Because of wireless service costs plummeting in the last year, and as mobile phones are increasingly common, many people now using their mobile phones to make calls across a wide region at night and on weekends, when numerous wireless companies provide unlimited airtime for a relatively small monthly fee.
A. Because of wireless service costs plummeting in the last year, and as mobile phones are increasingly common, many people
B. As the cost of wireless service plummeted in the last year and as mobile phones became increasingly common, many people
C. In the last year, with the cost of wireless service plummeting, and mobile phones have become increasingly common, there are many people
D. With the cost of wireless service plummeting in the last year and mobile phones becoming increasingly common, many people are
E. While the cost of wireless service has plummeted in the last year and mobile phones are increasingly common, many people are
The key is E. Why not D?
with短语作状语,就属于限定性修饰,必须隐含一种意思:”还有另外一部分修饰的东东不包含在内”.
也就是说the cost是 many people的一部分,逻辑意思上不对. the cost of 也有歧义,是wireless service和mobile phones的cost,或者是cost 和mobile phones并列.
请指教
我觉得while这里可以当作although讲.那么就可以和has一起用.
请指教.
偶觉得with短语在句首,其逻辑主语应该是主句的主语,与这里的主句主语many people逻辑搭配不对。
还有With the cost of wireless service plummeting in the last year and mobile phones becoming increasingly common
plummeting in the last year 这种搭配有问题,应该改成that定语从句修饰,这是定语从句修饰与分词短语修饰的一个区别。
我觉得becoming increasingly意思上redundant了。
不好意思。修正一下。今天做LSAT时看到了becoming increasingly 的用法了。所以我想应该这种表达不redundant吧。不好意思。
这里的with 引导复合结构的名词,是ETS强调的副词性结构,修饰的是动词,即
修饰use这一动作,这样的话,第一句中描述的两个事实成了人们用电话的伴随方式
逻辑上不对,另外同意lwei1016GG的cost 会有歧义还有while 在这里作although比较好理解
这里哪是什么转折啊?
while: during the time that something is happening
如果不是转折,while不能和has连用。
如果不是转折,while不能和has连用。
没听说过的说?
tianwan,这个语法点有没有语法书做考证?实在是没概念的说!
我还是觉得有转折的意味在里面.如果表示时间的话,我觉得很难理解哦.
望大牛指点!!!
While the cost of wireless service has plummeted in the last year and mobile phones are increasingly common, many people are
now using their mobile phones to make calls across a wide region at night and on weekends, when numerous wireless companies provide unlimited airtime for a relatively small monthly fee.句子表达的是:虽然无线电话服务费在过去的一年中下降,而且同时,手机变得越来越普遍,但是还是有很多人仅仅在外地、晚上或周末才使用手机,虽然手机的服务公司提供了时间无限制的服务。
在这里,补充一个常识,在美国,很多无线电话公司提供保月制,比如:一个月$40,可以无限制通话。从逻辑上讲,这种服务的推出应该导致在一天内任何时间,一个手机用户可以随时随地地使用手机,但是,原文未划线部分说明,这种服务没有导致大家随意地使用手机。
所以,本题转折的味道还是挺浓的说。
tianwan, 看看大全409题while的用法,有没有转折的意思?while...has...
409 In the last ten years, the dropout rate among Black high school students fell substantially over the past decade, while the number of Blacks who attend college is more than twice what it was.
(A) fell substantially over the past decade, while the number of Blacks who attend college is more than twice what it was
(B) fell substantially, while the number of Blacks attending college is more than double what it was at that time
(C) has fallen substantially, while the number of Blacks attending college has more than doubled
(D) has fallen substantially over the past decade, while the number of Blacks attending college is more than twice what it was at that time(C)
(E) has fallen substantially over the past decade, while the number of Blacks wh可以,没有问题。参见大全一例:
Despite the recent election of a woman to the office of prime minister, the status of women in Pakistan is little changed from how it was in the last century.
(A) is little changed from how it was
(B) is a little change from how it was
(C) has changed little
(D) has changed little from how it has been(C)
(E) is little changed from the way it was
哈哈,搞笑,支持E的偶在模考时居然还是选D。
偶实再想不明白in the last year怎么能和has plummeted连用呢?
而且,E的转折语气可以说合理也可以说不合理。A没有表达转折语气,但意思上也能说得通:因为... 人们用手机,当...
in the last year可以和has plummeted连用,during/in the last/past year应该都可以和完成时连用。
你用“the last”在大全搜索,就可以看到很多例子。
从语法上讲D和E都可以,但问题是D没有转折含义。所以E更好。
偶觉得这题的逻辑关系很像大全里的这题,不是转折,而是顺接关系:因为...,才....
Having the right hand and arm being crippled by a sniper’s bullet during the First World War, Horace Pippin, a Black American painter, worked by holding the brush in his right hand and guiding its movements with his left.
(A) Having the right hand and arm being crippled by a sniper’s bullet during the First World War
(B) In spite of his right hand and arm being crippled by a sniper’s bullet during the First World War
(C) Because there had been a sniper’s bullet during the First World War that crippled his right hand and arm
(D) The right hand and arm being crippled by a sniper’s bullet during the First World War(E)
(E) His right hand and arm crippled by a sniper’s bullet during the First World War
in the last year可以和has plummeted连用,during/in the last/past year应该都可以和完成时连用。
你用“the last”在大全搜索,就可以看到很多例子。
从语法上讲D和E都可以,但问题是D没有转折含义。所以E更好。
谢谢tianwan,时态没问题了,但是语气问题依旧想不通。顺便问一下,如果我想表达‘去年...’那该如何表达?in the last year我认为好像即可以表达为过去的一年,也可以表达为去年,in the past year表达过去的一年好像比较精确一点。
应该是现在完成时和一般过去时应该都可以连用in the last year。不过现在完成时表示和现在有联系,一般过去时表示和现在无联系。
关于完成时和一般过去时的区别,你最好查一本语法书,因为我们讨论的只是一个局部,不看语法书,就无法建立全面的认识,会有无穷多的新问题出现。
比如,这一题我们讨论的是现在完成时可不可以和in the last year连用,结论是可以。但我并没有说一般过去时不可以连用in the last year。至于past和last在语法书上,在讲述关于现在完成时的时候,就是in the past(last)few year。
tianwan关于时态的论述我要记住
我觉得还是应该选D,with...是伴随状语,全句意思为随着成本的降低和手机的流行,许多人现在在晚上和周末打长途电话,此时(晚上和周末)电话公司提供优惠。
因此全句没有转折的意思,如果用连词,as可以,表示随着...的意思。
另外,become这个动词是不能省略的。
vote for D!!!
选E
D的错误是不并列,应该and with...
Key E" has " and "in the last year" why?
Thanks a lot
in the last year=in the past year,过去一年来...说话者以年为单位,既然说的是过去一年来,并以年为单位,那就暗含了"直到现在"的意思,或者换句话说,是"直到最近一个截止统计年限为止",因此用完成时.D的with介词短语和后面的名词不对称.
whithin/during/over/in+the past/last/recent+时间短语 这样的形式通通用完成时.主要看那个the在不在.
我的理解是,完成时不全是表达"过去到现在"的意思,其实它是表达了"过去到最近"的意思,也就是说,它不是以现在这个时点为截止单位的,它表达的是一种延续到现在的动作--在以上的时间表达中,截止到最近的一个统计年限(此后就没再统计了,或此后还没到新统计的时间),也算是"过去到最近"吧.
in the last year=in the past year,过去一年来...说话者以年为单位,既然说的是过去一年来,并以年为单位,那就暗含了"直到现在"的意思,或者换句话说,是"直到最近一个截止统计年限为止",因此用完成时.D的with介词短语和后面的名词不对称.
whithin/during/over/in+the past/last/recent+时间短语 这样的形式通通用完成时.主要看那个the在不在.
MM的意思是有the则是完成时?
我的理解是,完成时不全是表达"过去到现在"的意思,其实它是表达了"过去到最近"的意思,也就是说,它不是以现在这个时点为截止单位的,它表达的是一种延续到现在的动作--在以上的时间表达中,截止到最近的一个统计年限(此后就没再统计了,或此后还没到新统计的时间),也算是"过去到最近"吧.
支持stoneren的"转折"的说法,我把stoneren的翻译稍微改了一下:
While the cost of wireless service has plummeted in the last year and mobile phones are increasingly common, many people are now using their mobile phones to make calls across a wide region at night and on weekends, when numerous wireless companies provide unlimited airtime for a relatively small monthly fee.
句子表达的是:虽然无线电话服务费在过去的一年中已经下降,而且同时,手机变得越来越普遍,但是很多人仍然在晚上或周末才使用手机打长途电话,(因为)在这个时间段无线电话服务公司只收较低的包月费而提供了不限时的通话服务。
这样,转折关系就更加明了了。when引导的非限定定语从句是用来解释说明主句中的时间状语"at night and on weekends"的。请指教。。。
to horsefish:
看有没有the只是个快速的方法, 我注意了一下,如果用过去时的话直接就是last year,连前面的介词都没有.你记住那几个时间短语吧,有这几个时间短语必然是完成时.
Because of wireless service costs plummeting in the last year, and as mobile phones are increasingly common, many people now using their mobile phones to make calls across a wide region at night and on weekends, when numerous wireless companies provide unlimited airtime for a relatively small monthly fee.
A. Because of wireless service costs plummeting in the last year, and as mobile phones are increasingly common, many people
B. As the cost of wireless service plummeted in the last year and as mobile phones became increasingly common, many people
C. In the last year, with the cost of wireless service plummeting, and mobile phones have become increasingly common, there are many people
D. With the cost of wireless service plummeting in the last year and mobile phones becoming increasingly common, many people are
E. While the cost of wireless service has plummeted in the last year and mobile phones are increasingly common, many people are
我摸考的时候选的D,但是我想这题的关键,是不是LES MM说的逻辑主语的问题?请NN确认一下,我找东西的水平太差,search半天也没找到几个能用的..有没有NN来确认一下.如果是这样的话,D必错,E对....
1. Bihar is India’s poorest state, with an annual per capita income of $111, lower than in the most impoverished countries of the world.
(A) lower than in
(B) lower than that of
(C) and lower than that of
(D) which is lower than in(B)
(E) which is lower than it is in
In addition to having more protein than wheat does, rice has protein of higher quality than that in wheat, with more of the amino acids essential to the human diet.
In this sentence, the initial clause modifies the nearest noun, identifying it as the thing being compared with wheat. By making protein the noun modified, choices A, C, and D illogically compare wheat with protein and claim that the protein in rice has more protein than wheat does. In C and D, the comparative structure higher in quality than it is in wheat absurdly suggests that rice protein contains wheat. B, the best choice, logically compares wheat to rice by placing the noun rice immediately after the initial clause. B also uses that to refer to protein in making the comparison between the proteins of rice and wheat. Choice E needs either that in or does after wheat to make a complete and logical comparison.
i think with here refer to a condition,such as with the development of ,if we choose d,then we can see the logical meaning is paradoxical,you can see 无线电话服务费在过去的一年中已经下降,而且同时,手机变得越来越普遍,and at the same time,在这个时间段无线电话服务公司只收较低的包月费 ,here we can not see whether the companies提供了不限时的通话,but we are puzzling why 很多人仍然在晚上或周末才使用手机打长途电话,so i think here while means the contrast condition,only contrasting two conditions not explaining the reason
有道理....thx
但是我还是想知道,with放句首,有没有逻辑主语的问题呢?请继续指教..
又发现一道题...GWD 9-18
On account of a law passed in 1993, making it a crime punishable by imprisonment that a
A. On account of a law passed in 1993, making it a crime punishable by imprisonment that a
B. With a law passed in 1933 that makes it a crime punishable by imprisonment that a
C. A law passed in 1933 that made it a crime punishable by imprisonment for a
D. Because of a law passed in 1933 making it a crime punishable by imprisonment for a
E. Due to a law being passed in 1933 that makes it a crime punishable by imprisonment for a
当然这题也在BD,争论中,GWD给的答案一会B一会D
但是现在发现B中间的时态不对,可是我想知道,B中with的逻辑主语是否也有不对的地方
i think with here refer to a condition,such as with the development of ,if we choose d,then we can see the logical meaning is paradoxical,you can see 无线电话服务费在过去的一年中已经下降,而且同时,手机变得越来越普遍,and at the same time,在这个时间段无线电话服务公司只收较低的包月费 ,here we can not see whether the companies提供了不限时的通话,but we are puzzling why 很多人仍然在晚上或周末才使用手机打长途电话,so i think here while means the contrast condition,only contrasting two conditions not explaining the reason
Nonono, 这里没有转折的意思。随着无线电话服务费在过去的一年中下降和手机变得越来越普遍, 许多人are now using their mobile phones (note not their home phones) to make calls across a wide region at night and on weekends, when numerous wireless companies provide unlimited airtime for a relatively small monthly fee.
而且,D 中的become can not omitted, I 'm just not sure if "with the cost of .... " is acceptable by ETS's rules.
看大家讨论的热烈. 我也说一句:
我的看法, 这里的while不表转折, 表伴随.D的错误在于plummeting in the last year. ETS多次说过不能用v-ing来表示过去完成了的动作.
看大家讨论的热烈. 我也说一句:
我的看法, 这里的while不表转折, 表伴随.D的错误在于plummeting in the last year. ETS多次说过不能用v-ing来表示过去完成了的动作.
A. Because of wireless service costs plummeting in the last year, and as mobile phones are increasingly common, many people
B. As the cost of wireless service plummeted in the last year and as mobile phones became increasingly common, many people
C. In the last year, with the cost of wireless service plummeting, and mobile phones have become increasingly common, there are many people
D. With the cost of wireless service plummeting in the last year and mobile phones becoming increasingly common, many people are
E. While the cost of wireless service has plummeted in the last year and mobile phones are increasingly common, many people are
请问 B 错在那里?
选B的话主句缺少动词are
plummeting in the last year是过去的动作吗?e has plummeted in the last year ,表明持续到现在阿, 再说plummeting 表明持续的价格下调, 有什么错误呢?
我觉得还得靠逻辑判断
with短语作状语,就属于限定性修饰,必须隐含一种意思:”还有另外一部分修饰的东东不包含在内”.
也就是说the cost是 many people的一部分,逻辑意思上不对. the cost of 也有歧义,是wireless service和mobile phones的cost,或者是cost 和mobile phones并列.
请指教
while在这句里不是转折,=as
意思是“伴随着成本降低,手机普遍,人们用手机在周末和晚间通话,在这个时段里。。。”在美国是提供免费unlimited night and weekend domestic call
has ...in the last year也对
所以E在逻辑和语法都是对的。
查了OG,好像几乎没有With...用在句首,这种结构应该不是ETS所喜悦的吧?
Nonono, 这里没有转折的意思。随着无线电话服务费在过去的一年中下降和手机变得越来越普遍, 许多人are now using their mobile phones (note not their home phones) to make calls across a wide region at night and on weekends, when numerous wireless companies provide unlimited airtime for a relatively small monthly fee.
而且,D 中的become can not omitted, I 'm just not sure if "with the cost of .... " is acceptable by ETS's rules.
感觉D更好.
E中While表示"同时..."的意思,这个时候绝对不能用has这种完成时,因为while表示一点时间,不表示时间的延续. 见OG 69, 而如果用语转折句中=although,就可以和完成时连用.但本题不是.
本题同时强调的都是正在进行中的趋势,就是说with sth doing, sth are doing, 而E中分句全部表示状态,无法和从句的are usiing平行.
D中becoming 和increasingly并不冗余,因为become只表示一种变化这种动作,没有表少和变多的方向问题,不同于increase, decrease.
我在模考时选的是D因为
我觉得becoming common比are common更好
因为有和increasingly呼应的渐变的感觉
但若从逻辑干系上说E有原文because的意思
这题选什么呢?
我想问in the last year 和 last year 一样么?
开始我的选择是D,最初排除E就是因为has和in the last year搭配使用感觉不对劲儿,可是看了这么多的讨论,好像突然想起while有一个最早学过的用法,大概是初中的时候,老师讲的while的第一个意思就是“在……同时,当……时候”,大致相当于at the same time吧,做连词。这句话的语言环境对while做此理解好像更合情理和容易接受
原句的大概意思是说过去的一年里收集服务费用降低的同时,其使用也变得更加普遍…… 应该是表示几种情况同时发生,有伴随的意思
还请大家指点!不过仔细体会之后,觉得还是应该选E!
up!
重点之一。
1. Google里搜了一下“in the last year”的句子里用完成时还是比较常见的。
2. 原句不是转折 1)无线电话服务费在过去的一年中下降。 2)手机变得越来越普遍。这两个原因促使人们使用手机。 3)电信公司在晚间和周末提供优惠。促使人们在晚间和周末使用手机。三个条件都是人们。。。的原因。
3. E中的While不好,既然不是转折,while只能表示“during the time that",即指明一个特定的时间段。句中有"在过去的一年中"和“现在”(从手机变得越来越普遍的现在进行时态推出)两个时间段。用while 引导两个不同的时间段,指代不清。例如:While you were at home yesterday and I am in office today, he ....。
但如果用With引导,表示两个先后发生的原因,则不会有时间的指代不清。
4. D中的With应该没问题。Longman 例句: Her hair became grey with the passing of years. With John away, we 've got more room.
5. E 中的become感觉不能省。
选D
1. while 如果做轉折, 表達的是相對輕微的轉折, 這裡為了要強調contrast, 感覺不如用Although, Though, 否則讓人覺得非常的ambigous... 更何況依照原句的意思確實沒有必要轉折 ("people are now using"感覺不是轉折推出來的結果, 而是順著前面講下來的...)
2. while 如果表示"在...時候", 前面講去年的時候, 後面講 "many people are now using", 不覺得有點奇怪嗎...
3. with 通常確實有邏輯主語的問題, 答案選項中如果有 "with", 我的判斷方法通常就是去把主語抓出來, 看看連在一起合不合邏輯. 這句話使用with 感覺其實真的沒那麼好, 但不是完全不行, 在直接排除A,B,C的情況下 (雖然我在做題的時候很pighead的選了B...), D和E比較, D好一點...
以上, 大家繼續討論啊~! 好像還沒有結果哪...
偶选d;
d中的with逻辑主语不是讨论的范围;该独立主格结构中,ing形式前面的名词即为其逻辑主语和句子主语本来无关;
我觉得关键在于become和完成时态在in last year中的使用。
e的while也很困惑,og中说while表示时间段时,通常指很短的时间,所以一般用as引导表示时间渐进。
偶觉得with短语在句首,其逻辑主语应该是主句的主语,与这里的主句主语many people逻辑搭配不对。
还有With the cost of wireless service plummeting in the last year and mobile phones becoming increasingly common
plummeting in the last year 这种搭配有问题,应该改成that定语从句修饰,这是定语从句修饰与分词短语修饰的一个区别。
請問 tianwan 本來選D 現在是否改選E了?
我是偏向選D的 但看到LES nn的解說~我又猶豫了...
不知道此題到底有無解
支持E。
D除了前面说的逻辑意思没有E好,with用法也不对。还有D用了become这个动词,而原文是are。这里become,go, remain等动词,和be动词的意思是不一样的,不能随意替换的。
E的完成时态我觉得问题不大,完成时态时间状语包括:last,past+大段时间;since, the world has ever seen, 等等。
ps:faint!看完别的链接的讨论,觉得D的逻辑好像比较好,这里没有转折的感觉啊。还觉得become increasly common比are increasly common要对呢?become是一个动态的,are是一个事实的陈述。
到底选哪个啊?
看着台上的大虾们你方唱罢我登场,俺这个台下的观众小声问一句这道题是哪里的?大全里好像没有的说?
知道俺弱智,您可不用费心扔砖头砸我。
另外,俺觉得似乎D看起来爽一点。俺的歪理是
1、这句话怎么读我都看不出转折的意思。如果是ETS的真题,要表达转折它应该更明显一些
2、这句话第三小节是 when numerous wireless...,以while开头而不表示转折,后面又来个when,怎么读怎么别扭。
或者,哪位大虾有native的洋朋友,找来问问?
这道题目是GWD9-3
我选的E. 觉得D的with一般表伴随, 用在这里怪怪的. 但此外也没什么硬伤, 考试碰到的话很难轻易排除....
期待NN给个定论.
真想找出题的人问问,他在想什么哪
我觉得E的一个硬伤在于:while的含义不明确,即可表示“随着,当....的时候”,也可表示转折“虽然 但是”(这种用法)更普遍一些。
两种用法在E中都可以解释得通:一、表示“随着”句意为:“随着成本下降和电话的普及,人们越来越多在周末和晚上使用手机,在这个时间段内,电话公司提供了低价的无限制通话时间。”(电话的普及对于人们在周末及晚上使用手机有着加强作用)。
二、表示“虽然但是”句意为:“虽然成本下降,电话也日益普及,人们(却)越来越多地在周末和晚上使用手机,(因为)在这个时间段内,电话公司提供了低价的无限制通话时间。”(转折作用,即人们大多在周末和晚上而不在其它时间使用手机,因为公司的优惠政策)
所以E即使语法正确,但句意有歧义,违反了ETS的无歧义原则。
而D的with sth doing在句首是独立主格结构,明确表示的是“随着.....下降和电话的日益普及”,句意上没有歧义。而且sth即是该独立主格的主语,所以也没介词+分词在句首存在的逻辑主语问题。
另值得注意的是:如果是with + doing在句首,后接sb or sth ....... 则要考虑该结构的逻辑主语问题。
从句意上理解,个人同意E。while有轻微转折的含意,体现在后句中的“night & weekend”(否则费用下降和手机普及,就没必要提及night & weekend). 这样就体现出作者的态度及逻辑关系。楼上第一种句意(while当作“随着”),意思太空。
D 的歧义在于Cost 后的由 “and”连接的两个部分。
感觉上with 和many people 搭配有点问题 用while 的话没什么大的错
强烈支持选D
E 选项的现在完成时(has plummeted)用在一个过去的时间里(in the last year)实在是没有道理啊。
个人认为这道题e有两个绝对错误:1,语法错误,现在完成时has 和过去时态last year,og里对这类错误的解释已经很清楚了;2,改变作者愿意,从原题的划线部分就可以推断出作者这里要表达的是一种因果关系,而e却变成了让步转折,大错特错,其实从意识上仔细体会上也没有转折在这里,认为是转折的NN们试图用中文的习惯去理解英文的,恐怕与英文原意南辕北辙了
补充一点,ets好像比较喜欢带with的独立主格做为正确答案,可能是比较简洁,不过只是个人感觉,有待更多例证。
while...., ....., when....
这样的结构似乎不是特别好吧,请NN指点
D.
首先这里不是转折(前面很多都提到过),不过发现大家忽略了一点。“人们开始在晚上和周末打手机长途”,并不是对比白天不用手机,而是对比晚上周末不再用固定电话。题目中隐含的意思是:晚上和周末一般都在家,可以用固定电话而不是手机打电话。
因此这题逻辑上还是因果关系。
语法上,D中的逻辑主语问题:With A doing, B ... 请注意with中已经有主语,所以不存在主语需要一致的问题,是with引导的独立主格结构。
另外LES所说的doing应该改成that从句,似乎不妥。这里不能用从句,必须用doing分词结构。
补充一点,ets好像比较喜欢带with的独立主格做为正确答案,可能是比较简洁,不过只是个人感觉,有待更多例证。
2. while 如果表示"在...時候", 前面講去年的時候, 後面講 "many people are now using", 不覺得有點奇怪嗎...
欧觉得这句话很对!!
偶当初做的时候,发疯一样找答案,发现哪个看着都不爽!
就选了D。
看来选E者大势已去……;任何语言的语法都是博大精深的,文无定则,法无定理;不能仅靠一些所谓的语法规则套用所有语言现象,逻辑第一的思想要高一个档次;又有谁知道当所有Gmaters都会用逻辑思维解答SC的时候,ETS会不会对所有人提出更高层次的语言能力要求呢?鉴于此,小弟特总结此题如下:
A:混乱,第一感觉就是错;第三层面错误
B:主语没有助动词,第一层面错误
C:同A,杂乱无章;第三层面错误
D:独立主格用得很到位,不存在所谓逻辑主语问题;没有严重篡改原句结构关系;第二层面错误
E:While用的不地道;语气改变;算第三层面错误
嘻嘻,不要见笑,愚见,愚见!
这个对E答案有一个疑问:While the cost of wireless service has plummeted in the last year ---这里说了具体的时间了,in the last year,怎么可以用has 完成时态呢?
偶当初做的时候,发疯一样找答案,发现哪个看着都不爽!
就选了D。
看来选E者大势已去……;任何语言的语法都是博大精深的,文无定则,法无定理;不能仅靠一些所谓的语法规则套用所有语言现象,逻辑第一的思想要高一个档次;又有谁知道当所有Gmaters都会用逻辑思维解答SC的时候,ETS会不会对所有人提出更高层次的语言能力要求呢?鉴于此,小弟特总结此题如下:
A:混乱,第一感觉就是错;第三层面错误
B:主语没有助动词,第一层面错误
C:同A,杂乱无章;第三层面错误
D:独立主格用得很到位,不存在所谓逻辑主语问题;没有严重篡改原句结构关系;第二层面错误
E:While用的不地道;语气改变;算第三层面错误
嘻嘻,不要见笑,愚见,愚见!
老兄,怎么可以这么说捏,大把的人还在选E哪。2楼的GG解释的很经典啦,本题with是错的。
关于in the past year和完成时:
1
most recent or nearest to the present time
ᅳsee also next (12)
I hadn't seen him since the last meeting.
last night/week/year etc
Did you see the game on TV last night?
The law was passed last August.
Interest in golf has grown rapidly in the last ten years.
Things have changed since the last time (=the most recent occasion) you were here.
--from LDOCE
所以,E中完成时和in the last year的搭配时正确的,表示:most recent or nearest to the present time;而如果与last year搭配,则应该用一般过去时,表示动作已经完成。
楼上有的cder说become与increaingly 搭配是redundant,感到不解,在很多专业文章中(last)看到过这种用法,应该不是D的主要错误;
关于with的逻辑主语问题,也已经说得很清楚了,这里with时作独立主格用,不存在逻辑主语的矛盾;
我开始选的也是D, 对于E也很不解,只是觉得E中用完成时和一般现在时并列,觉得不太好;不知道大全里有没有这样的例子:为什么不说:has plummented and has become increasingly common,这样时不是更好呢?
不解中!
3x
我认为这道题目关于E中完成时的用法的怀疑可以休矣,看看GWD10-24
For the last five years the Dutch economy has grown faster than......
E是没有问题的,如果是last year,那么应该用过去时;如果是In the last year,那么用完成时不错。
这帖子好长! 看完估计近视又深了五十度...
首先, 可以很负责任的说, in the last year可以加完成时!
其次, Becoming的问题我觉得真的是谁说谁有理, 大全和OG里面出现过把be换成becoming, 也有把becoming换成be的, 我觉得这属于非常精确的句意理解了, 考试的时候大家还是想多快好省的完成任务, 这个语言点就可以放放了.
最后, 我也不觉得with结构有什么主语判断的问题, 前面有人举出了Longman的例子证明了不需要主语一致.
D.
首先这里不是转折(前面很多都提到过),不过发现大家忽略了一点。“人们开始在晚上和周末打手机长途”,并不是对比白天不用手机,而是对比晚上周末不再用固定电话。题目中隐含的意思是:晚上和周末一般都在家,可以用固定电话而不是手机打电话。
因此这题逻辑上还是因果关系。
语法上,D中的逻辑主语问题:With A doing, B ... 请注意with中已经有主语,所以不存在主语需要一致的问题,是with引导的独立主格结构。
另外LES所说的doing应该改成that从句,似乎不妥。这里不能用从句,必须用doing分词结构。
继续讨论:
首先,强烈支持以上引用的说法!如果承认逻辑意思最大,那么黄线部分想通了,就理解了。
这么长一个帖子,看完后,根本没劲道理会自己选得对不对了。想发一发牢骚的是,gwd的题(主要是SC,当然CR也有一些,RC有也管不着了)动轧就要大家讨论个一年半载的,荫蔽我们后人倒是要说声谢谢,但是如此浩大的求索以及答案的蛇蝎心肠实在是打击人的精力和信心,即便选对了答案,好像距离题目的考点也是千里之遥的感觉,心寒啊...
好了,牢骚归牢骚,大家继续努力、继续讨论。
最后, 我也不觉得with结构有什么主语判断的问题, 前面有人举出了Longman的例子证明了不需要主语一致.
强烈同意
http://www.sentencecorrection.com/forums/lofiversion/index.php/t1335.html
给一个连接.
如果考试遇到了这道变态的题目,我就选D
感觉in the last year即使前面用完成时态,好像过去完成时更好
for Democrat John Kerry and President George W. Bush, while President Bush’s
approval rating has plummeted to 44%—the lowest numbers of his presidency
risen dramatically, while the proportion of Lepidoptera has plummeted..
While may lead a perfect tense clause. Read the above example.
While may lead a Perfect tense clause. Read following examples:
... for Democrat John Kerry and President George W. Bush, while President Bush’s
approval rating has plummeted to 44%—the lowest numbers of his presidency. ...
E实在是觉得很好的。
就是讨论了以后发现While the cost of wireless service has plummeted in the last year and mobile phones are increasingly common 非常的不舒服。。。。
而且,D还是不明白,with哪里出错了?
大“昏”中~
这题我支持D.我在这里只谈逻辑,which mostly weakens the choice e.
我看了后第一感觉就<STRONG>是因果,不是转折,因为我在加拿大近两年正是句子所提到的原因使我cancel座机,改用手机(手机的common),给国内打长途。
1,手机不要钱了。2,月费下调了。3,同样的月费可以打更多的时间了。
而且,还改了手机的计划:原来只有周末免费,后来加了10元,变得周末和晚上免费了,working day也多了100min通话时间。
具体数据(都是市话,长途为市话费加ip卡费):
1,原来座机22/m,市内通话免费。移机55/次。北美搬家频繁。
2,当时手机55/m, 100min for week day,weekend 免费。手机免费。觉得平是通话时间太少,没用手机
3,一年后,手机55/m,150min for week day,其余一样。正好搬家,换成了手机。这时候觉得只有周末和家里通话,不爽,偶尔就用房东的座机打。也不好老用啦!
4,又过了半年,推出如果再加10元,150分钟,周末和晚上都免费,立马换成这个计划了。天天晚上随便打!
to sum up, 我对电话公司推出的各校服务和价钱十分敏感,正是这些变化导致我换成手机,而用手机打长途聊天-当然是在不计费阶段(when 。。。。provides the unlimited airtime)</P><>请大家讨论。
对于说转折的,比如“电话公司成本越来越低,但是大家还是在晚上和周末打电话。”,请注意:"at night and weekends, when wireless companies provide unlimited airtime... for a small monthly fee", 其中when 是修饰night 和weekends的,说明这个时候打手机是不记费阶段。如果是转折,翻译为“电话公司成本越来越低,但是大家还是在晚上和周末不记费阶段打电话,”,好像很合理,但是for a small montyly fee就和这个转折逻辑上无关了!而如果是因果关系,这个就很合理:再一次具体地说出,你交很少的月费就可以得到不记费时段,象我上面提到的例子;而原来的不记费时段要较高的月费。
再驳转折论:
原则一,如果原文逻辑意义正确,你不能改变原句意思和重心
原则二,如果原文逻辑意义错误,你可以改变原句意思或重心。比如 GWD 8-20,句子意思应该是转折(but),而不是递进(not only...but also)
Not only did the systematic clearing of forests in the United States create farmland (especially in the Northeast) and gave consumers relatively inexpensive houses and furniture, but it also caused erosion and very quickly deforested whole regions.
A. Not only did the systematic clearing of forests in the United States create farmland (especially in the Northeast) and gave consumers relatively inexpensive houses and furniture, but it also
B. Not only did the systematic clearing of forests in the United States create farmland (especially in the Northeast), which gave consumers relatively inexpensive houses and furniture, but also
C. The systematic clearing of forests in the United States, creating farmland (especially in the Northeast) and giving consumers relatively inexpensive houses and furniture, but also
D. The systematic clearing of forests in the United States created farmland (especially in the Northeast) and gave consumers relatively inexpensive houses and furniture, but it also(D)
E. The systematic clearing of forests in the United States not only created farmland (especially in the Northeast), giving consumers relatively inexpensive houses and furniture, but it
不可否认,说GWD 9-3是转折的人的道理也勉强说的过去,但说因果也绝对没有错。我们承认万物之间关系是复杂的,两个现象之间可能既有因果,又有转折,还有其他一些关系。因此,这题如果认为是转折关系,就算不说错,至少也是在表明两个现象之间的另一个关系,而这个关系不是原文要表达的,从而改变了句义。
证毕。
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