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作者: lhnstefsun 时间: 2011-1-9 13:36
标题: OG12~CR~121求助啊~
121.Codex Berinensis, a Florentine copy of an ancient
Roman medical treatise,.is undated but contains clues
to when it was produced. Its first 80 pages are by a
single copyist, but the remaining 20 pages are by
three different copyists, which indicates some
significant disruption. Since a letter in handwriting
identified as that of the fourth copyist mentions a
plague that killed many people in Florence in 1148,
Codex Berinensis was probably produced in that year.
Which of the following, if true, most strongly supports
the hypothesis that Codex Berinensis was produced
in 1148?
(A)Other than Codex Berinensis, there are no
known samples of the handwriting of the first
three copyists.
(B)According to the account by the fourth copyist,
the plague went on for 10 months.
(C)A scribe would be able to copy a page of text
the size and style of Codex Berinensis in a day.
(D)There was only one outbreak of plague in
Florence in the 1100s.
(E)The number of pages of Codex Berinensis
produced by a single scribe becomes smaller
with each successive change of copyist.
答案选D,我实在是看不清里面的逻辑关系,为什么 a letter in handwriting
identified as that of the fourth copyist mentions a plague that killed many people in Florence in 1148就可以断定它产生于1148年呢?
作者: 花子落落 时间: 2011-1-9 16:28
http://forum.topway.org/viewthread.php?tid=159448
你看看有没有帮助吧~
作者: lhnstefsun 时间: 2011-1-9 17:22
那个网址我上不去~~
作者: pennybehappy 时间: 2011-1-10 18:13
同问。。。。。。
作者: lonelyorchid 时间: 2011-1-11 13:40
121.Codex Berinensis, a Florentine copy of an ancient
Roman medical treatise,.is undated but contains clues
to when it was produced. Its first 80 pages are by a
single copyist, but the remaining 20 pages are by
three different copyists, which indicates some
significant disruption. Since a letter in handwriting
identified as that of the fourth copyist mentions a
plague that killed many people in Florence in 1148,
Codex Berinensis was probably produced in that year.
Which of the following, if true, most strongly supports
the hypothesis that Codex Berinensis was produced
in 1148?
(A)Other than Codex Berinensis, there are no
known samples of the handwriting of the first
three copyists.
(B)According to the account by the fourth copyist,
the plague went on for 10 months.
(C)A scribe would be able to copy a page of text
the size and style of Codex Berinensis in a day.
(D)There was only one outbreak of plague in
Florence in the 1100s.
(E)The number of pages of Codex Berinensis
produced by a single scribe becomes smaller
with each successive change of copyist.
答案选D,我实在是看不清里面的逻辑关系,为什么 a letter in handwriting
identified as that of the fourth copyist mentions a plague that killed many people in Florence in 1148就可以断定它产生于1148年呢?-- by 会员 lhnstefsun (2011/1/9 13:36:29)
楼主太善良了,完全被GMAC骗了呀……
a letter in handwriting identified as that of the fourth copyist mentions a plague that killed many people in Florence in 1148中只有1148年有用,其他都是废话呀。这句话对全文的贡献是:我们有确切的证据表明1148年发生过一次瘟疫。至于,证据是什么,这不应是Taker关心的事情。
原文的逻辑是
前提:
1、手稿换人,说明人死了,原因是瘟疫
2、我们知道1148年有一次瘟疫
结论:
手稿写于1148年 <= 这才是结论
所以很明显其间有一个假设,历史上只有这一次瘟疫
作者: 鱼鱼没有水 时间: 2011-3-12 18:53
楼上讲的我不懂啊,我觉得1100和1148完全无关 除了瘟疫有点关系哎 跪求详解
作者: xibao 时间: 2011-3-26 04:37
楼上讲的我不懂啊,我觉得1100和1148完全无关 除了瘟疫有点关系哎 跪求详解
-- by 会员 鱼鱼没有水 (2011/3/12 18:53:36)
你那里不懂啊 是1100S。。。
作者: since1989miss 时间: 2011-5-5 16:02
121.Codex Berinensis, a Florentine copy of an ancient
Roman medical treatise,.is undated but contains clues
to when it was produced. Its first 80 pages are by a
single copyist, but the remaining 20 pages are by
three different copyists, which indicates some
significant disruption. Since a letter in handwriting
identified as that of the fourth copyist mentions a
plague that killed many people in Florence in 1148,
Codex Berinensis was probably produced in that year.
Which of the following, if true, most strongly supports
the hypothesis that Codex Berinensis was produced
in 1148?
(A)Other than Codex Berinensis, there are no
known samples of the handwriting of the first
three copyists.
(B)According to the account by the fourth copyist,
the plague went on for 10 months.
(C)A scribe would be able to copy a page of text
the size and style of Codex Berinensis in a day.
(D)There was only one outbreak of plague in
Florence in the 1100s.
(E)The number of pages of Codex Berinensis
produced by a single scribe becomes smaller
with each successive change of copyist.
答案选D,我实在是看不清里面的逻辑关系,为什么 a letter in handwriting
identified as that of the fourth copyist mentions a plague that killed many people in Florence in 1148就可以断定它产生于1148年呢?-- by 会员 lhnstefsun (2011/1/9 13:36:29)
楼主太善良了,完全被GMAC骗了呀……
a letter in handwriting identified as that of the fourth copyist mentions a plague that killed many people in Florence in 1148中只有1148年有用,其他都是废话呀。这句话对全文的贡献是:我们有确切的证据表明1148年发生过一次瘟疫。至于,证据是什么,这不应是Taker关心的事情。
原文的逻辑是
前提:
1、手稿换人,说明人死了,原因是瘟疫
2、我们知道1148年有一次瘟疫
结论:
手稿写于1148年 <= 这才是结论
所以很明显其间有一个假设,历史上只有这一次瘟疫-- by 会员 lonelyorchid (2011/1/11 13:40:25)
太精彩了~给力!!我也被饶进去了,感谢!
作者: 莉小莉 时间: 2011-7-27 23:16
121.Codex Berinensis, a Florentine copy of an ancient
Roman medical treatise,.is undated but contains clues
to when it was produced. Its first 80 pages are by a
single copyist, but the remaining 20 pages are by
three different copyists, which indicates some
significant disruption. Since a letter in handwriting
identified as that of the fourth copyist mentions a
plague that killed many people in Florence in 1148,
Codex Berinensis was probably produced in that year.
Which of the following, if true, most strongly supports
the hypothesis that Codex Berinensis was produced
in 1148?
(A)Other than Codex Berinensis, there are no
known samples of the handwriting of the first
three copyists.
(B)According to the account by the fourth copyist,
the plague went on for 10 months.
(C)A scribe would be able to copy a page of text
the size and style of Codex Berinensis in a day.
(D)There was only one outbreak of plague in
Florence in the 1100s.
(E)The number of pages of Codex Berinensis
produced by a single scribe becomes smaller
with each successive change of copyist.
答案选D,我实在是看不清里面的逻辑关系,为什么 a letter in handwriting
identified as that of the fourth copyist mentions a plague that killed many people in Florence in 1148就可以断定它产生于1148年呢?-- by 会员 lhnstefsun (2011/1/9 13:36:29)
楼主太善良了,完全被GMAC骗了呀……
a letter in handwriting identified as that of the fourth copyist mentions a plague that killed many people in Florence in 1148中只有1148年有用,其他都是废话呀。这句话对全文的贡献是:我们有确切的证据表明1148年发生过一次瘟疫。至于,证据是什么,这不应是Taker关心的事情。
原文的逻辑是
前提:
1、手稿换人,说明人死了,原因是瘟疫
2、我们知道1148年有一次瘟疫
结论:
手稿写于1148年 <= 这才是结论
所以很明显其间有一个假设,历史上只有这一次瘟疫-- by 会员 lonelyorchid (2011/1/11 13:40:25)
题目中确实提到换人,也提到了瘟疫。但是不一定就能推出死于瘟疫啊。只是有这个可能性,为什么就变成后面推理的前提了呢?
求大牛解答 =)
作者: q1weruqt 时间: 2011-7-31 09:45
e怎么错了?有瘟疫每个人写的内容越来越少。
说明大家都得病了,相继死去,最后的一个人坚持写完了。
求大神gg,散修dd,仙女mm指导
作者: xiaoqiaoli 时间: 2011-8-5 11:23
e怎么错了?有瘟疫每个人写的内容越来越少。
说明大家都得病了,相继死去,最后的一个人坚持写完了。
求大神gg,散修dd,仙女mm指导
-- by 会员 q1weruqt (2011/7/31 9:45:51)
每个人写的内容的多少与人是否得瘟疫没有任何关系。如果说最后三个人都是得瘟疫而死,那么他们写的页数可以是10,2,,8,也可以是7,8,5。
写的内容越来越少与瘟疫无关,那么就更与CB是哪一年写成的无关了。
所以,无法support。
作者: ViannaLIN 时间: 2011-8-22 17:07
我是这么理解地:
首先找出作者的推理链(hypothesis):
different copyist[premise1]--> significant disruption(the plague in 1148)[premise2] -->[conclusion]the treatise produced at the time the disruption occurred. 可以看出该链有个GAP,即从第二条推出第三条的时候,若PLAGUE不止一次呢?
作者: ccronaldo 时间: 2011-8-22 17:30
文章给的前提是1148年有瘟疫 结论是那东西产自1148年 ls的想法不太理性 每个人写的越来越少 并不能直接推出他们得病了 或者是别的事呢
作者: onlysilence222 时间: 2011-9-11 16:00
擦……gmac真是脑子有包啊!!!
作者: 能量毛豆儿 时间: 2011-11-8 04:54
1. 推理:出现瘟疫-->>换copyist-->>probably produced in that year
2. 但是如果1100S出现过几次瘟疫,那么以上推理链就不成立了。(不然我们怎么知道到底是哪次瘟疫换的COPYIST)
3. 答案提供了:1100S 只有一次瘟疫!-->>>根据原文就是1148的那次--->>>produced in 1848
4. 解答完毕
作者: ldxwd19891012 时间: 2011-11-8 20:19
20页很好完成,却有两个copyist连续没搞定。在假设一个挂掉另一个接上的前提下,一定是两个都出事了。GMAC接着假设这个事件是plague。那么如果发生过很多次plague,那么我们无法确定到底哪次两个全死了,第三个写完。所以应该只发生一次plague才行。这次plague恰好与文中所给1148年的那个相吻合。可知第三个也就是最后一个copyist接手后在那一年(1148)轻松完成了最后几页。这里又来了个推论,就是GMAC推论完成copy即PRODUCE.呼呼,解答完毕。
作者: qzhang17 时间: 2012-1-12 08:10
what about choice B?
Is it wrong because of "account by"?
作者: bank11 时间: 2012-1-26 16:33
what about choice B?
Is it wrong because of "account by"?
-- by 会员 qzhang17 (2012/1/12 8:10:58)
跟“account by ”没关系啊。是“10 months”这个时间与有几次disruption无关,进而与确定cb是否在1148年完成无关~
作者: 我是新生 时间: 2012-1-26 17:58
我也是被坑了。。。GMAC不是人啊
作者: 小小的羽绒衣 时间: 2012-2-27 09:55
就算只有一次瘟疫就可以知道是在1148完成的么?也可能是1148的瘟疫死了前三个,最后一个是1149或是以后完成的呀。。。求指导。。
作者: justeva 时间: 2012-2-29 15:51
为毛我看了大家的讨论不厚道的笑了···· 我也错啦··· GMAC一坨屎不不不我才是一坨屎···
作者: FFFFFanfan 时间: 2012-7-2 20:50
看了ls我也笑了。。。
作者: myzhan 时间: 2012-8-3 22:30
我也是纠结在这里,又不一定是在1148年?难道是我对那个produced理解有偏差?还是所谓,逻辑题中只能选最好的,而不是没错的@@
作者: charlesyu 时间: 2012-10-7 02:58
同意楼上。
GMAC的逻辑是这样的:根据一些原因做了一个推论,问几个答案中哪一个最能支持?至于说支持完了以后,是否就论证完美了,那是另一回事,就像前面有同学提到的缺陷:为什么说换人就一定是死于瘟疫?为什么就一定是1148,而不是1149?这些不重要,很可能支持完了论证还是有问题。但是我们能从几个选项中,找到一个相对最支持的,就好了。
这就是GMAC的逻辑,我们不能期望题目出得很完美。
作者: zhj1988428 时间: 2012-10-7 11:35
ls说的太有道理了,若要真正做到论证滴水不漏,怕不是几行的文字能说清楚的,最靠谱的只有排除法和比较法,难题几乎都是难在这里,分数差距也是在这里,有没有耐心rule out other choices (我想说的是有没有时间读懂。。。。)
作者: 452272330 时间: 2013-8-15 12:30
lonelyorchid 发表于 2011-1-11 13:40
121.Codex Berinensis, a Florentine copy of an ancientRoman medical treatise,.is undated but conta ...
你的意思是发生了两次瘟疫,还是前提1中的人死了的那次瘟疫和1148年的瘟疫是同一场(题目没有说是同一场瘟疫)?
作者: oc16chan 时间: 2013-9-4 00:59
452272330 发表于 2013-8-15 12:30
你的意思是发生了两次瘟疫,还是前提1中的人死了的那次瘟疫和1148年的瘟疫是同一场(题目没有说是同一场 ...
其实我觉得楼上的回复都没打中要点,因为我们不是native speaker可能会遗漏题干里的一些要点。题干里的原话是4th copyist "mentioned a plague that killed many people in 1148"而不是“mentioned that a plague killed many people in 1148",这里的意思不一样。第一个(原文)说提到了瘟疫,没说年代,第二个说的是4th copyis直接说了1148年这个年代。所以很明显,题目本身已经在暗示1148年发生过鼠疫,就说书是那年完成的,逻辑gap就是4th copyist提到的鼠疫是1148那一次鼠疫。
A:4th是最后一个完成誊写的
B:4th提到了鼠疫
C:1148发生过鼠疫
结论:书是1148年完成的。A+B+C+”提到的鼠疫就是1148鼠疫“=结论。
可能有人的疑问在于,以上的逻辑成立了又怎么了,也可能最后一个人花了5年才写完啊。不是完全没可能,虽然做逻辑的时候要infer as little as possible,但是这个时候我们可以做一个合理的假设,(OG解释里也有提到)一个作品花了4个人去完成,肯定是部大著和红楼梦一般,诶,结果好像不是,就一个誊写,抄东西都要4个人,那肯定要抄很厚的一本书了,诶,结果好像也不是就100页,100页不用说4个人了,一个人我两天可能都能抄完,所以肯定有鬼,这不,最后一个提到鼠疫,那么鼠疫可可能干掉了其他几个抄写的人了(说明1148至少已经有人在抄了),那么写完肯定不用太久,当年就能抄完了。
作者: binglunwanxzy 时间: 2014-5-21 10:30
搜了很多关于这题的帖子,没有让我茅塞顿开的答案。
我来谈谈的我的看法,不是NN,open to discuss
我想很多同学对这道题的逻辑链是很清楚的,问题是卡在了
为什么D支持了结论。
首先题目中的killed many people
many是一个很大的范围。
如果这场瘟疫杀死了无数人但就是没有杀死copyists,
那就是说copyists是在其他瘟疫中被杀死的,那CB可能就在别的年代被创作。
如果1100s就一场瘟疫的话,说明这场瘟疫杀人无数,
同时也杀死了预期目标:copyists
所以如果1100s只有一场瘟疫,那么CB必定是在1148创作的。
不知道有没有解开大家的疑惑。
作者: lily510 时间: 2014-7-21 12:37
逻辑链很清晰
1disruption
2 plague in 1148
结论 CB was produced in1148
注意原文的but转折,明显暗示这二十页很轻松不用到1149年。开始我也困惑一这里。
27楼解释很详细!
作者: binglunwanxzy 时间: 2014-10-4 11:24
binglunwanxzy 发表于 2014-5-21 10:30
搜了很多关于这题的帖子,没有让我茅塞顿开的答案。
我来谈谈的我的看法,不是NN,open to discuss
茅塞顿开!!!!!!!!!!!
作者: Hendy 时间: 2014-12-7 02:20
binglunwanxzy 发表于 2014-5-21 10:30
搜了很多关于这题的帖子,没有让我茅塞顿开的答案。
我来谈谈的我的看法,不是NN,open to discuss
a little understand
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