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作者: xx2004    时间: 2004-7-3 07:19
标题: [求助]885 SecE-23

[求助]885 SecE-23
A new phenomena, which is visible at Managua’s major intersections, are waves of vendors and beggars, which include many children and mob cars at the stoplights.

(A) A new phenomena, which is visible at Managua’s major intersections, are waves of vendors and beggars, which include many children and
(B) Visible at Managua’s major intersections are waves of vendors and beggars with many children, new phenomena that
(C) A new phenomenon visible at Managua’s major intersections is waves of vendors and beggars, many of them children, who
(D) Phenomenally new waves of vendors, beggars, and many children are visible at Managua’s major intersections, which
(E) A wave of vendors and beggars, many of whom are children, are visible at Managua’s major intersections, where they are a new phenomenon and

Correct answer: C
I know the mistakes in the other choices. but why C is right since " A new phenomenon visible...is waves of.....


Why "is" plus plural "waves".


Thank you!


作者: rt316    时间: 2004-7-3 22:06
is是修饰A new phenomenon的,而且,is后省了宾从的引导词that。
作者: leo1111    时间: 2004-7-3 22:40
标题: 请教
对于这道题,我能清楚的看到是主谓一致的问题,但是对于语法和句子结构,本人都不太清楚。尤其是逻辑意思方面。希望能给我一点指点。
作者: rt316    时间: 2004-7-4 08:56

以A为例:

1-A new phenomena,单个名词;

2-which is visible at Managua's major intersections,定从修饰前置名词phenomena;

3-are waves of vendors and beggars,主句谓宾部分;

4-which include many clildren and mob cars at the stoplights,定从(原文意图)修饰前置名词vendors and beggars;

A的错误在2部分(定从n, + which be + a.一般情况下可以被a. + n.替代【注:除了逻辑或平行结构需要】);3部分主谓一致;4部分which定从的指代不明确,不如C中用同位语+明确定从who好。


作者: qsrlw    时间: 2004-12-9 05:34
---------(C) A new phenomenon visible at Managua’s major intersections is waves of vendors and beggars, many of them children, who           [mob cars at the stoplights]

STONEREN:  "4-which include many clildren and mob cars at the stoplights,定从(原文意图)修饰前置名词vendors and beggars;A的错误在2部分(定从n, + which be + a.一般情况下可以被a. + n.替代【注:除了逻辑或平行结构需要】);3部分主谓一致;4部分which定从的指代不明确,不如C中用同位语+明确定从who好。"

Thank Stoneren for your explanation. But I still do not understand the last part of C. When I put it in the sentence.I am confused by " many of them children,who"   how to connect  [ mob cars at the stoplights.  In meantime, what's the meaning about " many of them children",bty, could u please tell me the relationship between them and children?  Thank you very much


作者: qsrlw    时间: 2004-12-10 09:58
昨天的问题,今天来看,还没有哪位大侠帮忙回答一下, 再次恳求.谢谢,谢谢!
作者: pengh    时间: 2004-12-12 12:22

我认为 "many of them children" 是同位语, 可理解为 "many of them (are) children".  "Them" 指代"vendors and beggars", 后面的 who 也指代 "vendors and beggars".


作者: swlfx    时间: 2004-12-12 20:03
同意楼上的意见,不过觉得WHO应该是指代children
作者: Dennies    时间: 2005-2-6 04:21
children是同位语,但我认为它在该句中也是一句插入语,WHO人修饰vendors and beggars
作者: colacat    时间: 2005-2-6 09:23

who 修饰的是beggars, 不是vendors

vendor是自动售卖机,就是路边那个大箱子,都见过吧。

还有,关于wave作为名词的解释是

n 1: one of a series of ridges that moves across the surface of a liquid (especially across a large body of water) [syn: moving ridge]

2: a movement like that of an ocean wave; "a wave of settlers"; "troops advancing in waves"

3: (physics) a movement up and down or back and forth [syn: undulation]

4: something that rises rapidly; "a wave of emotion swept over him"; "there was a sudden wave of buying before the market closed"; "a wave of conservatism in the country led by the hard right" ---这句中,显然是这个意思。

5: the act of signaling by a movement of the hand [syn: waving, wafture]

6: a hairdo that creates undulations in the hair

7: an undulating curve [syn: undulation]

8: a persistent and widespread unusual weather condition (especially of unusual temperatures)

9: a member of the women's reserve of the United States Navy; originally organized during World War II but now no longer a separate branch [syn: Wave]


作者: KevinQQ    时间: 2005-2-25 23:29

第二页看不到?还是不明白啊

1。我认为Vendor是兜售小商品的小商贩。小商贩和乞丐围着车...

2。答案C如果没有who更象正确答案。原句则为A phenomena ... is (that) waves...mob cars

请N人们再答疑啊,多谢多谢!


作者: colacat    时间: 2005-2-25 23:33

vendor是自动贩卖机,就是你投进去几块前的硬币,给你瓶饮料的那种


作者: colacat    时间: 2005-2-25 23:37

choice C :  A new phenomenon visible at Managua’s major intersections is waves of vendors and beggars, many of them children, who mob cars at the stoplights.


的结构是 a new phenomenon +形容词短语做定语+ is waves of verdors and beggars,同位语修饰beggars, + who引导的非限制性定语从句修饰 children.


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作者: KevinQQ    时间: 2005-2-26 00:06

谢谢Colacat...不过还有疑问:

1。Vendor: 看来我是为中国国情所累,以为Vendor即小商贩,因为常见些小贩在红灯时围着车卖小东西。OK,当它是自动贩卖机吧。

2。如果结构是“ a new phenomenon +形容词短语做定语+ is waves of verdors and beggars,同位语修饰beggars, + who引导的非限制性定语从句修饰 children”,那么该句即可简化为:A new phenominon is waves of vendors and beggars. (就不是表语从句了)这样一来,“is”怎么不该是"are"?


作者: colacat    时间: 2005-2-26 00:18

a+N 当然是单数了,所以是is

即使是简化,也是主系表结构,也不是表语从句啊


作者: KevinQQ    时间: 2005-2-26 00:39

明白了,谢谢。


wave + s 待研究....


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作者: colacat    时间: 2005-2-26 00:55

waves是做n

of +n and n介宾短语做定语修饰waves


作者: xncat    时间: 2005-3-11 11:21

我觉得Vendors是小商贩的意思,在十字路口那,车辆等红灯时,商贩和乞丐会围上来,而当中不少是儿童


作者: echo0221    时间: 2005-3-11 12:43

i can not understand why is a phenomenon visible. why not a visible phenomenon?


作者: laoyv    时间: 2005-3-14 06:00

it depends on which part you want to emphasize.

for example, "A new phenomenon visible at...." emphasizes "Phenomenon"

"A new visible phenomenon" emphasizes "visible phenomenon", which means that there are already some other "visible phenomenons" and this is a new one, which just does not make too much sense...

hopefully this will be helpful.


作者: toefl250    时间: 2005-3-31 05:13
在十字路口  有waves of 自动贩卖机, 好奇怪!!

作者: Dennies    时间: 2005-4-1 11:16

赞成!

VENDOR:SOMEONE WHO SELLS THINGS.郎文辞典是这样解释的。所以many of them chilren是vendors and beggers的同位语,who作非限制性定语从句修饰chilren.

另外,定语从句中主+系即that+be/which+be为了简洁,应尽量省!


作者: rick1027    时间: 2005-5-18 01:00

vendor 应该还是小贩的意思

自动贩卖机是vendor machine


作者: ghostlhx    时间: 2005-6-11 06:50





i can not understand why is a phenomenon visible. why not a visible phenomenon?


形容词短语( visible at Managua’s major intersections )做定语后置, 不可单独提前visible ,如果都提前修饰语序有误



作者: hitler999    时间: 2005-6-21 19:54
以下是引用colacat在2005-2-25 23:37:00的发言:

choice C :  A new phenomenon visible at Managua’s major intersections is waves of vendors and beggars, many of them children, who mob cars at the stoplights.


的结构是 a new phenomenon +形容词短语做定语+ is waves of verdors and beggars,同位语修饰beggars, + who引导的非限制性定语从句修饰 children.



有两点不同意,第一,vendors指小商贩而不是自动售货机(美国也没有一建国就有自动售货机啊),第二,who修饰的是 vendors and beggars,而不是children。


作者: seekmydream    时间: 2005-6-24 12:03

choice C :  A new phenomenon visible at Managua’s major intersections is waves of vendors and beggars, many of them children, who mob cars at the stoplights.
的结构是 a new phenomenon +形容词短语做定语+ is waves of verdors and beggars,同位语修饰beggars, + who引导的非限制性定语从句修饰 children.


many of them children 是独立主格(相当于一非限定性定语从句many of whom are children), 补充说明vendors and beggars(vendors 当然指人啦, 机器怎能在路口呢!)


who从句修饰children



作者: andrew_li    时间: 2005-7-11 17:52
以下是引用hitler999在2005-6-21 19:54:00的发言:

第一,vendors指小商贩而不是自动售货机(美国也没有一建国就有自动售货机啊),第二,who修饰的是 vendors and beggars,而不是children。


I agree.

who从句修饰children? If that was the case, the sentence should be written as something like,

"... waves of vendors and beggars, many of whom are children that mob cars at the stoplights."

Use a comma to set off parenthetical elements, as in "The Founders Bridge, which spans the Connecticut River, is falling down." By "parenthetical element," we mean a part of a sentence that can be removed without changing the essential meaning of that sentence. The parenthetical element is sometimes called "added information." This is the most difficult rule in punctuation because it is sometimes unclear what is "added" or "parenthetical" and what is essential to the meaning of a sentence.



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作者: henryz    时间: 2005-7-20 18:18

我觉得这个题最痛苦的就是要理解 waves of .... 可以作为一种现象(单数), 把这点想通了, 整体一读, C 就是最顺的了.


好题, 感谢楼主!



Henry


作者: lukewang1983    时间: 2005-8-11 10:55
vendor是供货的人呀。。。也就是做买卖的,也就是说可大可小啊~然后vending machine 是自动售货机呀。。。大家不要吓猜了~~~
作者: 我爱欧洲    时间: 2005-9-22 23:30

举例说明:


All the students  each    have a bright future.


主语   同位语    谓语


a.       谓语与宾语不存在搭配关系。have a bright future.


b.       主语与同位语不存在搭配关系。Students each


c.       同位语与谓语不存在搭配关系。 Each have



作者: jjll    时间: 2005-9-30 20:34
以下是引用我爱欧洲在2005-9-22 23:30:00的发言:

举例说明:


All the students  each    have a bright future.


主语   同位语    谓语


a.       谓语与宾语不存在搭配关系。have a bright future.


b.       主语与同位语不存在搭配关系。Students each


c.       同位语与谓语不存在搭配关系。 Each have



精辟!

谓语和宾语无所谓主谓一致,所以可以是a phenomenon ... is waves of ...

(A)中的phenomena也是错的。


作者: juliet01192000    时间: 2005-10-5 14:36

在没复习GMAT之前,我会认为WHO mob...中的who修饰vendors and beggars, 但是复习后(尤其是做完og后),我认为ETS在出现定从时更加prefer,尤其是定从前有“,”时,这个定从是修饰 “,”前离定从最近的那个单词的,此句中即:children.


不知道我的这个观点对不对,我认为弄清这个很重要,og上有很多选项考这个,向大家求证确认!!!谢谢!!!


作者: Ropis    时间: 2005-10-7 21:54

NICE, THANKS


作者: julia_ggw    时间: 2005-11-4 21:56
以下是引用rt316在2004-7-3 22:06:00的发言:
is是修饰A new phenomenon的,而且,is后省了宾从的引导词that。


这个不对吧。这是个简单句呀,简化后的结构就是


A new phenomenon is waves of vendors and baggers.


其余部分都是修饰成份呀,哪里有宾语从句呢?而且我记得按ETS的要求,宾语从句的引导词THAT基本上是不能省略的呀。



作者: handsong    时间: 2005-11-8 22:59

举例说明:


All the students  each    have a bright future.


主语   同位语    谓语


a.       谓语与宾语不存在搭配关系。have a bright future.


b.       主语与同位语不存在搭配关系。Students each


c.       同位语与谓语不存在搭配关系。 Each have



没错!那么,现在的问题是:如果主谓都是复数,宾语在什么情况下用单数,什么情况下用复数呢?


作者: handsong    时间: 2005-11-9 09:27
NN帮忙讲解一下哦
作者: lixxs3    时间: 2005-11-14 08:38

举例说明:


All the students  each    have a bright future.


主语   同位语    谓语


a.       谓语与宾语不存在搭配关系。have a bright future.


b.       主语与同位语不存在搭配关系。Students each


c.       同位语与谓语不存在搭配关系。 Each have






没错!那么,现在的问题是:如果主谓都是复数,宾语在什么情况下用单数,什么情况下用复数呢?



但是主语和宾语是存在搭配关系的吧,如果主语是抽象名词, 那么宾语该怎么搭配?


作者: cindy_wanzi    时间: 2005-11-26 22:12
以下是引用juliet01192000在2005-10-5 14:36:00的发言:

在没复习GMAT之前,我会认为WHO mob...中的who修饰vendors and beggars, 但是复习后(尤其是做完og后),我认为ETS在出现定从时更加prefer,尤其是定从前有“,”时,这个定从是修饰 “,”前离定从最近的那个单词的,此句中即:children.


不知道我的这个观点对不对,我认为弄清这个很重要,og上有很多选项考这个,向大家求证确认!!!谢谢!!!



你说的有道理,只有with可以跳跃修饰。我选的是B,唉,都没有人讨论,说明我错的太离谱啦
作者: bencathy999    时间: 2006-3-11 08:43

对于这样的主系表结构的的系动词的单复数形式是由主语决定的,而不是标语。e.g. the greatest asset of the university is its excellent students.


his fault is many wrong words at the wrong time. 仅供参考。


作者: vivianwsp198    时间: 2006-4-26 11:15
---------(C) A new phenomenon visible at Managua’s major intersections is waves of vendors and beggars, many of them children, who           [mob cars at the stoplights]

But I still do not understand the last part of C. When I put it in the sentence.I am confused by " many of them children,who"   how to connect  [ mob cars at the stoplights.  In meantime, what's the meaning about " many of them children",


而且我觉得vendor应该是小贩不是自动售货机。


哪位NN帮忙回答一下。


作者: vivianwsp198    时间: 2006-4-26 12:09
我知道MOB的意思了,在这里他作为一个VERB,表示围住:聚集在一起的和拥挤或气愤的人群,尤其是气愤地或极端热情地:To crowd around and jostle or annoy, especially in anger or excessive enthusiasm:

作者: demon_hunter    时间: 2006-4-28 13:15
以下是引用colacat在2005-2-6 9:23:00的发言:

who 修饰的是beggars, 不是vendors


vendor是自动售卖机,就是路边那个大箱子,都见过吧。


还有,关于wave作为名词的解释是


n 1: one of a series of ridges that moves across the surface of a liquid (especially across a large body of water) [syn: moving ridge]


2: a movement like that of an ocean wave; "a wave of settlers"; "troops advancing in waves"


3: (physics) a movement up and down or back and forth [syn: undulation]


4: something that rises rapidly; "a wave of emotion swept over him"; "there was a sudden wave of buying before the market closed"; "a wave of conservatism in the country led by the hard right" ---这句中,显然是这个意思。


5: the act of signaling by a movement of the hand [syn: waving, wafture]


6: a hairdo that creates undulations in the hair


7: an undulating curve [syn: undulation]


8: a persistent and widespread unusual weather condition (especially of unusual temperatures)


9: a member of the women's reserve of the United States Navy; originally organized during World War II but now no longer a separate branch [syn: Wave]


Thanks for the explanation.

Howeverm there is a fault I would like to point out.


Vendor应该是指路边的那种兜售东西的小贩。就像北京秀水街外面,上海襄阳路外面兜售皮包和手表的小贩。

Let's Fight,
Demon Hunter


作者: demon_hunter    时间: 2006-4-28 13:18
以下是引用hitler999在2005-6-21 19:54:00的发言:


有两点不同意,第一,vendors指小商贩而不是自动售货机(美国也没有一建国就有自动售货机啊),第二,who修饰的是 vendors and beggars,而不是children。



Totally agree


Let's Fight,
Demon Hunter


作者: demon_hunter    时间: 2006-4-28 13:27
以下是引用jjll在2005-9-30 20:34:00的发言:


精辟!

谓语和宾语无所谓主谓一致,所以可以是a phenomenon ... is waves of ...

(A)中的phenomena也是错的。


All the students each have a bright future.


为什么不说


All the students each have bright future.


为什么宾语要用单数?NN指点。


Let's Fight,
Demon Hunter


作者: jessicafan    时间: 2006-5-2 02:04

不理解为什么这里可以用 many of them children


我不能确定这是不是独立主格


独立主格不是应该


名词(代词)+现在分词、过去分词;
名词(代词)+形容词;
名词(代词)+副词;
名词(代词)+不定式;
名词(代词) +介词短语构成。 

似乎没有 名词+名词


请教NN,3Q


作者: fengyun1    时间: 2006-9-5 09:42

我的理解:

vendor 应该还是小贩的意思,自动贩卖机在美国是vending machine。

vendors and beggars,小贩和乞丐,非常对称。

many of them children,是插入语,who修饰vendors and beggars。

choice C : A new phenomenon (visible at Managua’s major intersections) is waves of vendors and beggars, {many of them children}, who mob cars at the stoplights.

同意

我知道MOB的意思了,在这里他作为一个VERB,表示围住:聚集在一起的和拥挤或气愤的人群,尤其是气愤地或极端热情地:To crowd around and jostle or annoy, especially in anger or excessive enthusiasm:


作者: rebeccashally    时间: 2006-10-13 23:55

看到帖子,我想请教:phenomenon和phenomena有何区别?


作者: CD用户174382    时间: 2006-11-8 14:44

只存在主谓搭配,主语同位语、同位语谓语、还有谓语和宾语是没有搭配关系的,所以is waves没有错


作者: CareWu    时间: 2006-11-19 10:46
以下是引用rebeccashally在2006-10-13 23:55:00的发言:

看到帖子,我想请教:phenomenon和phenomena有何区别?

Phenomenon 是这个名词唯一的单数形式; phenomena 是常用的复数形式。 Phenomenons 在非科技性的文章也可当作复数使用, 其意思是:“不寻常的事或人”:
They were phenomenons in the history of music.
作者: xiaoy791    时间: 2007-4-2 14:56
以下是引用qsrlw在2004-12-9 5:34:00的发言:
---------(C) A new phenomenon visible at Managua’s major intersections is waves of vendors and beggars, many of them children, who           [mob cars at the stoplights]

STONEREN:  "4-which include many clildren and mob cars at the stoplights,定从(原文意图)修饰前置名词vendors and beggars;A的错误在2部分(定从n, + which be + a.一般情况下可以被a. + n.替代【注:除了逻辑或平行结构需要】);3部分主谓一致;4部分which定从的指代不明确,不如C中用同位语+明确定从who好。"

Thank Stoneren for your explanation. But I still do not understand the last part of C. When I put it in the sentence.I am confused by " many of them children,who"   how to connect  [ mob cars at the stoplights.  In meantime, what's the meaning about " many of them children",bty, could u please tell me the relationship between them and children?  Thank you very much

Because one sentence can have only one subject. It  sounds like properer to add a "are" in "many of them children,who". But if thus,the sentence would have double subjects.One is "A new phenomenon" and another is "many of them ". Therefore,"many of them " is used for modifier. It equals "many of which are". The subordinate clause inducted by who decorates children.


作者: 茆峁昴    时间: 2007-5-21 09:20
以下是引用rebeccashally在2006-10-13 23:55:00的发言:

看到帖子,我想请教:phenomenon和phenomena有何区别?

phenomena是phenomenon的复数形式
作者: 茆峁昴    时间: 2007-5-21 09:23
以下是引用jessicafan在2006-5-2 2:04:00的发言:

不理解为什么这里可以用 many of them children

我不能确定这是不是独立主格

独立主格不是应该

名词(代词)+现在分词、过去分词;
名词(代词)+形容词;
名词(代词)+副词;
名词(代词)+不定式;
名词(代词) +介词短语构成。 

似乎没有 名词+名词

请教NN,3Q

i agree!
还有这道题不会是题目打错了吧?many of them children会不会是many of their children?


作者: easydudu    时间: 2007-5-21 17:00
vendor也可以做摊贩的意思哦,比如street vendor。我认为该句中vendor指的应该不是自动贩售机。
作者: Pinpinpink    时间: 2007-6-30 17:08
以下是引用jessicafan在2006-5-2 2:04:00的发言:

不理解为什么这里可以用 many of them children

我不能确定这是不是独立主格

独立主格不是应该

名词(代词)+现在分词、过去分词;
名词(代词)+形容词;
名词(代词)+副词;
名词(代词)+不定式;
名词(代词) +介词短语构成。 

似乎没有 名词+名词

请教NN,3Q

在白勇的语法书里面有  n.+n.  的独立主格结构哦!

这里用的是独立主格结构没有错!


作者: yetemwok    时间: 2007-9-5 03:15
标题: Just talk about it!

A new phenomena, which is visible at Managua’s major intersections, are waves of vendors and beggars, which include many children and mob cars at the stoplights.

***"which" here is a wrong pronoun for "venders and beggars", some person

(A) A new phenomena, which is visible at Managua’s major intersections, are waves of vendors and beggars, which include many children and

*** Ditto, "which" is an unacceptable pronoun for people

(B) Visible at Managua’s major intersections are waves of vendors and beggars with many children, new phenomena that

*** the first half is the perfect sentence construction--inverted clause enlivens the expression; however, in the second half, the completion phrase is illogical in that "a phonomena" CAN NOT mob cars. Grammatically, nothing is wrong here; but logically, the sentence makes nonsense.

(C) A new phenomenon visible at Managua’s major intersections is waves of vendors and beggars, many of them children, who

*** It can picked up as the better devil from the five since others may suffer more grammatically or logically. There is something still to be perfected, i.e., rather than "many of them children", the better, more standardized expression should be "many of whom are children". MBA dotcom, sometimes, is cunning and tricky.

(D) Phenomenally new waves of vendors, beggars, and many children are visible at Managua’s major intersections, which

*** This is the worst expression from five: after reading the sentence, can we make any sense out of it? Confusing as it is, the sentence conveys nothing than confusion.

(E) A wave of vendors and beggars, many of whom are children, are visible at Managua’s major intersections, where they are a new phenomenon

*** The sentence suffers from the agreement between the subject "a wave" and "are"; futher, at the end of construction, the expression is illogical.

Maybe the better expression conveying the similar information could be constructed as:

Visible at Managua’s major intersections are waves of vendors and beggars, many of whom (are) children, who mob cars at the stoplights.

Whether the "are" here could be UNDERSTOOD is rather debatable. Checking with some of MBA dotcom's grammar rules, it seems necessary that an "ARE" be here to meet the canon of King's English; however, from some editorials' article, it may, sometimes, be omitted.


作者: sch    时间: 2007-9-13 10:32
A new phenomenon visible at Managua’s major intersections is waves of vendors and beggars, many of them children, who mob cars at the stoplights.

many of them children插入语啊.who跳过插入语修饰vendors 和 beggars啊.
如果who作为非限定修饰children,那么表示整体概念,表示属性,也就是说 所有的children都mob cars,即mob cars是所有children的属性,逻辑不通了

vendors和beggars一起被who修饰,不过这不重要啊,就算只是修饰beggars也不影响做题吧?

"在M的主要路口可以看到的一个现象就是小贩和乞丐构成的人流,他们(小贩+乞丐)大多都是小孩子,这些人流骚扰汽车.

作者: hopelanxyn    时间: 2007-12-5 03:31

there should be another fault in A.

which can not refer to a person, so which should be replaced with who.

right?


作者: hopelanxyn    时间: 2007-12-5 10:26

还是不明白WHICH修饰谁,感觉象是修饰vendors and beggars,但是发现OG11VERBAL REVIEW sc73里有一段话:

relative pronouns, such as which, should follow as closely as possible the nouns to which they refer.

糊涂了!!!

relative pronouns, such as which, should follow as closely as possible the nouns to which they refer.

糊涂了!!!


作者: red8me    时间: 2008-1-9 12:34
谢谢各位大虾的精辟解释,回去苦读语法我
作者: niuroumian    时间: 2008-3-21 22:18

谓语肯定要跟着主语了,主语是a phenonmenon, 谓语当然是is 了,waves of  ******是一种情况,而不是很多浪花,没有矛盾。

不过NN说的all the students each have a dream ,感到奇怪, 这句话本身就是错误的吧,all the students each has a dream 。 ?

求解


作者: 单行线    时间: 2008-3-23 11:46
以下是引用niuroumian在2008-3-21 22:18:00的发言:

谓语肯定要跟着主语了,主语是a phenonmenon, 谓语当然是is 了,waves of  ******是一种情况,而不是很多浪花,没有矛盾。

不过NN说的all the students each have a dream ,感到奇怪, 这句话本身就是错误的吧,all the students each has a dream 。 ?

求解

这句话主语是all the students 而each是同位语,主谓一致,所以谓语要用have。谓语用复数还是单数和宾语、同位语没有关系,主语和谓语一致就好了。
作者: chaser_jane    时间: 2008-4-12 11:43

个人想法

第一层关系:A new phenomena,[主语] is[谓语] 主谓单复数一致  waves of vendors and beggars [宾语]

第二层关系:visible at Managua's major intersections [形容词短语,后置定语,修饰主语] many of them children [独立主格,修饰vendors and beggars] who...[定语从句,修饰vendors and beggars]

另外应该注意,

名词+独立主格+定语从句,则定语从句修饰名词,本句就是这种情况
名词+同位语+定语从句,则存在就近原则,定语从句修饰同位语


作者: hidenari    时间: 2008-8-5 11:04
以下是引用qsrlw在2004-12-9 5:34:00的发言:
---------(C) A new phenomenon visible at Managua’s major intersections is waves of vendors and beggars, many of them children, who           [mob cars at the stoplights]

STONEREN:  "4-which include many clildren and mob cars at the stoplights,定从(原文意图)修饰前置名词vendors and beggars;A的错误在2部分(定从n, + which be + a.一般情况下可以被a. + n.替代【注:除了逻辑或平行结构需要】);3部分主谓一致;4部分which定从的指代不明确,不如C中用同位语+明确定从who好。"

Thank Stoneren for your explanation. But I still do not understand the last part of C. When I put it in the sentence.I am confused by " many of them children,who"   how to connect  [ mob cars at the stoplights.  In meantime, what's the meaning about " many of them children",bty, could u please tell me the relationship between them and children?  Thank you very much

beggars = many of them = children

逗号后面的many of them 紧跟同位语children结构很紧凑,共同修饰beggars,如果用many of them are children稍显啰嗦


作者: dianecarton    时间: 2008-8-29 05:38
我认为many of them children是插入语
作者: myhappyyang    时间: 2008-9-1 23:21

我想请问NN一个问题, water and books 谓语动词应该用单数还是复数? food and water 谓语动词应该用单数还是复数?

books and food谓语动词应该用单数还是复数? book and desk 谓语动词应该用单数还是复数?books and desk 呢?


作者: neverlandlin    时间: 2008-9-16 14:20

我想的比较简单。

我觉得这句话的结构就是sth(A) is sth(B)的结构。a new phenomenon is weaves.。

然后weaves连接of+名词,表示限定或修饰,后面的many of them children是插入语,who引导定于从句修饰beggers。


作者: Shaobing    时间: 2008-9-27 16:13
以下是引用myhappyyang在2008-9-1 23:21:00的发言:

我想请问NN一个问题, water and books 谓语动词应该用单数还是复数? food and water 谓语动词应该用单数还是复数?

books and food谓语动词应该用单数还是复数? book and desk 谓语动词应该用单数还是复数?books and desk 呢?

A and B 结构, 谓语动词都用复数


作者: lovezhaochen    时间: 2008-11-4 00:36
vendor就是小贩~~参考走遍美国第二单元有个卖热狗的小贩就是vendor
作者: linlang    时间: 2008-12-1 15:46

A new phenomena, which is visible at Managua’s major intersections, are waves of vendors and beggars, which include many children and mob cars at the stoplights.

我理解的是:which修饰phenomena,"are"不对,应改为is,这样主谓一致。第二个which修饰 vendors and beggers. 原句中可以看出include和mob是平行并列形式,发出者是vendors and beggers.(所以C中who指代的是vendor and beggers )

我的问题是:如果改为 a new phenomena , which is visible at Managua's magor intersection, is waves of vendor and beggars,who include many children and mob cars at the stoplights. 这样可不可以呢,会有歧义吗?我没看出,

或者改为 ......vendor and beggars, including many children and mobbing cars in the stoplights. 这样可以吗?我不太清楚,如果不对,是因为,改为including....的话,including其修饰主语是phenomena吗?

谢谢~


作者: linlang    时间: 2008-12-3 23:10

咦?这帖子沉淀太久了吗?没有人回答我。。。大家快看那


作者: aeoluseros    时间: 2008-12-3 23:35
以下是引用linlang在2008-12-1 15:46:00的发言:

A new phenomena, which is visible at Managua’s major intersections, are waves of vendors and beggars, which include many children and mob cars at the stoplights.

我理解的是:which修饰phenomena,"are"不对,应改为is,这样主谓一致。第二个which修饰 vendors and beggers. 原句中可以看出include和mob是平行并列形式,发出者是vendors and beggers.(所以C中who指代的是vendor and beggers )

我的问题是:如果改为 a new phenomena , which is visible at Managua's magor intersection, is waves of vendor and beggars,who include many children and mob cars at the stoplights. 这样可不可以呢,会有歧义吗?我没看出,

或者改为 ......vendor and beggars, including many children and mobbing cars in the stoplights. 这样可以吗?我不太清楚,如果不对,是因为,改为including....的话,including其修饰主语是phenomena吗?

确实,are应该改成is。原句的第二个which是优先指代waves,但是waves include many children逻辑不对。

后面改为who以后,who也只指代beggars而不能指代vendors andd beggars.

改为including many children也是不对的...including短语做定语修饰waves,前面是主系表,Ing短语在句尾只做定语,因为不能伴随。

ps:你对这句话的改动有点大...没必要这么改...只要弄清楚ing短语和定语从句的修饰关系就可以。关于修饰关系,OG上说得很清楚。


作者: linlang    时间: 2008-12-5 00:14
嗯,嗯,明白了,尤其是-ing那个,谢谢:—)
作者: KIKIdi    时间: 2009-1-12 13:31

我觉得vendors还是作为小摊贩讲比较好,这样意义上才能和作为乞丐讲的beggars并列,而且如果是贩卖机怎么会有children呢。

PS我们都叫贩卖机vending。

who个人认为是修饰vendors and beggars的。都好中间的是插入。


作者: iamyamy    时间: 2009-2-11 01:34
thanks to all of you~~~~~
作者: kevirey    时间: 2009-4-8 10:41
who 也可以指代vendors吧
作者: tohw    时间: 2009-4-25 17:54

本题目中 many of them children 为什么不加一个动词are呢?

这个用法在OG89中,使用则是有is。二者有啥子区别?

89.
                
Presenters at the seminar, one who is blind, will demonstrate adaptive equipment that allows visually impaired people to use computers.

(A) one who

(B) one of them who

(C) and one of them who

(D) one of whom

(E) one of which

Idiom

The writer is trying to include information regarding one of the presenters at the seminar; the phrase must correctly refer back to presenters. The pronouns who or whom should be used to refer to people. In this situation, the correct pronoun is whom because an objective case pronoun must be used following the preposition of

A   One who could only be used after an introductory word such as including

B   One of them who is awkward and ungrammatical

C   And creates the impression that the blind presenter is not part of the group; one of them who is awkward and ungrammatical

D   Correct. This sentence uses the proper objective pronoun whom; the phrase clearly conveys the idea of one person out of a larger group.

E   The pronoun which can only refer to objects, events, or unnamed animals; it cannot be used to refer to people

The correct answer is D.


作者: ryanyong    时间: 2009-5-12 04:41
ONE of whom is blind对,为什么用is,因为is没划线。
还可以表达为one of them blind.
而one who 我暂时正在查,什么叫用在比如including one who ..我的理解是此时incg加one,WHO引导从句修饰one.whom不能引导从句。而我又设想one who did this caught her heart对不对,若按one who 必须在介绍性词后的原则,可能 上句会冗余而改为the one did ...

希望高手解答
作者: ryanyong    时间: 2009-5-12 04:47
one who did 没有限定性,用法上比较不常规,该有the,即the one。突然自己想到是不是这个原因导致没有冠词的one,由于指向性差的原因于是只有在有”前行特指”的情况下才不加冠词,而往往,前行特指似乎都是介绍性的表达如including.
作者: feifeizoe    时间: 2009-7-5 15:42
A new phenomenon visible at Managua’s major intersections is waves of vendors and beggars, many of them children, who mob cars at the stoplights.

有两个问题:

1. 就是句子中:phenomena是复数名词,为什么可以用a new phenomena来修饰呢?

这样不是表示一个单数的形式了么。

2. 就是C选项中的who mob the cars at the stoplights. 这里到底是就近指代children,还是指代‘vendors and baggars'.

谢谢。


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作者: calvin_1124    时间: 2009-7-9 09:55
这里的VENDOR是指小贩还是自动售货机?
作者: sharon011516    时间: 2009-7-14 19:09
标题: vendor的意思挺清楚地吧

[countable]
1
someone who sells things, especially on the street
news vendor/ice-cream vendor etc He bought a copy from a newspaper vendor.the shouts of street vendors
2
formal or law someone who is selling something
leading software vendors


这是longman四版的原文解释。应该是小商贩吧~



作者: mikecello    时间: 2009-7-15 02:23
I don't know why, but I can't quote right now.

To feifei MM:

1. I think that is one of the reasons why A is wrong.
2. My guess is that "who" modifies Children

Tell me if I was wrong please!

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作者: 追逐2011    时间: 2009-8-20 22:52
以下是引用niuroumian在2008/3/21 22:18:00的发言:

谓语肯定要跟着主语了,主语是a phenonmenon, 谓语当然是is 了,waves of  ******是一种情况,而不是很多浪花,没有矛盾。

不过NN说的all the students each have a dream ,感到奇怪, 这句话本身就是错误的吧,all the students each has a dream 。 ?

求解

主谓一致中,复数名词/复数代词+EACH +VERB,谓语动词用复数。

这个白勇的书里P50页有写。


作者: 追逐2011    时间: 2009-8-20 23:23
以下是引用xx2004在2004/7/3 7:19:00的发言:

[求助]885 SecE-23
A new phenomena, which is visible at Managua’s major intersections, are waves of vendors and beggars, which include many children and mob cars at the stoplights.

(A) A new phenomena, which is visible at Managua’s major intersections, are waves of vendors and beggars, which include many children and
(B) Visible at Managua’s major intersections are waves of vendors and beggars with many children, new phenomena that
(C) A new phenomenon visible at Managua’s major intersections is waves of vendors and beggars, many of them children, who
(D) Phenomenally new waves of vendors, beggars, and many children are visible at Managua’s major intersections, which
(E) A wave of vendors and beggars, many of whom are children, are visible at Managua’s major intersections, where they are a new phenomenon and

Correct answer: C
I know the mistakes in the other choices. but why C is right since " A new phenomenon visible...is waves of.....

Why "is" plus plural "waves".

Thank you!

几个问题明确一下

1、vendor 这里应该是小贩,和beggar 形成并列关系。

2、主谓一致即可,同位语和谓语,谓语和宾语未必要保持一致,前面一位NN的例子: all the students each have a bright future,举的很好。

     这里主语是  a phenomenon,谓语应该是单数

3、(C) A new phenomenon 【visible at Managua’s major intersections】 iswaves of vendors and beggars,( many of them children,) who mob cars at the stoplights】

正确的句子应该是这个。

我的理解是:

 a new phenomenon is waves:句子主干

【visible at Managua’s major intersections】:形容词短语后置修饰主语

,( many of them children,) :插入语,补充说明 vendors and beggars

【vendors and beggars  who mob cars at the stoplights】:WAVE的同位语,解释说明WAVE的,。

请高手指正。


作者: 追逐2011    时间: 2009-8-21 09:55

顺便提个问题:

one of them children

one of whom are children

one of whom children

三者什么区别?


作者: cindyg    时间: 2009-11-28 12:02
vendor 在这里指的不是街上的小贩吗?
作者: genimix    时间: 2009-12-14 14:15
标题: 本题终极定论
A new phenomenon visible at Managua’s major intersections is waves of vendors and beggars, many of them children, who mob cars at the stoplights

主干:A new phenomenon is waves of vendors and beggars
         很多人认为单数的phenomenon与复数的waves单复数不一致,但请注意phenomenon是抽象名词,描述   一种现象,因此不要求主宾的单复数一致。

后置定语:visible at Managua’s major intersections 修饰phenomenon

宾语:waves of vendors and beggars:“waves of 小贩和乞丐”。大家在中国也应该看见过类似情况,很多卖报纸的小贩和乞丐不都是在那种红绿灯比较长的十字路口拦车卖报和乞讨吗?

many of them children:独立主格结构作插入定语修饰vendors and beggars,请注意独立主格结构只能作状语或定语,没有做同位语一说。

who mob cars at the stoplights,定语从句修饰vendors and beggars

大家应该明白了吧
作者: 逆时桢    时间: 2010-3-15 23:30
主谓一致,不需要系表一致的吧
作者: costan    时间: 2010-5-22 15:23
who 修饰的是beggars, 不是vendors
vendor是自动售卖机,就是路边那个大箱子,都见过吧。
还有,关于wave作为名词的解释是
n 1: one of a series of ridges that moves across the surface of a liquid (especially across a large body of water) [syn: moving ridge]
2: a movement like that of an ocean wave; "a wave of settlers"; "troops advancing in waves"
3: (physics) a movement up and down or back and forth [syn: undulation]
4: something that rises rapidly; "a wave of emotion swept over him"; "there was a sudden wave of buying before the market closed"; "a wave of conservatism in the country led by the hard right" ---这句中,显然是这个意思。
5: the act of signaling by a movement of the hand [syn: waving, wafture]
6: a hairdo that creates undulations in the hair
7: an undulating curve [syn: undulation]
8: a persistent and widespread unusual weather condition (especially of unusual temperatures)
9: a member of the women's reserve of the United States Navy; originally organized during World War II but now no longer a separate branch [syn: Wave]
-- by 会员 colacat (2005/2/6 9:23:00)


为什么vendor 不是小贩.小贩和乞丐成群,把自动售货机和乞丐放在一起,不是这个本意吧?
作者: costan    时间: 2010-5-22 15:25
以下是引用xx2004在2004/7/3 7:19:00的发言:
[求助]885 SecE-23
A new phenomena, which is visible at Managua’s major intersections, are waves of vendors and beggars, which include many children and mob cars at the stoplights.

(A) A new phenomena, which is visible at Managua’s major intersections, are waves of vendors and beggars, which include many children and
(B) Visible at Managua’s major intersections are waves of vendors and beggars with many children, new phenomena that
(C) A new phenomenon visible at Managua’s major intersections is waves of vendors and beggars, many of them children, who
(D) Phenomenally new waves of vendors, beggars, and many children are visible at Managua’s major intersections, which
(E) A wave of vendors and beggars, many of whom are children, are visible at Managua’s major intersections, where they are a new phenomenon and

Correct answer: C
I know the mistakes in the other choices. but why C is right since " A new phenomenon visible...is waves of.....
Why "is" plus plural "waves".
Thank you!

几个问题明确一下
1、vendor 这里应该是小贩,和beggar 形成并列关系。
2、主谓一致即可,同位语和谓语,谓语和宾语未必要保持一致,前面一位NN的例子: all the students each have a bright future,举的很好。
    这里主语是  a phenomenon,谓语应该是单数
3、(C) A new phenomenon 【visible at Managua’s major intersections】 iswaves of vendors and beggars,( many of them children,) who mob cars at the stoplights】
正确的句子应该是这个。

我的理解是:
a new phenomenon is waves:句子主干
【visible at Managua’s major intersections】:形容词短语后置修饰主语
,( many of them children,) :插入语,补充说明 vendors and beggars
【vendors and beggars  who mob cars at the stoplights】:WAVE的同位语,解释说明WAVE的,。

请高手指正。

-- by 会员 追逐2011 (2009/8/20 23:23:00)


同意!!
作者: 牛肉包子    时间: 2010-6-26 16:45

作者: westlife6th    时间: 2010-7-25 20:14
摆脱发帖要三思而行啊,宾从的that怎么能够省略呢,二楼
作者: westlife6th    时间: 2010-7-25 20:24
此贴历经6年的讨论!!牛
作者: anneyue    时间: 2010-8-7 17:32
当年我还读初中的时候它就开始讨论了,汗。。。受益匪浅,顶一下!
作者: wangle52119    时间: 2010-9-9 17:20
A new phenomenon is (that) waves of vendors and beggars mob cars at the stoplights.
我觉得这就是此题的主干,帖子没看完,也许大家早就给出了答案,只是觉得前两页讲的不明确。
本体主要为表语从句: 一个新现象为当红灯亮起的时候,大量小贩和乞丐就会围在车的周围。
visible at Managua’s major intersections 做 phenomenon 定语,many of them children做vendors and beggars 同位语。vendor还是做小贩理解好,这样他们才能在红灯时围上来。
作者: gregery2007    时间: 2010-12-16 17:23
learned
作者: linfeng87    时间: 2010-12-19 15:30
从原句中可以看出include many children 和mob cars at the stoplights 并列,共同修饰vendors and beggars。
可得c中who mob cars at the stoplights 是修饰vendors and beggars,而不是修饰childrean
作者: milojin    时间: 2011-6-24 21:53
为什么我的改错这么苦逼!!!
作者: crystal522    时间: 2011-7-21 17:34
那么多,看的我眼花了
作者: gmatadel    时间: 2011-7-27 15:36
learning..................




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