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作者: Sonehri 时间: 2011-3-12 11:15
标题: Spanish painter EI Greco
78. Which of the following most logically completes the passage?
The figures in portraits by the Spanish painter EI Greco (1541-1614) are systematically elongated. In EI Greco's time, the intentional distortion of human figures was unprecedented in European painting. Consequently, some critics have suggested that EI Greco had an astigmatism, a type of visual impairment, that resulted in people appearing to him in the distorted way that is characteristic of his paintings. However, this suggestion cannot be the explanation, because
(A) several twentieth-century artists have consciously adopted from EI Greco's paintings the systematic elongation of the human form
(8) some people do have elongated bodies somewhat like those depicted in EI Greco's portraits
(C) if EI Greco had an astigmatism, then, relative to how people looked to him, the elongated figures in his paintings would have appeared to him to be distorted
(D) even if EI Greco had an astigmatism, there would have been no correction for it available in the period in which he lived
(E) there were non-European artists, even in EI Greco's time, who included in their works human figures that were intentionally distorted

who can explain to me plz!!!!

作者: huangyouhuifei 时间: 2011-3-13 00:24
刚做到此题。答案是C。
如果他有散光，他看真人就变长，他看正常尺寸的画也变长，正常尺寸画和真人在他看来长度是一样的。所以，即使有散光，画的画也应该是正常尺寸。所以不是由散光引起的。因为，要是散光导致他作出超长的画的话，在他看来也是尺寸比真人尺寸长。C就是这个意思。

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作者: huangyouhuifei 时间: 2011-3-13 00:32
还基于一个假设：一般来说，画家作画的比例尺跟真人比例尺一样。（OG verbal review上给的解释）

参考RonPurewal的解释：
http://www.manhattangmat.com/forums/gmatprep-spanish-painters-t9634.html

作者: Sonehri 时间: 2011-3-13 08:24
就是说他看人的尺寸和画画的尺寸一致变长，所以正常人看他的画时应该觉得是正常尺寸
？

作者: Gail小M 时间: 2011-3-13 10:31
差不多..他看到的人是变长了的尺寸，要使得画出来的画在他眼中也是变长了的尺寸的话（即跟他看到的一致）其实他画的就是正常尺寸。

正常尺寸--在他眼中是变长尺寸
画出正常尺寸--在他眼中看到的画的是变长尺寸（在他眼里，画出的就是看到的都是变长尺寸）

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作者: huangyouhuifei 时间: 2011-3-13 17:32

就是说他看人的尺寸和画画的尺寸一致变长，所以正常人看他的画时应该觉得是正常尺寸
？

-- by 会员 Sonehri (2011/3/13 8:24:45)

应该是这样的~~

作者: crystalbain 时间: 2011-6-2 16:23
嗯，想破脑袋再加上你们的comment，我终于明白OG的解释在说什么了~~
But if astigmatism were the explanation, then the elongated images in his pictures should have appeared to El Greco to be too long: he would have perceived the images as longer than they actually are-and therefore as inaccurate representations ofwhat he perceived.

如果散光是原因的话，那在他的画里面的那些被加长了的人，对于El Greco来说就更长了：因为他看东西比正常人看到的要长--这就是所谓的他看到的东西的inaccurate representation~~

这道题太痛苦了~~死想。。。考试要是遇到就完了。。。

作者: Heather_Lau 时间: 2011-7-27 23:52
这道题的逻辑太绕了.
综合以上结论,我觉得是:如果他有散光,那么他看真人和正常尺寸的画都会变长.(这个其实在他眼中是正常长度)
然后他要作从他眼中看起来正常尺寸的话(他视觉中被拉长的画),其实也就是正常人眼中正常尺寸的画.

这道题请使用elimination.

作者: wizwiz 时间: 2011-9-27 19:34
第一次做逻辑随机选了一道题就选中了这道然后纠结了半个小时。。。。
杯具。。。=W=

作者: ggi1love 时间: 2011-10-9 21:05
表示。个人完全没看懂这题目，但居然做对了-，-神奇的

作者: ayasin 时间: 2013-5-6 07:26
我想Ron已经很好地进行了解释：

Ron的解释：http://www.manhattangmat.com/forums/gmatprep-spanish-painters-t9634.html

basically, the deal is that, if el greco indeed had an astigmatism, the astigmatism would affect his perception of paintings and images in exactly the same way that it would affect his perception of actual people.
so, even if el greco did indeed see artificially elongated bodies when he looked at normal people, he would draw them so that they looked elongated TO HIM -- but, if this were the case, then the drawings would look exactly normal to others!

if you still don't understand, then look through a magnifying glass at a letter, make a copy of the letter (while still looking through the glass), and then take the magnifying glass away. the letters will be the same size.

作者: huihlin 时间: 2016-10-7 12:11

huangyouhuifei 发表于 2011-3-13 00:24
刚做到此题。答案是C。如果他有散光，他看真人就变长，他看正常尺寸的画也变长，正常尺寸画和真人在他看来 ...

同意！

作者: Crystal_Chai 时间: 2016-12-2 23:34

huangyouhuifei 发表于 2011-3-13 00:32
还基于一个假设：一般来说，画家作画的比例尺跟真人比例尺一样。（OG verbal review上给的解释）参考RonPur ...

同意！

作者: Crystal_Chai 时间: 2016-12-2 23:34
2楼3楼正解！！！多谢多谢！！！

作者: edguy 时间: 2016-12-13 19:01
我的理解：正常世界坐标系相对于散光世界坐标系
正常尺寸（比如1m）=El Greco尺寸（2m），
那么EG画出来的东西相对于正常世界是一样的，而现在EG的画比正常的要长，那说明在他画里的正常人更长（这是不可能的）

作者: 闯荡世界的猫 时间: 2017-3-22 11:48
我也刚看完OG这道题，也是被绕的迷迷糊糊的。多亏搜到了各位前辈的解答。很郁闷的一点是：OG的题目你想咋绕都行，正了说反了说都可以，不说人话也行。为什么后面的expalnation不能说的通熟易懂一点，那解释我愣是反复看了三遍，没懂。好了，牢骚发完，继续回去啃书了。

作者: CathyGYM 时间: 2017-6-27 11:38
但是，散光的人看到的一定比正常尺寸长吗，只能说是变形，说不定是缩短的？怎么解释？

作者: 郑泡泡 时间: 2017-12-22 11:24

CathyGYM 发表于 2017-6-27 11:38
但是，散光的人看到的一定比正常尺寸长吗，只能说是变形，说不定是缩短的？怎么解释？ ...

不论是缩短还是延长，EI画出来的画像一定是和真人一样的情况下才会使得，他脑子里的看到的真人，和他脑子里看到的自己的画是一样的。但现在他的画像和真人不一样。

作者: Shelly0708 时间: 2021-12-29 23:10
没想到2021年底了，这道题依然是个神题，2022年OG里面的例子，跪了。。。

作者: Gmaaa700+ 时间: 2022-11-17 13:49

Shelly0708 发表于 2021-12-29 23:10
没想到2021年底了，这道题依然是个神题，2022年OG里面的例子，跪了。。。

哈哈哈哈22年年底看到了来找的看到大家都被绕到了我就平衡些了

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