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作者: freedownload    时间: 2004-5-1 03:06
标题: [求助]关于require的用法

require sb to do sth


require that


require of sb that


请问有没有require of sb to do sth这种用法,而且,require of sb that后面的使用方法和require that一样吗?只是使用虚拟语气就可以了吗?



例如:OG 109


Legislation in the Canadian province of Ontario requires of both public and private employers that pay be the same for jobs historically held by women as for jobs requiring comparable skill that are usually held by men.


(A)    that pay be the same for jobs historically held by women as for jobs requiring comparable skill that are


(B) that pay for jobs historically held by women should be the same as for a job requiring comparable skills


(C) to pay the same in jobs historically held by women as in jobs of comparable skill that are


(D) to pay the same regardless of whether a job was historically held by women or is one demanding comparable skillsA


(E) to pay as much for jobs historically held by women as for a job demanding comparable skills



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作者: tianwan    时间: 2004-5-1 08:34

惯用法require sth of sb-〉变体require of sb sth,当sth很长的时候。sth可以是sth,名词性从句(not sure)。不知道doing行不行。


require of sb to do偶认为必错。


请指正。


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作者: zcx    时间: 2004-5-1 09:35
tianwan gg, require of sb to do sth 这个词组,ets一会儿支持,一会儿反对,og上说人的是他,说鬼的也是他
作者: tianwan    时间: 2004-5-1 09:53
以下是引用zcx在2004-5-1 9:35:00的发言:
tianwan gg, require of sb to do sth 这个词组,ets一会儿支持,一会儿反对,og上说人的是他,说鬼的也是他

require of sb to do sth ETS没有说是对的呀?只有require sb to to sth 是对的。



作者: dreadpower    时间: 2004-5-1 12:11

   require of sb to do sth肯定错

   因为可以直接用require sb to do sth


作者: jnlvo    时间: 2004-5-1 12:23
require sth. of sb. to do可能可以,不过这里的to do是修饰sb.
作者: jnlvo    时间: 2004-5-1 12:24

参看og181。


作者: vincent0330    时间: 2004-5-1 22:27

OG181.        

Because of the enormous research and development expenditures required (B) of firms to survive in the electronics industry, an industry marked by rapid innovation and volatile demand, such firms tend to be very large.

The subject of the main clause (such firms) presumes a prior reference to the firms in question. Furthermore, the logical subject of to survive and the logical complement of required should be made explicit. All three demands are met by B, the best choice.

但这边的的required是做后置修饰补语用以修饰expenditures, 而OG又提到为了使to survive的主语firm和 required 的补语(expenditures)更为明显, 所以出现(B)这样的一个较佳的选项.

但是这例子是用在Because of的句型做补语的; 所以像平常一样require用在动词形式上, 倒底有没有 require of Sb to do Sth, 偶就不敢百分百肯定了. XDF有提到require的四种用法, 其中之一就是这. 只是偶到现在还是半信半疑的....

还请牛人指点.....


作者: JerryGuan    时间: 2004-5-1 22:43
以下是引用tianwan在2004-5-1 8:34:00的发言:

惯用法require sth of sb-〉变体require of sb sth,当sth很长的时候。sth可以是sth,名词性从句(not sure)。不知道doing行不行。


require of sb to do偶认为必错。


Because of the enormous research and development expenditures( required (B) of firms to survive in the electronics industry), an industry marked by rapid innovation and volatile demand, such firms tend to be very large.

句中的 required (B) of firms to survive in the electronics industry)是作为the enormous research and development expenditures的修饰成分。

调整语序为:required (B) of firms the enormous research and development expenditures to survive in the electronics industry 。

后面的to survive in the electronics industry 是用来修饰前面这个required (B) of firms the enormous research and development expenditures

偶觉得:即便有require of sb.sth. to do...这个用法,其中的sth.一定不可以少,另外,to do也一定不是require的逻辑宾语,而是表require目的的不定式。


作者: zcx    时间: 2004-5-2 21:53
以下是引用JerryGuan在2004-5-1 22:43:00的发言:

以下是引用tianwan在2004-5-1 8:34:00的发言:

惯用法require sth of sb-〉变体require of sb sth,当sth很长的时候。sth可以是sth,名词性从句(not sure)。不知道doing行不行。


require of sb to do偶认为必错。


Because of the enormous research and development expenditures( required (B) of firms to survive in the electronics industry), an industry marked by rapid innovation and volatile demand, such firms tend to be very large.

句中的 required (B) of firms to survive in the electronics industry)是作为the enormous research and development expenditures的修饰成分。

调整语序为:required (B) of firms the enormous research and development expenditures to survive in the electronics industry 。

后面的to survive in the electronics industry 是用来修饰前面这个required (B) of firms the enormous research and development expenditures

偶觉得:即便有require of sb.sth. to do...这个用法,其中的sth.一定不可以少,另外,to do也一定不是require的逻辑宾语,而是表require目的的不定式。



gg的话有道理,目的不定式,欧觉得像,og中的109,138,181让偶一都雾水,搞不清楚谁错谁对,偶记得gemj的一个将如何学语法的帖子也说ets阴毒,对这个词说法不一
作者: cmtn    时间: 2004-5-5 12:48

require that
requir of sb that
用虚拟语态,动词原型。

require sb to do
(be) required of sb to do

no "require of sb to do" but "(be) required of sb to do"


作者: drift_er    时间: 2005-8-28 07:36

tianwand的分析有问题


”to survive in the electronics industry “是修饰firms 不是“the enormous research and development expenditures”


作者: erisdeer    时间: 2011-2-6 20:35
对的,这个分析有问题,survive 才是firm发出的动作,这个句型不能这样乱变形。
require sth of sb变形为require of sb sth(sth可以变成句子)这个可以说得通,没有问题!
作者: evanxie9669    时间: 2011-8-28 10:25
tianwand的分析有问题

”to survive in the electronics industry “是修饰firms 不是“the enormous research and development expenditures”
-- by 会员 drift_er (2005/8/28 7:36:00)



我也觉得有问题,如果“sth(be) required of sb to do”是被动语态表示“一些事情被某人要求来,达到某人做某事的目的”的意思的话,为什么不用by sb.而是用of sb.?
作者: wulakuka    时间: 2012-7-6 14:53
以下是引用tianwan在2004-5-1 8:34:00的发言:

惯用法require sth of sb-〉变体require of sb sth,当sth很长的时候。

我觉得可以推出: sth is required of sb例:working hard is often required of us

require of sb to do偶认为必错。

Because of the enormous research and development expenditures( required (B) of firms to survive in the electronics industry), an industry marked by rapid innovation and volatile demand, such firms tend to be very large.
句中的 required (B) of firms to survive in the electronics industry)是作为the enormous research and development expenditures的修饰成分。


调整语序为:required (B) of firms the enormous research and development expenditures to survive in the electronics industry 。
后面的to survive in the electronics industry 是用来修饰前面这个required (B) of firms the enormous research and development expenditures
偶觉得:即便有require of sb.sth. to do...这个用法,其中的sth.一定不可以少,另外,to do也一定不是require的逻辑宾语,而是表require目的的不定式。
-- by 会员 JerryGuan (2004/5/1 22:43:00)







我认为是 (required of firms)和(to survive in the electronics industry)都是(the enormous research and development expenditures)的修饰成分。一个是从require sth of sb的机构中推出,后者是不定式表达目的。这样理解比较简单。
另外我认为to do是定语成分,而不是动词的状语成分。
作者: wulakuka    时间: 2012-7-6 14:56
也就是说还是一个 require sth of sb的结构,就不用考虑后面加不定式的繁琐问题




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