OG 174 和 80 已分别被讨论过多次，这次我们来比较一下： 174(C): A letter by Mark Twain, written in the same year that The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn was published, reveals that Twain provided financial assistance to one of the first Black students at 80(A). Salt deposits and moisture threaten to destroy the 如果按174(C)的讲法，以下被修改的80(A)为什么不是更好？ 80(~A). Salt deposits and moisture threaten to destroy the 多多讨论．．．
可能ETS把year当作具体名词，time当作抽象名词。
the same as/that只是对于具体名词有意思的不同，the same as表示同样的但不是同一个，the same that表示同一个。
the same as/that对于抽象名词是一样的。
同意楼上的，
same sth + that clause 从句表示和sth是一个东东。
same sth + as clause 从句表示和sth相似的东东。
80题，几个文明的时代不可能同时发生，只是相近时间，所以笼统地用time表示，用as.
174， 2本书的出版确实一个年份，可以用精确的year来表示，用that.
另外偶认为要确定修饰sth，必须用that，而不是when/where/which（in the same place that/ the same person that/ in the same day that），不知道NN认为呢？？？
OG 174 和 80 已分别被讨论过多次，这次我们来比较一下： 174(C): A letter by Mark Twain, written in the same year that The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn was published, reveals that Twain provided financial assistance to one of the first Black students at 80(A). Salt deposits and moisture threaten to destroy the 如果按174(C)的讲法，以下被修改的80(A)为什么不是更好？ 80(~A). Salt deposits and moisture threaten to destroy the 多多讨论．．．
我认为这是要看动作是否相同
第一句不能改成A letter by Mark Twain, written in the same year as The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn, reveals that Twain provided financial assistance to one of the first Black students at
诸位师兄讲的极是，the same as/that 说得是两码事：(1)相同东东，(2)同一个东东。问题在于该用哪个意思，细细琢磨tianwan兄和唐三彩兄提出的建议...
同意bon 兄，174（A）不能改成A letter by Mark Twain, written in the same year as The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn, 但为什么不能改成 A letter by Mark Twain, written in the same year as The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn was published, ? 两件事同一年被完成？
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找了几个例子, 大家看看一起讨论......不见得相关.....
12. Formulas for cash flow and the ratio of debt to equity do not apply to new small businesses in the same way as they do to established big businesses, because they are growing and are seldom in equilibrium.
(A) Formulas for cash flow and the ratio of debt to equity do not apply to new small businesses in the same way as they do to established big businesses, because they are growing and are seldom in equilibrium.
(B) Because they are growing and are seldom in equilibrium, formulas for cash flow and the ratio of debt to equity do not apply to new small businesses in the same way as they do to established big businesses.
(C) Because they are growing and are seldom in equilibrium, new small businesses are not subject to the same applicability of formulas for cash flow and the ratio of debt to equity as established big businesses.
(D) Because new small businesses are growing and are seldom in equilibrium, formulas for cash flow and the ratio of debt to equity do not apply to them in the same way as to established big businesses.（D）
(E) New small businesses are not subject to the applicability of formulas for cash flow and the ratio of debt to equity in the same way as established big businesses, because they are growing and are seldom in equilibrium.
In A, the they after because is ambiguous; it seems illogically to refer to Formulas because they and Formulas are each the grammatical subject of a clause and because the previous they refers to Formulas. In A and B, do not apply to... in the same way as they do to is wordy and awkward. D, the best choice, says more concisely in the same way as to. Also in B, because they refers to formulas, the introductory clause states confusedly that the formulas are growing. In C and E, subject to the [same] applicability of... is wordy, awkward, and imprecise; furthermore, are is preferable either before or after established big businesses to complete the comparison. Finally, the referent of they is not immediately clear in E.
这边ETS给出明确说法: in the same way as to, 再讨论......
25. The end of the eighteenth century saw the emergence of prize-stock breeding, with individual bulls and cows receiving awards, fetching unprecedented prices, and excited enormous interest whenever they were put on show.
(A) excited
(B) it excited
(C) exciting
(D) would excite（C）
(E) it had excited
Choice C is best. The third verb phrase in the series describing bulls and cows should have the same grammatical form as the first two. Only choice C has a present participle (or “-ing” form) that is parallel with the two preceding verbs, receiving and fetching. Instead of the present participle, choices A and B use the past tense (excited), choice D uses an auxiliary verb (would excite), and choice E uses the past perfect tense (had excited). Additionally, the incorrect verb tenses in B and E are introduced by a pronoun, it, that lacks a logical noun referent.
这边的则是the same N as N
54. Galileo was convinced that natural phenomena, as manifestations of the laws of physics, would appear the same to someone on the deck of a ship moving smoothly and uniformly through the water as a person standing on land.
(A) water as a
(B) water as to a
(C) water; just as it would to a
(D) water, as it would to the（B）
(E) water; just as to the
B, the best choice, uses the idiomatic and grammatically parallel form the same to X as to Y. Because A lacks the preposition to, it seems to compare the appearance of natural phenomena to that of a person standing on land. C and D unnecessarily repeat would and wrongly use the singular it to refer to the plural phenomena. C and E each contain a faulty semicolon and produce errors in idiom, the same to X just as [it would] to. D and E use the definite article the where the indefinite article a is needed to refer to an unspecified person.
这里的例子ETS也很明确: the same to X as to Y
92. Never before had taxpayers confronted so many changes at once as they had in the Tax Reform Act of 1986.
(A) so many changes at once as they had in
(B) at once as many changes as
(C) at once as many changes that there were with
(D) as many changes at once as they confronted in（D）
(E) so many changes at once that confronted them in
Choice D is the best answer, stating grammatically and clearly that, with the 1986 Tax Reform Act, taxpayers confronted more simultaneous changes than ever before. In choice A, the past perfect had [confronted] illogically places the 1986 events in the same time frame as Never before had...; a simple past tense is needed to present the 1986 events as following the earlier ones. Choices B and C awkwardly place at once between confronted and its direct object, changes. Furthermore, B illogically states that the Act itself was many changes, when the point is rather that it presented many changes, and as many... that is an unidiomatic comparison. Choice E, too, presents an unidiomatic comparison with so many... that.
in the same Sth as Sth
109. Legislation in the Canadian province of Ontario requires of both public and private employers that pay be the same for jobs historically held by women as for jobs requiring comparable skill that are usually held by men.
(A) that pay be the same for jobs historically held by women as for jobs requiring comparable skill that are
(B) that pay for jobs historically held by women should be the same as for a job requiring comparable skills
(C) to pay the same in jobs historically held by women as in jobs of comparable skill that are
(D) to pay the same regardless of whether a job was historically held by women or is one demanding comparable skills（A）
(E) to pay as much for jobs historically held by women as for a job demanding comparable skills
Choice A is best. In choice B, should is illogical after requires, or at least unnecessary, and so is better omitted; in choices B and E, job does not agree in number with jobs; and in choices B, D, and E, the wording illogically describes the comparable skills rather than the jobs as being “usually held by men.” Choices C, D, and E produce the ungrammatical construction requires of... employers to pay, in which of makes the phrase incorrect. In C, the use of in rather than for is unidiomatic, and jobs of comparable skill confusedly suggests that the jobs rather than the workers possess the skills. In D, the phrase beginning regardless... is awkward and wordy in addition to being illogical.
the same for Sth as for Sth
168. Today, because of improvements in agricultural technology, the same amount of acreage produces double the apples that it has in 1910.
(A) double the apples that it has
(B) twice as many apples as it did
(C) as much as twice the apples it has
(D) two times as many apples as there were（B）
(E) a doubling of the apples that it did
Choice B, the best answer, correctly uses the adverbial phrase twice as many... to modify the verb produces; properly employs many rather than much to describe a quantity made up of countable units (apples); and appropriately substitutes did for the understood produced to express the logically necessary past tense of produces. Choice A awkwardly substitutes the adjective double for twice; uses that without a clear referent; and misuses has to refer to events occurring in 1910. Choice C employs the incorrect much in a wordy construction and also misuses has. D is wordy and imprecise;... as there were in 1910 refers to all apples produced in 1910, regardless of location. E is illogical: since that refers to a doubling, E nonsensically asserts that the doubling occurred in 1910.
大全阅读搜出的句子，供大家参考：
Since the heat is not conducted outward to the surface to stimulate the appropriate receptors, the organism does not “appreciate” this stimulation in the same way that it “appreciates” heating and cooling of the skin.
the proponents of the theory that microwave radiation acts on organisms in the same way as other forms of radiation based their conclusions primarily on unfounded assumption.
animals apparently navigate in much the same way that human beings do
the Moon was formed in the same way as were the planets in the inner solar system (Mercury, Venus, Mars, and Earth)
谢谢！ vincent0330兄和jnlvo兄的实例检验了ETS的思路。
诸位师兄讲的极是，the same as/that 说得是两码事：(1)相同东东，(2)同一个东东。问题在于该用哪个意思，细细琢磨tianwan兄和唐三彩兄提出的建议...
同意bon 兄，174（A）不能改成A letter by Mark Twain, written in the same year as The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn, 但为什么不能改成 A letter by Mark Twain, written in the same year as The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn was published, ? 两件事同一年被完成？
以上的两个修改句不妥，某一年就是某一年，而没有相同一年。另一方面，Time (时代) 作为抽象名词，the same as/that 是一样的，所以，楼主的80(A)和80(~A)说得过去，相同或者同一时代咯~~~
个人理解，多多讨论．．．
个人意见:
可是我觉得这样用了两个that, 另外flourished和thrived也是同样的意思, 倒不如用as the civilization, 共用flourished的涵义来得好.....
个人意见:
可是我觉得这样用了两个that, 另外flourished和thrived也是同样的意思, 倒不如用as the civilization, 共用flourished的涵义来得好.....
Yeap, ETS' version is more concise than bunnier's. 
Yeap, ETS' version is more concise than bunnier's.
bunnier兄, 我不是抬缸啦!!请不要误会.....
只是觉得当as表动作的可比性时, 通常指的是同一个动作.....
若是用that, 则代表两个动作不同.....
bunnier兄, 我不是抬缸啦!!请不要误会.....
只是觉得当as表动作的可比性时, 通常指的是同一个动作.....
若是用that, 则代表两个动作不同.....
呵呵... 没误会. bunnier really agreed with vincent0330! bunnier should stop creating bogus sentences... but he can't... 
hehe.
补充一个例句
The same as /the same that
22. In its most recent approach, the comet Crommelin passed the Earth at about the same distance and in about the same position, some 25 degrees above the horizon, that Halley’s comet will pass the next time it appears.
(A) that Halley’s comet will pass
(B) that Halley’s comet is to be passing
(C) as Halley’s comet
(D) as will Halley’s comet
(E) as Halley’s comet will do (ans
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gmej: A之所以不对，是因为the same position that Halley’s comet will pass 中pass的语法上的宾语应该是position，但从逻辑上应该是the Earth。
AS前后比较（强调）的重心其实是状语，不是宾语。
如果这道题A改为that will Halley’s comet也不对，因为还原了是：
the same position that Halley’s comet will pass the Earth at about the same distance and in about the same position
那么定语从句的引导词THAT在从句中就不充当任何成份了，这是不可以的。
用AS的话，AS作为连词，连接整个句子，解决了这个问题。
把I read the same books as (that ) most young people do.
写全了是：I read the same books as (that ) most young people read the book.
the same position that Halley’s comet will pass the next time it appears
写全了是：the same position that Halley’s comet will pass the position the next time it appears
逻辑不通。而是：the same position that Halley’s comet will pass the earth the next time it appears
80. Salt deposits and moisture threaten to destroy the Mohenjo-Daro excavation in Pakistan, the site of an ancient civilization that flourished at the same time as the civilizations in the Nile delta and the river valleys of the Tigris and Euphrates.
(D) flourishing at the same time as those did
也想问D中did为什么必须省略。up
哦，就是说在不产生歧义的情况下，首选省略形式，明白了。
哦，就是说在不产生歧义的情况下，首选省略形式，明白了。
我还没有懂，可以帮忙具体解释一下OG的说法么？
did in D and were in E are awkward and unnecessary
new_land,看到你的留言，过来和你一起看这个OG80。
关于D，我的理解如下，希望对你有帮助：
第一，用those指代是错误的，这点相信你没有疑问了，因为你没有问，呵呵；
第二，suppose前面有civilizations，那么those对了，而且由于前面只有civilizations可以指代，那么those指代不会发生歧义，so，其他相同成分全部可省略。
谢谢seraph，怎么快的回答，真是非常的感谢！
那是否可以这样理解：
因为是主语civilizations之间比较，谓语flourished 是相同的，所以可以省略谓语flourished ，直接进行主语间的比较，所以这里DE的were和did是没有必要补出的
the site of an ancient civilization that flourished at the same time as the civilizations （flourished） in the Nile delta
是的，我的理解就是这样的。
同意楼上的，
same sth + that clause 从句表示和sth是一个东东。
same sth + as clause 从句表示和sth相似的东东。
80题，几个文明的时代不可能同时发生，只是相近时间，所以笼统地用time表示，用as.
174， 2本书的出版确实一个年份，可以用精确的year来表示，用that.
另外偶认为要确定修饰sth，必须用that，而不是when/where/which（in the same place that/ the same person that/ in the same day that），不知道NN认为呢？？？
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