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作者: bigjoe 时间: 2011-7-7 11:38
标题: Corporate MBA Recruiting项目 - JnJ, Eli Lilly, Dupont, Danaher, Medtronics
除了IB, MC，另外一个大的MBA出口是Corporate MBA Recruiting项目，这方面的信息版面较少，我先从各大主流项目的网页上转载一些信息给大家，有兴趣的同学请注意看两点，方便大家选校：

1. Target School
2. 工作年限等要求

注意的是，据我所知，有一些较为特殊的情况不符合要求的也有进的，所以仅供参考。

作者: bigjoe 时间: 2011-7-7 11:42
JnJ

http://careers.jnj.com/leadership-development-programs

International Recruitment Development Program (IRDP)IRDP provides high-potential candidates who have recently received MBAs, or graduate business degrees, with an opportunity to learn about our global businesses and prepare for leadership opportunities within our companies. This 12-month program begins with rotational assignments and training in the United States and prepares participants for permanent assignments in their home country. Recruiting for IRLDP occurs during September and October each year.

Learn More
http://careers.jnj.com/sites/default/files/ldp/pdf/IRDP.pdf
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bigjoe's note: JnJ没有在网站上公布他的Target School，但是据我所知是有的，基本上到从Top数到UNC/Olin/USC/Emory/Georgetown/Kelley这些都还安全，再向后就不一定了。另外，Thunderbird是Target School。

作者: bigjoe 时间: 2011-7-7 11:42
Eli Lilly

http://www.lilly.com/careers/students/mba/Pages/lldp.aspx

Lilly Leadership Development Program
Employee Profiles | FAQs
Engage * Develop * Motivate

Overview
The Lilly Leadership Development Program (LLDP) is designed to engage, develop, and motivate highly talented and innovative recent MBA graduates. Its purpose is to recruit and accelerate the career development of those who possess true leadership qualities. This initiative is supported by the Marketing, Finance, and Human Resource components, with opportunities in other business areas where appropriate.
Benefits
The program allows MBAs to:

?Network and establish relationships with executive leaders
?Showcase individual capabilities and leadership potential to senior and executive leadership
?Work on challenging projects to further master technical and leadership competencies
?Gain broad exposure to Lilly and understand how Lilly's leaders tackle complex industry and company related issues
?Gain a broad understanding of component strategies to help prepare for future leadership roles
?Participate in a formalized mentoring program
Eligibility
To be considered for the LLDP program, you must:

?Be a recent MBA graduate with concentration in Marketing, Finance, or Human Resources from one of Lilly's targeted MBA schools (listed below)
?Demonstrate leadership and ability to influence
?Have 3-5 years of previous work experience, preferably related to your area of concentration
?Demonstrate analytical thought and aptitude
?Possess strong problem solving skills
?Demonstrate excellent communication, teamwork, and interpersonal skills
Consideration
Students who attend a targeted MBA school (listed below) should make appropriate arrangements to meet with Lilly representatives on campus during corporate presentations and interviews.
Target MBA Schools

?Columbia University
?Duke University
?Harvard University
?Indiana University
?Northwestern University
?Stanford
?Thunderbird
?University of Chicago
?University of Michigan
?University of North Carolina
?University of Pennsylvania
?University of Texas

作者: bigjoe 时间: 2011-7-7 11:43
Dupont

http://www2.dupont.com/MLDP/en_US/

(MLDP) is a leadership program designed to inject marketing talent and develop future leaders for DuPont through progressively challenging roles in different businesses with development support, structured training, and senior level networking and mentorship. The program brings the best talent from leading business schools to deliver new thinking, visible results and lasting impact on our multi-billion-dollar businesses worldwide.
The day has come for you to stop talking about what you could do and start looking at what you will accomplish. As a member of the DuPont Marketing Leadership Development Program (MLDP), each day will present you with an opportunity to make an impact on your career and on the future of DuPont.
You will develop skills that will prepare you for a leadership position. DuPont Senior management is committed to - and personally invested in - seeing this happen through guidance, support and by expecting nothing short of brilliant work. You will be challenged with real-world assignments that have the potential to shape the business of DuPont today and tomorrow.
You have the ability. The Marketing Leadership Development Program is your opportunity.

Early in their careers, MLDP participants make a global impact. Even if you’re based out of corporate headquarters in Wilmington, DE, participants have the opportunity to interact with colleagues around the world. In addition, based on business needs, some participants will have the opportunity to have roles that relocate them to outside the U.S. (long- or short-term) or offer them the opportunity to travel globally on a regular basis.

International participants, as members of the MLDP Global Segment, will have rotations in their home country and/or the U.S. based on business and region need. After graduating from the program, based on business and region need, you can expect to have full-time placement in your home country.

We are looking for talented marketing professionals who can grow and develop into future leaders for DuPont. Therefore, we need candidates with the skills, experience and passion to make a difference not only to the company but also to their own careers
Are you the right fit for the MLDP? We are looking for:
Background and Experience Candidates with five or more years of marketing-related experience. You must possess or be pursuing an MBA from a leading business school with emphases in Marketing or Business Strategy. You must possess a demonstrated track record of excellence, strong results orientation and leadership at work, school and in the community.
Skills Outstanding strategic thinking, execution ability and influence management skills. Strong problem solving, communication/presentation and interpersonal skills will help you succeed in our program and in your professional life.
Passion and Commitment A strong passion for marketing. A strong desire to make a difference to people's lives, thrive on change, learn continuously and drive results will help you fulfill your career aspirations. Because MLDPs have the potential to become future company leaders, we are looking for candidates who want long-term career opportunities in the same company.
International Students (Foreign Nationals) Our increasing focus on emerging economies requires professionals with international experience and interests. The Global Segment of the Marketing Leadership Development Program (MLDP) is intended to develop foreign nationals into marketing leaders who can strengthen the DuPont businesses in many regions of the world.
For full-time and internship positions, at this time, the MLDP is hiring international students with the authorization to work in the countries listed below. Based on future business needs, this country list may adjust.

?China
?Japan
?Mexico
?Brazil
?India

As a member of the MLDP Global Segment your rotations will be in your home country and/or the U.S. based on business and region need. After graduating from the program, based on business and region need, you can expect to have full-time placement in your home country.
Offers of employment through the Marketing Leadership Development Program of DuPont are contingent upon a candidate’s ability to demonstrate that he/she is authorized to work in the United States. If a candidate is a student authorized to work based on Optional Practical Training (OPT), then an assignment in the United States will not exceed the period of work authorization.

We work hard to identify and attract the best marketing talent for DuPont. Our goal is to have a consistent presence at leading business schools and MBA recruiting events, connecting with qualified candidates throughout their MBA experience.
The business schools where we recruit on campus for both full-time and internship positions are:

?Darden School of Business

?Fuqua School of Business

?Kellogg School of Business

?Penn State Smeal College of Business

?Stephen M. Ross School of Business at the University of Michigan

?UNC Kenan-Flagler Business School

?Yale School of Management

The business schools where we recruit on campus only for internship positions are:

?Kelley School of Business

作者: bigjoe 时间: 2011-7-7 11:44
Danaher, Pay堪比Consulting的Corporate项目

http://www.danaheru.com/mba-360.php

GENERAL MANGEMENT DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM [size=-1][size=-1]Get to know Danaher, and you’ll discover one of the most remarkable success stories in the Fortune 500. A few facts about Danaher:

?We own some of the world’s leading industrial brands; products that span some of the most demanding applications in the world.
?We’re a leading manufacturer of medical equipment; microscopes that let researchers see life at 100 nanometers in three dimensions.
?We’re the leading manufacturer of dental equipment; dental diagnostics that spot decay as it forms, enabling painless, non-invasive treatments.
?We help the world have safer water through advanced testing devices.
?We’re at the forefront of innovation in product labeling, packaging and tracking, electronic testing, hand tools, precision motion control, and a variety of other industrial products.
?We’ve generated free cash flow in excess of net income for more than 16 consecutive years
?We’ve delivered for shareholders at a compounded annual growth rate in excess of 21% during the last 10 years.
This extraordinary success is the direct result of the Danaher Business System (DBS), a powerful system encompassing lean manufacturing, six sigma quality methods, and other tools and processes that drive profitable growth. From origins in manufacturing management, DBS has grown into a comprehensive and exceptionally versatile growth engine and is the heart and soul of the Danaher culture. All MBAs receive DBS training early and often throughout their careers.
If you are accepted into our General Management Development Program, you will be placed on a personal development track designed to bridge the gaps between your current experience and the experience needed for success as a General Manager. Every step of the way, you will be given job responsibilities that will challenge and stretch you, but for which you have shown yourself to be ready. You will also be able to take advantage of extraordinary flexibility in job assignments because of Danaher’s enormous variety of operating businesses around the world.
Danaher is a meritocracy, with minimal internal politics and strong incentives for outstanding performance. We offer competitive base salaries and significant performance-based compensation. We will also provide you with formal performance and development feedback every year, including an updated development plan to prepare you for future assignments while helping you improve your performance in your current assignment.
If you embrace DBS and use it to achieve superior results, you will be greatly rewarded over time.
Our MBA recruiting strategy targets exceptional talent intent on becoming P&L leaders. Our business needs and their desires have a very important common theme: an accelerated career path to General Management. To get high potentials ready to run businesses, we focus development assignments on commercial, operational, strategic and tactical leadership competencies.
COMMERCIAL: Expect a challenging business-to-business marketing assignment that includes product line planning, new product development, and competitive benchmarking, with particular emphasis on developing market segmentation and strategic planning skills as well as tactical execution in the marketplace.
OPERATIONAL: Expect to be given direct responsibility for manufacturing, materials, engineering, and quality in an environment emphasizing the development of leadership skills through stretch goals in quality, on-time delivery, and cost.
STRATEGIC: Expect to hone strategic planning skills while being involved with acquisition targeting, due diligence, and acquisition integration.
We are passionate about recruiting the best talent and work hard to find candidates that fit our culture and have the career aspirations and experience that meet our expectations. Our success profile is:
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?Do what it takes to win
?Time is the enemy – have a sense of urgency
?Be organized and manage your time effectively
?Get traction on the job quickly
?Be both tactical and strategic
?Pay attention to the details
?Drive continuous improvement
?Be hands on and know when to delegate
?Be a talent developer and exporter
?Create “followership”
If you fit this profile and seek an exciting career helping to build a Fortune 500 standout into a premier global enterprise, we urge you to investigate Danaher thoroughly. For more information, visit our website at www.danaher.com.

Target school

Domestic Schools:
Dartmouth - Tuck
Harvard Business School
Northwestern - Kellogg
UCLA - Anderson
University of Virginia - Darden

International Schools:
Tsingua
CEIBS
INSEAD
LBS

作者: sportmann 时间: 2011-7-7 12:01
关注。这些公司的LEADERSHIP DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM PAY的怎么样啊？

作者: bigjoe 时间: 2011-7-7 12:20
Medtronics

http://www.medtronic.com/careers/career-opportunities/international/index.htm

Leadership Development Rotation Program
Our Leadership Development Rotation Program (LDRP) is designed specifically for highly talented MBA candidates who have a strong desire to test the limits of their abilities and enhance their leadership potential. The LDRP puts you in the middle of the action – in strategic positions with frequent exposure to company leaders, core businesses, and technologies – where you can make meaningful contributions to the company and to the lives of patients worldwide.

Program Structure
?A 2-3 year program that consists of two 12-18 month assignments in two different geographic locations, providing you with a broad understanding of the company and in-depth functional experience
?Participation in a variety of rich developmental experiences to help you fulfill your personal and professional potential, including our functional and peer mentoring programs, functional training, and leadership workshops
?Opportunities to build a valuable network of peers, managers, and leaders across the company
Functional Tracks
Our program gives you the opportunity to develop your career in one of the following functional areas:

?Clinical
?Corporate Development
?Finance
?Human Resources
?Information Technology
?Marketing/Business Development
?Operations
?Regulatory
Assignment Locations
We offer LDRP assignments in a variety of locations throughout the world to help you develop a global mindset and build upon your appreciation for diverse insights and unique perspectives. Depending on our business needs, we offer opportunities in Minneapolis, MN; Danvers, MA; Jacksonville, FL; Memphis, TN; Miami, FL; Northridge, CA; Santa Rosa, CA; Heerlen, The Netherlands; Tokyo, Japan; and Tolochenaz, Switzerland.

Candidate Qualifications
We're looking for high potential MBA candidates who demonstrate strong communication and leadership skills and who are open to exploring a variety of assignments and business units.

Successful candidates must meet the following minimum qualifications:

?Three to five years of professional and relevant work experience
?MBA; other master's-level degrees are considered for Clinical, HR, Operations, and Regulatory tracks
?Highly mobile and willing to pursue different geographic opportunities
To be considered for the program, US-based program participants must be legally authorized to work in the United States on a full-time basis and must not require sponsorship in the future for an employment visa.

Application Process
We recruit at several top schools and diversity conferences to find bold thinkers who will help us push the boundaries of medical technology.

lease view our recruiting calendar or contact your career center to see when we'll be visiting your campus. If we don't recruit at your school, visit us at a diversity career fair or go to our US and Puerto Rico or our International Career Opportunities pages to find job listings in the areas that interest you.

Want to learn more about our MBA opportunities? Check out our employee stories to read about our exciting MBA careers.

Medtronic is committed to providing accessibility to employment opportunities for people with disabilities. If you need technical assistance with the on-line application process, please call Medtronic at (800) 328-2518 (toll free within the US) or (763) 514-4000 (worldwide).

Medtronic is an equal opportunity/affirmative action employer committed to cultural diversity in the workforce.

Last updated: 22 Sep 2010

http://www.medtronic.com/wcm/groups/mdtcom_sg/@mdt/@corp/documents/documents/career-schools-pdf.pdf

Target School:

United States:
Duke University Fuqua School of Business
Harvard Business School
Northwestern University Kellogg School of Management
Stanford Graduate School of Business
University of Michigan Ross School of Business
University of Minnesota Carlson School of Management
University of Pennsylvania The Wharton School
University of Virginia Darden School of Business

Europe:
Institut Européen d’Administration des Affaires (INSEAD)
Instituto de Estudios Superiores de la Empresa (IESE)
International Institute for Management Development (IMD)
London Business School (LBS)

作者: 兔子小二 时间: 2011-7-7 12:31
版主V5~

作者: simonwalker 时间: 2011-7-7 12:33
我知道的还有GE, General Mills, P&G, Cargill, Chevron
另外hi-tech里的公司像 Amazon, Microsoft, Apple, IBM, Cisco, Dell, HP虽然不叫leadership program但也有类似的招人体系

作者: bigjoe 时间: 2011-7-7 14:23
GE ECLP

http://www.geeclp.com/
http://www.ge.com/careers/students/eclp/china.html
http://eclpblog.com/

Watch NowProgram Summary
The Experienced Commercial Leadership Program (ECLP) prepares MBA graduates and experienced professionals for GE leadership roles in marketing and sales. The two-year rotational program offers opportunities for individuals to drive growth within a business, receive world-class commercial and leadership training, and be part of a global network of marketing and sales leaders. The ECLP program began in 2002 as part of our Chairman's commitment to grow GE's commercial pipeline and aims to position GE as the "gold standard in marketing".

Program Details
The ECLP program consists of three, eight-month rotational assignments within the marketing and sales functions of one of GE's businesses. For further details on the program, please click on the links below:

Recruiting & Hiring Process
Program Structure
Training
Leadership Opportunities
Evaluation
Career Progression
International Candidates
ECLP Spouse/Partners Network
Affinity Groups

Business Opportunities
ECLPs are hired into one of GE's many businesses. These businesses are aligned with GE's four verticals - GE Capital, Energy Infrastructure, Technology Infrastructure and NBC Universal. For more detail, see "What We Do" under Related Links. Business opportunities vary by region and will change depending on business need.

Candidate Criteria
All candidates must have unrestricted work authorization in the region into which they apply.

?MBA preferred (concentration in marketing)
?6-10 years of work experience with at least 5 years in sales or marketing in energy, healthcare, transportation, oil & gas, water process technology or aviation industries
?Multinational company work experience preferred
?Demonstrated leadership, communication and analytical skills
?Minimum 2 years of work experience in mainland China
?English and Mandarin language fluency required
?Only candidates with unrestricted work authorization for the specified country of posting will be considered
?Geographic mobility required
Please note that the ECLP recruiting, application and hiring process is specific to this region.

宣讲：
School On-Campus Date
Michigan (Ross) Sept 13 GE Day
October 12th - On-campus Interviews
Notre Dame (Mendoza) October 6th
USC (Marshall) October 7th (tentatively)
Duke (Fuqua) October 13th
Indiana (Kelley) October 13th
Northwestern (Kellogg) October 19th
NYU (Stern) October 20th
Texas (McCombs) October 21st
Cornell (Johnson) October 22nd
Columbia October 26th
North Carolina (Kenan-Flagler) October 26th

作者: bigjoe 时间: 2011-7-7 14:30
Cargill

http://www.cargill.com/careers/paths-programs/sbd-careers/index.jsp
Strategy and business
development careers
Seeking global leaders:
Opportunities for MBA graduates
The strategy and business development program within Cargill is one of the most exciting post-graduate leadership development experiences available. If you are selected amongst the best and the brightest, you will work on the most complex and compelling global issues that we face as a company.

Strategy and business development professionals work throughout Cargill's international businesses – in 67 countries and nearly 80 businesses. As a part of the program you will work in offices in Minneapolis, Minnesota, U.S., Belgium and Singapore.

Do you want to be rewarded with a mindset that prepares you to be among the best commercial business leaders in the world? If yes, we invite you to apply.

What we look for: Integrity, conviction and courage
Learning capacity Execution capacity Knowledge Behaviors
Curious - passion to learn more than taught Keen sense of priorities Deep and practical business acumen Discuss, decide, champion
Adaptable, nimble Relentless determination Macro economics and political trends Demonstrate respect, candor, commitment
Broad perspective Motivate for high performance and excellence Change leadership Develop and leverage customer knowledge and insights
Conceptual strength Develop others Value differences
Optimistic
Compelling/authentic communicator
Resilient

Want to know more?
Browse through our strategy and business development program details.
Meet a few of our analysts in the program

http://www.cargill.com/careers/paths-programs/sbd-careers/program-details/index.jsp

Strategy and business development program details
Are you ready for the journey?

Program focus
Strategy development Business development Capability building
Corporate strategy Mergers and acquisitions Talent development
Business unit strategy Integration program management Disseminating strategic thinking and business development skills
Corporate center process management Joint ventures and alliances Innovation
Customer solutions and marketing New business development
Supply chain

Program steps
1.Field assignment – 12 months
Gain immediate, hands-on responsibility in one of Cargill's operating businesses — the first step for most MBAs.2.Business analyst – 15-24 months
Consult, advise, evaluate, negotiate and explore while teaming with senior Cargill executives on a variety of strategy, mergers and acquisitions (M&A) and new business projects — another possible starting point, depending on your experience and interests.
3.Project team leadership – 12-18 months
(May move directly to step 4) Lead and coach high-performance project teams, hone advanced strategy and general management skills, while developing a worldwide network of personal and professional contacts — a unique opportunity for analysts with the track record and interest.

4.Frontline leadership
Your chance to join the leadership team and build one of Cargill's many businesses — or start a new one — anywhere in the world. Where you go depends on your interest and the kind of leader you want to be.

What will you do there? That depends on you: Your experience, your skills, and your track record. It all depends on you!

一些被录取的同学档案
http://www.cargill.com/careers/people/strategy-business-development/index.jsp

作者: bigjoe 时间: 2011-7-7 14:32
Chevron

http://careers.chevron.com/students/mba_student_programs/default.aspx

If you’re looking for a career where you can apply the skills you’ve learned while getting your degree and continuing to advance, look to Chevron. We have several programs geared specifically toward graduate students:

Finance M.B.A. Development Program
Human Resources Development Program
Gas and Midstream Commercial Skills Development Program
Procurement/Supply Chain M.B.A. Development Program
Procurement/Supply Chain M.B.A. Summer Internship Program
Global opportunities, comprehensive benefits and flexible policies create a workplace where you very well may want to spend your entire career.

Come explore what we can achieve together.

Finance M.B.A. Development ProgramSince 1946, Chevron’s Finance M.B.A. Development Program has successfully helped alumni accelerate their careers and advance to senior-level executive positions. You’ll gain practical and relevant work experience needed to develop into a future leader for our business.

Who We Hire
What You'll Do
Where You'll Work
How to Apply

Who We Hire
Ideal candidates:

Possess strong leadership potential.
Have three to six years pre-M.B.A. work experience.
Are interested in exploring a variety of business areas.
Have strong analytical skills.
Received an M.B.A. from a top school.
Are geographically mobile.
Have a permanent U.S. work authorization.
Candidates should have an M.B.A. in finance. Previous finance and industry experience is valuable but not required.

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What You'll Do
As a Chevron Finance M.B.A. Development Program participant, you’ll spend the first two years in the program in four rotational assignments, each lasting approximately six months. There is no pre-established sequence for your rotations. Instead, your assignments will be tailored to your interests and development areas, as well as to Chevron’s business needs. Your assignments might include work in four of the following areas:

Corporate Comptroller’s
Corporate Treasury
Corporate Strategic Planning
Global Upstream
Global Gas
Global Downstream
Corporate Audit
Credit
A full-time manager, who is also a program alumnus, coordinates the program. Your manager understands the full range of possible assignments and will work with you to tailor your assignments.

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Where You'll Work
Chevron Finance M.B.A. Development Program opportunities are available around the globe. Depending on your role, you may work in:

Houston, Texas
San Francisco Bay Area, California
Angola
Argentina
Australia
Brazil
Canada
Kazakhstan
Nigeria
Singapore
Thailand
United Kingdom
International exposure for future leaders of the company is critical, and you’ll likely complete one or more overseas assignments while in the program. If you’re interested, you’re encouraged to pursue transferring to global locations after you complete the program.

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How to Apply
Development program positions are generally posted in September. You can browse or search Chevron's open positions to determine if opportunities are currently available in a program of interest to you. To narrow your search, type MBA Development into the Keywords field and/or select the discipline of interest. If there are no results, check back again in the future.

You can also look for us on campus or at one of the professional conferences we attend. Take a look at our Events schedules to find out when we'll be in your area.

Finance M.B.A. Internships

M.B.A. “People in the Program”

Finance M.B.A. Development Program FAQs

一些Finance Leadership同学的档案：
http://careers.chevron.com/disciplines/index_of_disciplines/finance/rotational_assignments.aspx

作者: bigjoe 时间: 2011-7-7 14:33

我知道的还有GE, General Mills, P&G, Cargill, Chevron
另外hi-tech里的公司像 Amazon, Microsoft, Apple, IBM, Cisco, Dell, HP虽然不叫leadership program但也有类似的招人体系

-- by 会员 simonwalker (2011/7/7 12:33:37)

请问General Mills 和 P&G 是不是需要绿卡才有可能进？

作者: lakerfan123 时间: 2011-7-7 15:51
顶joe哥，好东西啊

作者: terry0603 时间: 2011-7-7 16:20
版主！威武！

作者: pursueMBA2010 时间: 2011-7-7 16:23
If in US, the pay is slightly less than/more than consulting.
If in China, the pay is definitely less than consulting.......about 70-80%.

If you are not from the core school, you don't know the recruitment information and can't find the portal to submit your application.

作者: 花花公子 时间: 2011-7-7 21:57

If in US, the pay is slightly less than/more than consulting.
If in China, the pay is definitely less than consulting.......about 70-80%.

-- by 会员 pursueMBA2010 (2011/7/7 16:23:33)

Which company are you talking about?Danaher?

作者: pursueMBA2010 时间: 2011-7-7 22:08
for most of them

作者: 花花公子 时间: 2011-7-7 22:12
太感谢版主了，一直想统计这方面的信息，没想到LZ这就帮大家都归纳好了
另外版主能否再说说除了jnj,Lily,Dupont,GE之外，还有哪些公司能work in china？Cargill被录取同学档案里有location在china的，但不知道是ratation回国还是怎样
Duke是很多公司的target school啊……另外Ross和Darden也不少，相反cornell就几乎没有了，tuck也居然没有？什么原因？？Cornell的Finance和Marketing都挺强的啊，还是Ivy school

作者: 花花公子 时间: 2011-7-7 22:16

我知道的还有GE, General Mills, P&G, Cargill, Chevron
另外hi-tech里的公司像 Amazon, Microsoft, Apple, IBM, Cisco, Dell, HP虽然不叫leadership program但也有类似的招人体系

-- by 会员 simonwalker (2011/7/7 12:33:37)

Pfizer,Dow Chemical也有。Cisco没绿卡不行

作者: balgirl 时间: 2011-7-8 00:12
版主V5！
这个信息相当有帮助！

作者: Ambro09 时间: 2011-7-8 03:52
Good job

作者: himici 时间: 2011-7-8 03:59
收了，谢谢

作者: mopton 时间: 2011-7-8 08:48
我知道Toyota，及若干房地产公司。最简单就是google leadership development program。

作者: huster 时间: 2011-7-8 09:18
相当给力的信息啊 coporate人民的福音啊期待更多太感谢了

作者: larrylw 时间: 2011-7-8 09:21
Joe的帖子见一次顶一次。很负责的版主。

作者: nordic1981 时间: 2011-7-8 09:43
这些公司的pay如何啊
大家交流交流吧

作者: 骚毛裤 时间: 2011-7-8 11:01
lz可以留意一下dow chemical和intel的这两家项目待遇极其优厚

作者: caomuruzhi 时间: 2011-7-8 12:33
关于Cornell:

我没太关注Corporate的recruiter,但有印象有在CMC内网上发布招聘的公司，在上面提到的这几家里基本都有来人，或者视频interview,或者公司出机票去面试：JNJ、Eli Lilly、Dupont、GE、Chevron、P&G、Amazon、Microsoft、Apple、IBM、Cisco、HP、Pfizer、Google。我是随便投的，拿到了JNJ、Eli Lilly、Corning, P&G、Microsoft、Citi、GE等各公司的面试。最后在general management 方面拿到了3个offer,虽然都没有去。另外多说两句，找工作还是应该focus，随便投之后面试不能不去，精力太分散，最后反而没有得到自己最想要的。

我的感觉是Cornell和Tuck的program总人数都很少，地理位置又太偏，所以一般公司不会专门把这些学校列成招生大户，但是肯定都是open door的。

太感谢版主了，一直想统计这方面的信息，没想到LZ这就帮大家都归纳好了
另外版主能否再说说除了jnj,Lily,Dupont,GE之外，还有哪些公司能work in china？Cargill被录取同学档案里有location在china的，但不知道是ratation回国还是怎样
Duke是很多公司的target school啊……另外Ross和Darden也不少，相反cornell就几乎没有了，tuck也居然没有？什么原因？？Cornell的Finance和Marketing都挺强的啊，还是Ivy school

-- by 会员花花公子 (2011/7/7 22:12:53)

作者: adaadaadalee 时间: 2011-7-8 20:46

希望有超过招聘内容的一些实质信息分享。比如三年后这些人中的大部分在什么位置。
大部分的program,进去以后就和公司体制融为一体，program结束以后找一个位置就各安天命。是否有上升途径全评各人networking能力。MBA的价值下降得很快。泯然众人矣！所谓program不过是公司官僚体制下HR的一个例行任务。
只有少数才真正把你当回事培养。待遇和事业在几年后仍然有上升空间。

-- by 会员 51xt (2011/7/8 16:11:03)

+1，很多项目最后都这样，不管是大学毕业还是mba毕业

作者: pursueMBA2010 时间: 2011-7-8 21:57

-- by 会员 51xt (2011/7/8 16:11:03)

+1，很多项目最后都这样，不管是大学毕业还是mba毕业

-- by 会员 adaadaadalee (2011/7/8 20:46:39)

I don't think any MBA graduate can share this information with you. For one thing, most of them don't want; for the other, they are not able to do.

作者: tianya111 时间: 2011-7-8 22:59
作为一个从上述某家公司的leadership program出来的pre-MBA，想跟大家分享的是，不管你进到了哪家公司，2年后你的位置在哪儿主要取决于你在roatation中的表现、pre MBA的经验、个人的network和结束program的opening，跟你的学校是哪儿关系不大。至于说到是不是“官僚体制下HR的一个例行任务”，well，我想说的是，yes or no.

这些leadership program的价值在于，给你打开机会窗，让你跟部门和公司的高层有互动，通过接触不同部门不同的工种去发现自己擅长和喜欢的领域。其实，在任何一家大的外企，最终走多远更多靠的是个人的performance和network，MBA的作用并不大的。

比如，我会很难想象，一个HSW毕业的、完全没有行业经验、只会做些pitch空谈战略的MBA能比那些扎扎实实每年贡献number的leader走得更快更远。但是，相反，如果你有很扎实的行业背景，那么off program后应该会走得比较快。

在industry，MBA更被value的部门是in house BD/M&A/consulting/,investmentarm, business planning, 以及marketing部门。这种工作有consulting和banking的乐趣，pay也不低，工作也不那么辛苦，但是机会往往不多，而且要人也非常挑。听认识的一个猎头曾经说过，一个前BCGerWharton毕业后，宁愿拿consulting打对折的工资去F500的BD部门，但是都不得其门。因为位置太少。

从中国人来说，我觉得off program在总部待一阵回国可能更有价值。对于那些pre MBA没有这些行业或者企业经验的人，这个program则能够让你拥有brand name公司的经验、背景和人脉。以后要转行去做PE或者VC应该比单纯的投行和咨询背景更有优势。

如果是单纯为了pay，那么算好小时工资和年薪的帐再考虑要不要申请。咨询和投行在职业生涯的不同阶段，一样能进我说的那些部门，只不过机会窗未必在那儿。因为位置的确不多。

作者: tianya111 时间: 2011-7-8 23:56
ls，没有人能够回答你的问题，因为没有人能做到亲身去体会不同公司的program，从而给出完整全面的回答。

我所在的program，曾数次被美某著名财经杂志评为“the best leadership program”。公司的说法是人头的培训费用是50万美金。有两次在纽约培训，是CEO亲自从downtown 坐直升飞机过来给大家做presentation。除了课堂培训，我觉得很有收获的是公司各大部门头头脑脑，给大家做的很多讲座。技能的培训都在其次，所谓的CEO perspective倒的确是在潜移默化中发生的。那些他们一路做上来的故事也非常的鲜活和有启发性。roatation的质量有的非常好，有的just so so，也要看你自己是不是够主动，有initiative。我自己做的一个项目是CEO sponsor的，不但要带内部的团队，同时和国家相关部门以及地方政府配合、互动非常多。期间因为工作很忙，甚至两度推后了GMAT考试。但是从中我学到了很多东西。而最终项目的意义和影响也非常不错。有的同事，做的项目也是公司战略级层面的项目。

你应该在corporate做吧，其实可以从自己的公司去了解很多信息的。另外，我觉得你对这些porgram或者大外企的要求有点求全责备了吧。对promote from within的industry来说，MBA其实算不上一根葱。而MBA本来也不是。

作者: 花花公子 时间: 2011-7-9 00:24
这些programme几年后的pay会是怎么样，有人能说说吗？不要只关注起薪，那样很没有意义

另外发展空间其实真的重要的多，混的职位高了，pay自然不会少，相反永远徘徊在低层级pay再多也有限。

作者: pursueMBA2010 时间: 2011-7-9 00:37
I don't think internal BD department is so promising because, generally, it is no a core department. This department which doesn't control P&L often looks like very shining but holds weak power inside a company.
Consultants prefer to jump into that department is just because this is the only department that opens door for most consultants.
for example, for a EM in McK, which position is more attractive(generally) to catch: strategy head or BU head? I guess the latter

作者: pursueMBA2010 时间: 2011-7-9 00:59

只是想知道哪家的program
1. rotation效果更好，因为很多rotation就是把你当assistant使，培训跟不上（因为很多在基层），美其名曰 on-job training. 即使在总部有的也未必有很好的培训机制。

2. program结束两年后相对还有比较好的跟踪，保证发展，而不是基本自生自灭。（当然少数人也可以混得很好）

3. 从pay上能够体现你以前的experience的价值，而不是从较低水平起步。例如pre MBA年薪8-9W, 毕业参加这种leadership program是否合适呢，或者哪家的比较合适的呢。

4. 笔试面试这种program的经验。

-- by 会员 51xt (2011/7/8 23:20:34)

You can interview the alumni in that program and look for successful cases.
Basically, if there are several successful cases(the more, the better), it at least means that the program has good structure and offers candidates opportunities. That is fine.

作者: tianya111 时间: 2011-7-9 01:15

I don't think internal BD department is so promising because, generally, it is no a core department. This department which doesn't control P&L often looks like very shining but holds weak power inside a company.
Consultants prefer to jump into that department is just because this is the only department that opens door for most consultants.
for example, for a EM in McK, which position is more attractive(generally) to catch: strategy head or BU head? I guess the latter

-- by 会员 pursueMBA2010 (2011/7/9 0:37:35)

To my knowledge, the internal BD department has very solid exposure opportunity to high level executives. And the job is interesting. Yet it really depends on people as each may have quite different aspirations/pursuits.
For an EM from McK, the BU head position definitely is more appealing, but I really doubt he/she has prepared enough for this post and whether an industry corporate would offer such a position to a consultant with comparatively less domain expertise or sense. His/her skill sets honed might be ok to a B2C company(FMCG, food, beverage etc ), but for a B2B company, it is totally another story.
I guess corporate value consulting experience less in China than in US.

作者: dingxiang 时间: 2011-7-9 01:36
不错，帮顶。
前面的同学说得很好。我感觉美国的公司相对来说还非常重视管理和策略研究（当然执行力是另外一个big question）所以大部分公司都舍得花这钱搞这样的项目，名称和scope不同，另外在公司的重视度也不一样。整个招聘流程也是有的严谨，有的马虎。

但是, again，企业界不比IB, consulting，IB 需要能吃苦，consulting需要能吹会卖。企业界他们需要的是实打实的相关工作经验, mba is a plus, not a must，尤其是对于国际学生，即使进了program，你的deliverable很多时候并非来自mba所学，而是其他方面。

作者: pursueMBA2010 时间: 2011-7-9 04:27

-- by 会员 pursueMBA2010 (2011/7/9 0:37:35)

-- by 会员 tianya111 (2011/7/9 1:15:39)

In the state, probably yes; but in EU and China, not really.
I witness many ex-consultant(might be not many but a few), who are taking high positions in strategy office currently, are struggling for switching to manage huge P&L. But, agree with you partial, it depends. It varies individual by individual.
All in all, consulting offers a relative guaranteed path; but leadership programs really depend(in many cases, it depends on senior individuals like CEO, HR VP.....etc)

作者: tianya111 时间: 2011-7-9 09:02

-- by 会员 pursueMBA2010 (2011/7/9 0:37:35)

-- by 会员 tianya111 (2011/7/9 1:15:39)

-- by 会员 pursueMBA2010 (2011/7/9 4:27:12)

The reason why many ex-consultants are chasing BU leader positions managing huge P&L is that they probably know, after years of being consultants in "strategy" houses, what the hardcore of consulting business is. In any F500, a promising upward way is being a BU manager, while in many respects, corporate BD is a good job, especially in terms of the fun of the work and life-work balance.

Neither consulting nor leadership program will guarantee anything. It's up to you in the end. The former guarantees even less. In EU and China especially, most high level leaders moved to their posts by outstanding performances of pushing sales numbers. Will consulting job equip you well in a sales position? It is over-rated too. In many corporate executives' eyes, a consultant from McK is smart, but do they really value his work much? In many cases, NO.

作者: Blahnik 时间: 2011-7-9 12:00

-- by 会员 pursueMBA2010 (2011/7/9 0:37:35)

-- by 会员 tianya111 (2011/7/9 1:15:39)

-- by 会员 pursueMBA2010 (2011/7/9 4:27:12)

-- by 会员 tianya111 (2011/7/9 9:02:45)

呃。。。最后一句，就一词：Exactly.

作者: 花花公子 时间: 2011-7-9 15:22
我的concern是，比如我MBA的concentration是Marketing，那么我花100万在MBA中学到的知识到底对我的工作有多大帮助，即多大程度上帮我improve performance by boosting sales,而不仅仅是给我一个top mba的招牌，以及500强大公司的面试机会。

作者: pursueMBA2010 时间: 2011-7-9 22:08
对啊.......BD推销他的strategy,根本上还是要影响那些有实权的决策者
而且说白了,在公司里不管钱不管人,要出头太难.
成功案例当然也有,只是比较少;很多就是做个director, senior director甚至VP,但只能混着;不过也没啥不好,钱管够用也不那么累,只要没有那么大野心,我觉得不错

咱们也不用在这里互相摆事实讲道理尝试说服别人
都要读或者已经读MBA了,都很有主见,如果随意能被说服以后也不大可能做leader了:-)

要想知道第一手资料,直接去目标公司social去问insider,即使是MBA毕业生也没法对公司的情况说的很清楚的

作者: tianya111 时间: 2011-7-9 22:48

我的concern是，比如我MBA的concentration是Marketing，那么我花100万在MBA中学到的知识到底对我的工作有多大帮助，即多大程度上帮我improve performance by boosting sales,而不仅仅是给我一个top mba的招牌，以及500强大公司的面试机会。

-- by 会员花花公子 (2011/7/9 15:22:14)

MBA的价值很大程度上就体现在你说的这两点上（招聘会门票的价值对想转咨询投行的同志更重要），还有一个就是校友网络
至于能学到多少，要看你的背景是什么，然后自己的用心程度
我不认为MBA对你boost sales有多大直接的帮助

作者: tianya111 时间: 2011-7-9 22:55

对啊.......BD推销他的strategy,根本上还是要影响那些有实权的决策者
而且说白了,在公司里不管钱不管人,要出头太难.
成功案例当然也有,只是比较少;很多就是做个director, senior director甚至VP,但只能混着;不过也没啥不好,钱管够用也不那么累,只要没有那么大野心,我觉得不错

咱们也不用在这里互相摆事实讲道理尝试说服别人
都要读或者已经读MBA了,都很有主见,如果随意能被说服以后也不大可能做leader了:-)

要想知道第一手资料,直接去目标公司social去问insider,即使是MBA毕业生也没法对公司的情况说的很清楚的

-- by 会员 pursueMBA2010 (2011/7/9 22:08:32)

要想升迁得快，连续两三年销售翻番，是最直接的，但这些不是MBA课堂可以带来的
前面的话题是MBA的leadership program适合在coporate做什么，个人觉得就是BD了。这个工种是不是好，不是我们前面所讨论的。在体制内做个写写报告的文官，其实也不错。F500，本质上和国企没啥大的差别。

作者: tianya111 时间: 2011-7-9 22:58

就我观察到的BD比较负面的一点是，技术上（战略/模型等）你是经验丰富的专家，但是你没有或只有个别下属，天天和一群不是专家，甚至在这些方面是外行，但是比你职位高，比你有实权，同时对于公司内部运作和某相关具体产品和具体市场比你有经验的人打交道。这种跨领域的合作不同于投行/咨询公司里的内部合作，也不同于投行咨询与客户之间打交道，有一种夹生饼的感觉，很多人感觉并不好。

-- by 会员 51xt (2011/7/9 21:42:27)

其实，哪又有perfect的job呢？想冲事业，想体现自身价值，创业或把一家民企由小做大才更体现能力，也带来真正的成就感。
MBA不是灵丹妙药，不是天之骄子，只是一种职业教育和路径选择而已。

作者: pursueMBA2010 时间: 2011-7-11 01:35
私下问校友和知心朋友吧
你问的很多信息很敏感,public非常不合适

作者: tianya111 时间: 2011-7-11 02:06
价值这个问题，看你怎么看了。咨询公司不会比客户更懂行业的，很多时候就是为了证明对方老大的正确，story line都是顺着客户的意思写的。这在双方都是心照不宣的。从钱来说，这儿多少人趋之若鹜的IBD也不算是投行最好的部门。
其实呢，我并没有说leadership program一定好。而且每个人定义的“好”是不一样的。收入高但是累得像牛像马无暇照顾家人好不好？工作轻松但是package不高好不好？见仁见智的。所谓东邻之珠玉，于我却如瓦砾。列出corporate的那几个部门，我是为了想说明这几个部门，会更看重MBA的学位，对工作技能的要求也相对更适合读了商学院的人，而并不是想强调这些部门更好。

加入“巨牛”的项目的说法是让我深深汗颜了。我参加那个program并不是为了想在corporate寻求发展。我加入只是为了学习不同行业的经验，以及了解最好的美国公司和在外企里最优秀的leader是什么样的。我的长期目标是投资，这种阅历和经验在我看来是绝对必要的。

但是，客观地讲，从hard skill还是soft skill来说，我还是学到了不少东西的。有些leader的水平也是很高的，跟他们共事的经历，他们的分享让我受益很多。而这些都是我事先不曾设想到的。

其实，不管什么样的工作，到最后，It's all about YOU, YOU an YOU. 我没有任何行业经验，也不是MBA，却也进了这个program。我自己并不牛，却也make it happen。

Package的话，我在的那家公司，对北美的fresh MBA来说，base大概10刀左右，有的业务部门可能会更高一点。另外有sign-on bonus。有行业经验或者公司内部promote的人多少又不一样。off program可以跟你要去的部门重新谈package。我知道performance好的有增加70%的，但是这些取决于人家觉得你是不是真值这个价。每届各个M7学校的MBA都有。培训很多，定期在美国和欧洲有集中培训，有在国外6-12个月的轮岗。placement要看off program的机会，opening和自己network的能力。出来后有发展得很好的，但是大多集中在美国或者欧洲。这个项目毕业3年（5年？）后的流失率是45%左右，是类似program中最低的。

是不是适合我觉得取决于你的生活目标。想在industry做的，这种program应该还是不错的。相对稳定，生活工作平衡也不错。公司大，认识的人多，即使部门裁人也可以在其它业务部门找位置。不像IBD，一旦市场不好了，人人都惶惶不可终日。总之，对于F500这样类国企的大机构不用指望公司会长久关注一个人。另外，对于有比较丰富工作经验的同志来说，也不要太高估MBA这个学历给你职业生涯带来的质变（MBA的圈子和校友资源是可能的）。个人的一个建议是，去那些历史悠久的program，因为这样你得到来自高层提拔和关注的机会会大不少。

作者: m1nt 时间: 2011-7-11 10:17
一堆卖药卖器械的，唉

作者: 花花公子 时间: 2011-7-11 12:03
从长期来看，做corporate的Pay是否有可能接近甚至追上IB/MC的人？

作者: cherrypeng2010 时间: 2011-7-11 12:27
Corporate与IB/MC的lifestyle有很大差距，光比较工资意义不大。我LG曾经在corporate leadership program与MC之间选择了MC，很巧的是那家corporate和他现在在的MC公司在一栋大楼上班，每当他看到对方公司参加leadership program的校友能准时下班回家而自己吃好晚饭还要继续工作至凌晨的时候，不禁感叹这就是人生不一样的选择，看你自己更加value那种工作及生活方式。
而且，从我看到的来说，MC（对IB不太了解没有发言权）做时间长的人很少，很多MC的朋友在有合适机会的时候纷纷转到各个corporate去了，从这个角度来看MC和corporate有点殊途同归的感觉

作者: audreychenjj 时间: 2011-7-11 12:42

我知道的还有GE, General Mills, P&G, Cargill, Chevron
另外hi-tech里的公司像 Amazon, Microsoft, Apple, IBM, Cisco, Dell, HP虽然不叫leadership program但也有类似的招人体系

-- by 会员 simonwalker (2011/7/7 12:33:37)

Pfizer,Dow Chemical也有。Cisco没绿卡不行

-- by 会员花花公子 (2011/7/7 22:16:38)

Cisco的HRLP就给办H1B, 规矩是规矩, 总有例外. 还是看个人.

作者: windmaple 时间: 2011-7-11 13:06
> 咨询公司不会比客户更懂行业的，很多时候就是为了证明对方老大的正确，story line都是顺着客户的意思写的

bingo

忘了从哪儿看到的了（可能是vault），MC存在很大意义上是因为politics。senior management有时候也害怕啊，if I make the wrong call, I'll be the fall guy; but if McKinsey 'approves' it, then nobody will be blamed ....

作者: 花花公子 时间: 2011-7-11 15:00

我不认为MBA对你boost sales有多大直接的帮助

-- by 会员 tianya111 (2011/7/9 22:48:22)

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MBA课堂上学到的理论/案例对实际工作没什么帮助吗？

作者: pursueMBA2010 时间: 2011-7-11 16:56

从长期来看，做corporate的Pay是否有可能接近甚至追上IB/MC的人？

-- by 会员花花公子 (2011/7/11 12:03:14)

Compared with MC, possible. at least to high leverl, there is a small gap but is acceptable(like 15%-30%).
For IB, impossible unless you get many stock options and performance of your company is excellent

作者: pursueMBA2010 时间: 2011-7-11 16:57

Corporate与IB/MC的lifestyle有很大差距，光比较工资意义不大。我LG曾经在corporate leadership program与MC之间选择了MC，很巧的是那家corporate和他现在在的MC公司在一栋大楼上班，每当他看到对方公司参加leadership program的校友能准时下班回家而自己吃好晚饭还要继续工作至凌晨的时候，不禁感叹这就是人生不一样的选择，看你自己更加value那种工作及生活方式。
而且，从我看到的来说，MC（对IB不太了解没有发言权）做时间长的人很少，很多MC的朋友在有合适机会的时候纷纷转到各个corporate去了，从这个角度来看MC和corporate有点殊途同归的感觉

-- by 会员 cherrypeng2010 (2011/7/11 12:27:51)

Can't agree more. Except a few ex-consultant who jump to IB/PE, exits of most consultant are strategy office/BD in corporate

作者: 花花公子 时间: 2011-7-11 17:00
以上这些programme要做到什么职位才有百万年薪？director?

作者: tianya111 时间: 2011-7-11 22:35
楼上，如果只是片面地关心薪酬而不是更多地去考虑自己能力的提升以及真正给公司创造的价值，没什么意义。

作者: 花花公子 时间: 2011-7-11 23:24
版主，我只是看反正就这个话题聊开了，就顺便问问，了解比较一下。你看我#43 和#57 楼的发言就知道我关不关注能力的提升和对公司价值的贡献了

作者: grant886 时间: 2011-7-12 09:54
mark, 这篇文章应该加精啊，望有信息的朋友能做出贡献，哪怕介绍一个program也好啊，对新人帮助很大！

作者: larrylw 时间: 2011-7-12 10:50

> 咨询公司不会比客户更懂行业的，很多时候就是为了证明对方老大的正确，story line都是顺着客户的意思写的

bingo

+1
我已经看到过不少活生生的例子了，当然这是在中国。

作者: stevenhu 时间: 2011-7-12 17:40

lz可以留意一下dow chemical和intel的这两家项目待遇极其优厚

-- by 会员骚毛裤 (2011/7/8 11:01:42)

嗯的确
Intel ALP(Finance): Base pay: 117500
Signing Bonus: 20000
Variable Bonus:25000
Stock Option: 1000RSUs

作者: pursueMBA2010 时间: 2011-7-12 17:46
Intel's program is only for US green card holders and citizen(no exceptional case at all, as I know).
For an exact Chinese, you can focus on other programs

作者: summit 时间: 2011-7-12 22:47
J版真行！
顶一个。

作者: 花花公子 时间: 2011-7-13 10:15

lz可以留意一下dow chemical和intel的这两家项目待遇极其优厚

-- by 会员骚毛裤 (2011/7/8 11:01:42)

嗯的确
Intel ALP(Finance): Base pay: 117500
Signing Bonus: 20000
Variable Bonus:25000
Stock Option: 1000RSUs

-- by 会员 stevenhu (2011/7/12 17:40:54)

如果在国内也能拿这个数就相当棒了~可惜这是不可能的

作者: zhyyts 时间: 2011-7-14 02:37

lz可以留意一下dow chemical和intel的这两家项目待遇极其优厚

-- by 会员骚毛裤 (2011/7/8 11:01:42)

嗯的确
Intel ALP(Finance): Base pay: 117500
Signing Bonus: 20000
Variable Bonus:25000
Stock Option: 1000RSUs

-- by 会员 stevenhu (2011/7/12 17:40:54)

sigh...真的也不算高。。。这个是fixed的，还是根据experience会有浮动？

作者: windmaple 时间: 2011-7-14 06:15
> 山西煤老板的月薪高

煤老板还靠月薪？LOL

作者: tianya111 时间: 2011-7-14 07:55
本帖加精华，感谢big joe同学的劳动！

作者: bigjoe 时间: 2011-7-14 11:41
谢谢T版~~我向来抛砖引玉阿，后面同学们的回帖讨论很有价值！

作者: pursueMBA2010 时间: 2011-7-14 23:32
There is a CFO program in Siemens as well. Very decent program.

Nokia's program is fine as well but given the terrible business of that company, it is not a good option, at least for graduate in 2012 and 2013

作者: xiaowangwang 时间: 2011-8-31 08:52
IBM supply chain的就有，是2年的，可惜这两年经济动荡，这个program的条件/rotation安排等也都在变化，倒是不知道有没有什么target school

作者: tracy2009 时间: 2012-3-28 14:06
如果通过MBA 跳到 IB，做到VP（貌似IB是最容易做到VP的？），然后再跳回corporate, 变成SVP，是不是一条捷径呢？

作者: 骚毛裤 时间: 2012-3-29 08:40

如果通过MBA 跳到 IB，做到VP（貌似IB是最容易做到VP的？），然后再跳回corporate, 变成SVP，是不是一条捷径呢？

-- by 会员 tracy2009 (2012/3/28 14:06:19)

职位结构不一样，不等同的。IB VP跳到企业很多都是从manager开始

作者: carbonzju 时间: 2012-3-29 13:24
好帖等我过段时间来clarify

作者: bigjoe 时间: 2012-6-20 22:21
Liberty Mutual Corporate Development Program

这个项目招中国人在中国和美国之间轮岗2-3年，然后locate在中国。

http://www.libertymutualgroup.com/omapps/ContentServer?pagename=LMGroup/Views/LMG&ft=5&fid=1138356792452&ln=en

Does a career in General Management, Finance or International Operations sound interesting to you? Do you have at least 3-4+ years of professional experience? If you answered yes to the questions above, consider Liberty Mutual’s Corporate Development Program (CDP) where you can build on your strengths, accelerate your career and take on immediate responsibility in strategic areas of a Fortune 100 business.
As a CDP, you will participate in an individualized rotational development program that gives you:
Broad experience through four, 6-month assignments across functional areas in field operations, strategic business units, or corporate departments. Each role will build on your experience, interests and strengths.
In the general management program, these will be across functional areas in field operations, strategic business units, or corporate departments. Each role will build on your experience, interests and strengths.
In the finance track you will work in either our corporate departments or our business groups gaining hands on experience in our financial operations.
Immediate responsibility. Each assignment brings business value to Liberty Mutual.
Continuous interaction with your sponsor who ensures that each rotation consists of challenging, strategic assignments with a focus on individualized growth.
After the program, you and your sponsor will identify post-program opportunities at Liberty Mutual that will continue to challenge and develop you.
International opportunities are also available in China, Brazil, Colombia, Poland and Turkey. International assignments are based on business needs.
Interested? Click here to search for current opportunities.

Target School: 网站上没有说，据我自己观察大概是Top30+BU/BC

作者: fidelityfish 时间: 2012-6-21 08:23
这项目不错起薪和工作时间平衡得挺不错可惜就是最终还是派回国

Liberty Mutual Corporate Development Program

这个项目招中国人在中国和美国之间轮岗2-3年，然后locate在中国。

http://www.libertymutualgroup.com/omapps/ContentServer?pagename=LMGroup/Views/LMG&ft=5&fid=1138356792452&ln=en

Does a career in General Management, Finance or International Operations sound interesting to you? Do you have at least 3-4+ years of professional experience? If you answered yes to the questions above, consider Liberty Mutual’s Corporate Development Program (CDP) where you can build on your strengths, accelerate your career and take on immediate responsibility in strategic areas of a Fortune 100 business.
As a CDP, you will participate in an individualized rotational development program that gives you:
Broad experience through four, 6-month assignments across functional areas in field operations, strategic business units, or corporate departments. Each role will build on your experience, interests and strengths.
In the general management program, these will be across functional areas in field operations, strategic business units, or corporate departments. Each role will build on your experience, interests and strengths.
In the finance track you will work in either our corporate departments or our business groups gaining hands on experience in our financial operations.
Immediate responsibility. Each assignment brings business value to Liberty Mutual.
Continuous interaction with your sponsor who ensures that each rotation consists of challenging, strategic assignments with a focus on individualized growth.
After the program, you and your sponsor will identify post-program opportunities at Liberty Mutual that will continue to challenge and develop you.
International opportunities are also available in China, Brazil, Colombia, Poland and Turkey. International assignments are based on business needs.
Interested? Click here to search for current opportunities.

Target School: 网站上没有说，据我自己观察大概是Top30+BU/BC

-- by 会员 bigjoe (2012/6/20 22:21:47)

作者: feifairy 时间: 2012-6-21 11:30
绝对好帖呀~
可看来看去都是要在MBA前工作3-5年的，我这个工作2年去读MBA的看来要悲剧了呀~~

作者: xpssherry 时间: 2012-6-25 10:40
标题: very good information, thanks all for the sharing
Ru Ti

作者: DTTSM 时间: 2012-8-21 00:15
请问楼主
1.大龄的MBA毕业生进这些项目有没有优势呢？当时觉得MBA Program的上升空间> being directly hired as an experienced.
2.你觉得如果在相关行业已经有了10+的工作经验，能通过此类项目Benefits到什么呢？

Thanks lot!!!

作者: bigjoe 时间: 2012-8-21 02:16

请问楼主
1.大龄的MBA毕业生进这些项目有没有优势呢？当时觉得MBA Program的上升空间> being directly hired as an experienced.
2.你觉得如果在相关行业已经有了10+的工作经验，能通过此类项目Benefits到什么呢？

Thanks lot!!!

-- by 会员 DTTSM (2012/8/21 0:15:16)

1.大龄有优势
2.或许有更快的发展路径。但是这个事情是因人而异的，因为如果你已经发展很好，有很不错的空间，那建议不要读MBA了，机会成本耗不起。

作者: yoshimihoku 时间: 2012-8-21 06:46
Danaher见过，确实是做医疗器械的。要求巨高，只招HBS。

Medtronic的只招美国人。个人认为我的intern project present属于所有MBA LDRP associate中相当突出的，还是没有机会，只能走direct hire。但我知道Medtronic国内有rotation program，但和北美这个相当不一样，具体的没有了解，也许官网上有。

Liberty Mutual像是广撒网，好像没有什么明显的target school呢。说rotation pay不错的，至少10万+，前2年。之后回国也很不错至少70w-80w+吧好像。不过intern审查严格，今年夏天6个中国人，只有3个拿到了fulltime interview opportunity，也就是说另外3个都被唰掉了。

Eli Lilly往年intern在北美做，full-time回国，从今年起连intern都是在国内做了

我想说，北美industry大公司，几乎全部都有leadership program。但好或不好众说纷纭。有说好就好在给了多点exposure，可以接着LDRP的幌子多找人聊聊拓宽network。但具体做的project，也许1年半一个rotation，变更数次或取消，也许也能向tianya那样相当出彩，但听起来更多看运气了。
另外leadership program普遍岗位能比direct hire高一点。direct hire（尤其是大公司），一般都是specialist，leadership至少上手就是senior specialist，毕业后没准就是manager。小公司一般direct hire就是manager或associate manager的了。所以leadership普遍应该pay比direct hire要好吧。但LDRP工资没得negotiate，所以你之前工作年限长，其实挺不划算的，因为拿的是跟其他junior MBA一样的pay

不过很重要的一点~~~金融危机后，基本大公司rotation都只招美国人了~~~唉~~~~

作者: lixin1112001 时间: 2012-8-22 00:05
Fortune 500的公司这种Leadership Program很多也是内部招聘可以参加的，所以机会就更少了，还是那句话，职业发展目标是industry的，还是一直在corporate的比较好，当然也可以走industry---MBA---Consulting---industry的路线。

作者: ray518ray 时间: 2012-8-22 09:46
谢谢yoshimihoku的分享：）

作者: yoshimihoku 时间: 2012-8-22 12:58
另外，大龄的劣势是，即使你工作经验比别人多（一般leadership program招3-5年），所以你如果6-8年，机会面临起薪个他们一眼的尴尬局面。。。

当然，如果你确定rotation这2、3年outstanding，固然好。不然我自己觉得有点小浪费的

作者: bigjoe 时间: 2012-10-14 02:41
Amazon China - Senior Business Manager (MBA) - China Consumer Leadership Development Program (CCLDP)

http://campus.51job.com/amazon/mba.htm

Senior Business Manager (MBA)
Amazon is growing and Amazon is growing fast in the most dynamic market on earth. We need nimble leaders who move fast, are capable of breaking down and solving complex problems, and have a strong will to get things done. The China program is a rotational opportunity to develop China leaders by putting them on a fast track career path. Incoming MBAs are given ownership of large, important areas of opportunity; the autonomy to think strategically and make decisions; and the ability to drive significant impact on the customer experience. Amazon is seeking to hire and develop leaders who have the capability to grow into senior general managers who run large business segments.

New MBAs in our China Consumer Leadership Development Program (CCLDP) enter a three-year multi-functional rotation program. Examples of rotation assignments include managing revenue/profits for a set of products or sub-category, optimizing supply chain, negotiating for improved business terms, defining/developing new products, building new marketing initiatives and managing the merchant business growth. Initial rotation placement is based on each candidate’s previous experience as well as his or her career interests. Ultimately, the goal of the program is to build strong general managers capable of leading large, complex organizations and businesses.

All of these roles require the same Amazonian DNA: a bias for action; customer-centricity; flexibility; analytics; and the drive to own, build, and grow.

Basic qualifications:

MBA is required
3+ years of work experience prior to your MBA including academic and/or internship experience
Complete business fluency in Mandarin and English

Preferred qualifications:

Proof that you are capable of both high-level strategic thinking and detailed execution
Proven track record of taking ownership and driving results
Superior analytical skills
Exceptional interpersonal and communication skills (both written and verbal)
Success at influencing others and leading teams
Comfortable with “hands-on” management of tasks, and proven ability to manage multiple, competing priorities simultaneously

In addition to submitting your resume and cover letter to your career center, apply online at http://www.amazon.cn/careers to be considered for an interview. Look up for the Job #: XXXXXX.
Email Mailer: China-MBA@amazon.com

作者: fidelityfish 时间: 2012-10-14 03:26
不知道amazon中国项目难度和待遇如何？美国项目堪比google，fb啊

Amazon China - Senior Business Manager (MBA) - China Consumer Leadership Development Program (CCLDP)

http://campus.51job.com/amazon/mba.htm

Senior Business Manager (MBA)
Amazon is growing and Amazon is growing fast in the most dynamic market on earth. We need nimble leaders who move fast, are capable of breaking down and solving complex problems, and have a strong will to get things done. The China program is a rotational opportunity to develop China leaders by putting them on a fast track career path. Incoming MBAs are given ownership of large, important areas of opportunity; the autonomy to think strategically and make decisions; and the ability to drive significant impact on the customer experience. Amazon is seeking to hire and develop leaders who have the capability to grow into senior general managers who run large business segments.

New MBAs in our China Consumer Leadership Development Program (CCLDP) enter a three-year multi-functional rotation program. Examples of rotation assignments include managing revenue/profits for a set of products or sub-category, optimizing supply chain, negotiating for improved business terms, defining/developing new products, building new marketing initiatives and managing the merchant business growth. Initial rotation placement is based on each candidate’s previous experience as well as his or her career interests. Ultimately, the goal of the program is to build strong general managers capable of leading large, complex organizations and businesses.

All of these roles require the same Amazonian DNA: a bias for action; customer-centricity; flexibility; analytics; and the drive to own, build, and grow.

Basic qualifications:

MBA is required
3+ years of work experience prior to your MBA including academic and/or internship experience
Complete business fluency in Mandarin and English

Preferred qualifications:

Proof that you are capable of both high-level strategic thinking and detailed execution
Proven track record of taking ownership and driving results
Superior analytical skills
Exceptional interpersonal and communication skills (both written and verbal)
Success at influencing others and leading teams
Comfortable with “hands-on” management of tasks, and proven ability to manage multiple, competing priorities simultaneously

In addition to submitting your resume and cover letter to your career center, apply online at http://www.amazon.cn/careers to be considered for an interview. Look up for the Job #: XXXXXX.
Email Mailer: China-MBA@amazon.com

-- by 会员 bigjoe (2012/10/14 2:41:01)

作者: 爱神 时间: 2012-10-14 04:30
tianya的项目很好吗？
反正我知道北美的Top MBA学生都不是很看重这个项目，比起JnJ这种都不如。
回国的薪水就差得更远，几乎招不到人。
当然读MBA之前就能进去镀金，也算是人才了。

Danaher见过，确实是做医疗器械的。要求巨高，只招HBS。

Medtronic的只招美国人。个人认为我的intern project present属于所有MBA LDRP associate中相当突出的，还是没有机会，只能走direct hire。但我知道Medtronic国内有rotation program，但和北美这个相当不一样，具体的没有了解，也许官网上有。

Liberty Mutual像是广撒网，好像没有什么明显的target school呢。说rotation pay不错的，至少10万+，前2年。之后回国也很不错至少70w-80w+吧好像。不过intern审查严格，今年夏天6个中国人，只有3个拿到了fulltime interview opportunity，也就是说另外3个都被唰掉了。

Eli Lilly往年intern在北美做，full-time回国，从今年起连intern都是在国内做了

我想说，北美industry大公司，几乎全部都有leadership program。但好或不好众说纷纭。有说好就好在给了多点exposure，可以接着LDRP的幌子多找人聊聊拓宽network。但具体做的project，也许1年半一个rotation，变更数次或取消，也许也能向tianya那样相当出彩，但听起来更多看运气了。
另外leadership program普遍岗位能比direct hire高一点。direct hire（尤其是大公司），一般都是specialist，leadership至少上手就是senior specialist，毕业后没准就是manager。小公司一般direct hire就是manager或associate manager的了。所以leadership普遍应该pay比direct hire要好吧。但LDRP工资没得negotiate，所以你之前工作年限长，其实挺不划算的，因为拿的是跟其他junior MBA一样的pay

不过很重要的一点~~~金融危机后，基本大公司rotation都只招美国人了~~~唉~~~~

-- by 会员 yoshimihoku (2012/8/21 6:46:09)

作者: bigjoe 时间: 2012-11-20 11:28
标题: Coca-Cola Refreshments Business Leadership Program - Asia Pacific
这个项目我面到了Final，据我观察Core School有Emory, Wharton和Thunderbird等。

另有针对北美的BLP项目（需美国绿卡或公民），据我观察Core School 有Emory, Wharton，Thunderbird，Duke, Kellogg，Moore等

Coca-Cola Refreshments Business Leadership Program - Asia Pacific

A Refreshing Future... MBA Rotation Program with The Coca-Cola Company

The Coca-Cola Company has a great new opportunity for MBA talent called the Business Leadership Program. This 18 month, intensive U.S. based rotation will groom you for leadership opportunities within our Asia Pacific Business Unit.

A Comprehensive 18 Month Rotation
There''s no better place to exploit your natural talents with the world''s number one marketer. With the goal of giving you broad exposure to our business and systems operations, the opportunities are located in Atlanta and consist of 4 - 6 month experiences in core elements of our business, to include:

Customer Facing/Sales Experience
Operational/Supply Chain Experience
Functional Rotation (strategy, finance, business transformation etc... )

In addition to the job based experience, Business Leadership Program participants will engage in structured learning to enhance their business and leadership capabilities, participate in senior-level mentoring, and key networking activities.

At the end of the rotation, opportunities are endless in countries such as Thailand, Indonesia, China, Korea, Vietnam, Japan, Malaysia, or Myanmar.

Requirements

MBA talent, and Masters level talent in non MBA programs

Prior work experience (3-5 years)

Diversity of experience within the background

Demonstrated Leadership (work, campus)

International interest, prior experiences preferred (job, personal)

Change experience (work, life, school via interview)

Geographic mobility necessary

Must be authorized to work in one of these countries: Thailand, Indonesia, China, Vietnam , Japan, Malaysia or Myanmar.

作者: xtf1985 时间: 2012-11-21 16:23
这么有营养的帖子一定要顶啊，问一下，有那位前辈知道汽车行业相关的leadership program 么？？

作者: tracycyc 时间: 2012-11-22 17:02
thanks. I think it is helpful.

作者: 距离拥抱被 时间: 2013-5-21 12:51
感谢版主分享确实对选校定位有很大帮助
另外有点儿吃惊雷鸟竟然在这么多公司的target school list上

作者: victoriahcj 时间: 2013-5-24 00:27

feifairy 发表于 2012-6-21 11:30
绝对好帖呀~可看来看去都是要在MBA前工作3-5年的，我这个工作2年去读MBA的看来要悲剧了呀~~ ...

瞬间觉得两年去读mba的会悲剧。。。

作者: huster 时间: 2013-8-16 09:37
这个帖子前后看了几遍非常感谢版主昨天去参加duke的info session也了解了一下这方面的东西 gsk应该也是有rotation的项目的对于强生的这个项目有两个疑问：1. consumer products部门参不参加感觉以往几乎了解到的所有人都是去卖药和卖器材去了 2。回国的location发现大部分是北京，是否上海或者其他地方也有？

作者: bigjoe 时间: 2014-1-5 12:48

huster 发表于 2013-8-16 09:37
这个帖子前后看了几遍非常感谢版主昨天去参加duke的info session也了解了一下这方面的东西 gsk应该也是有 ...

强生的consumer部门和OTC药物部门有时候参加。但是医疗器械和Pharma是主要的大头。医疗器械和OTC药物在上海。Pharma在北京。

作者: stronger999 时间: 2014-1-5 12:49
版主的牛贴再顶顶

作者: 坞城路少年 时间: 2014-1-5 15:24
好贴，各种精彩的回复，学习了。

作者: patatojuice 时间: 2014-1-7 09:18
Medtronic 今年是不是开始不sponsor了？

作者: bigjoe 时间: 2014-1-7 11:13

patatojuice 发表于 2014-1-7 09:18
Medtronic 今年是不是开始不sponsor了？

对，但有回国项目。

作者: purewatersh 时间: 2014-1-7 22:35
真是好帖子！pre-MBA之前，如果有F500的申请者可以先留意下自己公司是否有类似的leadership program.

作者: bigjoe 时间: 2014-3-17 08:38
Microsoft MACH China MBA

https://careers.microsoft.com/jo ... ;jlang=EN&pp=SS

MACH MBA Program
At Microsoft, you learn from the finest in the business. As an MBA employee, you experience an inspiring world class program. If you are excited to contribute to the business success of Microsoft China, and you want a career like no other - this is the opportunity for you! Through the MACH Program you can be part of the next business strategy that will impact the future of the global economy. Gain international working experiences through rotations; build global networks and receive leadership mentorships. Expedite your business acumen for a faster meaningful contribution to role and gain the support to drive your long term career. Build a valuable skill set to distinguish yourself from your peers, and experience the vital local culture that will influence the world. Our strength lies in our passion for technology, our dedication to our customers, and our shared values. Are you ready to start your Microsoft journey and accelerate at MACH speed?

Possible Disciplines (will be determined during your interview):
Sales
Services

Qualifications:
Pursuing a Full Time MBA Degree
Graduate in 2014
3+ years working experience
Eligibility to apply for a work permit required
Fluently speak of Mandarin and English

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