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标题: Duke新生欢迎帖。一年级同学在此开贴回答关于Duke学习生活的各种问题。 [打印本页]

作者: justgoahead 时间: 2010-1-20 10:51
标题: Duke新生欢迎帖。一年级同学在此开贴回答关于Duke学习生活的各种问题。
Dear Duke Admitted Students,

I am a first year MBA student at Fuqua. First of all, congratulations on being admitted to Duke MBA program! You guys did an excellent job!

In order to help you make a decision of whether to accept this offer or not, OR help you make good preparation from now to the date of enrollment, here I open this post to take questions that you may have. I also learn that many of you will meet and network with each other. If you have common questions, you could also post questions as a group. I will try my best to help you, or direct the right people/resources. Though our responses are based on our personal experiences (not official), we want to do it in a way that we demonstrate "Team Fuqua"!

Once again, congratulations!

**********一点说明：

各位同学，

首先再次恭喜大家拿到Duke的Offer，并非常赞赏大家积极准备的行动力。

开此贴的目的，是尽我所能帮助大家解答有关在Duke学习和生活的问题。我想，问题大概分成这样三类：

第一类是经验经历类：类似于开学前的求职准备、学校的某个program有什么特色、club可以involve的活动等有关facts和experiences之类的问题，我亲身经历过或者观察过的，可以与大家分享感受与见闻；

第二类是规章流程类：类似于学校是否提供免费的幼儿园等有关学校在教学和运营管理上的规定，如果问题非常具体，我很可能没有亲身经历，最好的途径，是与学校直接取得联系，获取官方的解释；

第三类是介于两者之间的，类似于全部贷款是否在获得visa上有难度，规章流程上，要了解并按照既定程序来，这个需要自己下功夫，不能外包也不能偷懒；经验经历上，我一定会把我知道的分享给大家。

仅在这里做一点说明，希望我能够在有限的时间里尽最大努力帮助大家。

作者: adamli2000 时间: 2010-1-20 11:03
果然非常collaborative

作者: steven 时间: 2010-1-20 11:07
这个要顶一下~

作者: justgoahead 时间: 2010-1-20 11:28
Here are some points to start with:

1 - Transition: DCSSA website (杜克大学中国学生学者联谊会). Under "New Comers" section, there are many useful materials for how to get prepared for transition. http://dukechina.org/blog/topics/3-new-comers

2 - Academics: if you are pure Fine Arts background, a BASIC level preparation of statistics and microeconomics is very helpful.

3 - English: frankly, if you speak good English, you will find your advantage (at least not a disadvantage) at school.

4 - Career: three things - one, think hard what you really want to do; if you can't find an answer, think what you DO NOT want to do; two, start networking with alumni and current students to understand your target industry and company; and three, it is never too late to get prepared; I guarantee everyone that you will find how much you want to have 48 hours within a day.

作者: abigred 时间: 2010-1-20 11:51
great thanks for the tips above!

i have a question regarding the English Language Institute. How necessary it is to go to the institute? i am thinking about applying the waiver... what's the % of admitted students who participated in the institue last year? the starting date is not convenient for me, but if it's like a warm-up or getting-to-know-people occassion, i might consider going. fyi - i work in an MNC where English is the first language and half-year oversea education.

thanks again！

作者: nirvana118 时间: 2010-1-20 11:54
好贴，要顶！

作者: justgoahead 时间: 2010-1-20 12:04

great thanks for the tips above!

i have a question regarding the English Language Institute. How necessary it is to go to the institute? i am thinking about applying the waiver... what's the % of admitted students who participated in the institue last year? the starting date is not convenient for me, but if it's like a warm-up or getting-to-know-people occassion, i might consider going. fyi - i work in an MNC where English is the first language and half-year oversea education.

thanks again！

-- by 会员 abigred (2010/1/20 11:51:38)

Congratulations on your offer!

You are correct - the objective of LI is to get ready for your communication skills and start networking with your peers. Here are some points:

1. most international students are required to attend LI (U.S. students won't join); some of them have applied waiver, due to their background. I am one of them. English is my major; I have been teaching English (part-time) for years; and I worked for FIEs and used English in many different situations. You may try to contact school and explain why you are qualified for a waiver.

2. the value of LI is to get you prepared. Communication in a pure English environment is not as easy as you expect. I do see some students suffer in both classes and after-class networking events. Come and get prepared - that could help you anyway.

3. in the first term, there is one core course named "Management Communication". some students find their LI experiences are helpful for that course.

overall, it could be discussed with school. LI has some value, but it depends on different people.

作者: 夕X4 时间: 2010-1-20 13:43
hi, buddy,
i am in the waitlist...but i am really intersted in Fuqua program.
do you have any suggestions to help me get admitted? what's the next step i can do to help the admission committee make the decision...
Many thanks

作者: justgoahead 时间: 2010-1-20 14:30

hi, buddy,
i am in the waitlist...but i am really intersted in Fuqua program.
do you have any suggestions to help me get admitted? what's the next step i can do to help the admission committee make the decision...
Many thanks

-- by 会员夕X4 (2010/1/20 13:43:49)

hi, thanks for your interest in Duke MBA. I am not familiar with your application, and can't comment on specific actions you can take. But being on the waitlist shows that you are seriously considered by the school. generally, you may do:

- try to search for similar background admitted students, and see how they made it in;

- see if you really have areas for improvement and make improvement. e.g. GMAT, leadership experiences and etc;

- keep in touch with your interviewer and school contact and show your commitment;

- network with current students and alumni and ask for advice - be careful about that, because you may impress them or disappoint them as well.

There are cases where WLed applicants are admitted. Keep it positive, and good luck!

作者: aspirant2010 时间: 2010-1-20 14:48
justgoahead, Thank you for your kind helps.

May I ask you a question: What do you wish you had done before enrolled in the MBA class? I am considering doing something to prepare myself for the coming class and my future job search. My background is engineering; and my goal is consulting. Maybe a CFA or pre-MBA internship is a good idea? Thanks in advance

作者: Top10 时间: 2010-1-20 16:19
请教两个问题：

1，Duke的background verification大约在什么时候进行，什么形式？是否还要另外提交公证材料？因为不想让HR部门提前知道辞职的事情。
2，不知是否了解Duke MBA全自费的签证形式如何，如果存款cover两年所有费用是不是一般问题不大？

谢谢

作者: shuxuehai 时间: 2010-1-20 16:47
弱弱地问一下，其他学校录取的学生可以不可以参加那个语言课程呢，呵呵。谢谢。

作者: youneverknow 时间: 2010-1-20 19:04

请教两个问题：

1，Duke的background verification大约在什么时候进行，什么形式？是否还要另外提交公证材料？因为不想让HR部门提前知道辞职的事情。
2，不知是否了解Duke MBA全自费的签证形式如何，如果存款cover两年所有费用是不是一般问题不大？

谢谢

-- by 会员 Top10 (2010/1/20 16:19:20)

顶，同问~~

作者: youneverknow 时间: 2010-1-20 19:07

Here are some points to start with:

1 - Transition: DCSSA website (杜克大学中国学生学者联谊会). Under "New Comers" section, there are many useful materials for how to get prepared for transition. http://dukechina.org/blog/topics/3-new-comers

2 - Academics: if you are pure Fine Arts background, a BASIC level preparation of statistics and microeconomics is very helpful.

-- by 会员 justgoahead (2010/1/20 11:28:50)

can you recommend a book list for statistics, microeconomics and maybe financial accounting ? Thank you very much!

作者: silvia03 时间: 2010-1-20 22:53
想问一下, Duke有没有可能安排电话面试？今天收到邮件，R2的面试安排在二月初，这么短的时间，很难安排从新加坡飞回上海或北京。不知道有没有什么办法？谢谢。

作者: xfileboy 时间: 2010-1-20 23:09
Hi silvia03. In light of my personal experience, I would say a phone interview is certainly ok. Just email Anne Caitlin to ask for it.

想问一下, Duke有没有可能安排电话面试？今天收到邮件，R2的面试安排在二月初，这么短的时间，很难安排从新加坡飞回上海或北京。不知道有没有什么办法？谢谢。

-- by 会员 silvia03 (2010/1/20 22:53:51)

作者: silvia03 时间: 2010-1-20 23:46
Thanks xfileboy, would you mind giving me Anne's email address? Thanks in advance.

作者: xfileboy 时间: 2010-1-20 23:56
Isn't it Anne Caitlin that send you the invite? Or you may contact the guy who offer you the interview. Any way her email is anne-caitlin.procopio@duke.edu.

Thanks xfileboy, would you mind giving me Anne's email address? Thanks in advance.

-- by 会员 silvia03 (2010/1/20 23:46:16)

作者: silvia03 时间: 2010-1-21 00:08
Thanks a lot!

作者: hold_on 时间: 2010-1-21 09:18
是不是要先办贷款再填那个visa的web portal？然后再给学校发相关文件？能不能把往下的程序说一下？谢谢啦~~~

作者: sheeper 时间: 2010-1-21 10:45
杜克校友的热情真是名不虚传。很期待六月份能见到你的真身！

我的问题和之前大家提出的类似。
1）LI语言学习班。因为我之前在美国读过文科的MA，所以已经写信去问Peggy是不是可以免掉。她是admission operation coordinator。至今没有回信。是不是有别的人可以问？
2）计划中2月底去银行办理存款证明再寄给学校办理I-20以及签证。大侠觉得这个时间是不是可行？
3）我在网上看到duke的幼儿园是全美五星级，有打算带孩子过来，学校的幼儿园是免费的吗？如果付费，每个月学费多少？

这厢谢过了～～

作者: justgoahead 时间: 2010-1-22 13:48

justgoahead, Thank you for your kind helps.

May I ask you a question: What do you wish you had done before enrolled in the MBA class? I am considering doing something to prepare myself for the coming class and my future job search. My background is engineering; and my goal is consulting. Maybe a CFA or pre-MBA internship is a good idea? Thanks in advance

-- by 会员 aspirant2010 (2010/1/20 14:48:24)

Asp, if you want to do consulting, I recommend you to make efforts in two ways:

- the first and most important is preparation of case interview. Nothing is more important than this. Buy two books "Case in Point" & "Crack the Case". Start reading them.

- start reviewing company websites, and networking with alumni.

作者: justgoahead 时间: 2010-1-22 13:50

弱弱地问一下，其他学校录取的学生可以不可以参加那个语言课程呢，呵呵。谢谢。

-- by 会员 shuxuehai (2010/1/20 16:47:08)

I am not aware of any case where non-admitted students are enrolled in this course...

作者: justgoahead 时间: 2010-1-22 13:53

杜克校友的热情真是名不虚传。很期待六月份能见到你的真身！

-- by 会员 sheeper (2010/1/21 10:45:18)

Sheeper, my pleasure!

1) ask the person who sent you email about the LI. if not, call them; if not, call your interviewer. there is a way that you could reach to school. I would say, wait for a while a bit. this period could be busy, as we JUST started our new term.

2) way sufficient time

3) wow. this is a question that you may probably ask school directly, would you? :-)

作者: justgoahead 时间: 2010-1-22 13:55

-- by 会员 Top10 (2010/1/20 16:19:20)

1. I did not receive any background check though.

2. wow. if you could provide that much, I would say, visa is not a problem. don't worry.

作者: justgoahead 时间: 2010-1-22 14:06
各位同学，

首先再次恭喜大家拿到Duke的Offer，并非常赞赏大家积极准备的行动力。

开此贴的目的，是尽我所能帮助大家解答有关在Duke学习和生活的问题。我想，问题大概分成这样三类：

第一类是经验经历类：类似于开学前的求职准备、学校的某个program有什么特色、club可以involve的活动等有关facts和experiences之类的问题，我亲身经历过或者观察过的，可以与大家分享感受与见闻；

第二类是规章流程类：类似于学校是否提供免费的幼儿园等有关学校在教学和运营管理上的规定，如果问题非常具体，我很可能没有亲身经历，最好的途径，是与学校直接取得联系，获取官方的解释；

第三类是介于两者之间的，类似于全部贷款是否在获得visa上有难度，规章流程上，要了解并按照既定程序来，这个需要自己下功夫，不能外包也不能偷懒；经验经历上，我一定会把我知道的分享给大家。

仅在这里做一点说明，希望我能够在有限的时间里尽最大努力帮助大家。

作者: justgoahead 时间: 2010-1-22 14:07

Isn't it Anne Caitlin that send you the invite? Or you may contact the guy who offer you the interview. Any way her email is anne-caitlin.procopio@duke.edu.

Thanks xfileboy, would you mind giving me Anne's email address? Thanks in advance.

-- by 会员 silvia03 (2010/1/20 23:46:16)

-- by 会员 xfileboy (2010/1/20 23:56:00)

Thanks a lot, xfileboy!

作者: sheeper 时间: 2010-1-23 10:20
谢谢justgoahead的热情回答。今天早上看到学校的来信，我的语言课已经被免掉了。duke的工作效率真不是盖的。
有类似需求的同学，请直接联系
Megan Lynam <megan.lynam@duke.edu
Director of Operations and Evaluation, Admissions

作者: aspirant2010 时间: 2010-1-23 15:12
谢谢sheeper

作者: stellaleigh 时间: 2010-1-23 20:42
好贴要顶~

作者: stellaleigh 时间: 2010-1-23 21:24

杜克校友的热情真是名不虚传。很期待六月份能见到你的真身！

-- by 会员 sheeper (2010/1/21 10:45:18)

呵呵，你已经见过啦~

作者: justgoahead 时间: 2010-1-24 00:35

是不是要先办贷款再填那个visa的web portal？然后再给学校发相关文件？能不能把往下的程序说一下？谢谢啦~~~

-- by 会员 hold_on (2010/1/21 9:18:01)

hold on, did you receive a set of procedures from school? if not, I guess the best way is to check the Embassy website. They clearly state what documents you need to prepare before you go there. frankly, I really can't remember what I did last year. sorry about that. but overall, do according to U.S. Embassy - you can't go against with them...:-)

作者: Top10 时间: 2010-1-27 15:59
不知道新的Cost of Attendance预算什么时候出来，好像要这个出来后才能办I-20。

作者: aspirant2010 时间: 2010-1-27 16:49
请问如果第一年不贷款，第二年在美国还可以贷款吗？签证时资产证明是否能cover第一年的费用就可以了? 谢谢

作者: shuxuehai 时间: 2010-1-27 17:25
问过一些学校的情况，貌似是要2年的学费全部涵盖学校才会开出I-20。。。

作者: Top10 时间: 2010-1-27 17:43
Duke我记得是开一年的就可以
签证时候，理论上来说资金要cover I20上的费用，当然越多越好，如果能证明有持续资金来源也可以。

作者: yew 时间: 2010-2-3 17:50
我比较关心duke的交通问题，据说duke应该是在一个小镇上吧，那么在MBA读书期间如何去network呢？谢谢！

作者: robcat 时间: 2010-2-4 16:37
dukie确实很热情啊。今天刚刚收到admission package.请问一下，给国际学生的non co-signer loan在2010-2011 academic year 还有吗？为什么在admission package里的financial aid general information 里没有提到。学校网站倒是提到了。但是还是想确认一下。不知道哪位在校的前辈来解答一下。谢谢！^^

作者: shirlyhan 时间: 2010-2-4 20:46
想问问HSM什么时候可以注册呢？难道要等到开学后？注册HSM有什么步骤和要求吗？

作者: aspirant2010 时间: 2010-2-12 21:09
学校确认了，I20上要求的只是第一年的资金证明，具体数额2月底或者3月初会确定

作者: justgoahead 时间: 2010-2-19 10:09

想问问HSM什么时候可以注册呢？难道要等到开学后？注册HSM有什么步骤和要求吗？

-- by 会员 shirlyhan (2010/2/4 20:46:44)

hi Shirly, it is good that you are interested in HSM program. I remember HSM program will send out emails around April or May (can't remember the exact time), and this is to consider all R2 admitted students. If you want to know more about the program and timeline, you could check the HSM website @ http://www.fuqua.duke.edu/programs/duke_mba/health_sector_management/hsm_daytime
You will find contacts there. just email them. hope it helps!

Jason

作者: justgoahead 时间: 2010-2-19 10:12

dukie确实很热情啊。今天刚刚收到admission package.请问一下，给国际学生的non co-signer loan在2010-2011 academic year 还有吗？为什么在admission package里的financial aid general information 里没有提到。学校网站倒是提到了。但是还是想确认一下。不知道哪位在校的前辈来解答一下。谢谢！^^

-- by 会员 robcat (2010/2/4 16:37:39)

Robcat, I am not the treasurer, so I don't know. :-) but, I personally do not feel financial aid, specifically non co-signer loan will be an issue. If people can even get it last year (2009), there is no reason why we could not get it this year. Double check with financial aid office would be good though.

Jason

作者: justgoahead 时间: 2010-2-19 10:16

我比较关心duke的交通问题，据说duke应该是在一个小镇上吧，那么在MBA读书期间如何去network呢？谢谢！

-- by 会员 yew (2010/2/3 17:50:04)

yew, we are driving all day, to school, to supermarket, to malls, to pubs and to whatever place. you have to drive here. in terms of networking, there are so many opportunities. many of the company representatives will come to campus, so we don't worry about that. if you want to do banking, then that's different. you need to fly to the street very often (Wall Street). in addition to that, many alumni will be invited to campus to either share experiences or conduct mock interview sessions, which is very good. speaking about off-campus, then you need to figure out where you want to work, and starting from there. if you are interested in Chicago, then you need to go there. if you want to go back to China, then a lot of communications would be through phones and emails. and you may need to travel back to China during breaks, which is what I did last year. hope it helps!

Jason

作者: justgoahead 时间: 2010-2-19 10:17

不知道新的Cost of Attendance预算什么时候出来，好像要这个出来后才能办I-20。

-- by 会员 Top10 (2010/1/27 15:59:59)

Top10, you may refer to prior year cost schedule - it should not be a big difference though.

Jason

作者: leo-liu 时间: 2010-3-17 10:35
能不能介绍一下 Duke P4E 那个创业项目到底有没有实际意义
貌似极少中国人参与

谢谢

作者: 琥珀川 时间: 2010-3-17 18:22
对于创业和VC来讲，Fuqua的资源还是很丰富的，CEI (Center of Entrepreneurship & Innocation）每年都举办很多活动。至于中国人参与少那也不奇怪，一共就二十来个中国人，再加上有志于创业的也不在多数，所以就不太会看到中国人身影啦！不过，这不影响你积极参与啊！

商学院提供的资源再多，最终还是要落实到自己，一定要积极利用资源，勇于掺和，不怕丢人才能有所收获！

能不能介绍一下 Duke P4E 那个创业项目到底有没有实际意义
貌似极少中国人参与

谢谢

-- by 会员 leo-liu (2010/3/17 10:35:14)

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