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标题: 【求助狂】：og12-046，them怎么能 指代介词宾语，修饰成分？ [打印本页]
作者: kingarthur00    时间: 2011-5-9 20:50
标题: 【求助狂】：og12-046，them怎么能 指代介词宾语，修饰成分？
og12-023.
In a previous design, the weight of the discus used in
track competition is concentrated in a metal center,
but now it is lined with lead around the perimeter,
thereby improving stability in flight and resulting in
longer throws.
(A)
In a previous design, the weight of the discus
used in track competition is concentrated in a
metal center, but now it is
(B)
According to a previous design, the weight of
the discus used in track competition was
concentrated in a metal center, but now it is
(C)
Once designed with its weight concentrated
in a metal center, the discus used in track
competition is now
(D)
The discus used in track competition, once
designed with its weight concentrated in a metal
center, but now
(E)
The discus used in track competition was once
designed having its weight concentrated in a
metal center and now
OG解释：In the sentence presented here, the grammatical subject is weight, not discus, so the pronoun it grammatically refers to weight, which makes no sense.
所以：代词指代不了修饰成分中的名词（og12-006中的them指代同样适合该结论；且很多NN也这么说）
但是
og12-046.
In ancient Thailand, much of the local artisans’ creative
energy was expended for the creation of Buddha
images and when they constructed and decorated the
temples that enshrined them.
(A)
much of the local artisans’ creative energy was
expended for the creation of Buddha images and
when they constructed and decorated the
temples that enshrined them
(B)
much of the local artisans’ creative energy was
expended on the creation of Buddha images and
on construction and decoration of the temples in
which they were enshrined
(C)
much of the local artisans’ creative energy was
expended on the creation of Buddha images as
well as constructing and decoration of the
temples in which they were enshrined
(D)
creating images of Buddha accounted for much
of the local artisans’ creative energy, and also
constructing and decorating the temples
enshrining them
(E)
the creation of Buddha images accounted for
much of the local artisans’ creative energy as
well as construction and decoration of the
temples that enshrined them
此题中的them，居然指代了介词宾语Buddha images（修饰成分，修饰creation），为什么呢？请牛牛指点
作者: kingarthur00    时间: 2011-5-10 15:58
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作者: kingarthur00    时间: 2011-5-11 18:32
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作者: jiaying52    时间: 2011-5-11 18:43
og12-023.
In a previous design, the weight of the discus used in
track competition is concentrated in a metal center,
but now it is lined with lead around the perimeter,
thereby improving stability in flight and resulting in
longer throws.
(A)
In a previous design, the weight of the discus
used in track competition is concentrated in a
metal center, but now it is
(B)
According to a previous design, the weight of
the discus used in track competition was
concentrated in a metal center, but now it is
(C)
Once designed with its weight concentrated
in a metal center, the discus used in track
competition is now
(D)
The discus used in track competition, once
designed with its weight concentrated in a metal
center, but now
(E)
The discus used in track competition was once
designed having its weight concentrated in a
metal center and now
OG解释：In the sentence presented here, the grammatical subject is weight, not discus, so the pronoun it grammatically refers to weight, which makes no sense.
所以：代词指代不了修饰成分中的名词（og12-006中的them指代同样适合该结论；且很多NN也这么说）
但是
og12-046.
In ancient Thailand, much of the local artisans’ creative
energy was expended for the creation of Buddha
images and when they constructed and decorated the
temples that enshrined them.
(A)
much of the local artisans’ creative energy was
expended for the creation of Buddha images and
when they constructed and decorated the
temples that enshrined them
(B)
much of the local artisans’ creative energy was
expended on the creation of Buddha images and
on construction and decoration of the temples in
which they were enshrined
(C)
much of the local artisans’ creative energy was
expended on the creation of Buddha images as
well as constructing and decoration of the
temples in which they were enshrined
(D)
creating images of Buddha accounted for much
of the local artisans’ creative energy, and also
constructing and decorating the temples
enshrining them
(E)
the creation of Buddha images accounted for
much of the local artisans’ creative energy as
well as construction and decoration of the
temples that enshrined them
此题中的them，居然指代了介词宾语Buddha images（修饰成分，修饰creation），为什么呢？请牛牛指点
-- by 会员 kingarthur00 (2011/5/9 20:50:37)



Lz 没太看懂你说的很多人说的代词不能指代修饰成分中的名词什么意思，不过026指所以it 不能指代weight是在句意上面说不通，因为重量和铅分布在P 周围没有道理。而不是说代词不能修饰成分中的名词。一般来讲，代词只要有先行词 而且逻辑和语法上都说的通，就可以用。
你方便的话，也可以把006贴上来。
作者: jiaying52    时间: 2011-5-11 18:45
og12-023.
In a previous design, the weight of the discus used in
track competition is concentrated in a metal center,
but now it is lined with lead around the perimeter,
thereby improving stability in flight and resulting in
longer throws.
(A)
In a previous design, the weight of the discus
used in track competition is concentrated in a
metal center, but now it is
(B)
According to a previous design, the weight of
the discus used in track competition was
concentrated in a metal center, but now it is
(C)
Once designed with its weight concentrated
in a metal center, the discus used in track
competition is now
(D)
The discus used in track competition, once
designed with its weight concentrated in a metal
center, but now
(E)
The discus used in track competition was once
designed having its weight concentrated in a
metal center and now
OG解释：In the sentence presented here, the grammatical subject is weight, not discus, so the pronoun it grammatically refers to weight, which makes no sense.
所以：代词指代不了修饰成分中的名词（og12-006中的them指代同样适合该结论；且很多NN也这么说）
但是
og12-046.
In ancient Thailand, much of the local artisans’ creative
energy was expended for the creation of Buddha
images and when they constructed and decorated the
temples that enshrined them.
(A)
much of the local artisans’ creative energy was
expended for the creation of Buddha images and
when they constructed and decorated the
temples that enshrined them
(B)
much of the local artisans’ creative energy was
expended on the creation of Buddha images and
on construction and decoration of the temples in
which they were enshrined
(C)
much of the local artisans’ creative energy was
expended on the creation of Buddha images as
well as constructing and decoration of the
temples in which they were enshrined
(D)
creating images of Buddha accounted for much
of the local artisans’ creative energy, and also
constructing and decorating the temples
enshrining them
(E)
the creation of Buddha images accounted for
much of the local artisans’ creative energy as
well as construction and decoration of the
temples that enshrined them
此题中的them，居然指代了介词宾语Buddha images（修饰成分，修饰creation），为什么呢？请牛牛指点
-- by 会员 kingarthur00 (2011/5/9 20:50:37)




Lz 没太看懂你说的很多人说的代词不能指代修饰成分中的名词什么意思，不过026指所以it 不能指代weight是在句意上面说不通，因为重量和铅分布在P 周围没有道理。而不是说代词不能修饰成分中的名词。一般来讲，代词只要有先行词 而且逻辑和语法上都说的通，就可以用。
你方便的话，也可以把006贴上来。
作者: kingarthur00    时间: 2011-5-11 21:44
好的！非常感谢ls的帮助！
OG12-006
In late 1997, the chambers inside the pyramid of the
Pharaoh Menkaure at Giza were closed to visitors for
cleaning and repair due to moisture exhaled by
tourists, which raised its humidity to such levels so
that salt from the stone was crystallizing and fungus
was growing on the walls.
(A)
due to moisture exhaled by tourists, which
raised its humidity to such levels so that salt
from the stone was crystallizing
(B)
due to moisture that tourists had exhaled,
thereby raising its humidity to such levels that
salt from the stone would crystallize
(C)
because tourists were exhaling moisture, which
had raised the humidity within them to levels
such that salt from the stone would crystallize
(D)
because of moisture that was exhaled by tourists
raising the humidity within them to levels so high
as to make the salt from the stone crystallize
(E)
because moisture exhaled by tourists had raised
the humidity within them to such levels that salt
from the stone was crystallizing
正确选项:E
OG C\D解释:  them semms to refer to tourists
     E 解释：them clearly refers to chambers  
为什么E中them清晰指代chambers，而不是tourists？
作者: kingarthur00    时间: 2011-5-11 21:51
og12-023.
In a previous design, the weight of the discus used in
track competition is concentrated in a metal center,
but now it is lined with lead around the perimeter,
thereby improving stability in flight and resulting in
longer throws.
(A)
In a previous design, the weight of the discus
used in track competition is concentrated in a
metal center, but now it is
(B)
According to a previous design, the weight of
the discus used in track competition was
concentrated in a metal center, but now it is
(C)
Once designed with its weight concentrated
in a metal center, the discus used in track
competition is now
(D)
The discus used in track competition, once
designed with its weight concentrated in a metal
center, but now
(E)
The discus used in track competition was once
designed having its weight concentrated in a
metal center and now
OG解释：In the sentence presented here, the grammatical subject is weight, not discus, so the pronoun it grammatically refers to weight, which makes no sense.
所以：代词指代不了修饰成分中的名词（og12-006中的them指代同样适合该结论；且很多NN也这么说）
但是
og12-046.
In ancient Thailand, much of the local artisans’ creative
energy was expended for the creation of Buddha
images and when they constructed and decorated the
temples that enshrined them.
(A)
much of the local artisans’ creative energy was
expended for the creation of Buddha images and
when they constructed and decorated the
temples that enshrined them
(B)
much of the local artisans’ creative energy was
expended on the creation of Buddha images and
on construction and decoration of the temples in
which they were enshrined
(C)
much of the local artisans’ creative energy was
expended on the creation of Buddha images as
well as constructing and decoration of the
temples in which they were enshrined
(D)
creating images of Buddha accounted for much
of the local artisans’ creative energy, and also
constructing and decorating the temples
enshrining them
(E)
the creation of Buddha images accounted for
much of the local artisans’ creative energy as
well as construction and decoration of the
temples that enshrined them
此题中的them，居然指代了介词宾语Buddha images（修饰成分，修饰creation），为什么呢？请牛牛指点
-- by 会员 kingarthur00 (2011/5/9 20:50:37)





Lz 没太看懂你说的很多人说的代词不能指代修饰成分中的名词什么意思，不过026指所以it 不能指代weight是在句意上面说不通，因为重量和铅分布在P 周围没有道理。而不是说代词不能修饰成分中的名词。一般来讲，代词只要有先行词 而且逻辑和语法上都说的通，就可以用。
你方便的话，也可以把006贴上来。
-- by 会员 jiaying52 (2011/5/11 18:45:14)


顺便问下，“一般来讲，代词只要有先行词 而且逻辑和语法上都说的通，就可以用。”这句话中的语法上什么时候说不通呢？（除了单复数一致）
作者: kingarthur00    时间: 2011-5-12 11:57
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作者: kingarthur00    时间: 2011-5-12 20:32
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作者: kingarthur00    时间: 2011-5-13 09:28
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作者: mongmong    时间: 2011-5-23 12:56
og12-023.
In a previous design, the weight of the discus used in
track competition is concentrated in a metal center,
but now it is lined with lead around the perimeter,
thereby improving stability in flight and resulting in
longer throws.
(A)
In a previous design, the weight of the discus
used in track competition is concentrated in a
metal center, but now it is
(B)
According to a previous design, the weight of
the discus used in track competition was
concentrated in a metal center, but now it is
(C)
Once designed with its weight concentrated
in a metal center, the discus used in track
competition is now
(D)
The discus used in track competition, once
designed with its weight concentrated in a metal
center, but now
(E)
The discus used in track competition was once
designed having its weight concentrated in a
metal center and now
OG解释：In the sentence presented here, the grammatical subject is weight, not discus, so the pronoun it grammatically refers to weight, which makes no sense.
所以：代词指代不了修饰成分中的名词（og12-006中的them指代同样适合该结论；且很多NN也这么说）[OG不是说it 不能指代前面的名次，相反是可以指代的，所以A就指代了weight, 而句子意思应该是指代discus而非weight，这就是A为何错了]
但是
og12-046.
In ancient Thailand, much of the local artisans’ creative
energy was expended for the creation of Buddha
images and when they constructed and decorated the
temples that enshrined them.
(A)
much of the local artisans’ creative energy was
expended for the creation of Buddha images and
when they constructed and decorated the
temples that enshrined them
(B)
much of the local artisans’ creative energy was
expended on the creation of Buddha images and
on construction and decoration of the temples in
which they were enshrined
(C)
much of the local artisans’ creative energy was
expended on the creation of Buddha images as
well as constructing and decoration of the
temples in which they were enshrined
(D)
creating images of Buddha accounted for much
of the local artisans’ creative energy, and also
constructing and decorating the temples
enshrining them
(E)
the creation of Buddha images accounted for
much of the local artisans’ creative energy as
well as construction and decoration of the
temples that enshrined them
此题中的them，居然指代了介词宾语Buddha images（修饰成分，修饰creation），为什么呢？请牛牛指点
正确答案是Ｂ，哪里有them这件事情？？？
-- by 会员 kingarthur00 (2011/5/9 20:50:37)

作者: 阿七七四十九    时间: 2011-7-11 15:08
up up, 谁能说说 in which they。。。那个they的指代？
作者: nemiah    时间: 2011-7-11 15:34
Buddha那道题应该选B吧？
我理解代词指代的问题在于：

代词指代的referent应该是和代词平级的名词。就是说如果前面的名词作为修饰成分修饰某个主语或宾语，就不能被后面的代词指代。
不过chamber的那道题我觉得D也不会有被错误指代的嫌疑。

请NN帮助！！
作者: 阿七七四十九    时间: 2011-7-11 16:37
这个是正确的B的原话： Inancient Thailand, much of the local artisans' creative energy was expendedon the creation of Buddha images and on construction and decoration of thetemples in which theywere enshrined.

这道题的的they怎么看出是和谁同级呢？不从意思上说，从形式上说的话，they能不能指代 local artisans 或者 creative energy呢？求解答呢，谢谢！
作者: 阿七七四十九    时间: 2011-7-11 16:39
Buddha那道题应该选B吧？
我理解代词指代的问题在于：

代词指代的referent应该是和代词平级的名词。就是说如果前面的名词作为修饰成分修饰某个主语或宾语，就不能被后面的代词指代。
不过chamber的那道题我觉得D也不会有被错误指代的嫌疑。

请NN帮助！！
-- by 会员 nemiah (2011/7/11 15:34:28)



                   这个是正确的B的原话： Inancient Thailand, much of the local artisans' creative energy was expendedon the creation of Buddha images and on construction and decoration of thetemples in which theywere enshrined.

这道题的的they怎么看出是和谁同级呢？不从意思上说，从形式上说的话，they能不能指代 local artisans 或者 creative energy呢？求解答呢，谢谢！
作者: kingarthur00    时间: 2011-7-11 17:25
Buddha那道题应该选B吧？
我理解代词指代的问题在于：

代词指代的referent应该是和代词平级的名词。就是说如果前面的名词作为修饰成分修饰某个主语或宾语，就不能被后面的代词指代。
不过chamber的那道题我觉得D也不会有被错误指代的嫌疑。

请NN帮助！！
-- by 会员 nemiah (2011/7/11 15:34:28)




这个是正确的B的原话： Inancient Thailand, much of the local artisans' creative energy was expendedon the creation of Buddha images and on construction and decoration of thetemples in which theywere enshrined.

这道题的的they怎么看出是和谁同级呢？不从意思上说，从形式上说的话，they能不能指代 local artisans 或者 creative energy呢？求解答呢，谢谢！
-- by 会员 阿七七四十九 (2011/7/11 16:39:40)


代词按照逻辑意思指代，所以只能是buddha了！
从形式上可以指代任何东东，只是主从句主语对位较好！
代词指代了介词宾语只是不好，最好用那个宾语原型代替！
作者: raynecr    时间: 2016-10-27 11:52
翻到老帖子...
cited Ron's opinion:" keep it simple!
as long as the pronoun (1) stands for something that's obvious in context and (2) is actually allowed (per grammar rules) to stand for that thing... it's fine. end of story."

https://www.manhattanprep.com/gmat/forums/post112697.html#p112697



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