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标题: 分享一下从某咨询公司VP得到的一些职业建议 [打印本页]

作者: Summer8816 时间: 2010-9-13 06:31
标题: 分享一下从某咨询公司VP得到的一些职业建议
I will give you the same advice I gave my own son many years ago. Go to work for an accounting firm, telling them you want to be on a number of small and medium sized accounts, not full-time on just one large client. Get exposure to a number of different companies, management, business models and other characteristics. You then may want to go to get an MBA, and go into consulting after that, with your strong accounting background. Or you could go to work for one of the companies you have met during your audit experience.

I understand your feeling 'bored' because we all do, at times. You have to look at it as part of the price you pay for growing up and gaining the experience you need to move ahead. I have never heard of anyone who did not feel bored or trapped in their firs or even second entry-level job. It is inevitable, unless your father or uncle owns a large company, and in that case you are starting in the middle, not at the bottom. Otherwise you, like almost everyone else, has to start at the bottom and the bottom in most jobs is boring.

What most people tend to forget, however, is that you can still learn doing the most boring work. Why were you assigned this task? What will it accomplish? How will what you are doing help the company or firm? Is there a better and easier way to do the task(s)? How can I convince my boss and/or the company to let me try it my way if I can get the same results with less effort?

I guess what I am saying, and it is based on my own experience, you can always learn something no matter the task. Just recognize, in advance, that what appears boring or mind-numbing is being done for a reason. It is up to you to discover that reason and then try to improve it.

I am sorry to be so philosophical but I can't help repeating something I heard when I was at your stage in my career. "You can not complain about any assignment until you are doing it not only as well as you can but better than anyone else has ever done it." At that point it is fair to go to your boss, tell him or her what you have done, and ask for a more challenging assignment.

eople who ask for more and different work are very few and far between, and your boss will really appreciate your ambition.

I have helped many people in career planning over the years. I enjoy it and it is part of giving back what I have been very fortunate to have received. So, please continue to contact me if you wish. I really do mean it. You are not imposing, and frankly I respect your willingness to ask for advice. As you may know, a lot of people don't ask for advice when they should!

作者: 孤独的长跑者 时间: 2010-9-13 06:53
不错的建议。成功的必要条件。可惜的是并不充分。

作者: Siegfred 时间: 2010-9-13 08:18
除了第一段之外写的都挺好。特别是关于boring的论述，很中肯。

在国内的话，进accounting firm并不能“Get exposure to a number of different companies, management, business models and other characteristics. "，也不会认识很多公司的高管——外部审计师顶多认识几个部门经理就不错了。

作者: simbasl 时间: 2010-9-13 21:35
就其中职业发展路线的部分，我个人觉得是一个过时了的建议，完全不符合目前的实际情况。会计知识对咨询并非必需，从审计业务中所接触到的公司管理层和公司业务模式了解也很有限。而且，审计做久了的人，其思维模式会受到影响，反而不适合做咨询
就对待boring工作的态度那部分建议，有点道理，但同时不得不说作者有点故弄玄虚，讲的道理太大了。这段说辞要说适用对什么职业都适用，要想反驳也有的是反例。
对大学生来说，咨询是一个很好的职业切入点，但最好是在校期间找机会实习一段时间，了解一下自己到底喜不喜欢、适不适应这种生活，才是最直观的判断方法。光看各种各样建议是没有太多实质意义的

作者: Summer8816 时间: 2010-9-14 05:07

就其中职业发展路线的部分，我个人觉得是一个过时了的建议，完全不符合目前的实际情况。会计知识对咨询并非必需，从审计业务中所接触到的公司管理层和公司业务模式了解也很有限。而且，审计做久了的人，其思维模式会受到影响，反而不适合做咨询
就对待boring工作的态度那部分建议，有点道理，但同时不得不说作者有点故弄玄虚，讲的道理太大了。这段说辞要说适用对什么职业都适用，要想反驳也有的是反例。
对大学生来说，咨询是一个很好的职业切入点，但最好是在校期间找机会实习一段时间，了解一下自己到底喜不喜欢、适不适应这种生活，才是最直观的判断方法。光看各种各样建议是没有太多实质意义的

-- by 会员 simbasl (2010/9/13 21:35:07)

呵呵，CD上的人真是critical~
他那样建议我是因为我是读会计的，所以就业也会是在会计领域，之前没有说明清楚，误导大家了，真是不好意思。
没错，亲身体验才是最直观的判断方法，但是刚毕业的大学生有多少人能够有机会马上进入咨询行业呢？所以听听一些过来人的经验还是挺有帮助的啦~

作者: liuxiaoyin 时间: 2010-10-27 23:30
看了挺受启发的，谢谢楼主哈~~~~不过偶实在对会计米兴趣~~~~

作者: 冬天的冰淇淋 时间: 2012-7-28 14:03
学习了

作者: superak47 时间: 2012-7-31 17:22
我觉得VP说的很好，也是我这两年来的经验。
我想问楼主，是怎么求得这份经验之谈的？

作者: xenia_q 时间: 2015-7-22 13:30

superak47 发表于 2012-7-31 17:22
我觉得VP说的很好，也是我这两年来的经验。我想问楼主，是怎么求得这份经验之谈的？ ...

是的，同问。职业建议很中肯，特别是职业倦怠那块。

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