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作者: rendezvous98 时间: 2010-8-21 05:32
标题: 请教
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作者: disa90210 时间: 2010-8-21 12:38
可以請問一下為什麼要把最喜歡的學校把第二輪嗎?

作者: pumpkin 时间: 2010-8-21 22:10
能够准备好的话，越早申请越好。不一定放第二轮。

学工程背景的女生，在哪里都很好，不见得一定要申请MIT, 伯克利。当然如果楼主特别喜欢那就另当别论。

本人背景：GMAT 760+5
国内本科GPA：3.4/40
欧洲硕士：8.5/10
工作：全球500强
工程背景，
性别：女

正在准备第一轮的申请，听经验的人说把最喜欢的学校放第二轮，所以准备第一轮申请几所，目前在看美国的一些学校，打算前十的申请两所，再申请一所靠后一点但可以提供全额奖学金的，前十考虑MIT， berkeley因为是工程背景，但听说竞争很激烈，因为一堆硅谷的工程师都会申请。
请问大家对具体的选择有建议么？排名靠后点又能拿到全奖的学校有哪些呢？

多谢了

-- by 会员 rendezvous98 (2010/8/21 5:32:20)

作者: JonFrank 时间: 2010-8-21 22:36
Hey there! I would be happy to offer up some guidance. First of all, congratulations on a great profile! You have a great GMAT score and fabulous work experience. Well done! Given your scores, you have a chance to be accepted at ANY school in the US, including HBS and Stanford. And I should know, I graduated from HBS! MIT will be a great program for you, but yes--because it is so focused on engineering (as is Haas) that might be a bit more challenging for you. I would consider Harvard, Kellogg, and Booth for sure. Those will be easier for you to get into.

You will also have a great shot at landing a scholarship at Ross or Tuck--we work with many Chinese people each year that have received such scholarships. I would NOT advise you though to apply to your best schools in Round 2--that doesnt make any sense. Your chances will actually be a bit better in Round 1 than in Round 2. So we suggest that you apply to some more difficult schools, AND some easier schools in Round 1. Mix it up that way, so that you benefit from the fact that Round 1 acceptances are easier.

I hope this help--let us know what more we can do!

Jon Frank
Founder,
HBS Class of 2005

作者: 骚毛裤 时间: 2010-8-21 23:26
没恶意哈我想请问一下是如何看出lz的fabulous exp的？？

Hey there! I would be happy to offer up some guidance. First of all, congratulations on a great profile! You have a great GMAT score and fabulous work experience. Well done! Given your scores, you have a chance to be accepted at ANY school in the US, including HBS and Stanford. And I should know, I graduated from HBS! MIT will be a great program for you, but yes--because it is so focused on engineering (as is Haas) that might be a bit more challenging for you. I would consider Harvard, Kellogg, and Booth for sure. Those will be easier for you to get into.

You will also have a great shot at landing a scholarship at Ross or Tuck--we work with many Chinese people each year that have received such scholarships. I would NOT advise you though to apply to your best schools in Round 2--that doesnt make any sense. Your chances will actually be a bit better in Round 1 than in Round 2. So we suggest that you apply to some more difficult schools, AND some easier schools in Round 1. Mix it up that way, so that you benefit from the fact that Round 1 acceptances are easier.

I hope this help--let us know what more we can do!

Jon Frank
Founder,
HBS Class of 2005

-- by 会员 JonFrank (2010/8/21 22:36:08)

作者: rendezvous98 时间: 2010-9-8 02:15
Thanks for your evaluation!
Wow. It is beyond my expectation. I thought it would be difficult for me to get into HBS and MIT. So I almost quit. So according to your suggestion, I really should give it a try?

-- by 会员 JonFrank (2010/8/21 22:36:08)

作者: JonFrank 时间: 2010-9-9 07:22

Thanks for your evaluation!
Wow. It is beyond my expectation. I thought it would be difficult for me to get into HBS and MIT. So I almost quit. So according to your suggestion, I really should give it a try?

Hey there. Absolutely, you should give it a try! J Nobody has great chances at these schools—but with your scores you DO have a shot. We worked with a Chinese client last year with a 750 on her GMAT and she got into Wharton (with our help of course). It will help that your GMAT is so high, and that you are a woman. You have a chance, so absolutely you should give it a shot. If you were a man from China with a 700 on the GMAT, for example, our advice would be very different.

I hope this helps—good luck!

Jon Frank
Founder,
HBS Class of 2005

作者: rendezvous98 时间: 2010-9-27 17:49
为啥看后三行一头雾水？：）

本人背景：GMAT 760+5
国内本科GPA：3.4/40
欧洲硕士：8.5/10

工作：全球500强
工程背景，
性别：女

单纯看前三行，申请哪所恐怕都有机会；再看后面三行，一头雾水，不知道LZ适合什么学校。
看楼主说的意思，似乎接受了太多的消息，自己有些lost了，这里又有好几个高手应答，希望楼主能够思路清晰一些。
最后想说的是，不知道你未来想干什么？如果你就是想去读MBA，希望你考虑一下是否有意义。如果有什么明确的职业目标，最好明示出来，也好让楼上的高手们有的放矢。有一个事实是，去年好多高手都折戟沉沙，LZ的这些指标未必比他们好多少，有机会多问问这些人失败的经历，也许对楼主会有帮助。

综上，我觉得LZ最好再开放一些信息，否则可能所有的答复都是有意义的废话。当然，第一轮第二轮的那些意见除外。

-- by 会员 ningchunlong (2010/9/27 1:50:05)

作者: rendezvous98 时间: 2010-9-27 18:46
我觉得有啊，工作的公司，性别对申请有很大影响吧？而我的专业也许对申请mba没有多大帮助，但也是有影响，可能是负面影响。我实在不明白你说的那三行内容不能帮助别人判断的依据是什么？

LZ，你觉得那三行有内容吗？能够帮助别人判断吗？

-- by 会员 ningchunlong (2010/9/27 18:34:22)

作者: huhuorbobo 时间: 2010-9-28 00:47
Well, does it mean the difference between male and female candidate from China is that big? The male candidates are in a weak position already before they even read the applications?

And does GMAT really matter that much?

As I am a man from China with GMAT700, so what your adivce will be?

Hey there. Absolutely, you should give it a try! J Nobody has great chances at these schools—but with your scores you DO have a shot. We worked with a Chinese client last year with a750 on her GMAT and she got into Wharton (with our help of course). It will help that your GMAT is so high, and that you are a woman. You have a chance, so absolutely you should give it a shot. If you were a man from China with a 700 on the GMAT, for example, our advice would be very different.

I hope this helps—good luck!

Jon Frank
Founder,
HBS Class of 2005

-- by 会员 JonFrank (2010/9/9 7:22:21)

作者: amanda2078 时间: 2010-9-28 05:50

据我看到的一个帖子，一个在校生说挺面试官谈到，中国面试者中70%是女生......不知道是不是普遍现象。不过，我目前接触的申请人中，的确女性偏多！而且美国人近期的一个调查也显示，中国女性的确比美国女性更有进取心。

-- by 会员 ningchunlong (2010/9/28 0:54:40)

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It is because women elite are hard to get married in China...Anyone agree with that?

作者: cammela 时间: 2010-9-28 10:35

据我看到的一个帖子，一个在校生说挺面试官谈到，中国面试者中70%是女生......不知道是不是普遍现象。不过，我目前接触的申请人中，的确女性偏多！而且美国人近期的一个调查也显示，中国女性的确比美国女性更有进取心。

-- by 会员 ningchunlong (2010/9/28 0:54:40)

It is because women elite are hard to get married in China...Anyone agree with that?

-- by 会员 amanda2078 (2010/9/28 5:50:32)

[/quote]去了美国更难婚了
ning老师接触女生多是因为个人魅力问题吧

作者: Knockoff 时间: 2010-9-28 10:44
我觉得整体上女生考英文就比男生好，考试难度比较大程度上阻止了一些男性去申请，所以整体上体现出来女生申请者要比男生多。我认为这至少是一个原因吧。

问题是，既然男生少，为啥不多招点男生balance一下，受益一下男同胞，哈哈。中国男性都是diversity的牺牲品么

It will help that your GMAT is so high, and that you are a woman. You have a chance, so absolutely you should give it a shot.
If you were a man from China with a 700 on the GMAT, for example, our advice would be very different.

不知道同样是750的男生和女生，谁的机会更大？美国申请人的情形和中国申请人的情形能够无差别地进行对等推理吗？
据我看到的一个帖子，一个在校生说挺面试官谈到，中国面试者中70%是女生......不知道是不是普遍现象。不过，我目前接触的申请人中，的确女性偏多！而且美国人近期的一个调查也显示，中国女性的确比美国女性更有进取心。

-- by 会员 ningchunlong (2010/9/28 0:54:40)

作者: caopp 时间: 2010-9-28 10:48
中国男人都学理工科去了...想到转商的少之又少

作者: cammela 时间: 2010-9-28 10:57

我觉得整体上女生考英文就比男生好，考试难度比较大程度上阻止了一些男性去申请，所以整体上体现出来女生申请者要比男生多。我认为这至少是一个原因吧。

问题是，既然男生少，为啥不多招点男生balance一下，受益一下男同胞，哈哈。中国男性都是diversity的牺牲品么

-- by 会员 ningchunlong (2010/9/28 0:54:40)

-- by 会员 Knockoff (2010/9/28 10:44:33)

问题是白人男多啊，要diversity当然要招女的了
他是分male and female
american and international
不是分white men and white woman, asian men and asian women吧？

作者: Knockoff 时间: 2010-9-28 12:06
那真别说纽约投行是white male dominated，其实北美的topMBA都是white male dominated

-- by 会员 ningchunlong (2010/9/28 0:54:40)

-- by 会员 Knockoff (2010/9/28 10:44:33)

问题是白人男多啊，要diversity当然要招女的了
他是分male and female
american and international
不是分white men and white woman, asian men and asian women吧？

-- by 会员 cammela (2010/9/28 10:57:31)

作者: Knockoff 时间: 2010-9-28 12:07
我怎么觉得是在flirting。。。。sigh

卡米拉有点学我的分析风格了。你开始关注社会学了？居然从我提供的一个社会学研究成果中提炼出这些内容。大有进步

-- by 会员 ningchunlong (2010/9/28 11:55:49)

作者: cammela 时间: 2010-9-28 12:08

卡米拉有点学我的分析风格了。你开始关注社会学了？居然从我提供的一个社会学研究成果中提炼出这些内容。大有进步

-- by 会员 ningchunlong (2010/9/28 11:55:49)

一句话夸了我还自夸。。。。
ning老师v5

作者: cammela 时间: 2010-9-28 12:15

那真别说纽约投行是white male dominated，其实北美的topMBA都是white male dominated

-- by 会员 ningchunlong (2010/9/28 0:54:40)

-- by 会员 Knockoff (2010/9/28 10:44:33)

问题是白人男多啊，要diversity当然要招女的了
他是分male and female
american and international
不是分white men and white woman, asian men and asian women吧？

-- by 会员 cammela (2010/9/28 10:57:31)

-- by 会员 Knockoff (2010/9/28 12:06:37)

外企其实也是啊，white men, white women, asian men, asian women,一般高层都这么划分的
women在外企的发展中更容易出现瓶颈，特别是asian female这种情况更明显
这也可以理解为为什么那么多chinese girl要去读b school来提升自己

作者: Knockoff 时间: 2010-9-28 12:26
问题是读了排位还不是这样么，也就暂时能逃避一下，回来和MALE MBA竞争的话，ASIAN FEMALE还是处于劣势，不过对自己来说，当然是一个提升了

那真别说纽约投行是white male dominated，其实北美的topMBA都是white male dominated

-- by 会员 ningchunlong (2010/9/28 0:54:40)

-- by 会员 Knockoff (2010/9/28 10:44:33)

问题是白人男多啊，要diversity当然要招女的了
他是分male and female
american and international
不是分white men and white woman, asian men and asian women吧？

-- by 会员 cammela (2010/9/28 10:57:31)

-- by 会员 Knockoff (2010/9/28 12:06:37)

-- by 会员 cammela (2010/9/28 12:15:55)

作者: canols 时间: 2010-9-28 13:05
cam cam,你和宁老师。。。互相PMP？

作者: cammela 时间: 2010-9-28 18:45

问题是读了排位还不是这样么，也就暂时能逃避一下，回来和MALE MBA竞争的话，ASIAN FEMALE还是处于劣势，不过对自己来说，当然是一个提升了

那真别说纽约投行是white male dominated，其实北美的topMBA都是white male dominated

-- by 会员 ningchunlong (2010/9/28 0:54:40)

-- by 会员 Knockoff (2010/9/28 10:44:33)

问题是白人男多啊，要diversity当然要招女的了
他是分male and female
american and international
不是分white men and white woman, asian men and asian women吧？

-- by 会员 cammela (2010/9/28 10:57:31)

-- by 会员 Knockoff (2010/9/28 12:06:37)

-- by 会员 cammela (2010/9/28 12:15:55)

-- by 会员 Knockoff (2010/9/28 12:26:29)

从跟土鳖的asian male竞争变成和mba asian male男竞争，显然提升了啊

作者: rendezvous98 时间: 2010-10-3 01:05
没关系，这也是我感兴趣的，继续讨论啊。不过我很惊讶，居然中国申请mba的女性要比男性多，这点很想不通

这个帖子明显被和LZ问题不太相干的话题顶上天了。楼上两位，咱们歇息吧。哈哈

-- by 会员 ningchunlong (2010/9/28 19:23:11)

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