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作者: weeksuper 时间: 2009-12-7 14:46
标题: Chicago Booth第一轮面了900多人
不知道会录取多少。。Anybody has any idea?

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http://forums.chicagobooth.edu/rosereport?entry=34

作者: brass20y 时间: 2009-12-7 14:52
其实今年第一轮都是这么夸张！
芝加哥第一轮录取200多吧，基本5选1
duke今年在中国不也是5选1么？ross/cornell也类似吧

作者: weeksuper 时间: 2009-12-7 14:54
chicago的yield rate是多高？60%？如果是60%的话，可能就是200/60%=333

作者: brass20y 时间: 2009-12-7 14:56
BW上有，我忘记了70%左右吧？

作者: minivicki 时间: 2009-12-7 15:11
面了这么多人啊...又一次感觉希望渺茫了...

作者: 粉色马甲 时间: 2009-12-7 15:17
今年是疯了一样

作者: aspirant2010 时间: 2009-12-7 15:26

其实今年第一轮都是这么夸张！
芝加哥第一轮录取200多吧，基本5选1
duke今年在中国不也是5选1么？ross/cornell也类似吧

-- by 会员 brass20y (2009/12/7 14:52:22)

面5选1....假设每三个申请者中选一人面试，那么最终就是15人中录一人。这个难度真不是一般的高

这个论坛上Chicago报面试的貌似不如Columbia多呀

作者: weeksuper 时间: 2009-12-7 15:34
Chicago每年大概590人，前两轮发的offer肯定更多，估计3轮的offeree比例是220:220:150。最坏的情况，yield rate是70%，那第一轮要发314个offer。所以第一轮面试的录取比例应该在33%左右

作者: weeksuper 时间: 2009-12-7 15:36

其实今年第一轮都是这么夸张！
芝加哥第一轮录取200多吧，基本5选1
duke今年在中国不也是5选1么？ross/cornell也类似吧

-- by 会员 brass20y (2009/12/7 14:52:22)

面5选1....假设每三个申请者中选一人面试，那么最终就是15人中录一人。这个难度真不是一般的高

这个论坛上Chicago报面试的貌似不如Columbia多呀

-- by 会员 aspirant2010 (2009/12/7 15:26:29)

Columbia class size is much larger

作者: wordance 时间: 2009-12-7 15:51
From what I know, Booth received 4200 applicantions for class 2008. The acceptance rate is 22% and yield 60%. With these data in hand we can do some number crunching.

Number of offers extended= 4200 * 22% = 924.
Just as a check , class size = 924 * 60% = 554, coincides with Chicago's official class size.

Round 3 typically admits least applicants, let's assume distribution of offers for the 3 rounds are 2:2:1. then round 1 we shall see 2/5*920=370 offers.
Given this year's applicant pool is very likely stronger than last year's, R1 offers might reach 400.

So that gives us a range of 37% (worst case scenario based on our assumptions: 370/1000) to 44% (best case scenario: 400/900). This roughly matches what I was told at the info session: they admit about 40% of those who were interviewed. But of course things change every year. By using last year's data, we are merely looking into the rear view mirror here.

作者: aspirant2010 时间: 2009-12-7 16:02
谢谢楼上。Chicago去年总申请人数3000多人。如果今年第一轮光面试就有900多，那么第一轮申请人数可能就超过去年的大半了

作者: weeksuper 时间: 2009-12-7 17:13
今年真是挤破头了

作者: tgif2008 时间: 2009-12-7 17:16
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作者: turbo2008 时间: 2009-12-7 17:36

From what I know, Booth received 4200 applicantions for class 2008. The acceptance rate is 22% and yield 60%. With these data in hand we can do some number crunching.

Number of offers extended= 4200 * 22% = 924.
Just as a check , class size = 924 * 60% = 554, coincides with Chicago's official class size.

Round 3 typically admits least applicants, let's assume distribution of offers for the 3 rounds are 2:2:1. then round 1 we shall see 2/5*920=370 offers.
Given this year's applicant pool is very likely stronger than last year's, R1 offers might reach 400.

So that gives us a range of 37% (worst case scenario based on our assumptions: 370/1000) to 44% (best case scenario: 400/900). This roughly matches what I was told at the info session: they admit about 40% of those who were interviewed. But of course things change every year. By using last year's data, we are merely looking into the rear view mirror here.

-- by 会员 wordance (2009/12/7 15:51:14)

wordance ... overall your logic makes sense. The only thing I would change is the assumption about distribution of accepted applicants by round. From what I have heard (half-insider) most b-schools accept very few applicants in R3. R1 + R2 account for over 90 percent of the offers.

Assuming class size of 580, and assuming the yield rate is 70% would result in 829 offers being made.

Now, let's assume the distribution of offers for the 3 rounds are 10:9:2 (48%, 43%, 10%). Booth should extend 395 offers in R1 which results in 44% acceptance rate for those who received an interview in R1.

作者: wordance 时间: 2009-12-7 17:45

-- by 会员 wordance (2009/12/7 15:51:14)

-- by 会员 turbo2008 (2009/12/7 17:36:56)

thanks for the info on R3 acceptance rates. That's what i suspected but never confirmed on. As a R1 applicant i certainly hope they admit more ppl in R1. so this is definitely good news!

also on the yield rate, I remember reading from some report on chicago booth quoting a 60% rate, not sure where you got 70% rate from but this doesn't matter as we are all looking at historical data and this year's outcome can be drastically different.

作者: weeksuper 时间: 2009-12-7 18:06
i'm not sure whether it's discouraging or not. but i think the adcom may issue less offers and put more people on the waitlist in R1 this year than they did in previous years.

reason 1: given this year's heated competition, the adcom may expect a much higher yield rate this year. if that's the case, the adcom will not have the risk of exceeding the class limits. if it's lower than expected, they will have adequate ppl in the waitlist.

reason 2: given the high quality of R1 applicants this year and improving economy conditions, the adcom may expect that R2 applicants' quality may not be as good as R1's in this year. so the adcom may want to leave more ppl in the waitlist in order to benchmark with R2 applicants. therefore, it will be very unfortunate for R1 applicants if R2 pool is as strong as in R1.

well, hopefully what i'm thinking about is wrong. just a little bit anxious. anyway, i have done my best. there would be no regret for me for any kind of decision from Chicago Booth.

作者: turbo2008 时间: 2009-12-7 18:15
Just to make everyone happy (especially myself), lets look at the best case scenario:
Number of offers extended= 4200 * 22% = 924.
Assuming the distribution of offers for the 3 rounds are 10:9:2 (48%, 43%, 10%).
There will be 440 offers extended in R1. Acceptance rate of 49% for those who interviewed in R1!

作者: zoeicy 时间: 2009-12-8 11:00
Uhhh... Guess I should avoid reading discussions like this ... feeling so anxious now...

作者: zhupp 时间: 2009-12-9 00:57
Just to make your guys happier,

Here is the stats for class 2009. Total applicants is 3843 http://www.businessweek.com/bschools/rankings/full_time_mba_profiles/chicago.html

They didn't list their yield rate here as other schools did. But from what I heard the yield rate of booth is 55%-60%.

I agree with weeksuper, they probably will waitlist more people in R1 than give out all 440 offers. I wouldn't expect this year will be more competitive than last year, so I guess R2 will be better and some people will get off WL then.

No matter what, good luck to everyone!!!

作者: newborn2009 时间: 2009-12-9 01:50
hehe, caught you here. I got your voice msg late Sunday night...

I also heard the yield rate is roughly 50-60%. A 2003 graduate even told me ~60% acceptance rate after interview, and he got in rd3 without an interview. I think the number varies year by year. Only Rose knows these all.

Just to make your guys happier,

Here is the stats for class 2009. Total applicants is 3843 http://www.businessweek.com/bschools/rankings/full_time_mba_profiles/chicago.html

They didn't list their yield rate here as other schools did. But from what I heard the yield rate of booth is 55%-60%.

I agree with weeksuper, they probably will waitlist more people in R1 than give out all 440 offers. I wouldn't expect this year will be more competitive than last year, so I guess R2 will be better and some people will get off WL then.

No matter what, good luck to everyone!!!

-- by 会员 zhupp (2009/12/9 0:57:13)

作者: zhupp 时间: 2009-12-9 02:16
You are right. So i am fully prepared for any result coming out next week. We all should forget about it after interview. Let the god ( Maybe Rose at this time) do his own job.

作者: thecow10000 时间: 2009-12-9 07:19
10% for R3 sounds right It's consistent with many schools. However, Chicago adcom did mention that they receive more applicants for R2... therefore I would peg the % at R1 42%, R2 48%, R3 10%.

Chicago's yield is usually not as high as 70%. It usually top at 65% (but this year is tougher so maybe they will expect a higher yield). Maybe we can take something like 2/3 for our calculation sake.

I am pretty confident that last year's enrolled is 591 = 4200 * 22% * 64%.
To be conservative, lets expect 5% growth in applicants to 4400 * 42% for R1 * 50% interviewed = 920 (Rose: "over 900")
If we conservatively expect enrollment of 590 again divide higher yield of 2/3 and * 42% = 372 accepted.
372/920 = 41.3333% (acceptance of those who have been interviewed).

Just my 2 cents.

Just to make everyone happy (especially myself), lets look at the best case scenario:
Number of offers extended= 4200 * 22% = 924.
Assuming the distribution of offers for the 3 rounds are 10:9:2 (48%, 43%, 10%).
There will be 440 offers extended in R1. Acceptance rate of 49% for those who interviewed in R1!

-- by 会员 turbo2008 (2009/12/7 18:15:31)

作者: turbo2008 时间: 2009-12-9 10:49
Disclaimer: I know that calculating acceptance rate and making a ton of assumptions is pointless but it is FUN and a great way to waste time … lol

Thecow10000 – In my best case scenario, I tried to remove as many assumptions as possible. That is why I tried to get around the yield %.

Frankly, in the end the decision to each one of us is binary (yes, no). Lets hope that a significant number of chasedreamers get in.

10% for R3 sounds right It's consistent with many schools. However, Chicago adcom did mention that they receive more applicants for R2... therefore I would peg the % at R1 42%, R2 48%, R3 10%.

Chicago's yield is usually not as high as 70%. It usually top at 65% (but this year is tougher so maybe they will expect a higher yield). Maybe we can take something like 2/3 for our calculation sake.

I am pretty confident that last year's enrolled is 591 = 4200 * 22% * 64%.
To be conservative, lets expect 5% growth in applicants to 4400 * 42% for R1 * 50% interviewed = 920 (Rose: "over 900")
If we conservatively expect enrollment of 590 again divide higher yield of 2/3 and * 42% = 372 accepted.
372/920 = 41.3333% (acceptance of those who have been interviewed).

Just my 2 cents.

-- by 会员 turbo2008 (2009/12/7 18:15:31)

-- by 会员 thecow10000 (2009/12/9 7:19:09)

作者: agnesRED 时间: 2009-12-9 11:31
hope we can get a Y or N but there's also another possible result on 16 Dec, which is waiting list.....

作者: turbo2008 时间: 2009-12-9 11:46
From what I have heard, the waiting list in Chicago Booth does not move at all. Waiting list is basicially a long ding.

作者: agnesRED 时间: 2009-12-9 11:48
that's good to hear~ thanks!

作者: thecow10000 时间: 2009-12-9 13:46
turbo2008 - can't agree more - hope many people from this site get in.

Somehow I get the feeling that people who make these calculations fall into the Chicago stereotype, maybe that's a sign for good fit?

作者: wordance 时间: 2009-12-9 15:06

turbo2008 - can't agree more - hope many people from this site get in.

Somehow I get the feeling that people who make these calculations fall into the Chicago stereotype, maybe that's a sign for good fit?

-- by 会员 thecow10000 (2009/12/9 13:46:21)

haha totally agree. if chicago adcom read this post, everyone would have been offered.

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