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标题: USNews 和 Business Week的ranking 哪个更加权威？ [打印本页]

作者: happyjd 时间: 2010-2-10 09:03
标题: USNews 和 Business Week的ranking 哪个更加权威？
USNews 和 Business Week的ranking 哪个更加权威？
有些学校的排名差很远啊...

作者: 鸳鸳相抱 时间: 2010-2-10 09:11
好像usnews是每年排一次，问了好多中国人，都说这个最好。
但问了几个美国人，他们都说bw排名好。

不过，反正因为排名指标、权重不一样才导致差得很远的。你可以看排名的同时，看看他们排名的依据。然后结合自己的价值观来看待排名。

排名低的，不一定不好。排名高的，一定有牛逼的地方。

作者: jeffmou 时间: 2010-2-10 09:49
绝对是usnews好
bw某些排的让人大跌眼镜。
chicago第一？
ross第五？
cornell第12？
kelley第15？
yale第24？

这些都是很好笑的。

作者: pursueMBA2010 时间: 2010-2-10 09:52
cornell 12和yale 24都不值得惊奇啊
ls觉得太低或太高？

作者: jeffmou 时间: 2010-2-10 09:54
cornell太高，yale太低
个人看法。大家各抒己见。虽说yale的program一般，但是给24,确实好笑了点。

作者: pursueMBA2010 时间: 2010-2-10 09:59
我记得几年前yale就是20左右啊
所以偶尔出来个24也可以接受
Cornell.....15左右晃，也许今年某个不知名指标爆发导致上去一点点，合理范畴啊
这两个比前面提的那几个排名合理多了

作者: jeffmou 时间: 2010-2-10 10:00
cornell勉强接受~~yale放24绝对不合理啊。。yale在US news上是第10啊。。

作者: Seraph1980 时间: 2010-2-10 10:01
还是觉得USNews更像那么回事儿。

作者: pursueMBA2010 时间: 2010-2-10 10:10
个人觉得只比商学院，yale的还未必强于Cornell，历史短，很多东西不是一下能追上的
cornell如果是15，那yale低点20(排个18，19估计就顺眼了吧)，今年因为某些不可抗力元素导致再跌几位。。。。。。

作者: jeffmou 时间: 2010-2-10 10:13
只比商学院的话，cornell也没有什么优势，大多人还是冲着ivy league去的
呵呵，我们还是说回主题吧。

作者: withmoon 时间: 2010-2-10 10:16
排名真的没啥用，employer那里的reputation最重要。

作者: georgelhb 时间: 2010-2-10 10:18
us news更靠谱些，符合common sense

作者: steven_shen 时间: 2010-2-10 16:03
问过街上的人，他们说MBA还是看BW.

BW上只是针对MBA, US News是对Business School, apparantly, MBA just a program of business school

作者: jeffmou 时间: 2010-2-10 16:05
街上的人怎么不看wsj?

作者: 怪叔叔 时间: 2010-2-10 16:14
感觉US NEWS商学院排名的确更为academic风格一些，强调录取率，平均分之类的，类似于那种工学院排名那种而没有完全考虑到MBA的特殊性。以这种方式排名的话，小program占一定优势（录取率低，平均分高）。

如果想在US NEWS上排名高，一个方法就是缩小program规模，这样录取率就会降低，平均分就可以提高。Duke在2004年前的十年间，基本年年都是BW USNEWS双Top10，但是在04年左右开始扩大了招生规模，所以导致在05年之后的US NEWS排名跌出前10。在program扩张期的几年内，USNEWS排名是很难保住原来位置的。

从各自评价的准则来说，两者都各有各的道理，综合着看吧。

作者: felix_zheng 时间: 2010-2-10 16:21
觉得有些朋友对学校映像挺stereotyped & generalized。

ANYWAY, 谁被录取的学校在某种排名高，谁就会赞同那种排名：-）

自己好，才是真的好！

作者: 怪叔叔 时间: 2010-2-10 16:25
Haas(USN #7 BW#12), Yale SOM(USN #10 BW#24)，如果按照USNEWS的排名方式，的确很占优势。

作者: wordance 时间: 2010-2-10 16:29
ranking criteria:

http://tranquilstorm.wordpress.com/2007/08/31/too-many-mba-ranking-which-one-to-choose/

U.S. News & World Report bases its MBA rankings:
25% on ratings by business school deans and MBA program directors
15% on ratings by recruiters of the schools at which they recruit
35% on placement statistics provided by each school
25% on school-reported "selectivity", the percentage of applicants the school accepts for admission

BusinessWeek bases its MBA rankings on:
45% on student satisfaction surveys of recent MBA Program graduates
45% on surveys of corporate recruiters based on their experiences with a school’s graduates
10% on "intellectual capital" calculated by BusinessWeek, which tallies points for appearance of the faculty’s research in 18 specific publications

作者: narcisuss 时间: 2010-2-10 18:05
照LS的来，我觉得还是BW靠谱……

作者: kikiff8 时间: 2010-2-10 19:47
bw里面跟工资跟雇主评价更有关，还是这个有参考性

作者: kikiff8 时间: 2010-2-10 19:47
话说回来，其实你们觉得那个权威没什么用处，关键是雇主对什么RANK更看重才重要

作者: lhn8848 时间: 2010-2-11 00:59
我也有个相关的问题：
USNews里面的Best Business School比BW里面的Full Time的学校多很多，大概要多200来所，是不是可以认为BW里面出现的Full Time学校会比 “在USNews里面有，但是没在BW Full-Time里面"的学校好点呢？望了解的TX可以指教下~

作者: taktha 时间: 2010-2-11 03:28
你所在的那个学校排名在哪个排行榜上高，哪个排行榜就最权威。
学校不是都这么样的？再滥的学校也可以说自己在某某排行榜某个专业排到前10名了。

作者: wordance 时间: 2010-2-11 09:51

照LS的来，我觉得还是BW靠谱……

-- by 会员 narcisuss (2010/2/10 18:05:46)

not necessarily.
On the BW ranking,
Student satisfaction is too subjective. Degree of satisfaction depends largely on initial expectation. To use an extreme example, if a no-name school admit a bunch of Walmart cashiers who would graduate to become a cashier manager, making $50k usd a year, these people I imagine would be very satisfied. But that doesn't put their school above Harvard, where students might be more picky and demanding and therefore possibly less satisfied.
The problem with employer survey is that we don't know what the weightage of employers from different industries are. If the composition is tilted heavily towards finance, then consulting powerhouses like kellogg and MIT would be affected. If the composition is mainly industry companies then finance schools like chicago and columbia would be affected.
These are just random examples I throw out to cast reasonable doubt over rankings in general.

作者: dennisz 时间: 2010-2-11 10:29
记得CD上有个排名把USNews, BW, WSJ, Forbes 进行的加权
USNews占55%, BW 20%....
感觉这个更靠谱一点。
top 20:
排名   学校   加权积分   US NEWS09   BW 09   FT09   Forbes09
1   Harvard   1.55   1   2   2   3
2   Stanford   3   2   6   4   1
3

ennsylvania (Wharton)   3.1   3   4   1   5
4   Chicago (Booth)   4.4   5   1   7   4
5   Northwestern (Kellogg)   4.55   3   3   10   8
6   MIT (Sloan)   6.7   5   9   5   14
7   Columbia   7.4   9   7   3   6
8   Dartmouth (Tuck)   8.2   8   12   8   2
9   UC Berkeley (Haas)   9.45   7   10   16   12
10   Duke (Fuqua)   11.15   12   8   11   13
11   NYU (Stern)   11.25   11   13   6   17
12   Michigan (Ross)   11.75   13   5   12   18
13   Yale   12.65   10   24   9   10
14   Virginia (Darden)   14.45   15   16   14   9
15   UCLA (Anderson)   14.65   14   14   15   19
16   Cornell (Johnson)   14.8   17   11   17   7
17   Carnegie Mellon (Tepper)   17.95   15   19   24   23
18   Texas-Austin (McCombs)   18.65   18   21   23   11
19   UNC (Kenan-Flagler)   19.05   20   17   21   15
20   Emory (Goizueta)   20.85   22   23   13   22

作者: cannedpineapple 时间: 2010-2-12 02:16

照LS的来，我觉得还是BW靠谱……

-- by 会员 narcisuss (2010/2/10 18:05:46)

-- by 会员 wordance (2010/2/11 9:51:28)

I don't know about you, but I rather go to a place and hang out with students who are satisifed. Sure, it may have to do with expectation, but I prefer self-secure, happy classmates; to demanding and picky ones who are never happy.

And so in my opinion it's perfectly fine to use these rankings. After all, I'm paying so much to come here. I don't want two years of misery, and to be an alumnus of a miserable school that I was unhappy at.

BTW, this tends to lead to a virtuous cycle. Happy students become happy alumni, who are in turn happy to help the next batch of students. I speak only from my own experience here, but I've found that my UChicago alumni have been the most helpful bunch of students for me. In contrast, when you are unhappy, you tend to not be so keen to help out the next batch. So maybe Booth students go there expecting alumni to help them, and it happens, so they are happy. They then become helpful alumni themselves. Maybe students at some other schools are less happy, because they expect alumni to help them, but guess what, the alumni aren't so helpful because they weren't that happy when they were students either. They then in turn become unhelpful alumni. The cycle goes on.

Apart from the 'happiness' of the culture itself, another simple reason why students might be happy at a school is that some schools may be better at others at finding students who 'fit' the culture. This has nothing to do with expectations.

Just because something is 'subjective' (and yes, happiness is absolutely subjective) doesn't make it an unimportant measure to consider. Be wary of falling into the trap of objectivity = right, and subjectivity = wrong. Besides, businessweek editors are editors of a business magazine that has been in publication for many years and has an important reputation to uphold. Do you think they would continue keeping this measure as their biggest criteria if it was that pointless? Personally, I prefer to think that these experienced editors know what they're doing, and then try to understand why.

作者: taktha 时间: 2010-2-12 03:56
Maybe it's perfect to use happiness to rate a B-School. But I think 'Happiness' is quite judgemental. So I would say 'fit' is much better criteria. My 2 cents.

作者: taktha 时间: 2010-2-12 13:41
Besides, businessweek editors are editors of a business magazine that has been in publication for many years and has an important reputation to uphold. Do you think they would continue keeping this measure as their biggest criteria if it was that pointless? Personally, I prefer to think that these experienced editors know what they're doing, and then try to understand why.

That's interesting. It's the part I do wantto mention in my previous post. But after second thought, Lehman got talentedpeople, and talents doesn’t work all the time.

I want to dig out why BW editors put such hugeweight on students’ satisfaction surveys as well. As you know, employee selfperformance review would NEVER, EVER be a big concern in your promotion, annualbonus if you work in a company. I totally agree BW editors are smarter than me.They must have some good reasons to do so because lots of MBA schools follow BW ranking system. I would also appreciate if BWcan give some rationale behind it.

I agree with you, everything must have a reason no matter it's a good one or a bad one. I'm trying my best to think out of the box.
For example:
Maybe UK
students always give positivefeedback. That’s why UK MBA can be ranked higher.Maybe Harvard always eliminates bottom students andthese students gave bad comment. So Harvard isn’t as good as Ohio IndustryUniversity MBA.

作者: djcong 时间: 2010-2-12 22:03

Besides, businessweek editors are editors of a business magazine that has been in publication for many years and has an important reputation to uphold. Do you think they would continue keeping this measure as their biggest criteria if it was that pointless? Personally, I prefer to think that these experienced editors know what they're doing, and then try to understand why.

That's interesting. It's the part I do wantto mention in my previous post. But after second thought, Lehman got talentedpeople, and talents doesn’t work all the time.

I want to dig out why BW editors put such hugeweight on students’ satisfaction surveys as well. As you know, employee selfperformance review would NEVER, EVER be a big concern in your promotion, annualbonus if you work in a company. I totally agree BW editors are smarter than me.They must have some good reasons to do so because lots of MBA schools follow BW ranking system. I would also appreciate if BWcan give some rationale behind it.

I agree with you, everything must have a reason no matter it's a good one or a bad one. I'm trying my best to think out of the box.
For example:
Maybe UK
students always give positivefeedback. That’s why UK MBA can be ranked higher.Maybe Harvard always eliminates bottom students andthese students gave bad comment. So Harvard isn’t as good as Ohio IndustryUniversity MBA.

-- by 会员 taktha (2010/2/12 13:41:17)

好像有一年wharton and hbs说不再支持bw的排名survey,

作者: cannedpineapple 时间: 2010-2-13 00:06

That's interesting. It's the part I do want to mention in my previous post. But after second thought, Lehman got talented people, and talents doesn’t work all the time.

-- by 会员 taktha (2010/2/12 13:41:17)

Good point. But most of the time talent does work, no?

As for schools supporting rankings.. There's a reason for everything too. I recall this conversation.. We may have stopped providing data for these rankings because we want to send a strong signal that rankings are simplistic and derivative. We don't want people thinking 'Wharton is number 1, so that must be the best place to go. Why would I go to xyz non-Wharton school if I get into Wharton?' This seems to be very much the case particularly for foreign students, who may have less information about American schools.

Instead we'd rather focus our energies on getting students that are a good 'fit'. Unfortunately rankings provide only one measure of 'fit'- '#1 vs #2 vs #3 vs #4' etc- "If you're a #1 student, you go to #1 school!' It's not something healthy, and so we don't want to encourage this. Instead hence we have activities like S2S, VAC, and that's why I come here to post so much. I do so to slowly try and change the idea that 'it's obvious which school we'll go into. No question about it. #1, we go here... #2, we go here... etc'

作者: NeilJ 时间: 2010-2-13 00:22
Cornell排名12很正常没什么跌眼镜的

绝对是usnews好
bw某些排的让人大跌眼镜。
chicago第一？
ross第五？
cornell第12？
kelley第15？
yale第24？

这些都是很好笑的。

-- by 会员 jeffmou (2010/2/10 9:49:11)

作者: james0831 时间: 2010-4-2 16:43
你整天在这里叫啥拿了个darden offer到处叫嚣乎东西

给你DARDEN排#1 好么？

cornell太高，yale太低
个人看法。大家各抒己见。虽说yale的program一般，但是给24,确实好笑了点。

-- by 会员 jeffmou (2010/2/10 9:54:30)

作者: jeffmou 时间: 2010-4-2 21:59

你整天在这里叫啥拿了个darden offer到处叫嚣乎东西

给你DARDEN排#1 好么？

cornell太高，yale太低
个人看法。大家各抒己见。虽说yale的program一般，但是给24,确实好笑了点。

-- by 会员 jeffmou (2010/2/10 9:54:30)

-- by 会员 james0831 (2010/4/2 16:43:27)

You can disagree with what I say, but don't judge whether I should say or shouldn't.
Otherwise, SHUT UP!
Think before you talk, and remember to think with your brain if you have one.

作者: james0831 时间: 2010-4-2 22:34
Darden怎么招你这种XX进学校真是有的人给学校争光有的给学校抹黑上蹿下跳的小丑

Darden学生都像下面这么说话啊就这素质！看看这就是darden学生站内发信骂人的水平
----
jeffmou:

你什么东西啊！！ 2010-04-02 21:52:24
我说话管你屁事！！！ 2010-04-02 21:52:34

你整天在这里叫啥拿了个darden offer到处叫嚣乎东西

给你DARDEN排#1 好么？

cornell太高，yale太低
个人看法。大家各抒己见。虽说yale的program一般，但是给24,确实好笑了点。

-- by 会员 jeffmou (2010/2/10 9:54:30)

-- by 会员 james0831 (2010/4/2 16:43:27)

You can disagree with what I say, but don't judge whether I should say or shouldn't.
Otherwise, SHUT UP!
Think before you talk, and remember to think with your brain if you have one.

-- by 会员 jeffmou (2010/4/2 21:59:47)

作者: jeffmou 时间: 2010-4-2 23:43
我就骂你了,怎样!瘪三!

作者: jeffmou 时间: 2010-4-2 23:49
请把不要把darden扯进来!冲我来!你这种瘪三怎么不把自己整进m7?学校真不长眼,为了diversity也该招条你这种垃圾货色!

作者: james0831 时间: 2010-4-3 00:09
你这种都进了今年垃圾的diversity满了

请把不要把darden扯进来!冲我来!你这种瘪三怎么不把自己整进m7?学校真不长眼,为了diversity也该招条你这种垃圾货色!

-- by 会员 jeffmou (2010/4/2 23:49:22)

作者: james0831 时间: 2010-4-3 00:10
呵呵没啥我也问候你还带上你全家

我就骂你了,怎样!瘪三!

-- by 会员 jeffmou (2010/4/2 23:43:50)

作者: ziye210 时间: 2010-4-3 00:15
两位别吵了，谢谢。不然我只能封帖了。

作者: Gmatcrack 时间: 2010-4-3 00:16
息息怒气啊，兄弟们，前世又没有仇。另外大家都针对学校讨论好了，别人生攻击啊！

作者: james0831 时间: 2010-4-3 00:20
没想吵只是有些人素质太差上来就骂人拿了个p offer 人话都不会说了

作者: ziye210 时间: 2010-4-3 00:21
大家转移话题吧，不然到别的帖子里面讨论讨论有意义的话题？

作者: Gmatcrack 时间: 2010-4-3 00:22
支持斑竹！

作者: james0831 时间: 2010-4-3 00:24
ok. 不好意思我打住

大家转移话题吧，不然到别的帖子里面讨论讨论有意义的话题？

-- by 会员 ziye210 (2010/4/3 0:21:42)

作者: ziye210 时间: 2010-4-3 00:27

ok. 不好意思我打住

大家转移话题吧，不然到别的帖子里面讨论讨论有意义的话题？

-- by 会员 ziye210 (2010/4/3 0:21:42)

-- by 会员 james0831 (2010/4/3 0:24:23)

非常感谢！愿意的话，开个帖子讲讲自己的申请心得与我们分享吧。我一定去捧场。

作者: Gmatcrack 时间: 2010-4-3 00:28
支持斑竹！支持和谐CD

作者: StuntGp 时间: 2010-4-3 10:03
和谐的帖子看着不好玩

作者: Paris2009 时间: 2010-4-3 10:07

和谐的帖子看着不好玩

-- by 会员 StuntGp (2010/4/3 10:03:32)

互相谩骂确实没有必要，不过有些针锋相对的争论却能擦出智慧的火花。

作者: mopton 时间: 2010-4-3 10:08
我也很受不了站内信骂人的人。

作者: jeffmou 时间: 2010-4-3 10:26
最后一次在这个帖子发帖，我只想present facts, 各位自己评论。
首先，在这个帖子里，我一直本着很认真的态度发表“自己”的意见。涉及到某些学校，可能触动James0831的神经了。。
但是我从没有攻击过别人的观点。。大家各抒己见，这本就是cd所倡导的。

而James0831上来说的第一句话就是带有人身攻击意味的。。至于我后来激动地回复了几句。。措辞是很粗糙，就此，我对版主表示抱歉。版主可以封我，或者删我ID, 我没有任何意见。

James0831第一次挑衅:
你整天在这里叫啥拿了个darden offer到处叫嚣乎东西
给你DARDEN排#1 好么？

James0831发给我的站内信
狗B 我操你全家 2010-04-03 00:12:23

如果说,我说的话算骂人的话。。。James0831的话应该算喷粪了吧。

我就此打住了。。多说无益。。

作者: james0831 时间: 2010-4-3 10:53
你这个傻B 脑子真是被驴踢了

说你darden排第一是挑衅你啊听着不顺心就是挑衅你啊你以为自己是魏忠贤公公啊

骂你活该你自己拿嘴巴当屁股站内先骂我我还想抽你呢

最后一次在这个帖子发帖，我只想present facts, 各位自己评论。
首先，在这个帖子里，我一直本着很认真的态度发表“自己”的意见。涉及到某些学校，可能触动James0831的神经了。。
但是我从没有攻击过别人的观点。。大家各抒己见，这本就是cd所倡导的。

而James0831上来说的第一句话就是带有人身攻击意味的。。至于我后来激动地回复了几句。。措辞是很粗糙，就此，我对版主表示抱歉。版主可以封我，或者删我ID, 我没有任何意见。

James0831第一次挑衅:
你整天在这里叫啥拿了个darden offer到处叫嚣乎东西
给你DARDEN排#1 好么？

James0831发给我的站内信
狗B 我操你全家 2010-04-03 00:12:23

如果说,我说的话算骂人的话。。。James0831的话应该算喷粪了吧。

我就此打住了。。多说无益。。

-- by 会员 jeffmou (2010/4/3 10:26:56)

作者: ggyy1989 时间: 2010-4-3 11:01
淡定！

作者: Paris2009 时间: 2010-4-3 11:09
呼唤版主出现，有人的ID该被封了。。。

作者: ziye210 时间: 2010-4-3 11:12
本来都挺和谐了，就不要再吵架了，谢谢你们啊。

作者: summit 时间: 2010-4-3 11:26
我记得jeffmou是去Ross吧？
Ross在BW上的排名是第五。

作者: pharse 时间: 2010-4-3 14:53
呜呼哀哉！就这种素质，还MBA呢。。。唉，出去别丢中国人的脸就行。

作者: QDJY78 时间: 2010-4-3 16:39
MBA本来就被神化了其实最后都是看个人人家张磊Yale的能捐那么多哪个M7的能行

都是ROSS的MBA 看看携隐再看看这个呵呵

呜呼哀哉！就这种素质，还MBA呢。。。唉，出去别丢中国人的脸就行。

-- by 会员 pharse (2010/4/3 14:53:12)

作者: applehao 时间: 2010-4-3 17:21

MBA本来就被神化了其实最后都是看个人人家张磊Yale的能捐那么多哪个M7的能行

都是ROSS的MBA 看看携隐再看看这个呵呵

呜呼哀哉！就这种素质，还MBA呢。。。唉，出去别丢中国人的脸就行。

-- by 会员 pharse (2010/4/3 14:53:12)

-- by 会员 QDJY78 (2010/4/3 16:39:30)

在意见相左时就出言不逊恶言相向？进了商学院也用这一招如何？哈哈

作者: Paris2009 时间: 2010-4-3 17:34
大家心平气和的吧，讨论问题，就不要太感情用事了，MBA圈子很小，大家说不定以后会一起合作的。以和为贵嘛！

作者: NgKKh 时间: 2010-4-3 17:41
最近CD上不少人的做法还真是让人失望。

作者: WUSTL2012 时间: 2010-4-3 17:46

MBA本来就被神化了其实最后都是看个人人家张磊Yale的能捐那么多哪个M7的能行

都是ROSS的MBA 看看携隐再看看这个呵呵

呜呼哀哉！就这种素质，还MBA呢。。。唉，出去别丢中国人的脸就行。

-- by 会员 pharse (2010/4/3 14:53:12)

-- by 会员 QDJY78 (2010/4/3 16:39:30)

怎么都喜欢给人戴个高帽子？？？然后用唾沫星子把人淹死？？？
别人的素质怎样，也不是你们随随便便定论的吧！谁没个发小脾气，不理智的时候呢？难道你们就是那么的纯洁和有素质？
建议斑竹封贴吧，排名问题本就没啥必要讨论。况且这个帖子一旦被人利用，终将演变为网络暴力。

作者: QDJY78 时间: 2010-4-3 19:11
wow, a newly created account. hoho~~ Thanks

MBA本来就被神化了其实最后都是看个人人家张磊Yale的能捐那么多哪个M7的能行

都是ROSS的MBA 看看携隐再看看这个呵呵

呜呼哀哉！就这种素质，还MBA呢。。。唉，出去别丢中国人的脸就行。

-- by 会员 pharse (2010/4/3 14:53:12)

-- by 会员 QDJY78 (2010/4/3 16:39:30)

-- by 会员 WUSTL2012 (2010/4/3 17:46:22)

作者: WUSTL2012 时间: 2010-4-3 19:25

wow, a newly created account. hoho~~ Thanks

MBA本来就被神化了其实最后都是看个人人家张磊Yale的能捐那么多哪个M7的能行

都是ROSS的MBA 看看携隐再看看这个呵呵

呜呼哀哉！就这种素质，还MBA呢。。。唉，出去别丢中国人的脸就行。

-- by 会员 pharse (2010/4/3 14:53:12)

-- by 会员 QDJY78 (2010/4/3 16:39:30)

-- by 会员 WUSTL2012 (2010/4/3 17:46:22)

-- by 会员 QDJY78 (2010/4/3 19:11:02)

我知道你想说什么，但是你想错了！
不过你么，别以为别人看不出哦。打字不用标点的人 :-)。给点专业精神嘛！！
我看你04年就注册了，都元老级人物了，小女子失敬失敬啊！！
不过人家都不和你说了，你也该干嘛就干嘛去吧。
Good luck~

作者: olivermu 时间: 2010-4-3 19:36
看了下帖子前面的内容还是有价值的
当然某些同学挑衅在先是实不过站短骂人有失风度哦

大家和为贵 calm down

ls mm好犀利赞一个哈哈

作者: WUSTL2012 时间: 2010-4-3 19:41

看了下帖子前面的内容还是有价值的
当然某些同学挑衅在先是实不过站短骂人有失风度哦

大家和为贵 calm down

ls mm好犀利赞一个哈哈

-- by 会员 olivermu (2010/4/3 19:36:52)

又一个不用标点的。。。。。。吃饭去了。。复杂

作者: StuntGp 时间: 2010-4-4 01:26

MBA本来就被神化了其实最后都是看个人人家张磊Yale的能捐那么多哪个M7的能行

都是ROSS的MBA 看看携隐再看看这个呵呵

呜呼哀哉！就这种素质，还MBA呢。。。唉，出去别丢中国人的脸就行。

-- by 会员 pharse (2010/4/3 14:53:12)

-- by 会员 QDJY78 (2010/4/3 16:39:30)

张磊也能算是正面典型？？？悲哀啊……

作者: applehao 时间: 2010-4-4 11:15
关于张磊，呵呵，姑且不论是否正面典型，中国的教育制度之失败可见一斑。

作者: StuntGp 时间: 2010-4-5 00:05

关于张磊，呵呵，姑且不论是否正面典型，中国的教育制度之失败可见一斑。

-- by 会员 applehao (2010/4/4 11:15:42)

昨日听到关于张磊捐款之内幕消息：张其实是低调的，yale的校长希望拉到更多捐款，所以高调宣传；结果引来中国国内一片哗然，情急之下Yale校长致电复旦大学的校长老秦（解放日报主编对中国新闻舆论导向有着独到的见解）商量如何处理此事，老秦告之不作任何反馈，息事宁人！

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