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作者: dogshead    时间: 2009-12-17 14:45
标题: 再问prep 150,关于同位语
150. (33009-!-item-!-188;#058&006530)
The computer company has announced that it will purchase the color-printing division of a rival

company for $950 million, which is part of a deal that will make it the largest manufacturer in the

office color-printing market.
(A) million, which is part of a deal that will make

(B) million, a part of a deal that makes

(C) million, part of a deal making

(D) million as a part of a deal to make

(E) million as part of a deal that will make

C的错误有人解释为part a deal在前面找不到对应的同位对象。但是有些总结前面句子意思的同位语不需要一定有相同的词语出现在前面句子中的(有题,记不得了)。比如这里,我认为即使前面句子没有deal这个词语,deal仍然可以做同位语。这样的话只能是making出问题了。making这里表示状态或者进行都不合适,因为说的是将来的目的。

请NN comments
作者: cynthia627    时间: 2009-12-17 23:53
这道题我也有疑问。那个as是做什么用的呢?承接哪里呢?希望高人指点!谢谢!
作者: 仙蒂瑞拉    时间: 2009-12-18 00:25
The computer company has announced that it will purchase the color-printing division of a rival

company
for $950 million, which is part of a deal that will make it the largest manufacturer in the

office color-printing market.(题目要表达的意思是:purchase the color-printing division of a rival

company
a deal  的一部分。而不是: $950 million 是 a deal 的一部分。)
(A) million, which is part of a deal that will make(which修饰million 错)

(B) million, a part of a deal that makes(a part修饰million 错)

(C) million, part of a deal making(part修饰million 错)
(D) million as a part of a deal to make

(E) million as part of a deal that will make(purchase the division for 950 million as part of deal )正确

把题目的逻辑意思看懂就好做啦~~做SC题千万要看意思啊~~

不知道讲的对不对~请LZ见谅啊!
作者: cynthia627    时间: 2009-12-18 00:27
啊!我明白了!谢谢楼上的~~~
作者: dogshead    时间: 2009-12-18 01:29
LS没理解我的意思哦。同位语不一定是跟着同位对象的, part of deal 是前句的总结性同位语,而不是前面的$950 million的同位语。看看下面的题


61. (27648-!-item-!-188;#058&003611)
Researchers in Germany have unearthed 400,000-year-old wooden spears from what it appears
was an ancient lakeshore hunting ground as stunning evidence of human ancestors who
systematically hunted big game much earlier than believed.
(A) it appears was an ancient lakeshore hunting ground as stunning evidence of human ancestors
who
(B) it appears had been an ancient lakeshore hunting ground and is stunning evidence that human
ancestors
(C) it appears to have been an ancient lakeshore hunting ground and is stunning evidence that
human ancestors
(D) appears to be an ancient lakeshore hunting ground, stunning evidence that human ancestors
(E) appears that it is an ancient lakeshore hunting ground, stunning evidence of human ancestors
who

作者: 仙蒂瑞拉    时间: 2009-12-18 23:12
LZ啊LZ~我不能再看你的例子了~本来我很清楚的~现在有点搞了~~如果LZ近期考可以跟我一样找找feeling.有些选项长得就像正确答案~~
作者: cynthia627    时间: 2009-12-18 23:55
唉,我也是近期。就是22.我来解释。
这个同位语,一般就是修饰主语和宾语。就像61的这个句子, 400,000-year-old wooden spears 这个就是stunning evidnce。但是吧,原来那个句子这么样解释是不对的。我们把宾语找出来是division,这总不是那个的一部分吧?应该是买什么是这个的一部分~
作者: dogshead    时间: 2009-12-19 00:08
谢谢LS两位,我21考,突然发现自己开始怀疑一切了
以前不犹豫就会选的现在想的很多。。。
作者: cynthia627    时间: 2009-12-19 01:01
唉,我这两天,突然看不下去了。主要是一看就觉得超级的紧张……我现在都不敢轻易做题了。我怕到时候错一片,没信心了……
作者: mycontrol01    时间: 2009-12-19 11:14
同位语的话就是修饰主语或者宾语 这个位置并没有优先级 靠逻辑分析

LZ给的题里 ABC里part/a part都是名词性引导的句子所以只能做同位语,而明显这个DEAL是指整个收购计划而不是指的主语或者宾语 因此ABC排除

至于D...想不出硬伤 是不是那个a deal to make暗含了一个"交易的目的是使公司成为第一大的"而有了歧义? 原文意思应该是"这个PURCHASE的发生使公司成为了第一大"  逻辑不同


做题的时候我觉得必须把握住题目想问的逻辑啊..
作者: dogshead    时间: 2009-12-19 12:30
唉,我这两天,突然看不下去了。主要是一看就觉得超级的紧张……我现在都不敢轻易做题了。我怕到时候错一片,没信心了……
-- by 会员 cynthia627 (2009/12/19 1:01:03)



稳住,加油!
作者: cdlxhmn    时间: 2009-12-19 20:20
有关同位语我也想问一下:
是不是必须在修饰名词的前后吧?我感觉如果同位语结构中间插入比如分词结构作修饰,那么就应该不能叫做同位结构了,就是重复主语。
我的意思就是说如果两个名词在一起,可能是同位语结构;但是如果中间被隔开,就肯定不是同位语,如果不是别的什么结构,那肯定是重复主语。比如,PREP1-4
4.    (24603-!-item-!-188;#058&001035)


Nikola Tesla, the inventor of alternating current, because he was excited with the prospects of
harnessing Niagara Falls for producing electric power, hepredicted in the mid-1890's that electricity generated at Niagara would one day power the streetcars of London and the streetlights of Paris.


(A) Nikola Tesla, the inventor of alternating current, because he was excited with the prospects
of harnessing Niagara Falls for producing electric power, he
(B) The prospects of harnessing Niagara Falls to produce electric power was exciting to Nikola
Tesla, the inventor of alternating current, and so he
(C) Excited about the prospects of harnessing Niagara Falls to produce electric power, Nikola
Tesla, the inventor of alternating current,
(D) Nikola Tesla, the inventor of alternating current, excited about the prospects of harnessing
Niagara Falls for the production of electric power and
(E) The inventor of alternating current, excited with the prospects of harnessing Niagara Falls for producing of electric power, Nikola Tesla
E选项,如果去掉excited那部分, The inventor of alternating current,Nikola Tesla可以是同位语;不去掉,就是主语重复(破解上也是认为主语重复)。
另外白勇语法11页也说,同位语一般在名词前或者名词后,也就是说不可能跳跃。。。
最近有点晕,请NN指教。。。
作者: mycontrol01    时间: 2009-12-21 12:29
回LS

有种错误叫主语垂悬应该有印象吧 我觉得对付同位语在很多时候可以用到这个来判断
解释主语的同位语如果在前就垂悬了 和你说的不可跳跃修饰理解起来也差不多...
作者: Hattielin87    时间: 2010-7-19 16:30
这道题好像是选B吧,前辈也不顺便把答案贴出来
作者: ninilee    时间: 2012-2-29 19:57
赵丽老师好像上课讲过,同位语只能给主语或者宾语一个definition。所以同位语应该不能指代整句话吧~
作者: hscryzer    时间: 2013-7-2 16:36
Hattielin87 发表于 2010-7-19 16:30
这道题好像是选B吧,前辈也不顺便把答案贴出来

同位语是GMAT考试中非常灵活的一个应用点,可以修饰整句(特别是后置情况)也可以修饰就前面的一个单词 虽然多数情况是前者;碰到简单题你可以用来秒杀,碰到难题你就错了,这是GMAT一直以来无法使用一些通俗语法点作为100%准确阶梯技巧的关键

但有a phenomenon, a tendency, a trend等等等等,完全可以指代前文一整句;一个比较有意思现象是这类次后面倾向于that来修饰,而不是分词,因为本身已经是大词了,后面要讲述内容会比较复杂,分词只会形成歧义

但一般来说,会用比较大的词来做整句修饰,一些实意名词来就近修饰,的确蛮难区分的。

回到这题As是作为的意思,这个用法很灵活,也可以做限制修饰也可以作为非限制修饰,可以指代就近也可以指代整句(如as a result of)

这句话我个人从语意上来讲,我觉得可以写(as)(a) part of a deal that will makes或者(as)(a)part of a deal to make...
至于D的话应该是purchase sth as sth to make itself而不是make it

这是我看到GMAT语法另一种意识上比较难得题目的特点,一般我们经过语法训练后比较容易从相近结构上判断出哪个对哪个错,但是这种本身和A选项逻辑意思上就发生比较大错误的选项我们反而会看不太出来
作者: 粽子小姐    时间: 2013-11-3 05:20
hscryzer 发表于 2013-7-2 16:36
同位语是GMAT考试中非常灵活的一个应用点,可以修饰整句(特别是后置情况)也可以修饰就前面的一个单词 虽 ...

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作者: YvaineDing    时间: 2014-5-18 03:39
The computer company has announced that it will purchase the color-printing division of a rival

company for $950 million, which is part of a deal that will make it the largest manufacturer in the

office color-printing market.
(A) million, which is part of a deal that will make

(B) million, a part of a deal that makes

(C) million, part of a deal making

(D) million as a part of a deal to make

(E) million as part of a deal that will make

那as在此处做什么成份呢?
作者: reachthesky    时间: 2014-7-26 17:29
Ron神认为只有抽象词作为同位语时能够修饰前面的一整个句子或者idea,而如果同位语是concrete名词的时候,只能修饰靠近的名词。这里part of a deal很明显是第二种,修饰的是前面的million dollars,而不是一整个purchase的过程。所以不同类,不正确。
相关帖子http://www.manhattangmat.com/forums/post35386.html#p35386
作者: elaineyoung    时间: 2015-8-5 15:04
mycontrol01 发表于 2009-12-19 11:14
同位语的话就是修饰主语或者宾语 这个位置并没有优先级 靠逻辑分析LZ给的题里 ABC里part/a part都是名词性 ...

翻老题,给大家提个醒:Ron对D答案的解释:if you use the infinitive "to make", then the computer company is still the subject of the sentence. therefore, in this case you have to use the reflexive pronoun: itself. as an analogy, i can't look at me in the mirror, but i can look at myself in the mirror. same deal.

http://www.manhattanprep.com/gmat/forums/the-computer-company-has-announced-that-it-will-purchase-the-t2673.html
作者: haveacigar233    时间: 2016-1-27 19:51
Mark一下!
作者: GoblinA    时间: 2016-7-22 16:05
仙蒂瑞拉 发表于 2009-12-18 00:25
The computer company has announced that it will purchase the color-printing division of a rivalcompa ...

Mark一下!               
作者: MAXFIN    时间: 2016-9-7 11:57
elaineyoung 发表于 2015-8-5 15:04
翻老题,给大家提个醒:Ron对D答案的解释:if you use the infinitive "to make", then the computer com ...

谢谢 ,这个解释可以理解为什么不选d 了。。但是 og vb 16 又解释这个选项:This sentence is a little awkward (the article a in a part is unnecessary) and says something rather different; as a part of a deal to make suggests that the deal itself includes making the company the largest manufacturer rather than its being the outcome of the deal.又晕了。。
作者: AgnesNetles    时间: 2016-10-4 11:22
elaineyoung 发表于 2015-8-5 15:04
翻老题,给大家提个醒:Ron对D答案的解释:if you use the infinitive "to make", then the computer com ...

同意!               
作者: ianwyb    时间: 2016-11-15 18:41
reachthesky 发表于 2014-7-26 17:29
Ron神认为只有抽象词作为同位语时能够修饰前面的一整个句子或者idea,而如果同位语是concrete名词的时候, ...

这是我看过的最好的解释
作者: meiyw    时间: 2016-12-24 21:20
ianwyb 发表于 2016-11-15 18:41
这是我看过的最好的解释

这是正解
作者: 御寒    时间: 2017-1-22 19:27
reachthesky 发表于 2014-7-26 17:29
Ron神认为只有抽象词作为同位语时能够修饰前面的一整个句子或者idea,而如果同位语是concrete名词的时候, ...

同意!               
作者: 御寒    时间: 2017-1-22 19:30
MAXFIN 发表于 2016-9-7 11:57
谢谢 ,这个解释可以理解为什么不选d 了。。但是 og vb 16 又解释这个选项:This sentence is a little a ...

我现在已经不看OG的解释了。。。
作者: 南枳-    时间: 2017-1-22 21:40
Mark一下!               
作者: Ginny呀    时间: 2017-3-24 16:54
想问一下这道题part或者是a part有什么影响吗 因为og里面有个选项解释说a part会很awkward
作者: LaDuDu    时间: 2017-5-28 08:54
回顾讨论一下,OG的解释写道D to make 是说deal本身make,而that will make说是一个将来式,og解释有错误,ron的回答很清晰,说D的to make的主语还是company,但是后面make it the largest 应该换为make itself the largest。所以og解释中说的as a part/as part 的区别真的是有,但是考试里不能靠这个来判断。
作者: 750狗狗狗    时间: 2017-10-8 10:42
仙蒂瑞拉 发表于 2009-12-18 00:25
The computer company has announced that it will purchase the color-printing division of a rivalcompa ...

同意!               
作者: 小崔同学    时间: 2018-2-11 11:02
elaineyoung 发表于 2015-8-5 15:04
翻老题,给大家提个醒:Ron对D答案的解释:if you use the infinitive "to make", then the computer com ...

同意!               
作者: Felicity1116    时间: 2018-4-23 10:45
Mark一下!               
作者: 猫小新    时间: 2022-10-20 09:47
借帖回复一下,之前也很疑惑这题,说一下个人的观点,希望可以给后来来查题的考友一点参考
A很明确这个million不能是deal
B、C同位语从句,a part 和part这里我记得RON说没有区别,但是!同位语从句解释的是抽象名词,并且同位语从句解释前面的意义,而这里是在说前面的作用,这个点我觉得是易于区分的
D的话参考RON 解释if you use the infinitive "to make", then the computer company is still the subject of the sentence. therefore, in this case you have to use the reflexive pronoun: itself. as an analogy, i can't look at me in the mirror, but i can look at myself in the mirror. same deal.
in choice (e), "...that will make..." shifts the role of subject to deal, so a reflexive pronoun is no longer needed. in fact, the reflexive pronoun would be absurd in this case, since a deal obviously can't make itself the largest manufacturer in the market.
就是说to do 的主语是company,company只能make itself而不是it,而我们也可以看出,明显是deal 使它怎么怎么样
E作为其一部分+定语从句则不会出现上述问题,虽然看着麻烦了一点,但语义很明确




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