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标题: 求助，OG上The gyrfalcon这道题中with的用法 [打印本页]

作者: ymcheswin 时间: 2011-8-1 23:38
标题: 求助，OG上The gyrfalcon这道题中with的用法

70. Thegyrfalcon, an Arctic bird of prey, has survived a close brush with extinction; its numbers are now five times greater than when the use of DDT was sharply restricted in the early 1970s.

(A) extinction; its numbers are now five times greater than

(B) extinction; its numbers are now five times more than

(D) extinction, now with fivefold the numbers they had

(E) extinction, now with numbers five times greater than

我想问一下，E为什么不对？
看了很多帖子，还是不是很明白，求牛人指点

作者: dzxu 时间: 2011-8-2 00:40
OG上有这题？

答案是不是A啊？

作者: 豆菲 时间: 2011-8-2 10:45
OG解释说now with numbers five times greater than

可能修饰extinction

作者: Mrfish 时间: 2011-8-2 10:51
with... 不是一般都修饰句子主语么, 为什么这里又变成修饰extinction了呢?

作者: ymcheswin 时间: 2011-8-2 11:37
是选A

作者: ymcheswin 时间: 2011-8-2 11:38
可是修饰extinction在逻辑上没有任何意义啊，extinction‘s numbers？？

作者: deityc 时间: 2011-10-4 21:21
顶同样不明白

作者: 白菜白菜 时间: 2012-4-2 11:05

70. Thegyrfalcon, an Arctic bird of prey, has survived a close brush with extinction; its numbers are now five times greater than when the use of DDT was sharply restricted in the early 1970s.

(A) extinction; its numbers are now five times greater than

(B) extinction; its numbers are now five times more than

(D) extinction, now with fivefold the numbers they had

(E) extinction, now with numbers five times greater than

我想问一下，E为什么不对？
看了很多帖子，还是不是很明白，求牛人指点

-- by 会员 ymcheswin (2011/8/1 23:38:17)

不明白 A的its不会有歧义吗

作者: tyd727 时间: 2014-5-12 19:25
同问这个with，prep语法笔记说with错误修饰主语，为什么错误？不就是gyrfalcon的numbers吗？刚好啊.... with好像是可以修饰主语的啊？E项到底是什么错了，greater than对比双方不平行吗？大家帮帮忙啊~~~~~

作者: clairewm 时间: 2014-12-8 23:24
为毛这道题还是没有人解答

作者: 红旗下的色盲 时间: 2015-5-14 19:41
https://www.manhattanprep.com/gmat/forums/the-gyrfalcon-an-arctic-bird-of-prey-has-survived-a-close-t1926-30.html 第三页有解释

作者: wheresboss 时间: 2015-9-16 23:12
看AE区别 A 是两句独立的话第一句强调幸存第二句强调幸存之后的数量重点不同但意思紧密联系 E是逗号后变做修饰成分句子结构被完全改变这里其实考察的就是分号和分号后的主语可以是主句主语并且代词使用要准确这个语法点
with作状语修饰的表伴随动作修饰逻辑主语此处应该是主句主语G 所以你的理解应该是正确的 OG 语文分册说的会产生修饰歧义站不住脚

作者: vi.len 时间: 2016-8-4 10:46

wheresboss 发表于 2015-9-16 23:12
看AE区别 A 是两句独立的话第一句强调幸存第二句强调幸存之后的数量重点不同但意思紧密联系 E是逗号后 ...

对啊，所以到底用with修饰主语，有什么问题吗

作者: meiyw 时间: 2016-11-15 23:24

vi.len 发表于 2016-8-4 10:46
对啊，所以到底用with修饰主语，有什么问题吗

f you're going to use "now" + some phrase as a modifier, then "now" must accurately modify the action and timeframe of the preceding clause.
e.g.
James is expanding the scope of his job search, now looking in Malaysia and Thailand as well as in Singapore
--> this sentence is correct, because "now looking in..." actually modifies (describes) the way in which james "is expanding his search".

here, now with numbers five times greater than does NOT modify the idea of "surviving a close brush with extinction"; instead, it is a much later situation, far removed from (and in considerable contrast to) the near-extinction. therefore, a modifier is inappropriate here; a separate clause, written in a different tense (as in the correct answer), is a better solution.

综上，根据曼哈顿的解释，now开头的modifier要和主句的time frame一致，但是E不是，5倍了肯定远在几乎灭绝的状况之后。。希望对你有帮助。

作者: jessica豆豆冰 时间: 2017-8-28 16:42
同问这道题目，我也选的E；除了楼上提出的困惑，我还有另一个问题，
" its numbers are now five times greater thant when the use of DDT was sharply restricted in the early 1970's " 这个when 之前不需要加什么代词比如those 吗？ number 可以这样直接与 when.... 比较吗？
求大神们赐教！！！

作者: 曹元成 时间: 2018-8-14 23:21

红旗下的色盲发表于 2015-5-14 19:41
https://www.manhattanprep.com/gmat/forums/the-gyrfalcon-an-arctic-bird-of-prey-has-survived-a-close- ...

非常感谢！

作者: joii 时间: 2018-8-23 19:17
ron说comma with一般修饰前面整个句子，adv modifier
从语义上看，后面那部分的信息明显很重要，如果用with的话，就成额外信息，不对

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