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作者: glitters 时间: 2010-2-8 21:10
标题: 【求助】GWD30-Q1:
1. GWD30-Q1:
The artistRenoir’s last word was “flowers,” spoken as they arranged a bouquet of rosesjust picked from his garden in a vase on his bedroom windowsill.

A. as they arranged a bouquet of roses justpicked from his garden
B. as a bouquet of roses had been just pickedfrom his garden and was being arranged
C. as a bouquet of roses just picked from hisgarden was being arranged
D. during the arrangement of a bouquet of rosesjust picked from his garden
E. while they arranged a bouquet of roses thathad just been picked from his garden
答案是C.

为什么D不对啊？C中being很别扭

作者: rianne 时间: 2010-2-8 23:48
Renoir死的时候说的最后一句话与插花这个动作是同时发生的，应该用过去进行时。
而且arrange有动词形式的选项的时候优先用动词吧~~
再说，虽然不是平行结构，但是spoken有被动的意思
“word”被“spoken”与“花儿”“被插”比较对称吧~~

嗯，欢迎讨论哈~~

作者: gtr 时间: 2010-2-9 03:36

1. GWD30-Q1:
The artistRenoir’s last word was “flowers,” spoken as they arranged a bouquet of rosesjust picked from his garden in a vase on his bedroom windowsill.

A. as they arranged a bouquet of roses justpicked from his garden
B. as a bouquet of roses had been just pickedfrom his garden and was being arranged
C. as a bouquet of roses just picked from hisgarden was being arranged
D. during the arrangement of a bouquet of rosesjust picked from his garden
E. while they arranged a bouquet of roses thathad just been picked from his garden
答案是C.

为什么D不对啊？C中being很别扭

-- by 会员 glitters (2010/2/8 21:10:46)

呵呵，你把D彻底弄成一个句子，读一下：　The artist Renoir’s last word was “flowers,” spoken during the arrangement of a bouquet of roses just picked from his garden in a vase on his bedroom windowsill.
his garden in a vase on his bedroom windowsill??
这个花园怎么在瓶子里呢？

作者: glitters 时间: 2010-2-9 12:54
哦，有道理，谢谢大家！

作者: jaze 时间: 2011-3-7 10:26

Renoir死的时候说的最后一句话与插花这个动作是同时发生的，应该用过去进行时。
而且arrange有动词形式的选项的时候优先用动词吧~~
再说，虽然不是平行结构，但是spoken有被动的意思
“word”被“spoken”与“花儿”“被插”比较对称吧~~

嗯，欢迎讨论哈~~

-- by 会员 rianne (2010/2/8 23:48:27)

B 选项为什么不对能解释一下吗？

作者: dunhillsolo 时间: 2011-3-7 15:30
and 兩邊時態要對稱吧＠＿＠

作者: FIONA78321 时间: 2011-4-27 19:58
在别的地方看到的：
"as" indicates that things are going on simultaneously, so switching to "had just been" is wrong

作者: leosnoon 时间: 2011-5-2 00:35

-- by 会员 rianne (2010/2/8 23:48:27)

B 选项为什么不对能解释一下吗？

-- by 会员 jaze (2011/3/7 10:26:24)

mm我来回答你，虽然过去两年了，呵呵
我选B了，但是完全是因为想多了，我当时的第一反应是采花应该在spoken前，所以我觉得应该用had been just picked , 而插花是在spoken的同时，所以要用 was being arranged。
anyway, 没有那么复杂啦，这里的spoken是分词形式修饰'flowers', picked直接修饰花就好了，因为这里不强调采花这个动作是在前还是怎样，但是这里强调了插花这个动作是同时，spokenasa bouquet of roses just picked from his garden was being arranged.
p.s open to discuss

作者: mongmong 时间: 2011-10-9 11:17

在别的地方看到的：
"as" indicates that things are going on simultaneously, so switching to "had just been" is wrong

-- by 会员 FIONA78321 (2011/4/27 19:58:48)

怎么这么好~

作者: 花露水6 时间: 2012-9-8 11:06
顶一个！一针见血的呢

作者: 云游 时间: 2013-11-24 13:36

leosnoon 发表于 2011-5-2 00:35
Renoir死的时候说的最后一句话与插花这个动作是同时发生的，应该用过去进行时。而且arrange有动词形 ...

我来补充点东西好，这道题目也想了蛮久。
B我觉得从语法是没有问题的，但是关键是meaning.
last words, spoken as....意思是他者最后几个字是在什么时候说的。
那么这个as之后跟的必须表示一个时间，而不是两个时间。像B中的as rose had been picked up和as rose was being arranged是两个时间，所以不能并列在这里。

作者: evanxie9669 时间: 2014-3-29 12:13

FIONA78321 发表于 2011-4-27 19:58
在别的地方看到的："as" indicates that things are going on simultaneously, so switching to "had just ...

可是，as有很多种用法，一种可以是伴随着，这样你说得对，两个动作是同时发生；可另一种用法是“如同”，我认为这题中的as是这个用法，如同一束玫瑰怎么怎么了，那一束玫瑰had been……并无不妥。
我认为根据曼哈顿时态的解释，had been是需要这个动作产生持续影响，而本题中“pick”或者说没有影响，或者本题根本不需要强调这种影响，因而多去完成时多余。

作者: 典座 时间: 2020-7-3 13:14
发一个Ron在Manhattan论坛上对D的解释——

The actual mistake in choice D is the word "arrangement". "Arrangement" doesn't refer to the process of arranging something; it refers to the arrangement that results from that process.
(Similarly, "as I was judging xxxx" makes sense. "During my judgment of xxxxx" doesn't, because a judgment is a conclusion, not the process of arriving at that conclusion.)

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