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作者: recoupsin 时间: 2010-5-15 21:11
标题: 希望与CDers一起探讨，希望能够在帮您解答的时候一同进步
大家把不会的题目发上来吧！

作者: abjure 时间: 2010-5-15 23:16
好啊！！！呵呵。我这段时间SC问题挺多的

作者: recoupsin 时间: 2010-5-16 22:31
发上来吧，我渴求啊~~~

作者: cutewen 时间: 2010-5-16 23:10
The two oil companies agreed to merge their refining and marketing operations in the Midwest and the West, forming a new company for controlling nearly fifteen percent of the nation's gasoline sales.

(A) forming a new company for controlling
(B) forming a new company that would control
(C) which would form a new company that controlled
(D) which formed a new company for controlling
(E) which formed a new company that would control

我在我帖子里也发了！！

就是这个B是对的啊说是伴随状语!但是我怎么没觉得这个是修饰前面逻辑主语的谓语动词啊！！！

作者: cutewen 时间: 2010-5-16 23:12
LZ。。我深深的感到我骚扰到你了..我不是故意的！！！

作者: recoupsin 时间: 2010-5-16 23:19
好吧，我详细说一下给你听。
1。ing做状语。
(1)在句首只做伴随动作状语，主语为主句主语，也就是说主语可以执行它的动作。
(2)在句尾也可以做伴随动作状语，主语为主句主语，也就是说主语可以执行它的动作。
但是（1）和（2）两种情况ing分词的动作和主句谓语的动做一般是同时发生的。
2.ing做伴随结果状语。只在句尾，表示前面那句话所导致的结果。不考虑逻辑主语问题。
3.一般来说现在分词前有逗号就不修饰名词了，多数情况是做状语，而没有逗号隔开并且紧跟所修饰名词的后面，或者在一些并列结构中（这个复杂点）。

作者: recoupsin 时间: 2010-5-16 23:20
我不是说骚扰的意思，关键是你自己得加强基础知识啊。我就是把书都看了几十遍。资料不再多，但是一定得读透读精。

作者: cutewen 时间: 2010-5-16 23:54
我英语基础不太好。。但是快考试了。所以在研究PREP SC的破解（因为里面有讲解》。。）

感觉自己精力很分散..

不过我还有一个问题!
现在分词的解决了。
那过去分词呢？

在句首的话我知道它也是句子主语发出的动作，不过是被动的（说的不对帮忙指正。）
就是说过去分词要得和句子的主语匹配才可以。
不过我不知道这个过去分词结构在句首做什么成分..

过去分词结构在句尾的情况有么？

（希望SC不好的同志们来看看..也许我的弱智问题能解决跟我一样的人的疑惑。。。）

作者: cutewen 时间: 2010-5-17 00:04
LZ 早点休息吧~哎。晚安喔!今天你的解答真的帮我解决了一大盲点!非常感谢你！

作者: recoupsin 时间: 2010-5-17 00:10
在句尾就是修饰就近名词的。呵呵。加油。

作者: recoupsin 时间: 2010-5-17 00:12
prep的解释不系统，还是看XDF那几本书的吧，可以先给你构建知识体系。你要是有别的题就发上来问吧，欢迎哦

作者: cutewen 时间: 2010-5-17 00:17
好..我再最后问一个弱智问题！就睡觉！
那个过去分词在句尾修饰就近名词.. 那是不是就是定语后置？
OMG..我..问的很汗颜啊...

作者: cutewen 时间: 2010-5-17 00:18
也许是看具体情况吧... 我感觉我又陷入了轮回..又在纠结它是定语还是状语..
看来我得自己多分析几个句子才能明白了！

作者: recoupsin 时间: 2010-5-17 00:43
不是定语后置。如果你可以遇到定语后置的情况你就在超高分段了。就是定语而已啦。

作者: recoupsin 时间: 2010-5-17 00:47
怎么说呢，定语就是修饰名词或名词短语的。定语的位置有前有后，但是有些就一定要放前面比如increased，有些一定要放后面。做定语的很多种，有分词短语，介词短语，物主代词，冠词等等等等。不要考虑什么后不后置的问题，极少碰到什么后置是考点的。而且我还没听说过有定语后置这个概念，只有后置定语。

作者: cutewen 时间: 2010-5-17 20:34
哈哈又是我。看到我有没有面部表情抽动了一下~~~

Sixty-five million years ago, according to some scientists, an asteroid bigger than Mount Everest slammed into North America, which, causing plant and animal extinctions, marks the end of the geologic era known as the Cretaceous Period.

(A) which, causing plant and animal extinctions, marks
(B) which caused the plant and animal extinctions marking
(C) and causing plant and animal extinctions that mark
(D) an event that caused plant and animal extinctions, and it marks
(E) an event that caused the plant and animal extinctions that mark
答案是E 我当时排除了E 是觉得 the plant and animal 这个不平行 - -
这里是the ( plant and animal ) extinctions 吗？ - -

作者: recoupsin 时间: 2010-5-18 00:16
这个不是什么平行不平行的结构。plant和animal其实是修饰extinction的，而the定冠词是把plant和animal限定了只能修饰extinction。就像the old and rich people 一样，是说又老又有钱的人，一类人。
这题还需理解的事就是是这个流星造成的灭亡还是，流星撞地球这件事照成的。如果是前者就有ing，主语就是流星。如果是后者就用同位结构（概括性同位结构，五种同位结构中的一种）来指代前面这件事情。
很显然是后者，所以答案就在d e选项中了
至于D为什么不行，是应为it的原因，it不可以指代前面的句子。

作者: lurenyizcs 时间: 2010-5-18 02:15
标题: 放在外面也没人解答，过来请教LZ~~~~~~

While the owner of a condominium apartment has free and clear title to the dwelling, owners of cooperative apartments have shares in a corporation that owns a building and leases apartments to them.
(A) While the owner of a condominium apartment has free and clear title to the dwelling,
(B) The owner of a condominium apartment has free and clear title to the dwelling, but
(C) Whereas owners of condominium apartments have free and clear title to their dwellings,
(D) An owner of a condominium apartment has free and clear title to the dwelling, whereas
(E) Condominium apartment owners have a title to their dwelling that is free and clear, while

白勇比较第七章：比较结构 27题

根据原句的合理重心和结构，排除了B,D,E.

最后我选择了A，因为我认为C中代词their和句尾的代词them违背了“一句话中，相同的代词（包括they,them,their等）必须指代相同”这一代词指代原则。

而答案却选了C，解释为：意思对比的结构，形式要对称。

我就纳闷了，难道代词指代都不是“原则性的错误”了么？？？？？？？？

作者: lurenyizcs 时间: 2010-5-18 02:17
标题: 还有这么个关于动词并列的问题~~~~~~
In contrast to large steel plants that take iron ore through all the steps needed to produce several different kinds of steel, processing steel scrap into a specialized group of products has enabled small mills to put capital into new technology and remain economically viable.
(A) processing steel scrap into a specialized group of products has enabled small mills to put capital into new technology and remain
(B) processing steel scrap into a specialized group of products has enabled small mills to put capital into new technology, remaining
(C) the processing of steel scrap into a specialized group of products has enabled small mills to put capital into new technology, remaining
(D) small mills, by processing steel scrap into a specialized group of products, have been able to put capital into new technology and remain
(E) small mills, by processing steel scrap into a specialized group of products, have been able to put capital into new technology and remained

根据比较原则，比较对象要可比，直接排除A,B,C
D和E的差别就在最后的那个动词，remain的形式
答案是D，其解释为：small mills, by processing steel scrap into a specialized group of products, have been able to put capital into new technology and (have been able to) remain 如此的一个省略，此时remain与put两个动作并列！！

而我纠结的是，以下几种省略错在哪里？？？？？
1： small mills, by processing steel scrap into a specialized group of products, have been able to put capital into new technology and （have）remained 如此的一个省略，此时remained与been able to put两个动作并列！！
2： small mills, by processing steel scrap into a specialized group of products, have been able to put capital into new technology and remain 此时remaine与 have been able to put两个动作并列！！（虽然形式和正确答案的解释是一样的，但是思考的却是根本不一样）

作者: recoupsin 时间: 2010-5-18 11:47
先说你问的第一题，对称原则里面有一个特指与泛指的区别。the+n是特指，后面的owners是泛指。这是由区别的。其实句子间的比较，第一是要求比较得恰当，也就是说逻辑上不能错。第二就是小细节的比较了，形式最好尽量一致。做主语的成分的名词有很多种，有特指和泛指之别，有具体和抽象之别，有单数和复数之别。
而文中的比较时一种普遍的情况，当然是用泛指好啦。

作者: recoupsin 时间: 2010-5-18 12:02
第二题是比较纠结。下面只是我个人理解。
从逻辑上说，remain是通过by....而得来的一种可能性，一种能力。所以应跟在have been able to 后与put 并列。
有能力和一个具体的动作并列起来不恰当。
而只有这么说才比较恰当啊，有能力去做...并且（有能力去）做。
你体会一下动词的细微差别
动词之间的关系有好多种，有伴随的，并列的，附属的等等。
而这题你可以细细体会一下remain是和have be able to在一个等级上还是和put在一个等级上。
这种原则很模糊，也就是说，当两个选项语法上没有哪个跟好的时候，就得从逻辑上下手。这也是G里面最难得一块。

作者: lurenyizcs 时间: 2010-5-18 19:40
是啊，关于这种并列时等级上的细微差别，确实很模糊~~~不容易把握

作者: fannybeibei 时间: 2010-5-18 20:26
我也来麻烦lz一下下

也是道放在外面还没搞清的问题。。。

So dogged were Frances Perkins’ investigations of the garment industry, and her lobbying for wage and hour reform was persistent, Alfred E. Smith and Franklin D. Roosevelt recruited Perkins to work within the government, rather than as a social worker.

A.and her lobbying for wage and hour reform was persistent,

B.and lobbying for wage and hour reform was persistent, so that

C.her lobbying for wage and hour reform persistent, that

D.lobbying for wage and hour reform was so persistent,

E.so persistent her lobbying for wage and hour reform, that

选E是so。。。that。。。。的缘故么
但我想问下，是不是E的前面应该加上and呢？
两个so放在一起不是sentence fragment吗？应该有and 连接才是啊
不然我会根据这个原则率先排除E的。。。

many thanks

作者: cutewen 时间: 2010-5-18 21:44
解释的很清楚啊。哎。LZ的SC炉火纯青了啊 T.T 要是能像功夫那样传授一样就好了哈哈。

作者: applejsjs 时间: 2010-5-19 08:14
麻烦楼主下~~有道题不是很明白唉
GWD1-Q2:
By merging its two publishing divisions, the company will increase their share of the country’s $21 billion book market from 6 percent to 10 percent, a market ranging from obscure textbooks to mass-market paperbacks.

A. their share of the country’s $21 billion book market from 6 percent to 10 percent, a market ranging
B. from 6 percent to 10 percent its share of the $21 billion book market in the country, which ranges
C. to 10 percent from 6 percent in their share of the $21 billion book market in the country, a market ranging
D. in its share, from 6 percent to 10 percent, of the $21 billion book market in the country, which ranges
E. to 10 percent from 6 percent its share of the country’s $21 billion book market, which ranges
这题GWD里面给的答案是B，可是新PREP里面的答案是E啊，B里面是那个which有问题，可E里面有双重所有格啊，语法笔记里面不是说双重所有格是错的嘛，如果选E是不是说明which的指代问题的优先级高于双重所有格呢
？。。。。。。纠结中~~~~

作者: recoupsin 时间: 2010-5-19 19:07
回答22楼问。
其实这题我自己也不知道确切的解答。但是只能说，在句子逻辑含义层面上E最好。其实那些语法书说的并不是万能药，也就是说不是绝对的。有好些题目都是从逻辑上入手的。
但是这题呢有个例外。可以说它不是并列结构。
因为并列结构中可以省略BE动词，但是你看，如果were带入后明显在第二个so...中主谓不一致。

作者: recoupsin 时间: 2010-5-19 19:10
而且so persistent her lobbying for wage and hour reform 其实只能是独立主格结构结构，也就是 her lobbying for wage and hour reform so persistent, 这是一种 n+adj 独立主格结构的改写而已。所以这个成分做了状语，修饰整个句子，表示某种伴随条件原因，是可以的。所以句子上没什么大问题了。
这只是我个人认为从语法上对E可能的解释，仅供参考。

作者: recoupsin 时间: 2010-5-19 19:15
还有啊，22楼的，考试的时候千万别那么分析，很浪费时间，遇到想不通的，或是没见过觉得奇怪的无从下手的，直接读一遍，找一个自己觉得顺畅的选项就选了。

作者: recoupsin 时间: 2010-5-19 19:29
答24楼问。
个人认为B是正确的，虽然E没什么错。
首先修饰语的位置，GMAT讲究自然语序，也就是说增长是从....到....，尽管E颠倒了其顺序，但是其实没有必要。比如一个句子间的动作先后顺序在句子上很多情况下他们的位子上的先后顺序也会体现其发生的先后顺序，这个原则比较没有什么语法原则，但是逻辑上舒服多了，也就是说，逻辑也是很重要的。
说说你说的which指代。B是没有问题的，非限制性定语从句可以带过介词短语指代介词短语前面的名词。而B其实是宾语后置。 its share of the $21 billion book market in the country from 6 percent to 10 percent, which ranges。而这种变化只是让修饰语和修饰对象之间位置更加恰当。
。这样是为了让from to 更接近其修饰对象increase。语序也很对。
并且E的那个不是双重所有格。双重所有格是n of n‘，而不是n of n’ n。

作者: fannybeibei 时间: 2010-5-19 19:30
其实lz说的很有道理啊，我都没想到～～
呵呵～～～谢谢lz了

作者: recoupsin 时间: 2010-5-19 20:54
不知道怎么说，我解释的很乱，不能够有效组织语言。不好意思。不过其实考G基础知识是第一步，第二步就是悟道了，所谓无招胜有招就是这样，因为考试的时候时间很多情况下不允许这样分析，大多数是一种感觉，像陈年老酒一下。

作者: aeoluseros 时间: 2010-5-20 00:28
这个答疑贴必须加精，感谢recoupsin，确实高人~~

作者: recoupsin 时间: 2010-5-20 00:32
版主过奖了，我是想多看看一些疑问，自己也可以好好想想。悟道悟道~

作者: cutewen 时间: 2010-5-20 00:38
早点睡觉啦~！安安喔。

我也觉得一记时间我就更水了... 睡觉~~~

作者: recoupsin 时间: 2010-5-20 00:39
晚安，好梦。

作者: aeoluseros 时间: 2010-5-20 00:51

麻烦楼主下~~有道题不是很明白唉
GWD1-Q2:
By merging its two publishing divisions, the company will increase their share of the country’s $21 billion book market from 6 percent to 10 percent, a market ranging from obscure textbooks to mass-market paperbacks.

A. their share of the country’s $21 billion book market from 6 percent to 10 percent, a market ranging
B. from 6 percent to 10 percent its share of the $21 billion book market in the country, which ranges
C. to 10 percent from 6 percent in their share of the $21 billion book market in the country, a market ranging
D. in its share, from 6 percent to 10 percent, of the $21 billion book market in the country, which ranges
E. to 10 percent from 6 percent its share of the country’s $21 billion book market, which ranges
这题GWD里面给的答案是B，可是新PREP里面的答案是E啊，B里面是那个which有问题，可E里面有双重所有格啊，语法笔记里面不是说双重所有格是错的嘛，如果选E是不是说明which的指代问题的优先级高于双重所有格呢
？。。。。。。纠结中~~~~

-- by 会员 applejsjs (2010/5/19 8:14:29)

recoupsin不介意一起探讨吧:-D
我也来插一脚，一起提高。
B里面which是修饰shares还是markets不清晰。
E里面把to 10 percent提前作为强调，或许这正是作者写这个句子的潜在目的(强调这个事情)，所以不能从上面找错。

作者: applejsjs 时间: 2010-5-20 08:11
哇~~谢谢LZ的分析，很强啊~~~

作者: recoupsin 时间: 2010-5-20 09:48

-- by 会员 applejsjs (2010/5/19 8:14:29)

-- by 会员 aeoluseros (2010/5/20 0:51:24)

作者: recoupsin 时间: 2010-5-20 09:55
也许是作为强调。
但是是否有强调的意思，我们不得而知。比如在选项中一个句子变成了倒装，但是语法上没问题，只是为了强调倒装部分，这不是强加强调么?我记得有两题就出现过，结果解释是变为了强调的内容，改变了句子意思，错。
还有一种就是if only 和 if 不能够替换，however much 和however不能够替换，我们知道程度修饰词是起强调作用的（only， much）。作者强调的我们不能够变为不强调，而不强调的是不是也不要强加强调呢？
而且很多情况下不是说尊重句子愿意么，如果一强调岂不是改变愿意了么？
这大概是我的愚见吧。还希望有高人来指点哦。

作者: recoupsin 时间: 2010-5-20 10:48
但是B答案读起来顺口。而且一看就懂，没有歧义啊。

作者: recoupsin 时间: 2010-5-20 12:57
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前面没有逗号的状语从句省略形式的逻辑主语为就近动词的主语，都逗号为主句主语。

关于这句实在不解，举个例子
Come along with me if (it is) possible. 如果有可能和我一起去吧.。
if (it is) possible， come along with me。
好像有没有逗号就是把句子反过来说一下，没看出什么道道。。。主语好像也很松散。。。
不解。。。
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......你得句子把我给恶心到了。我还是举别的例子吧。因为你说的句子和口语一样。那我就说点更恶心的句子吧。
u r so gorgeous that i always think about the blow job with u when masterbating. （when naked）
这里的masterbating 的主语就是I。括号里面的主语也是I。
u r so gorgeous that i always think about the blow job with u，when masterbating. （when naked）
而这里的masterbating或NAKED得主语就是U了。
但是，这些原则是我个人做题时归纳的，你做参考就好了。
本句纯属虚构，请勿模仿。

作者: recoupsin 时间: 2010-5-20 12:58
这个例子可能不恰当，但是我觉得好多人对状语从句的省略形式还是有疑问

作者: fannybeibei 时间: 2010-5-20 13:05
啊，这里也有啊。。。
其实我个人想说是主语可能也是个无关的，比如it，比如在条件状语里
不过对的，我真的对省略不清楚

作者: recoupsin 时间: 2010-5-20 13:19
wow,您还真是刨根究底啊。
不过我们先说it，it做主语是可以使代词，也可以是形式主语。不知阁下指的是哪一个呢？做代词时这种原则还是不变的，做形式主语的时候就复杂，可以说在机考遇到这种题你就直接把这个选项杀了得了，那么复杂的话是很难达到有效性的。
而如果你说after做介词那就跟不可能了，就算是的话，也会造成句子有效性和逻辑性不好，所以肯定不选他了。
不过本人才疏学浅，不是每题都可以给出确切的解答的。
还是觉得考G语法只是一种帮助，而真正的还是追求有效，简洁，逻辑合理的句子。

作者: zx1988626 时间: 2010-5-20 13:24
A do B，doing sth 这样一个结构 1）如果在逻辑意思都合理的情况下优先修饰A还是B啊
2）如果A逻辑意思合理 B不合理这个doing 能修饰A吗？考试时遇到这种情况这个句子有没有可能正确。
A of B， doing sth 呢？同样的问题
谢谢

作者: recoupsin 时间: 2010-5-20 13:37

A do B，doing sth 这样一个结构 1）如果在逻辑意思都合理的情况下优先修饰A还是B啊
2）如果A逻辑意思合理 B不合理这个doing 能修饰A吗？考试时遇到这种情况这个句子有没有可能正确。
A of B， doing sth 呢？同样的问题
谢谢

-- by 会员 zx1988626 (2010/5/20 13:24:29)

说实话，我没什么看懂你问的。
你问的第一个我可以负责的说是修饰A的，但是希望我的参考书对我说的话负责。
第二个什么逻辑意思合理不合理的我没明白。
如果是A DO B, DOING A。当然是有正确的可能了。
A OF B，doing sth真的是没有见过。
不好意思，才疏学浅我。

作者: zx1988626 时间: 2010-5-20 13:43
不好意思这个结构是我自己yy的...........我的意思是，doing 这个结构有没有就近修饰一说

作者: recoupsin 时间: 2010-5-20 13:47
有！
doing 可以做状语的，可以就近修饰一个动作。但是目前为止我只碰到过一题啦。具体回忆不起来了，一般在杂种很复杂的句子中。大可不必太纠结。一般考不到

作者: zx1988626 时间: 2010-5-20 13:51
嘿嘿谢谢谢谢啦

作者: recoupsin 时间: 2010-5-20 13:55
不客气

作者: recoupsin 时间: 2010-5-20 14:09
sorry, it should be masturbating

作者: aeoluseros 时间: 2010-5-20 17:53

也许是作为强调。
但是是否有强调的意思，我们不得而知。比如在选项中一个句子变成了倒装，但是语法上没问题，只是为了强调倒装部分，这不是强加强调么?我记得有两题就出现过，结果解释是变为了强调的内容，改变了句子意思，错。
还有一种就是if only 和 if 不能够替换，however much 和however不能够替换，我们知道程度修饰词是起强调作用的（only， much）。作者强调的我们不能够变为不强调，而不强调的是不是也不要强加强调呢？
而且很多情况下不是说尊重句子愿意么，如果一强调岂不是改变愿意了么？
这大概是我的愚见吧。还希望有高人来指点哦。

-- by 会员 recoupsin (2010/5/20 9:55:30)

umm...for prep is official, the answers are always correct.
SC里面并没有“句子原意”的说法，只有“合理句意”的说法。就如该句子，强调也是一种合理的意思。换句话说，我们并不知道写这个句子的作者想不想表达强调，或许A选项句，并不是作者想表达的意思呢？
另外，B选项里面，是该公司的所占的份额里面就已经ranging from obscure textbooks to mass-market paperbacks，还是整个国家market才是ranging from obscure textbooks to mass-market paperbacks而公司所占的份额，只是ranging其中一部分呢？ambiguous。

作者: recoupsin 时间: 2010-5-20 18:15
有理有理，但是为什么我们可以直接排除which修饰country，却会在BE徘徊呢？如果说WHICH是跳跃加原则加就近修饰原则，那么share和market先后顺序不是一样的么？
难道which不可以跳过介词短语修饰前面的名词？但是我记得很多题是可以的啊。
（另外一点强调把握的尺度的确是很难把握。）
希望您不惜赐教啊.

作者: recoupsin 时间: 2010-5-20 18:16
为什么B就会ambiguous而E不会呢？

作者: recoupsin 时间: 2010-5-20 18:17
如果E不会ambiguous那么从语法上说，两个market在BE中的成分都是一样的，同样B也不会ambiguous。

作者: applejsjs 时间: 2010-5-20 19:51
我又飘来了~~~有道比较的题目，recoupsin帮忙看下哈~~
36: GWD-29-Q24
According to recent studies comparing the nutritional value of meat from wild animals and meat from domesticated animals, wild animals have less total fat than do livestock fed on grain and more of a kind of fat they think is good for cardiac health.
A. wild animals have less total fat than do livestock fed on grain and more of a kind of fat they think is
B. wild animals have less total fat than livestock fed on grain and more of a kind of fat thought to be
C. wild animals have less total fat than that of livestock fed on grain and have more fat of a kind thought to be
D. total fat of wild animals is less than livestock fed on grain and they have more fat of a kind thought to be
E. total fat is less in wild animals than that of livestock fed on grain and more of their fat is of a kind they think is
这道题我GWD里面给的答案是C，我查了下争议很多，看了以后我还是不清楚，做题的时候觉得每个选项都有问题啊，碰到这种题到底该怎么选呢？

作者: applejsjs 时间: 2010-5-20 19:55
另外LZ和版主大大的讨论真是精彩啊！！受教了~~

作者: fannybeibei 时间: 2010-5-20 20:56

而如果你说after做介词那就跟不可能了，就算是的话，也会造成句子有效性和逻辑性不好，所以肯定不选他了。
还是觉得考G语法只是一种帮助，而真正的还是追求有效，简洁，逻辑合理的句子。

-- by 会员 recoupsin (2010/5/20 13:19:33)

回来也，刚看到，LZ末见怪呵～～资质愚钝，只好努力努力了
对，我也很同意这句话，（呵呵，这次是我自己悟到的哦～～）所以后来把after做介词那个删了。

作者: aeoluseros 时间: 2010-5-21 00:30

如果E不会ambiguous那么从语法上说，两个market在BE中的成分都是一样的，同样B也不会ambiguous。

-- by 会员 recoupsin (2010/5/20 18:17:17)

嗯，通过排除which的其他用法，我推测这个规律的存在可能性：
A of B's C, which的话，是不是只能修饰C，因为中间有B's的隔开。
而A of B in C, which的话，如果which不可能修饰C了，也就是等于A of B, which的结构，如果A和B都可以被which修饰，是否就有修饰歧义了。
但是没有其他题目了。所以既然OA如此，我就先如此记下了。

作者: recoupsin 时间: 2010-5-21 16:50
A. wild animals have less total fat than do livestock fed on grain and more of a kind of fat they think is
A的问题是，more of a kind of fat they think is 这样句子结构不清晰而且混乱，同时割裂了与前面那句的联系，并且they think 只能说是动物想这对他们心脏的健康好，逻辑不合理的。
并且，more of 是说程度上的多，修饰a kind of fat 视乎不合理。
而且我个人觉得think的用法错了，造A说，they think ...is....不觉得有问题么。

B. wild animals have less total fat than livestock fed on grain and more of a kind of fat thought to be
B的问题在于比较对象的问题，也就是说有可能是fat 和 livestock 的比较。所以最好是＋DO在livestock那，这样可以避免歧义。
但是有些句子不加DO是因为它是简单句，例如：i run faster than DICK
。这里就只能是I和dick 比了。
你体会一下就知道，比较前有两个名词的时候最好把动词或者助动词补上。
比且and 是句子和名词的并列还是and 后面省略了 wild animals have 呢？
再来说C，that 只能指代FAT了，而且C中的比较没有加do就只能是FAT和FAT的比较了，and 后面加了HAVE把两个句子练习起来，省略了主语，这样一来结构语法上没说，而来逻辑联系加强，并且清晰。
至于DE我就不说了，相信你可以举一反三。
另外一点就是，比较句中的问题你还是得拿出一些题目，自己细细体会才是。

作者: recoupsin 时间: 2010-5-21 16:52
这样啊，不胜感激

作者: applejsjs 时间: 2010-5-21 18:54
多谢LZ指点！！！！
大部分我都明白了，就是对C选项是还有一点疑问，我觉得C选项的比较还是有歧义，就是因为没有加do,感觉更像是wild animals 和that of livestock在比啊？？

作者: arsenallyr 时间: 2010-5-21 19:29
做了一道题，说是同位语后不能跟完整句子。如
i have three cars,each of them a rare find. 不能加be动词。i have three cars,each of them is a rare find 就错。
但是可以说i have three cars,each of which are rare.
请问第一种情况是什么语法，为什么同位语后不能跟完整句子。

作者: recoupsin 时间: 2010-5-21 21:47
i have three cars,each of them a rare find. 这怎么会是同位语呢？
我觉得这是N+N型的独立主格结构。
i have three cars,each of them is a rare find 就错。这个是两个句子并列没有连词当然错啦。
i have three cars,each of which are rare.这个是非限制性定语从句。
同位语是名词修饰名词，如果要跟句子的话就变成了N1, N2 加一个句子，is ..这个当然不行了。

作者: recoupsin 时间: 2010-5-21 21:50
你得找出相关的题慢慢体会体会。而且很多题的语法并不是完美的，但是至少这句话是有效，清晰，逻辑正确的。你感觉一下，抛开语法，C选项一遍读下来会有歧义么？
我可以举好多例子帮你解释它的语法也没问题，但是不举是想让你自己找题目体会，这样对你自己以后的帮助才大。

作者: arsenallyr 时间: 2010-5-22 11:58
独立主格结构（Independent Genitive）有两部分组成，前一部份是名词或者代词，后一部分是非谓语动词(不定式、动名词和分词)或形容词、副词、或介词短语。前后两部分具有逻辑主谓关系。独立主格结构在句中做状语，多用于书面语。

查了很久，没发现Noun+Noun型的独立主格结构，都是跟非谓。

作者: recoupsin 时间: 2010-5-22 16:31
...我看过这种的啊。

作者: arsenallyr 时间: 2010-5-22 21:02
从语感来说我认为是对的，但是不知道是什么语法形式呢？？

作者: arsenallyr 时间: 2010-5-22 21:04
独立主格我真找不到noun+noun例子

作者: recoupsin 时间: 2010-5-22 21:07
BY里有

作者: 洛洛洛洛 时间: 2010-5-22 21:15
大赞楼主的头像一记！哈～

作者: recoupsin 时间: 2010-5-22 21:28
...我说这是我你信不？

作者: recoupsin 时间: 2010-5-22 21:31
对了，关于BY和LZM的你最好还是看一看，虽然说都不是很全面，难度也偏小，有些解释还比较牵强，但是，单从语法角度说作为SC的启蒙教材还是比较可靠的，也不是像看OG解释那样一开始会比较迷茫。但是很多东西不可以全信，毕竟很多原则是相对的，不是绝对的。也就是说SC其实包含的不止是语法，还是一种语言的水平，是逻辑和语法的结合。

作者: 洛洛洛洛 时间: 2010-5-22 21:38

...我说这是我你信不？

-- by 会员 recoupsin (2010/5/22 21:28:17)

......王力宏也要考GMAT啊....

作者: recoupsin 时间: 2010-5-23 16:58
...看来你不信，但是你得判断是正确的。呜呜~

作者: cutewen 时间: 2010-5-23 22:12
12. GWD17-Q12:
Mauritius was a British colony for almost 200 years, excepting for the domains of administration and teaching, the English language was never really spoken on the island.

A.   excepting for
B.   except in
C.   but except in
D.   but excepting for
E.   with the exception of

C 当时我做的时候就觉得在C和D里选可是完全没把握。。。

17. GWD17-Q17:
Because fish look through water, their eyes are very different from a mammal.
A.   from a mammal
B.   from a mammal’s
C.   from that of a mammal
D.   than that of a mammal
E.   than is a mammal’s

B 当时也是在B C里纠结.. 然后选了C 就错了...

作者: jtrchina 时间: 2010-5-24 10:56

...我说这是我你信不？

-- by 会员 recoupsin (2010/5/22 21:28:17)

好贴捧场~

不信
因为觉得你比他帅

作者: chloewoo 时间: 2010-5-24 13:12
136. As researchers continue to probe the highly expressive vocal and postural language of wolves, their close resemblance to dogs has become ever more striking.
(A) their close resemblance to dogs has become
(B) the closeness of their resemblance to dogs has become
(C) the close resemblance between them and dogs has become
(D) the close resemblance between wolves and dogs becomes
(E) the close resemblance of wolves with dogs becomes
上面这题答案为什么不用has
Although it was expected that workers under forty would show hostility to the plan, the research report indicates that both younger and the older people approve of governmental appropriations for Social Security.
(A) younger and the older people
(B) younger people and the older
(C) the younger and the older people
(D) younger and older people
(E) people who are younger and those who are older

非常感谢啊！

作者: chloewoo 时间: 2010-5-24 13:19
In the most common procedure for harvesting forage crops such as alfalfa, as much as 20 percent of the leaf and small-stem material, which is the most nutritious of all the parts of the plant, shattered and fell to the ground.
(A) which is the most nutritious of all the parts of the plant, shattered and fell
(B) the most nutritious of all parts of the plant, shatter and fall
(C) the parts of the plant which were most nutritious, will shatter and fall
(D) the most nutritious parts of the plant, shatters and falls
(E) parts of the plant which are the most nutritious, have shattered and fallen
还有这个为什么选d?

作者: leosnoon 时间: 2010-5-24 17:21

In the most common procedure for harvesting forage crops such as alfalfa, as much as 20 percent of the leaf and small-stem material, which is the most nutritious of all the parts of the plant, shattered and fell to the ground.
(A) which is the most nutritious of all the parts of the plant, shattered and fell
(B) the most nutritious of all parts of the plant, shatter and fall
(C) the parts of the plant which were most nutritious, will shatter and fall
(D) the most nutritious parts of the plant, shatters and falls
(E) parts of the plant which are the most nutritious, have shattered and fallen
还有这个为什么选d?

-- by 会员 chloewoo (2010/5/24 13:19:17)

楼主不在啊，不知道这是不是墙饭碗...嘻嘻，在大明星地盘上发表下意见，一会儿看到不要拍我就是：
In the...状语不管他, as much as 20 percent（注意这里的主语式20% A of B结构）of the leaf and small stem material, which is （这里的Which指代模糊，可能是material,所以还不如去掉作为插入语） the most nutritious of all the parts of the plant, （去掉which 后主语没变，任然是‘20%’ 单数）shatters and falls...

作者: recoupsin 时间: 2010-5-24 19:08
except我记得有两种用法，一个是排除并列类的，一个是排除包含类的。这个很不好意思，我自己具体也记不清了，不过C选项读起来顺口，也没有歧义，并且except in 记一下就好了。
至于第二题，that不能指代eyes所以，有that当然排除啦，并且，different from 是固定搭配，这样不就只有B了，A的比较时不对称的。另外，这种N'S N is different from N2‘s 是可以的，也就是说省略了eyes，还是背下来吧这题。

作者: recoupsin 时间: 2010-5-24 19:10

...我说这是我你信不？

-- by 会员 recoupsin (2010/5/22 21:28:17)

好贴捧场~

不信
因为觉得你比他帅

-- by 会员 jtrchina (2010/5/24 10:56:26)

你居然侮辱我的偶像

作者: recoupsin 时间: 2010-5-24 19:13

136. As researchers continue to probe the highly expressive vocal and postural language of wolves, their close resemblance to dogs has become ever more striking.
(A) their close resemblance to dogs has become
(B) the closeness of their resemblance to dogs has become
(C) the close resemblance between them and dogs has become
(D) the close resemblance between wolves and dogs becomes
(E) the close resemblance of wolves with dogs becomes
上面这题答案为什么不用has
Although it was expected that workers under forty would show hostility to the plan, the research report indicates that both younger and the older people approve of governmental appropriations for Social Security.
(A) younger and the older people
(B) younger people and the older
(C) the younger and the older people
(D) younger and older people
(E) people who are younger and those who are older

非常感谢啊！

-- by 会员 chloewoo (2010/5/24 13:12:40)

has的那个选项them指代不明，并且，一般现在时表示一种普遍性，和has就表示到现在说话位置就完了。不适合这种表示普遍性一般性的句子

作者: recoupsin 时间: 2010-5-24 19:19

-- by 会员 chloewoo (2010/5/24 13:12:40)

这个第二题是省略加对称原则的。我觉得选C好。the younger and rich people，是表示一类人，而the younger and the rich people 表示的是两类人，只不过省略了people。 AB选项不对称，d选项可以使younger和older共同修饰一类people因为没有限定词the在形容词前面，而E第一个是罗说第二个those这么用会有歧义，逻辑不通。

作者: recoupsin 时间: 2010-5-24 19:23

-- by 会员 chloewoo (2010/5/24 13:19:17)

这句话你注意到那个common了么，表示一种普遍的事实，所以最好用一般现在时。
as much as 20 percent of the leaf and small-stem material这里的material才是主语，其他的是修饰它的，而主语是单数后面就当然用VS了.这就是考试的思路，至于同位语的修饰问题，就不多说了。

作者: recoupsin 时间: 2010-5-24 19:25

-- by 会员 chloewoo (2010/5/24 13:19:17)

-- by 会员 leosnoon (2010/5/24 17:21:22)

这是分享，不是抢饭碗，谢谢啦

作者: chloewoo 时间: 2010-5-24 21:16
太感谢大大们了！很好很强大啊！

作者: cutewen 时间: 2010-5-24 21:32
恩呢~~谢谢咯~！~~~

作者: recoupsin 时间: 2010-5-24 22:27
但是的但是，还是希望大家可以发题的时候发个题号，拜托啦。

作者: 葛佳 时间: 2010-5-26 19:59
语法题求助

2. Caribou are animals with excelltnt hearing, so stalking them over the treeless landscape . getting close enough to kill it with nothing but a handhekd lance, as Dorset people did, required exceptional hunting skill.
A.so stalking them over the treeless landscape . getting close enough to kill it
B.so to stalk them over the treeless landscape and get close enough to kill one
C.and so stalking them over the treeless landscape and getting close enough in order to kill it

KEY b
a 错在哪里啊？
问下one 和 it的用法区别是什么?

作者: 葛佳 时间: 2010-5-26 20:00
10. Most of the purprted hesalth benedist of rea comes from antioxidants----compunds also found in beta carotene, vitamin E, and C that inhibit the formation of plaque along the body's bleed vessels.
A. comes from antioxidants----compunds also found in beta carotene, vitamin E, and C that
B. comes from antioxidants----compunds that are also found in beta carotene, vitamin E, and C, and they
C.come from antioxidants----compunds also found in beta carotene, vitamin E, and C, and
D.come from antioxidants----compunds that are also found in beta carotene, vitamin E, and C, and that
E. come from antioxidants----compunds also found in beta carotene, vitamin E, and C, and they

答案是 D

c中破折号后的compounds 前面的同位语，compunds also found in 这个是错的么？应该接N

请NN指教

作者: 葛佳 时间: 2010-5-26 20:00
求助大全语法一题

11. Researchers agreed that the study of now treatments for heart attach patients was extremly impotant but more research was needed to determine that balloon angiopasty preceded with ultrasound was or was not any better for heart atteck patients than the balloon procedure by itself.
A.more research was needed to determine that balloon angiopasty preceded with ultrasound was or was not any better for heart atteck patients than
B.more research was needed for determining whether or not balloon angiopasty preceded by ultrasound is any better for heart atteck patients than is
C.that more research was needed to determine whether balloon angiopasty preceded by ultrasound is any better for heart atteck patients than
D.that more research was needed to determine that balloon angiopasty preceded with ultrasound was any better for heart atteck patients than
E.that more research was needed for determining that balloon angiopasty preceded by ultrasound is or is not any better for heart atteck patients than is

key B

B中不是有 whether or not这个是重复吗？必错啊？有问题？

than 后面要接 is 只有B和E
E比b更累赘么？
还是有其他错误？

作者: 葛佳 时间: 2010-5-26 20:02
求助大全语法一题

14. Books in European libearies last longer than books in libraties in the United States because, although the climate in Europe is fairly humid, libraries there are not subjedted to the exremes of temperature and humidity that damage collections in the United States.
A.because, although the climate in Europe is fairly humid, libraries there are not subjedted to the exremes of temperature and humidity that
B.because, although the climate in Europe is fairly humid, libraries there are not subjedted of the exremes of temperature and humidity as those that
C.because, although the climate in Europe is fairly humid, libraries there are not subjedted to the exremities of temperature and humidity as
D.because the climate in Europe is fairly humid, but libraries there are not subjedted to the exremes of temperature and humidity as

答案选A 我选的是C
我用排除法be subject to 用的是although the climate...就只剩下A和C
为什么不用as？as不是也有连词的作用么？

作者: recoupsin 时间: 2010-5-26 21:45
先给这位同学几个感叹号!哈哈~

作者: recoupsin 时间: 2010-5-26 21:50

语法题求助

2. Caribou are animals with excelltnt hearing, so stalking them over the treeless landscape . getting close enough to kill it with nothing but a handhekd lance, as Dorset people did, required exceptional hunting skill.
A.so stalking them over the treeless landscape . getting close enough to kill it
B.so to stalk them over the treeless landscape and get close enough to kill one
C.and so stalking them over the treeless landscape and getting close enough in order to kill it

KEY b
a 错在哪里啊？
问下one 和 it的用法区别是什么?

-- by 会员葛佳 (2010/5/26 19:59:57)

A主要的错是两个并列的分词间没有连词，并且them和it本来都是指代驯鹿的，但是不一致。
C也是them和it的指代问题。并且and so这么一用变成了一个单句和结果从句并列了。并且in order多余。
one和it是有区别的。第一it可以指代不可数名词而one不可以。第二，it指代整个名词短语，而one是指代短语的中核心词。第三，也是最复杂的，it的指代是绝对替换而one不是。（第三点LZM的书说的清楚）建议可以去看看，属于基础知识。

作者: cutewen 时间: 2010-5-26 22:51
Bluegrass musician Bill Monroe, whose repertory, views on musical collaboration, and vocal style （A）were influential on generations of bluegrass artists, was also an inspiration to many musicians, that included Elvis Presley and Jerry Garcia, whose music differed significantly from his own.

(B) influenced generations of bluegrass artists, also inspired many musicians, including Elvis Presley and Jerry Garcia, whose music differed significantly from

我直接把正确答案贴上来了.. 当时排除B 是想着 also 是副词.. 感觉influenced 和inspired应该用and连接的...
（有点表达不清..）
我觉得我又出现语法知识的盲点了..请扫盲!

LZ好忙..

作者: cutewen 时间: 2010-5-26 23:02
The investigations of many psychologists and anthropologists support the generalization of there being little that is a significant difference in the underlying mental processes manifested by people from different cultures.

(A) of there being little that is a significant difference
(B) of there being little that is significantly different
(C) of little that is significantly different
(D) that there is little that is significantly different
(E) that there is little of significant differences

答案是D 我选的E
之前记得有老师说过要尽量不改变原句的含义和修饰关系。还特别说了significant和significantly最好是原文是啥答案就是啥...

今天提了两个问题! 希望LZ有时间解答一下喔。辛苦了!

作者: recoupsin 时间: 2010-5-27 00:31
对不起，今天喝多了，明天解答。见谅~

作者: jtrchina 时间: 2010-5-27 07:39

对不起，今天喝多了，明天解答。见谅~

-- by 会员 recoupsin (2010/5/27 0:31:10)

保重身体
作为战友替你接一会儿班
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作者: jtrchina 时间: 2010-5-27 07:53

10. Most of the purprted hesalth benedist of rea comes from antioxidants----compunds also found in beta carotene, vitamin E, and C that inhibit the formation of plaque along the body's bleed vessels.
A. comes from antioxidants----compunds also found in beta carotene, vitamin E, and C that
B. comes from antioxidants----compunds that are also found in beta carotene, vitamin E, and C, and they
C.come from antioxidants----compunds also found in beta carotene, vitamin E, and C, and
D.come from antioxidants----compunds that are also found in beta carotene, vitamin E, and C, and that
E. come from antioxidants----compunds also found in beta carotene, vitamin E, and C, and they

答案是 D

c中破折号后的compounds 前面的同位语，compunds also found in 这个是错的么？应该接N

请NN指教

-- by 会员葛佳 (2010/5/26 20:00:30)

C原意表达compounds执行了两个动作
1.被发现(found in)
2.抑制疾病(inhibit)
通过并列共同修饰compounds
则：
C：
compounds also found in beta carotene, vitamin E, and C, and inhibit中，found定语修饰compounds，是that are found的缩写形式，还原后：
compounds that are also found in beta carotene, vitamin E, and C, and inhibit
不平行，此时若改为inhibiting则可看做(that are)inhibiting的缩写，与前(that are)found完美平行
且：
如Ｃ表述and inhibit 有修饰主语benefits的嫌疑：
Most of the purported health benefits come form……and inhibit
并列产生歧义

反观D:
compunds that are also found in beta carotene, vitamin E, and C, and that
完美平行，修饰明确且唯一

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