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作者: 雪落无声    时间: 2004-3-26 12:38
标题: 分词和不定式的区别/大全413

1.                         In the mid-1920’s the Hawthorne Works of the Western Electric Company was the scene of an intensive series of experiments that would investigate changes in working conditions as to their effects on workers’ performance.



(A) that would investigate changes in working conditions as to their effects on workers’ performance



(B) investigating the effects that changes in working conditions would have on workers’ performance



(C) for investigating what are the effects in workers’ performance that changes in working conditions would cause



(D) that investigated changes in working conditions’ effects on workers’ performance



(E) to investigate what the effects changes in working conditions would have on workers’ performance



    



B



1.E中除了what the effects 与B不同外有什么区别,主要想问分词和infinitive的区别



    



再看一题:



    



1.                         Since chromosome damage may be caused by viral infections, medical x-rays, and exposure to sunlight, it is important that the chromosomes of a population to be tested for chemically induced damage be compared with those of a control population.



(A) to be tested for chemically induced damage be compared with



(B) being tested for damage induced chemically are compared with



(C) being tested for chemically induced damage should be compared to



(D) being tested for chemically induced damage are to be compared to



(E) that is to be tested for chemically induced damage are to be comparable with



    



A)可以从it is important that 看出要用be compared with,



2.若B改成being tested for damage induced chemically be compared with对吗?



3.这里induced chemically 放在前面和后面意思有什么改变吗?






作者: dansy    时间: 2004-3-26 14:11
B?
作者: weiyu    时间: 2004-3-26 17:33
    

小雪MM. 不定式表示目的, 一次性动作(自认为太绝对); 分词可以当伴随状语, 和起定语从句的作用(强调重复性动作, 自认为不要作为判断选项的依据)fficeffice" />


本题的关键还是在于对句子意思的理解:


B的中文意思是: 研究一种效果, 那就是工作条件的变化对工人表现的影响.


E的中文意思是: 研究工作条件变化的效果对工人表现的影响.


这里的效果是条件变化对工人表现, 而不是条件变化的效果.


作者: 雪落无声    时间: 2004-3-26 23:30
选B对的,dansy


FT,又太晚要熄灯来不及看了:(5555555555555555


作者: 雪落无声    时间: 2004-3-28 21:55
你的解释偶懂了,是句子重心的问题。谢谢GG


    


    


作者: weiyu    时间: 2004-3-28 21:59
以下是引用雪落无声在2004-3-28 21:55:00的发言:
你的解释偶懂了,是句子重心的问题。谢谢GG


我觉得是句子逻辑意思的合理性, 不是句子重心.

作者: 雪落无声    时间: 2004-3-28 22:09
我    感觉句子重心的改变就会导致逻辑搭配的问题


NN以为呢?


作者: weiyu    时间: 2004-3-28 22:12
我觉得有时句子意思是合理的,但是句子重心可以有变化. 当句子意思合理时, 表达出化线部分要表达的句子重心意思是优选选项
作者: tianwan    时间: 2004-3-28 22:14
(E) to investigate what the effects changes in working conditions would have on workers’ performance:不定式做定语不恰当(不定式做定语而不是同位语修饰名词的时候,应带有may,can,must,will,should等助动词的意思,investigate这个动作没有这些情态。就是调查,不是可能调查,会调查,应该调查等等);what多余;changes前缺少that,不符合标准书面语规范。


再请以后发贴加题号,谢谢。


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作者: 雪落无声    时间: 2004-3-28 23:00
1.e选项中,change如果前面加了that是作为定从修饰effect吗?还是同位修饰?


2.to tianwan,"(E) to investigate what the effects changes in working conditions would have on workers’ performance:不定式做定语不恰当(不定式做定语而不是同位语修饰名词的时候,应带有may,can,must,will,should等助动词的意思,investigate这个动作没有这些情态。就是调查,不是可能调查,会调查,应该调查等等);"


看得不是很明白,能举个例子吗?





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作者: 雪落无声    时间: 2004-4-1 10:16
DING


作者: ecsniffer    时间: 2004-4-1 10:44
以下是引用雪落无声在2004-3-28 23:00:00的发言:
1.e选项中,change如果前面加了that是作为定从修饰effect吗?还是同位修饰?



2.to tianwan,"(E) to investigate what the effects changes in working conditions would have on workers’ performance:不定式做定语不恰当(不定式做定语而不是同位语修饰名词的时候,应带有may,can,must,will,should等助动词的意思,investigate这个动作没有这些情态。就是调查,不是可能调查,会调查,应该调查等等);"


看得不是很明白,能举个例子吗?








1、如tianwan所说,E中错误是比较多的


    investigating the effects that changes in working conditions would have on workers’ performance


其中,that....定语从句。the effects是would have后面的宾语。
2、不定式做定语不恰当(不定式做定语而不是同位语修饰名词的时候,应带有may,can,must,will,should等助动词的意思,investigate这个动作没有这些情态。就是调查,不是可能调查,会调查,应该调查等等);


我也不懂,赫赫,tianwan经常会对一些很难的语法点做很精辟的解释,崇拜!


tianwan具体说说?


作者: tianwan    时间: 2004-4-1 11:00
《英语语法大全,张道真,温志达》上册,P721。内容太多,无法全部写下来。简而言之,选项E,动词是be,所以这个不定式不应该是目的状语,而应该是experiments的定语。这个不定式应该是一个主谓关系的定语(先行词是主语)。


不定式做定语不是很容易的,张道真总结了10种不同的不定式做定语的关系,你看一下这本书就明白了。一般情况下,能用分词作定语,不要用不定式作定语。


作者: 青鸟    时间: 2004-6-9 21:19

之所以选b的原因是因为e里面的意思表达不清楚,实际的句子结构是这样的;


changes in working conditions) would have (what effects) on workers’ performance





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作者: tulipmontreal    时间: 2004-6-9 22:13

小雪 偶可以举一个例子: I have two letters to write. 这里就带有将来的意思.

DISCUSSION TO BE WELCOMED!


作者: tianwan    时间: 2004-6-10 00:19
In the mid-1920’s the Hawthorne Works of the Western Electric Company was the scene of an intensive series of experiments that would investigate changes in working conditions as to their effects on workers’ performance.

(E) to investigate what the effects changes in working conditions would have on workers’ performanc

不应该是目的状语

1,逻辑主语成了the Hawthorne Works,无法理解。

2,如果是目的状语,可以改成:In order to investigate, the Hawthorne Works  was the scene.主句是系表结构,可以用目的状语吗?

只能是:某人为了什么,什么。不能是:某个东东为了什么,什么。


另外,分词作状语一般要用逗号隔开。


请指正。




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作者: 青鸟    时间: 2004-6-10 12:30

又看了不定式做定语的用法,

不定式和以前讲过的非谓语动词中的分词和动名词一样,还可以做定语。例如,I have something to tell you. (我有事要告诉你。)to tell you做定语修饰something。不过,我们要注意,不定式作定语时有点特别,它一般放在被修饰的名词或代词之后。比如我们要说这是学英语的好机会,那么学英语就是机会的定语,应该用不定式,并放在机会的后面。It's a good chance to learn English."明天他有一个重要的会议要参加。"He has an important meeting to attend tomorrow.

许多形容词、副词、过去分词作表语时,后面也带有不定式,作状语。常见的这类词有glad、sorry、proud、afraid、ready、difficult和good等等。如:He's always be ready to help others.(他总是乐于助人。) The river is good to swim in. (这条河是个游泳的好地方。) English is not difficult to learn. (英语并不是很难学。)

看来势我的概念弄得不清楚,很抱歉。


作者: 青鸟    时间: 2004-6-10 12:32
前面有人问到动名词和动词不定式的区别,解释如下

(1)一般说来动名词所表示的动作在意义上是比较抽象的、一般的,时间概念不强,不是指某一次的动作;而动词不定式所表示的动作则往往是具体的一次行为。例如:

1)I like swimming, but I don’t like to swim today.

2) They prefer staying indoors when the weather is cold.

3) Would you prefer to stay at home this evening?

(2)动词不定式的逻辑主语,常常是句子的主语或句中的某个词;而动名词的逻辑主语可能是句子主语或句中某个词,也可能是泛指一般人物,在句子里是找不着的。例如:

1)I hate to be sitting idle. (我不想闲坐着。)(指自己)

2)I hate saying nothing at a meeting but gossiping afterwards. (我不喜欢开会不说会后乱说。)(可能指自己,也可能泛指一般人)


作者: tulipmontreal    时间: 2004-6-10 17:00
有哪个大侠能翻译一下?
作者: LES    时间: 2004-6-10 17:36
In the mid-1920’s the Hawthorne Works of the Western Electric Company was the scene of an intensive series of experiments that would investigate changes in working conditions as to their effects on workers’ performance.

(E) to investigate what the effects changes in working conditions would have on workers’ performance.

偶觉得E有一个最大的问题是what引导的句子没有谓语。
changes in working conditions would have on workers’ performance是定语从句修饰effects,由于先行词在从句中做宾语,所以可以省略that.


作者: gmat700+    时间: 2004-6-24 10:50

这道题我排除了B,因为investigating the effects that……是现在分词短语做定语修饰experiments,-ing分词做定语表示主动,但是experiments只能是被用来做investigate的手段,它自己不能主动去investigate,所以我觉得用-ing形式在逻辑上有点别扭。

那位牛牛能批驳一下我上面的想法?你们是怎么理解experiments和investigate之间的逻辑关系的?


作者: gmat700+    时间: 2004-6-25 00:08
顶!盼牛牛来回答一下偶的问题!
作者: blur    时间: 2004-10-5 08:45
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作者: jnlvo    时间: 2004-10-5 09:06

这是个误区,experiments可做investigate的逻辑主语,如:These experiments investigate air pressure。当然experiments也可被用来做investigate的手段。两种表达都可接受。


作者: cccccc0    时间: 2006-11-22 21:59
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作者: sch    时间: 2007-10-28 06:21
In the mid-1920’s the Hawthorne Works of the Western Electric Company was the scene of an intensive series of experiments that would investigate changes in working conditions as to their effects on workers’ performance.
  

(E) to investigate what the effects
    changes in working conditions would have on workers’ performance.

偶觉得E有一个最大的问题是what引导的句子没有谓语。
   changes in working conditions would have on workers’ performance是定语从句修饰effects,由于先行词在从句中做宾语,所以可以省略that.

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为什么总有说E的what从句缺少谓语呢?我就不觉得啊. 如果 effects changes作为主语呢?不就是不缺谓语了?
to investigate what the effects changes (主语)in working conditions would have(谓语) on workers’ performance..

是不是还是需要从不定式的用法来寻求突破解释呢??

不指望回答了.....


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作者: kare0011    时间: 2007-10-28 22:56
前面有人问到动名词和动词不定式的区别,解释如下
    

(1)一般说来动名词所表示的动作在意义上是比较抽象的、一般的,时间概念不强,不是指某一次的动作;而动词不定式所表示的动作则往往是具体的一次行为。例如:

1)I like swimming, but I don’t like to swim today.

2) They prefer staying indoors when the weather is cold.

3) Would you prefer to stay at home this evening?

(2)动词不定式的逻辑主语,常常是句子的主语或句中的某个词;而动名词的逻辑主语可能是句子主语或句中某个词,也可能是泛指一般人物,在句子里是找不着的。例如:

1)I hate to be sitting idle. (我不想闲坐着。)(指自己)

2)I hate saying nothing at a meeting but gossiping afterwards. (我不喜欢开会不说会后乱说。)(可能指自己,也可能泛指一般人)

谢谢!!

另外,补充一点在薄冰语法书上看到的关于不定式和现在分词做后置定语式的区别:区别主要表现在两个方面

1)时间上的区别:不定式着重表示未来,现在分词表“当时或正在进行或经常”

2)语义上的区别:不定式表示潜在的可能与结果;现在分词表示事实或真实情况

我在想这的experiment后面用investigating 来表示当时的一个事实

大家看呢??


作者: 没了    时间: 2007-10-30 16:50
以下是引用tianwan在2004-3-28 22:14:00的发言:
(E) to investigate what the effects changes in working conditions would have on workers’ performance:不定式做定语不恰当(不定式做定语而不是同位语修饰名词的时候,应带有may,can,must,will,should等助动词的意思,investigate这个动作没有这些情态。就是调查,不是可能调查,会调查,应该调查等等);what多余;changes前缺少that,不符合标准书面语规范。
        
再请以后发贴加题号,谢谢。
        

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