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作者: zcx    时间: 2004-5-10 10:16
标题: 请教:og198

198. Although Napoleon’s army entered Russia with far more supplies than they had in their previous campaigns, it had provisions for only twenty-four days.


(A) they had in their previous campaigns


(B) their previous campaigns had had


(C) they had for any previous campaign


(D) in their previous campaignsE


(E) for any previous campaign


If than is followed by a clause referring to army, the subject of that clause must be singular (it). Furthermore, the verb of that clause will need to be in the past perfect form (had had) because it refers to a time before the simple past of entered. Finally, the preposition for is more precise than in because supplies are gathered for an upcoming campaign. Choices A and C incorrectly use the plural they and the simple past had. Moreover, A uses the less precise in. Choices D and E wisely dispense with the full clause and use a simple prepositional phrase. D, however, uses the imprecise in and the plural their. Only E, the best choice, avoids all the errors mentioned above.



最近狂啃og,越看问题越多.请教此题的比较问什么than后不补出those指代supplies呢?印象中好像除了比较的是主语外,其他都应该加代词的?此题这样的结构没有歧义么?


作者: tianwan    时间: 2004-5-10 20:18

1,those和that只能替代,而且只在that of和those of时用。

2,Although Napoleon’s army entered Russia with far more supplies than they had in their previous campaigns, it had provisions for only twenty-four days. 这个it决定了A,B,C,D都是错的。

3,than和as在比较时,都有代词的性质,后面可以直接加介词短语。


作者: zcx    时间: 2004-5-11 09:22
以下是引用tianwan在2004-5-10 20:18:00的发言:

1,those和that只能替代,而且只在that of和those of时用。


2,Although Napoleon’s army entered Russia with far more supplies than they had in their previous campaigns, it had provisions for only twenty-four days. 这个it决定了A,B,C,D都是错的。偶明白,但是og地解释其实也是在强调是supplies for previous campaigns,那为什么不加上supplies或those呢?


3,than和as在比较时,都有代词的性质,后面可以直接加介词短语。——请教这是什么意思?




作者: philikittist    时间: 2004-5-11 10:18

2,Although Napoleon’s army entered Russia with far more supplies than they had in their previous campaigns, it had provisions for only twenty-four days. 这个it决定了A,B,C,D都是错的。偶明白,但是og地解释其实也是在强调是supplies for previous campaigns,那为什么不加上supplies或those呢?

可以省略吧。

3,than和as在比较时,都有代词的性质,后面可以直接加介词短语。——请教这是什么意思?

同问。


作者: tianwan    时间: 2004-6-10 23:34

不好意思,才看到。

Although Napoleon’s army entered Russia with far more supplies than (it had had )for any previous campaign, it had provisions for only twenty-four days.

than有关系代词的性质,在比较分句中作宾语。本题的答案中省略了从句的主谓语。


作者: hanson_luo    时间: 2004-7-18 00:49

那什么情况下直接加介词短语,什么情况下要补出从句的主谓语?


作者: tuzq    时间: 2005-2-16 14:15
以下是引用tianwan在2004-6-10 23:34:00的发言:

不好意思,才看到。


Although Napoleon’s army entered Russia with far more supplies than (it had had )for any previous campaign, it had provisions for only twenty-four days.


than有关系代词的性质,在比较分句中作宾语。本题的答案中省略了从句的主谓语。



than后面不是需要平行吗?我觉得应该补成:


Although Napoleon’s army entered Russia with far more supplies than (it had entered Russia with )for any previous campaign, it had provisions for only twenty-four days.


不知道是不是? 但是OG里没有提到另外几个答案用 it had/ it had had的错误。 望指教。


作者: tuzq    时间: 2005-2-19 00:56
up。多谢!
作者: smartcoco    时间: 2005-5-18 04:51
以下是引用tianwan在2004-6-10 23:34:00的发言:

不好意思,才看到。


Although Napoleon’s army entered Russia with far more supplies than (it had had )for any previous campaign, it had provisions for only twenty-four days.


than有关系代词的性质,在比较分句中作宾语。本题的答案中省略了从句的主谓语。


是不是应该改成:


Although Napoleon’s army entered Russia with far more supplies than (it had had suppies )for any previous campaign, it had provisions for only twenty-four days.


总是不明白than在比较句型中什么时候是代词、什么时候只是比较句型中的连词?


作者: foreinter    时间: 2005-7-3 08:52

我的看法请大家讨论,


我觉得全部补全应该是这样的


Although Napoleon’s army entered Russia with far more supplies than (supplies that) it had had for any previous campaign, it had provisions for only twenty-four days.


由于than,as 在比较结构中可以引导定语从句,括号中的部分可以省略,这与ETS的解释一致:“If than is followed by a clause referring to army, the subject of that clause must be singular (it).


同样这句话这样表达也没错,Although Napoleon’s army entered Russia with far more supplies than (supplies) for any previous campaign, it had provisions for only twenty-four days.


介词短语修饰名词。由于是名词与名词的比较supplies 可以省略。





作者: mko    时间: 2005-12-5 07:09
Although Napoleon's army enterend Russia with far more supplies than (supplies) for any previous campaign, ...
同意楼上,比较的是supplies

作者: tdyg    时间: 2006-1-25 21:21
以下是引用foreinter在2005-7-3 8:52:00的发言:

我的看法请大家讨论,


我觉得全部补全应该是这样的


Although Napoleon’s army entered Russia with far more supplies than (supplies that) it had had for any previous campaign, it had provisions for only twenty-four days.


由于than,as 在比较结构中可以引导定语从句,括号中的部分可以省略,这与ETS的解释一致:“If than is followed by a clause referring to army, the subject of that clause must be singular (it).


同样这句话这样表达也没错,Although Napoleon’s army entered Russia with far more supplies than (supplies) for any previous campaign, it had provisions for only twenty-four days.


介词短语修饰名词。由于是名词与名词的比较supplies 可以省略。





找到了一个知音。


作者: carlito    时间: 2006-1-26 09:44
我当时也觉得这个题有点问题,但现在感觉有点眉目了!谢谢牛牛!
作者: susancheng    时间: 2006-5-19 00:53

thanks!


作者: 期待蔚蓝    时间: 2006-11-5 21:24

以下是引用foreinter在2005-7-3 8:52:00的发言:

Although Napoleon’s army entered Russia with far more supplies than (supplies that) it had had for any previous campaign, it had provisions for only twenty-four days.

到底是it had had supplies 还是 supplies that it had had?

我觉得是第一个吧?


作者: llqq525    时间: 2007-3-6 06:41
以下是引用foreinter在2005-7-3 8:52:00的发言:

我的看法请大家讨论,

我觉得全部补全应该是这样的

Although Napoleon’s army entered Russia with far more supplies than (supplies that) it had had
                
for any previous campaign, it had provisions for only twenty-four days.

由于than,as 在比较结构中可以引导定语从句,括号中的部分可以省略,这与ETS的解释一致:“If than is followed by a clause referring to army, the subject of that clause must be singular (it).
            

同样这句话这样表达也没错,Although Napoleon’s army entered Russia with far more supplies than (supplies) for any previous campaign, it had provisions for only twenty-four days.

介词短语修饰名词。由于是名词与名词的比较supplies 可以省略。

1、这个说法好像有点问题,ETS的解释说if than is followed by a clause referring to army,可见than后面的从句应修饰army(it),而不是supplies,我认为补全应该是

Although Napoleon’s army entered Russia with far more supplies than  it had with supplies for any previous campaign, it had provisions for only twenty-four days.

不知道对不对,请指正。

2、另外,我还有一个问题,如果句中用for any previous campaign,那不是应该用比较级的最高级吗?


作者: yoyobaobao    时间: 2007-3-6 12:11

虽然是老帖子了,还是请大家帮帮忙,感谢!


作者: 遥远的绿洲    时间: 2007-3-6 12:27

it had with肯定不对,it had entered ... with还差不多

for any previous campaign, previous决定了是现在和以前进行比较,所以不用最高级


作者: yoyobaobao    时间: 2007-3-7 08:10
以下是引用遥远的绿洲在2007-3-6 12:27:00的发言:

it had with肯定不对,it had entered ... with还差不多

for any previous campaign, previous决定了是现在和以前进行比较,所以不用最高级

感谢斑竹百忙中的回复和指点,但我还是有点疑惑。

首先我明白了it had with肯定不对,这成了过去时了,而这里需要的是过去完成时,那么it had had with对不对呢?对于斑竹说的it had entered...with我以前考虑过,但是entered后面又如何补全呢?entered Russia 应该不对吧,比较的不是两次进入Russia拥有的补给支比,如果补上entered other country,那么后面的for any previous campaign又该与谁去比较呢?

另外,for any previous campaign, previous决定了是现在和以前进行比较,所以不用最高级,我想问一下,如果是现在和以前的任何一场战役相比,为什么不用最高级呢?


作者: 遥远的绿洲    时间: 2007-3-7 08:23

it had后面的成分我觉得可以自由想象,不用拘泥于entered等等,只要表现出是现在的和以前任何一次战役比较就可以

如果要用最高级,一定要把自己也包括进去,the most... of all the campaign才是对的


作者: hhjc    时间: 2007-8-3 15:46
up
作者: vivian_huang    时间: 2007-8-6 20:59

 up! 

还是不太明白为什么E可以阿,老贴开花了,大家多帮忙啊

 

198.
       
Although Napoleon’s army entered Russia with far more supplies than
        they had in their previous campaigns,
[vivian1]  it had provisions for only twenty-four days.

(A) they
       had in their previous campaigns

(B) their previous campaigns had had

(C) they
       had for any previous campaign

(D) in their previous campaignsE

(E) for any previous campaign


 [vivian1]划线部分紧跟在than的后面,预测其考点在于比较级;

比较级常见的考核是其比较对象的可比性问题;

另外考核特殊语法点:army被指代时用单数;

Supply + for而不用in

 

 


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作者: shirky2009    时间: 2007-10-8 00:33

关于这题,我觉得可以如下补充句子完整

Although Napoleon’s army entered Russia with far more supplies (for that compaign ) than for any previous campaign , ....

根据保证比较对象的形式对称的原则,for that compaign 和for any previous campaign 相比对称

than 后面的逻辑主语还是Army,没有冲突 .

望大家指正


作者: noss    时间: 2007-10-8 14:51
如果单是选择的话,E最简洁了,而且从后面it的使用,就可以排除其他,只有前面句子结构的补足,就看看nn们的讨论吧
作者: dormousedzc    时间: 2007-12-5 00:32

XDF说像any这样的强烈语气词,是不能增减的,这里原文中并没有,正确选项中却加上了.晕


作者: 卖菜熊    时间: 2008-2-14 17:30
以下是引用dormousedzc在2007-12-5 0:32:00的发言:

XDF说像any这样的强烈语气词,是不能增减的,这里原文中并没有,正确选项中却加上了.晕

我想XDF不会说的那么绝对吧,顶多也就说不能“随意”增减。

而且这里any不是考点啊,另外四个选项有更严重的指代错误么,肯定要选最合适的一个咯。


作者: rpch2004    时间: 2008-7-31 19:58
以下是引用期待蔚蓝在2006-11-5 21:24:00的发言:

以下是引用foreinter在2005-7-3 8:52:00的发言:

Although Napoleon’s army entered Russia with far more supplies than (supplies that) it had had for any previous campaign, it had provisions for only twenty-four days.

到底是it had had supplies 还是 supplies that it had had?

我觉得是第一个吧?

是后者,因为more后面加supplied,所以than后也加supplied会比较对称


作者: shaoheng1120    时间: 2011-12-27 14:16
看了几遍OG,还是有问题。真是老帖开花——也不知最后大家解决这个问题没有。有的话请各位告诉我一声,多谢。
我的想法:
起初看C,咋看咋想,但是they和it根本不符合,而且确实应该使用had had 做谓语。
若C改成:it had had(supplies)for any previous campaign,就正确了,但是时态不同,it had had 不能省略啊,怎么也想不通会是E。
转念,何况这样并不能与让步从句平行。
应该改为 Although Napoleon’s army entered Russia with far more supplies (for that campaign)than it had entered(anywhere)with supplies for any campaign,it...
这样才是真正平行,但是文中没有给出where is anywhere.只能放弃。
再转念,
E若要正确,必须省略前面相同成分,而且必须与for连接合适。而more...than 结构不一定非得句子之间对比,也可能主语、宾语、表语以及任何合理的比较。本题是应该状语比较。
Although Napoleon’s army entered Russia with far more supplies (for that campaign)than  (supplies) for any campaign,it...
由于两个supplies相同所以省略than后面的。

大家怎么看?求斧正啊。
作者: shaoheng1120    时间: 2011-12-28 16:42
我顶顶顶~围观啊
作者: 浅浅123    时间: 2012-3-13 14:38
看了几遍OG,还是有问题。真是老帖开花——也不知最后大家解决这个问题没有。有的话请各位告诉我一声,多谢。
我的想法:
起初看C,咋看咋想,但是they和it根本不符合,而且确实应该使用had had 做谓语。
若C改成:it had had(supplies)for any previous campaign,就正确了,但是时态不同,it had had 不能省略啊,怎么也想不通会是E。
转念,何况这样并不能与让步从句平行。
应该改为 Although Napoleon’s army entered Russia with far more supplies (for that campaign)than it had entered(anywhere)with supplies for any campaign,it...
这样才是真正平行,但是文中没有给出where is anywhere.只能放弃
你这边说的很对的啊,这里就是状语的比较啊为什么不能说多次进入Russia呢
再转念,
E若要正确,必须省略前面相同成分,而且必须与for连接合适。而more...than 结构不一定非得句子之间对比,也可能主语、宾语、表语以及任何合理的比较。本题是应该状语比较    正确
Although Napoleon’s army entered Russia with far more supplies (for that campaign)整个句子的状语than  (supplies) for any campaign(supplies的定语,it...
由于两个supplies相同所以省略than后面的。

大家怎么看?求斧正啊。
-- by 会员 shaoheng1120 (2011/12/27 14:16:53)


作者: wangjieava23    时间: 2012-3-13 15:42


作者: wangjieava23    时间: 2012-4-21 15:07
不好意思,才看到。
Although Napoleon’s army entered Russia with far more supplies than (it had had )for any previous campaign, it had provisions for only twenty-four days.
than有关系代词的性质,在比较分句中作宾语。本题的答案中省略了从句的主谓语。
-- by 会员 tianwan (2004/6/10 23:34:00)



这个是对的。 自己竟瞎说。
作者: z53495532    时间: 2012-10-27 10:25
不好意思,才看到。
Although Napoleon’s army entered Russia with far more supplies than (it had had )for any previous campaign, it had provisions for only twenty-four days.
than有关系代词的性质,在比较分句中作宾语。本题的答案中省略了从句的主谓语。
-- by 会员 tianwan (2004/6/10 23:34:00)




这个是对的。 自己竟瞎说。
-- by 会员 wangjieava23 (2012/4/21 15:07:08)


明白了明白了,than 做代词指代 supplies,  It had 因为跟后面主语的 it had 相同省略掉了,但我觉得这样的题考试时候根本想不到这一块啊,也只能通过其他的错误点来排了,
作者: zwhjzwhj    时间: 2013-7-23 13:42
这句话就集中在原句究竟省略了什么。

看了全部回帖,感觉下面这种说法对。
with far more supplies than (it had had )

with决定了,还是比较主语,即比较army with far more supplies 和 (army with a few supplies) for any previous campaign.





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