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作者: ca3ltoys 时间: 2004-5-7 02:20
标题: 现在分词局尾表伴随的疑问

现在总结些东西,有两个疑问,请牛牛确定.

1. differentiate from / differentiate between A and B 的区别:

用法上有区别,前者通常为 A differentiate from B, 指 A区别于B; 而后者通常为某人differentiate between A and B.

2. 关于现在分词局尾表伴随的疑问, 如下例:

I walk my dog that usually walk with me after dinner, eating some snack.

这里现在分词应跟主句动作伴随还是跟从句?还是象某些大虾经常所指示的根据具体句意判断?

作者: lshine 时间: 2004-5-7 02:42

1. In my opinion, "distinguish / differentiate A from B" is almost equal to "distinguish / differentiate between A and B." isn't is? Different uses are based on different contexts, I guess.

2. I think "还是象某些大虾经常所指示的根据具体句意判断" is correct. well, it might be confused sometimes.

作者: ca3ltoys 时间: 2004-5-7 06:20
那按照老兄的意思,上面的例句中是谁eating some snack, I or my dog???

作者: LES 时间: 2004-5-7 11:37

Two good questions!

One more phrase for the 1st question, what's the difference between discriminate A from B and discriminate between A and B.

Waiting for the explanations!

作者: jnlvo 时间: 2004-5-7 17:39

ca3ltoys

我想问问这句I walk my dog that usually walk with me after dinner, eating some snack.你是从哪儿看来的？

作者: ca3ltoys 时间: 2004-5-8 00:40
我在大全里看到过一个类似的句子,当时笔记只记了这么个问题,为了使问题更加明显,本人自己造了这么个句子.请指教.

作者: jnlvo 时间: 2004-5-8 00:53

最好能把原句找出来。我认为1. 从意思判断：主句+that+从句，doing sth.中doing意思可能只跟其中之一有逻辑关系，另一个明显不对。2. 如果如你所举的这句，我认为在gmat中可能是错误选项，因为它造成了歧义，应该避免这种情况的发生。

我在做princeton的时候碰到过类似的题目，我记得一个选项that从句, doing就是错的。具体的记不清了。

作者: ca3ltoys 时间: 2004-5-8 01:01

OG120. The Parthenon was a church from 1204 until 1456, when Athens was taken by General Mohammed the Conqueror, the Turkish sultan, who established a mosque in the building and used the Acropolis as a fortress.
(A) who established a mosque in the building and used the Acropolis as
(B) who, establishing a mosque in the building, used the Acropolis like
(C) who, when he had established a mosque in the building, used the Acropolis like
(D) who had established a mosque in the building, using the Acropolis to be
(E) establishing a mosque in the building and using the Acropolis as

这里选项E的错误是:and in E, establishing and using modify Athens, thus producing an absurd statement.感觉ETS认为现在分词句末就是修饰主句的,而不是根据具体意思来定.是不是有现在分词和定语从句的选项. 1. 简单句选现在分词,因为简洁.2. 如果是复杂句,现在分词容易造成歧义的,就避免,而用从句.???

作者: jnlvo 时间: 2004-5-8 09:25

你所说“ETS认为现在分词句末就是修饰主句”，此时的主句是The Parthenon was a church from 1204 until 1456，所以establishing a mosque in the building and using the Acropolis 没有修饰主句，还是从句Athens was taken by General Mohammed the Conqueror，只不过此时用了被动，establishing and using感觉像是修饰Athens，而实际应该是General Mohammed the Conqueror。如果此句用了主动，我认为establishing and using也是可接受的。

作者: ca3ltoys 时间: 2004-5-13 00:57

继续求教:

如果答案里有现在分词和定语从句的选项,如上面的例子如您所说用了主动,那么该选哪个?

是否 1. 简单句选现在分词,因为简洁.

2. 如果是复杂句,现在分词容易造成歧义的,就避免,而用从句.???

作者: snyouth 时间: 2004-5-13 13:56

若选分词，则其修饰“Mohammed the Conqueror, the Turkish sultan”；但由于theTurkish sultan是when从句主语，而分词又表示伴随状况，因此整个从句的意思就变成了: the Turkish sultan攻占Athen的同时还建造了a mosque in the building 并将Acropolis用作fortress

作者: mba174 时间: 2004-12-10 06:20
I think it should be judged on a case-by-case basis. example, OG253,the 'slowing' is not modifying the 'analysts' - subj or the 'sales' -obj, but the 'weather'. I also tried to find the rules, anyone canshare his/her findings? Thanks!

OG253 - Analysts blamed May's sluggish retail sales on unexcitingmerchandise as well as the weather, colder and wetter than was usual insome regions. which slowed sales of barbecue grills and lawn furniture.
(A) colder and wetter than was usual in some regions, which slowed
(B) which was colder and wetter than usual in some regions, slowing
(C) since it was colder and wetter than usually in some regions, which slowed
(D) being colder and wetter than usually in some regions, slowing
(E) having been colder and wetter than was usual in some regions and slowed

作者: zhangsolo 时间: 2004-12-10 07:07

以下是引用lshine在2004-5-7 2:42:00的发言：

1. In my opinion, "distinguish / differentiate A from B" is almost equal to "distinguish / differentiate between A and B." isn't is? Different uses are based on different contexts, I guess.

2. I think "还是象某些大虾经常所指示的根据具体句意判断" is correct. well, it might be confused sometimes.

In my view, distinguish/differentiate A from B 与distinguish/differentiate between A and B还是有一点点区别的。

such as: Language distinguish human from animal.

We should distinguish between right and wrong.

一般A和B是意义上平行的话，用后者。

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