from the patriarchal family.

试着翻译和解释:对裁缝师而言,他们身为裁缝工会的成员和身为一家之主的身份上是有重迭的,(怎么说呢,因为)身为一家之主,给了他们一种权力,让他们能够雇用未婚的女性家庭成员来作为the seamstresses,然而the seamstresses却把工会的资格当成是一种从父权家庭独立出来的一种象征。

这里employ翻雇用倒不如说是命令她们作义工,因为outside the trade表示身为一家之主的要这些女生作衣服事实上是不给酬劳的,由此可知在这个时代,一家之主的地位是很高的,也就是只要在这个时代的家庭,要做衣服,通常是请家里的女生,例如妈妈、阿姨或是女儿来做,就算她做了几十年,手艺再怎么高,也不会有人付她钱,所以我想当时的人应该都把会作衣服的女人当做seamstresses,而会做衣服的男人是tailortailor算是职业而seamstresses不算。可是自从seamstresses工会成立之后,开始有了改变,拥有了工会资格的seamstresses开始自觉到自己已经不必再是家庭附属品了。所以,对于新一代拥有工会资格的seamstresses来看,那些原本传统的只是由家庭的亲戚来担任的seamstress,也就是本题要问的seamstresses employed by relatives who were members of tailors’ guild,他们(传统的seamstresses)就无法享受到拥有工会资格的seamstress同样的经济和法律上的优势了,也就是D所说的They did not enjoy the same economic and legal privileges that members of the seamstresses’ guild enjoyed. 因此选DE指的是新一代的工会资格的seamstress而不是由relatives担任的seamstress因此不能选。

 

19定位从L40一直到最后一行,尤其是最后一句话:At the conflict’s center was

the issue of whether tailors’ female relatives should be identified as family members (50) protected by the tailors’ guild or as individuals under the jurisdiction of the seam stresses’ guild.,这句是倒装句:会产生纠纷最主要就是在于那些本来在男tailor家的女seamstresses到底应该是属于tailor工会还是属于seamstresses的工会,男tailor会说,她是我家的亲戚应该属于tailor工会,而女seamstresses会想去seamstresses的工会因为如此才能享受更好的权力,这就是B的意思。A是指在初期seamstresses的工会的创立所造成的影响不光只在经济上的。没错,但我觉得范围太宽了。而且如果选A,那为何不选C,我觉得C的意思跟A是相同的。

 

唉,明天就要考AT了,结果还写得那么长~~~好紧张喔~谁来给我加油一下


作者: 芷萱85    时间: 2007-5-6 11:55
BADA
作者: lewton    时间: 2007-5-20 22:36

男裁缝雇佣了女性亲戚后,她们自然成了女裁缝行会的会员(因为她们是女的,又是裁缝).而她们又是男裁缝的雇员,所以也属于tailor行会.她们将会员视为独立于家庭的标志,女裁缝不含家庭单元,而是独立享有特权的女性.争论核心:这些亲戚属于哪个行会:男裁缝认为属于他们的行会,女亲戚自己视自己为女裁缝行会的成员(因为这是独立的标志).于是有了B

A的行会建立含义(the establishment of ....had implication)文中并没有讨论


作者: lloottuuss    时间: 2007-7-16 16:14
这篇文章四题有三题热烈争议中……
作者: riverquiet    时间: 2007-9-27 09:30

鼎鼎


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作者: riverquiet    时间: 2007-9-27 10:00
以下是引用forjoke在2005-6-20 15:00:00的发言:
19应该是A

B:illustrate the conflict ... over membership in
the tailors’ guild,对conflict的定义是错的,女裁缝怎么会去参加男裁缝guild呢?

而且conflict是guilds之间的冲突,而不是某个guild内部membership的冲突。

第2段开头说了

The conflict between

the guilds was not purely  economic,这已经暗示了女guild的成立有其他的目的,40-41行正好解释了这一点。


作者: sch    时间: 2007-12-26 06:28
73楼的你关于19题,有太多自己假设的东西在里面了.
比如tailor之家的女成员和tailor家长之间的由于行会归属产生矛盾 等等,都是原文没有提到的内容.

就看2点:
1,
B选项说什么? conflict existed between tailors 和他们的女性家庭成员之间.
完全对不上.文章中的conflict双方是谁????????
是tailors行会和女缝纫工行会之间的conflicts,单评这点,这个选项就是"混"选项,把比较的因素都搞混了.


2,在看最后
一句所谓定位: At the conflicts center was the issue......   
我还是问一句,这个conflict 是谁和谁之间的???? 不错!是第二段开头交代的,
2个行会之间的冲突!而不是什么男裁缝家长和其女性成员之间的矛盾.


所以选项B中所描写的矛盾情形,都是杜撰的.没有原文支持的.谁说tailors家里的家长"会因为女性成员参加seamstress行会就会有矛盾??"
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作者: tangoxu    时间: 2008-3-3 00:35

My answer:
B A D A

My point of view:
16/ B

17/
According to the passage, one source of dissatisfaction for Parisian seamstresses after the establishment of the seamstresses’ guild was that

A. seamstresses were not allowed to make and sell clothing for all women
B. tailors continued to have the exclusive legal right to clothe men
C. seamstresses who were relatives of tailors were prevented from becoming members of the seamstresses’ guild
D. rivalry between individual seamstresses increased, thus hindering their ability to compete with the tailors for business
E. seamstresses were not allowed to accept male tailors as members of the guild

A

"seamstresses, meanwhile, were impatient with the remaining restrictions on their right to clothe women."
从修饰关系看,to clothe women是修饰right的,因此是“对在为妇女制衣上尚存的限制表示不满”,前面有nn已经做过分析;
此外,补充一点:结合前文对该行会的限制(were prohibited from producing men’s clothing or dresses for court women)和这里的remaining看,这个理解是准确的。

18/

It can be inferred from the passage that which of the following was true of seamstresses employed by relatives who were members of the tailors’ guild?

A. They were instrumental in convincing Louis XIV to establish the seamstresses’ guild.
B. They were rarely allowed to assist master tailors in the production of men’s clothing.
C. They were considered by some tailors to be a threat to the tailors’ monopoly.
D. They did not enjoy the same economic and legal privileges that members of the seamstresses’ guild enjoyed.
E. They felt their status as working women gave them a certain degree of independence from the patriarchal family.

D

题干:It can be inferred from the passage that which of the following was true of seamstresses employed by relatives who were members of the tailors’ guild?
说明涉及的对象是“seamstresses employed by relatives who were members of the tailors’ guild”,也就是说是普通的seamstresses
题干同时说infer,文中应该没有直接涉及——文中确实没有直接提到普通seamstresses的状况;而通过加入guild的seamstresses的变化(The seamstresses, however, viewed guild membership as a mark of independence from the patriarchal family.  & ... enjoyed unusual legal and economic privileges)可以infer出普通普通seamstresses的状况,即选项D:
They did not enjoy the same economic and legal privileges that members of the seamstresses’ guild enjoyed.
这里的争论焦点就是:是不是所有的seamstresses都是属于seamstresses guild的,我认为不是,因为:
Their guild was composed not of family units but of individual women who enjoyed unusual legal and economic privileges.
注意这里的women who ... 是限制定语。

19/
The author mentions the seamstresses’ view of guild membership as a “mark of independence from the patriarchal family” (lines 40-41) primarily in order to

A. emphasize that the establishment of the seamstresses’ guild had implications that were not solely economic
B. illustrate the conflict that existed between tailors and their female family members over membership in the tailors’ guild
C. imply that the establishment of the seamstresses’ guild ushered in a period of increased economic and social freedom for women in France
D. provide an explanation for the dramatic increase in the number of women working as seamstresses after 1675
E. indicate that members of the seamstresses’ guild were financially more successful than were tailors’ female relatives protected by the tailors’ guild

A

二段的中心在其首句:The conflict between the guilds was not purely economic, however.
二段后面事实都是对该句的展开从而例证。
另外,对于争议颇多的B(illustrate the conflict that existed between tailors and their female family members over membership in the tailors’ guild):
仔细看句子,说的是“tailors和他们女性家庭成员之间关于membership in the tailors’ guild的冲突”,文中没有涉及。

大家讨论~



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作者: nuwei    时间: 2008-4-20 22:01
17选B吧:remaining//continue ...
作者: 小胡子乖乖    时间: 2008-9-12 21:49
难题啊,我也错了两道。过两天重新读文章会审的时候,仍然错了一道。唉。
作者: buffonjuventus    时间: 2010-10-17 12:49
小弟弟我觉得:
In 1675, Louis XIV establishedthe Parisian seamstresses’ guild, the first independent all-female guild createdin over 200 years. Guild members could make and sell women’s and children’sclothing, but were prohibited from producing men’s clothing or dresses forcourt women. Tailors resented the ascension of seamstresses to guild status; seamstresses,meanwhile, were impatient with the remaining restrictions on their right toclothe women.
第一段文章开头就开始介绍这个女裁缝的guild,说它是第一个独立的全女性的guild。第二句紧接着说这个guild member如何如何,显然是承接上句的seamstresses‘s guild说的啊。然后说女裁缝还是不允许做男人的衣服和宫廷女人的衣服。然后继续说,男裁缝对于guild的地位不满,同时,女裁缝对于这个guild的限制也impatient,这个impatient主要体现在对于制作女人衣服的限制上,这里的女人衣服,尤其指上句提到的对宫廷女人。

所以17
Accordingto the passage, one source of dissatisfaction for Parisian seamstresses afterthe establishment of the seamstresses’ guild was that




A.    seamstresseswere not allowed to make and sell clothing for all women



B.      tailorscontinued to have the exclusive legal right to clothe men



C.    seamstresseswho were relatives of tailors were prevented from becoming members of the seamstresses’guild



D.    rivalrybetween individual seamstresses increased, thus hindering their ability tocompete with the tailors for business



E.      seamstresseswere not allowed to accept male tailors as members of the guild



选A没什么问题吧,题目问,巴黎女裁缝的不满的根源之一,就是不能做全部女人的衣服啊。B选项,文章尽管提到女裁缝不能做男人衣服,可是没有提是不是男裁缝就有排他的绝对的权力做男人的衣服。不sufficient。而且也没提女裁缝对这点不满……


小弟弟我再觉得:
第二段的后半段。
To the tailors, theirstatus as guild members overlapped with their role as heads of household, andentitled them to employ as seamstresses female family members who did not marryoutside the trade. 对于男裁缝,他们作为guild成员的地位和他们作为家长的地位重叠,(这样特殊的地位)使得他们有资格来雇用没有嫁到外面的女性家庭成员来成为(为自己工作的)女裁缝。
The seamstresses, however, viewed guild membership asa mark of independence from thepatriarchal family. Their guildwas composed not of family units but of individual women who enjoyed unusual legaland economic privileges. 这个第二句,尤为重要。特别重要……。这句话的理解关乎到18题的答案。(the为特制)这些女裁缝呢,却把guild的会员资格看成是从patriarchal家庭独立出来的标志。然后,她们的guild不是有家庭的units(这个units我也不知道具体应该怎么翻译,但是不影响理解)组成的,而是,由享有非同寻常的法律和经济特权的独立女性组成。
At the conflict’s center was the issue of whethertailors’ female relatives should be identified as family members protected bythe tailors’ guild or as individuals under the jurisdiction of the seamstresses’guild.最后说,矛盾中心是这样的女裁缝究竟under taylor的guild还是under女裁缝的guild。


18题:
Itcan be inferred from the passage that which of the following was true ofseamstresses employed by relatives who were members of the tailors’ guild?



A.    Theywere instrumental in convincing Louis XIV to establish the seamstresses’ guild.



B.      Theywere rarely allowed to assist master tailors in the production of men’sclothing.



C.    Theywere considered by some tailors to be a threat to the tailors’ monopoly.



D.    Theydid not enjoy the same economic and legal privileges that members of theseamstresses’ guild enjoyed.



D对是因为,一旦关系特殊的这部分女裁缝被划为tailor guild之下的话,她们就享受不到女裁缝guild下的独立女性的非同寻常的法律和经济特权了。我上面quote的那段话的中间部分体现的出来这个。



E.      Theyfelt their status as working women gave them a certain degree of independencefrom the patriarchal family.



E错是因为,这部分女裁缝,无论被划到哪个guild之下,她们作为working women的性质没有变,如果只是因为他们是working women她们就认为自己独立了的话,她们就不会对于划为哪个guild之下那么看重了。可是从原文我们得出,她们是view女裁缝guild的membership,才是独立的标志。因此才有了矛盾中心这一说。







希望我这么一提示,大家就都理解了。



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