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标题: Jon, need some advice [打印本页]

作者: caopp 时间: 2010-9-28 02:57
标题: Jon, need some advice

Hey there. Absolutely, you should give it a try! J Nobody has great chances at these schools—but with your scores you DO have a shot. We worked with a Chinese client last year with a750 on her GMAT and she got into Wharton (with our help of course). It will help that your GMAT is so high, and that you are a woman. You have a chance, so absolutely you should give it a shot. If you were a man from China with a 700 on the GMAT, for example, our advice would be very different.

Seriously,
I'm a man from China with a 700 on the GMAT

Engineering Background,
worked in China 2 years, in US 2 years, top 10 company
Project management role and recently promoted to leader(No direct report)

Pursue GM track and possibly IB(I won't put that in my essays)

作者: Knockoff 时间: 2010-9-28 02:59
I'm pretty sure he is glad to help you! Good luck!

I'm a man from China with a 700 on the GMAT

-- by 会员 caopp (2010/9/28 2:57:50)

作者: tgtgz 时间: 2010-9-28 08:55
看来Jon的一番话是一石激起千层浪啊，坛子里估计又有人要睡不着了

作者: caopp 时间: 2010-9-28 09:15
ls啥意思啊？俺就咨询个问题，好像被你拔得很高

作者: tgtgz 时间: 2010-9-28 09:23
额，玩笑玩笑，take it easy

作者: cammela 时间: 2010-9-28 10:26
好喜感，马克下
你darden都不去还问Jon神马捏？你是来调戏Jon的
鉴定完毕

作者: caopp 时间: 2010-9-28 10:34
ls的就是捣蛋，我很认真问啊，不知道申请策略应该怎么弄，怎样突出自己优势，回避短处。

作者: cammela 时间: 2010-9-28 10:40

ls的就是捣蛋，我很认真问啊，不知道申请策略应该怎么弄，怎样突出自己优势，回避短处。

-- by 会员 caopp (2010/9/28 10:34:57)

你darden不去我想你还是h和s吧，其他的不适合你

作者: caopp 时间: 2010-9-28 10:45

ls的就是捣蛋，我很认真问啊，不知道申请策略应该怎么弄，怎样突出自己优势，回避短处。

-- by 会员 caopp (2010/9/28 10:34:57)

你darden不去我想你还是h和s吧，其他的不适合你

-- by 会员 cammela (2010/9/28 10:40:56)

不准捣蛋了，一个人的眼界总是有限的，要从别人的视角看问题才会更多收获。 Jon兄给人的申请建议还是很靠谱的。
我确实是gmat软肋，也不太想再考了...

作者: cammela 时间: 2010-9-28 10:52
有自信，看来目标确实是top 3

作者: caopp 时间: 2010-9-28 11:14
拿板凳，等建议。

//睡觉去了，明天再来看。

作者: nkfingineer 时间: 2010-9-28 12:14
To 楼主：

It's better to be rejected by Princeton than by yourself.
——Mr. 李泰伯, the laureate of 高考北京卷 this year

作者: JonFrank 时间: 2010-9-29 12:46
Gosh, it appears that I have caused quite a commotion. J But I am so glad that everyone is checking in, and sharing their expertise! Let’s try to settle this issue once and for all. And remember, there are certain questions where admissions people cannot be fully honest. The issues of quotas, student body mix, etc. is certainly one of them.

One of the greatest lessons I have learned guys, is that this process is at its core a math problem. Most business issues are, at their core, a math problem.

Take for example two identical candidates. They are both from Sri Lanka. They both got 700 on their GMAT. They both went to good undergraduate schools, and they both wrote good essays. But one candidate is a man, and one candidate is a woman. Two IDENTICAL candidates otherwise. Well, the woman has an advantage. Why? Because there are fewer women applying then men. It’s just a math problem.

Lets do this a different way. There are two candidates. They both scored a 700 on the GMAT. They both worked for goldman sachs, and both wrote great essays (with our help of course). But one candidate is from China, and the other is from the Philippines. Other than that, they are two identical candidates. Well, the Philippino has the advantage. Why? Because there are fewer Philippinos applying than Chinese.

I hope this helps my friends. Always remember, most problems can be boiled down to math! But let’s keep the healthy discussing going! It is great to see so many passionate people out there.
Best of luck,

Jon Frank

作者: Knockoff 时间: 2010-9-29 13:17
赞，JF 数学哥

作者: shaoqiye 时间: 2010-9-29 13:45

Frank讲了两个类比的故事，希望可以帮到LZ。
第一个故事是，一个地方来的，女的有优势，似乎全世界通用；
第二个故事是，不同地方来的，非中国人有优势，同上。

天哪，悲哀的中国man！！

-- by 会员 ningchunlong (2010/9/29 13:11:28)

话说比起中国男人来，印度搞IT的男人更悲惨……

作者: lovely12349 时间: 2010-9-29 16:31
中国男人真这么倒霉吗？

作者: usocean 时间: 2010-9-29 16:51

-- by 会员 ningchunlong (2010/9/29 13:11:28)

话说比起中国男人来，印度搞IT的男人更悲惨……

-- by 会员 shaoqiye (2010/9/29 13:45:00)

中国男人确实比较惨，呵呵。人家印度男至少说英文啊
一直觉得印度人是申请英美高校的奇葩啊，明明英语是官方语言但还是按非英语国家算，赚翻了！！

作者: shaoqiye 时间: 2010-9-29 17:01

-- by 会员 ningchunlong (2010/9/29 13:11:28)

话说比起中国男人来，印度搞IT的男人更悲惨……

-- by 会员 shaoqiye (2010/9/29 13:45:00)

-- by 会员 usocean (2010/9/29 16:51:04)

你可以试试印度人的pool，全都是高gmat，高toefl，一水的IT，能要你命……

作者: idle_lie 时间: 2010-9-29 17:27
"With our help of course."
I like you Jon!

作者: lovely12349 时间: 2010-9-29 17:53

不知道同样是750的男生和女生，谁的机会更大？美国申请人的情形和中国申请人的情形能够无差别地进行对等推理吗？
据我看到的一个帖子，一个在校生说挺面试官谈到，中国面试者中70%是女生......不知道是不是普遍现象。不过，我目前接触的申请人中，的确女性偏多！而且美国人近期的一个调查也显示，中国女性的确比美国女性更有进取心。

其他还有一些片断内容，你可以到这个帖子里面去看看，有几个人恰好集中讨论了几句，还好没有被ADMIN判定为灌水：
http://forum.chasedream.com/North_American_MBA/thread-477891-2-1.html

-- by 会员 ningchunlong (2010/9/29 16:44:42)

我也发现了，去MBA tour，感觉女生多！
还是要结合中国国情了，这也是毛泽东思想的精髓。

作者: tgtgz 时间: 2010-9-29 19:13

"With our help of course."
I like you Jon!

-- by 会员 idle_lie (2010/9/29 17:27:23)

5毛党？

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