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作者: Jessielynn 时间: 2009-10-15 22:48
标题: [求助]OG12-50 定语从句的关系代词that

(A) that the economy will avoid the recession that many had feared earlier in the year and instead come

(B) in the economy to avoid the recession, what many feared earlier in the year, rather to come

(D) in the economy to avoid the recession many were fearing earlier in the year, and rather to come

(E) that the economy will avoid the recession that was feared earlier this year by many, with it instead coming

答案是A我没选错，我问的是OG关于D的解释：the
recession must be followed by that

这里many were fearing应该是做定语从句的，那么recession在定语从句里是处于宾语的位置，那that应该可以省略啊，为什么说不能省呢？（且不管many were fearing这个表述是不对的。。。）

求解！谢谢~~

作者: tibet 时间: 2009-10-15 23:20

我觉得应该可以省，可能怕歧义吧。

OG的解释我也没当真理看。错的地方都是too wordy，正确的是idiom

作者: Jessielynn 时间: 2009-10-15 23:25
嗯。。。我也觉得OG的解释有时候很笼统。。。动不动就是wordy and awkward，有蒙混过关的嫌疑~

作者: tibet 时间: 2009-10-15 23:42

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作者: 红尘道士 时间: 2009-12-3 19:58

50. According to some analysts, the gains in the stock market reflect growing confidence that the economy will avoid the recession that many had feared earlier in the year and instead come in for a “soft landing,” followed by a gradual increase in business activity.
(A) that the economy will avoid the recession that many had feared earlier in the year and instead come

(B) in the economy to avoid the recession, what many feared earlier in the year, rather to come

(C) in the economy’s ability to avoid the recession, something earlier in the year many had feared, and instead to come

(D) in the economy to avoid the recession many were fearing earlier in the year, and rather to come

(E) that the economy will avoid the recession that was feared earlier this year by many, with it instead coming
答案是A我没选错，我问的是OG关于D的解释：the
recession must be followed by that

这里many were fearing应该是做定语从句的，那么recession在定语从句里是处于宾语的位置，那that应该可以省略啊，为什么说不能省呢？（且不管many were fearing这个表述是不对的。。。）
求解！谢谢~~

-- by 会员 Jessielynn (2009/10/15 22:48:00)

我感觉that many were fearing 引导的是同位语从句，和confidence that 一样都是同位语从句

作者: 红尘道士 时间: 2009-12-3 20:02
浅谈同位语从句和定语从句的区别

在教学中，同位语从句和定语从句是个难点。为了帮助老师和同学们解决这个难点，现就同位语从句和定语从句的区别谈谈自己的一点看法。同位语从句和定语从句都放在被修饰词的后边，从形式上来看，它们十分相似。从以下几个方面来谈它们的区别。
1、从句所修饰词的不同。同位语从句所修饰词通常是少数一些表示抽象意义的名词，如belief , doubt , fact , hope , idea , news , possibility , thought , order , suggestion , wish , answer , information , conclusion , decision , discovery , knowledge , law , opinion , problem , promise , proof , question , report , truth , risk 等。定语从句的先行词可以指人、物等。例如：
He has told us a fact that drinking too much does harm to our health.他又告诉我们一个事实，过渡饮酒对健康有害。(同位语从句)
We have no idea that her mother was a professor ten years ago. . 我们不知道她的母亲十年前是个教授。(同位语从句)
This is the book that I bought yesterday. 这是我昨天买的那本书。（定语从句）
I will never forget the day when I joined the Party. 我将永远不会忘记我入党的那一天。（定语从句）
2. 连接词的作用不同。连接同位语从句的that只起连接作用，不在从句中担任任何句子成分。whether 和 how 可以引导同位语从句，但不能引导定语从句。关系代词和关系副词除了连接从句的作用外，还在定语从句中充当一定的句子成分，如主语、宾语、定语、表语等。引导定语从句的连接词是关系词，常见的关系代词和关系副词有that , which , who , whose , whom , when , where , why , as，than, but 等。
The news that he wants to get is whether he will be sent to the countryside.他所想得到的消息是他是否将被派往农村。(定语从句，关系代词that作从句get的宾语。)
Do you have a doubt whether she will be dismissed from school? 你怀疑她是否能被学校开除吗？(同位语从句)
I have no idea how his parents were sad on hearing that their son was killed in the earthquake. 我不知道他的父母一听到他在地震中阵亡是多么悲伤！(同位语从句)
3. 从句作用的不同。定语从句具有形容词或副词的特点，对先行词起修饰、限定作用，描述先行词的性质或特征，与先行词之间是所属关系。同位语从句具有名词的特点，对中心词作进一步补充解释，是中心词的具体内容。例如：
The man that you saw just now is my bother. 你刚才看到的那个人是我的弟弟。(定语从句)
The suggestion that the meeting be put off proved right.推迟会议的建议证明是正确得。（同位语从句）
The suggestion that he had made is that the meeting be put off. 他提出的建议推迟会议。（定语从句）
4. 正确理解和使用同位语从句，还应注意以下几点：
A.分隔同位语从句：有时同位语从句与其先行词被其它成分分隔开来，这种分隔主要出于修辞原因，即为了保持句子结构平衡，避免头重脚轻。
The whole truth came out at last that he was a wolf in sheep‘s clothing . 真相终于大白了，他原来是只披着羊皮的狼。
An order has come from Beijing that these thieves will be sentenced to death .
B.在某些名词后的同位语从句中，其谓语动词应用虚拟语气形式：（should） + 动词原形。常见的名词有advice , idea , order , demand , plan , proposal , suggestion , request 等。例如：
The suggestion that a new bridge (should) be built was accepted . 采纳了在这里修建一座新桥的建议。
C.同位语从句的先行词往往没有复数形式。例如：
他要来教我们英语的消息昨天我就听说了。
（正）The message that he would teach us English reached me yesterday .
（误）The messages that he would teach us English reached me yesterday .

作者: 红尘道士 时间: 2009-12-3 20:29
and instead come in 做什么成分

作者: doomrobin 时间: 2009-12-3 22:28

浅谈同位语从句和定语从句的区别
在教学中，同位语从句和定语从句是个难点。为了帮助老师和同学们解决这个难点，现就同位语从句和定语从句的区别谈谈自己的一点看法。同位语从句和定语从句都放在被修饰词的后边，从形式上来看，它们十分相似。从以下几个方面来谈它们的区别。
1、从句所修饰词的不同。同位语从句所修饰词通常是少数一些表示抽象意义的名词，如belief , doubt , fact , hope , idea , news , possibility , thought , order , suggestion , wish , answer , information , conclusion , decision , discovery , knowledge , law , opinion , problem , promise , proof , question , report , truth , risk 等。定语从句的先行词可以指人、物等。例如：
He has told us a fact that drinking too much does harm to our health.他又告诉我们一个事实，过渡饮酒对健康有害。(同位语从句)
We have no idea that her mother was a professor ten years ago. . 我们不知道她的母亲十年前是个教授。(同位语从句)
This is the book that I bought yesterday. 这是我昨天买的那本书。（定语从句）
I will never forget the day when I joined the Party. 我将永远不会忘记我入党的那一天。（定语从句）
2. 连接词的作用不同。连接同位语从句的that只起连接作用，不在从句中担任任何句子成分。whether 和 how 可以引导同位语从句，但不能引导定语从句。关系代词和关系副词除了连接从句的作用外，还在定语从句中充当一定的句子成分，如主语、宾语、定语、表语等。引导定语从句的连接词是关系词，常见的关系代词和关系副词有that , which , who , whose , whom , when , where , why , as，than, but 等。
The news that he wants to get is whether he will be sent to the countryside.他所想得到的消息是他是否将被派往农村。(定语从句，关系代词that作从句get的宾语。)
Do you have a doubt whether she will be dismissed from school? 你怀疑她是否能被学校开除吗？(同位语从句)
I have no idea how his parents were sad on hearing that their son was killed in the earthquake. 我不知道他的父母一听到他在地震中阵亡是多么悲伤！(同位语从句)
3. 从句作用的不同。定语从句具有形容词或副词的特点，对先行词起修饰、限定作用，描述先行词的性质或特征，与先行词之间是所属关系。同位语从句具有名词的特点，对中心词作进一步补充解释，是中心词的具体内容。例如：
The man that you saw just now is my bother. 你刚才看到的那个人是我的弟弟。(定语从句)
The suggestion that the meeting be put off proved right.推迟会议的建议证明是正确得。（同位语从句）
The suggestion that he had made is that the meeting be put off. 他提出的建议推迟会议。（定语从句）
4. 正确理解和使用同位语从句，还应注意以下几点：
A.分隔同位语从句：有时同位语从句与其先行词被其它成分分隔开来，这种分隔主要出于修辞原因，即为了保持句子结构平衡，避免头重脚轻。
The whole truth came out at last that he was a wolf in sheep‘s clothing . 真相终于大白了，他原来是只披着羊皮的狼。
An order has come from Beijing that these thieves will be sentenced to death .
B.在某些名词后的同位语从句中，其谓语动词应用虚拟语气形式：（should） + 动词原形。常见的名词有advice , idea , order , demand , plan , proposal , suggestion , request 等。例如：
The suggestion that a new bridge (should) be built was accepted . 采纳了在这里修建一座新桥的建议。
C.同位语从句的先行词往往没有复数形式。例如：
他要来教我们英语的消息昨天我就听说了。
（正）The message that he would teach us English reached me yesterday .
（误）The messages that he would teach us English reached me yesterday .

-- by 会员红尘道士 (2009/12/3 20:02:01)

感谢红尘道士！写的很详细~

作者: 红尘道士 时间: 2009-12-5 05:23
recession that many had feared earlier in the year and instead come in for a “soft landing,” followed by a gradual increase in business activity.
衰退that很多人年初害怕and却来了软着陆，被逐步增加的商业活动跟随
instead come in 的主语是什么？
followed by a gradual increase in business activity.修饰的又是谁？

作者: rose86511 时间: 2010-1-28 11:20

浅谈同位语从句和定语从句的区别

3. 从句作用的不同。定语从句具有形容词或副词的特点，对先行词起修饰、限定作用，描述先行词的性质或特征，与先行词之间是所属关系。同位语从句具有名词的特点，对中心词作进一步补充解释，是中心词的具体内容。例如：
The man that you saw just now is my bother. 你刚才看到的那个人是我的弟弟。(定语从句)
The suggestion that the meeting be put off proved right.推迟会议的建议证明是正确得。（同位语从句）
The suggestion that he had made is that the meeting be put off. 他提出的建议推迟会议。（定语从句）

-- by 会员红尘道士 (2009/12/3 20:02:01)

从这一点看，OG12-50这道题中recession后接的应该是定语从句，而不是同位语从句，因为从句部分并没有解释这种recession是什么，而是讲人们对recession的担忧，是一种修饰。

即使是同位语从句，请问同位语从句中that不能省略吗？

抛开D选项其他错误的地方，还是不明白为什么“the recession must be followed by that” ?

恳请牛牛们解答~~~~~~

作者: PebbleJ 时间: 2010-2-8 15:16
同问啊！！！还有啊，为什么是had feared，用过去完成时？

作者: zzwgyyy 时间: 2010-2-9 00:56
关注下

作者: eye0416 时间: 2010-2-21 21:35

recession that many had feared earlier in the year and instead come in for a “soft landing,” followed by a gradual increase in business activity.
衰退that很多人年初害怕and却来了软着陆，被逐步增加的商业活动跟随
instead come in 的主语是什么？
followed by a gradual increase in business activity.修饰的又是谁？

-- by 会员红尘道士 (2009/12/5 5:23:27)

修饰的对象应该是the gains in the stock market。就是说股市的增长，以及后来逐渐增多的商业活动。这里是分词词组修饰主语。

作者: hetaotao7 时间: 2010-2-23 13:16
the economy will avoid the recession that many had feared earlier in the year and instead come in for a “soft landing,” followed by a gradual increase in business activity. 两个平行的定语从句共同修饰recession, recession在前一个从句中做宾语，that可以省略；但是，recession在后一个宾语从句中做主语不能省略。所以that不能省略

作者: beijin111 时间: 2010-2-27 22:46
赞13楼解释
后一个也是定从吧

作者: cindytim 时间: 2010-3-19 01:31

同问啊！！！还有啊，为什么是had feared，用过去完成时？

-- by 会员 PebbleJ (2010/2/8 15:16:15)

害怕发生在过去且完成

作者: slamshady 时间: 2010-3-22 21:25

the economy will avoid the recession that many had feared earlier in the year and instead come in for a “soft landing,” followed by a gradual increase in business activity. 两个平行的定语从句共同修饰recession, recession在前一个从句中做宾语，that可以省略；但是，recession在后一个宾语从句中做主语不能省略。所以that不能省略

-- by 会员 hetaotao7 (2010/2/23 13:16:11)

OG上写了：“its subject, economy, is followed by two parallel verbs, will avoid and (will understood) come. Instead before the second verb properly indicates contrast.”所以后面一个从句修饰的不是recession，而是economy。。。。但还是不理解that为什么不能省略啊。。。

作者: slamshady 时间: 2010-3-22 21:34
that不可省略的情况：

1.两个或两个以上由that引导的宾语从句，只能省略第1各that，其它的不能省略。

2. 介词后的that引导的宾语从句不可省略。

3. that宾语从句置于句首时，不可省略

that the economy will avoid the recession that many had feared earlier in the year and instead come
这句句子是宾语从句里面套定于从句，所以后面的那个that不能省。。。。

作者: 1r1r1r 时间: 2010-3-22 22:47

-- by 会员红尘道士 (2009/12/5 5:23:27)

我觉得是economy。and 后省略了will.
followed...修饰soft landing

作者: 1r1r1r 时间: 2010-3-22 22:50

50. According to some analysts, the gains in the stock market reflect growing confidence that the economy will avoid the recession that many had feared earlier in the year and instead come in for a “soft landing,” followed by a gradual increase in business activity.
(A) that the economy will avoid the recession that many had feared earlier in the year and instead come(B) in the economy to avoid the recession, what many feared earlier in the year, rather to come(C) in the economy’s ability to avoid the recession, something earlier in the year many had feared, and instead to come(D) in the economy to avoid the recession many were fearing earlier in the year, and rather to come(E) that the economy will avoid the recession that was feared earlier this year by many, with it instead coming答案是A我没选错，我问的是OG关于D的解释：the
recession must be followed by that 这里many were fearing应该是做定语从句的，那么recession在定语从句里是处于宾语的位置，那that应该可以省略啊，为什么说不能省呢？（且不管many were fearing这个表述是不对的。。。）求解！谢谢~~

-- by 会员 Jessielynn (2009/10/15 22:48:00)

按我们的以前受到的英语教育是可以省略的，但通过这个解释这是不是暗示GMAC认为在正式书面语中即使名词在定语中做宾语，关系代词也是不能省略的

作者: slamshady 时间: 2010-3-22 23:40

50. According to some analysts, the gains in the stock market reflect growing confidence that the economy will avoid the recession that many had feared earlier in the year and instead come in for a “soft landing,” followed by a gradual increase in business activity.
(A) that the economy will avoid the recession that many had feared earlier in the year and instead come(B) in the economy to avoid the recession, what many feared earlier in the year, rather to come(C) in the economy’s ability to avoid the recession, something earlier in the year many had feared, and instead to come(D) in the economy to avoid the recession many were fearing earlier in the year, and rather to come(E) that the economy will avoid the recession that was feared earlier this year by many, with it instead coming答案是A我没选错，我问的是OG关于D的解释：the
recession must be followed by that 这里many were fearing应该是做定语从句的，那么recession在定语从句里是处于宾语的位置，那that应该可以省略啊，为什么说不能省呢？（且不管many were fearing这个表述是不对的。。。）求解！谢谢~~

-- by 会员 Jessielynn (2009/10/15 22:48:00)

按我们的以前受到的英语教育是可以省略的，但通过这个解释这是不是暗示GMAC认为在正式书面语中即使名词在定语中做宾语，关系代词也是不能省略的

-- by 会员 1r1r1r (2010/3/22 22:50:16)

通常是可以省的，比如这道题
267.During the nineteenth century Emily Eden and Fanny Parks journeyed throughout India, sketching and keeping journals forming the basis of news reports about the princely states where they had visited.
(A) forming the basis of news reports about the princely states where they had
(B) that were forming the basis of news reports about the princely states
(C) to form the basis of news reports about the princely states which they have
(D) which had formed the basis of news reports about the princely states where they had（E）
(E) that formed the basis of news reports about the princely states they

但是如果是宾语从句里面放一个定语从句的话就不行了。。。

作者: gracezz 时间: 2010-3-30 23:09
同意13楼，我只是在纠结为啥还用了过去完成时呢。。。。。

作者: gracezz 时间: 2010-3-30 23:09
不过就忠于原文的理解来看，原文里面就用了过去完成时。

作者: imagelan 时间: 2010-6-1 21:50
纠结啊，愈看愈糊涂了

作者: Jessielynn 时间: 2010-8-15 11:05

that不可省略的情况：

1.两个或两个以上由that引导的宾语从句，只能省略第1各that，其它的不能省略。

2. 介词后的that引导的宾语从句不可省略。

3. that宾语从句置于句首时，不可省略

that the economy will avoid the recession that many had feared earlier in the year and instead come
这句句子是宾语从句里面套定于从句，所以后面的那个that不能省。。。。

-- by 会员 slamshady (2010/3/22 21:34:46)

到目前为止，这个是我觉得最有可能的理由，谢谢slamshady~

还有，我不同意上面所说的这个recession后面跟的是同位语从句，我还是觉得是定语从句。后面的many had feared earlier in the year 不是解释recession的内容的，而是起到修饰recession的作用，是什么样的recession，是人们以前所担心会到来的recession，而不是“经济或金融或anything会怎样萧条怎样崩溃”的recession

欢迎继续讨论~

作者: Jessielynn 时间: 2010-8-15 11:05

-- by 会员 slamshady (2010/3/22 21:34:46)

作者: Jessielynn 时间: 2010-8-15 11:05

-- by 会员 slamshady (2010/3/22 21:34:46)

作者: ccccc123456 时间: 2013-2-17 11:36
谢谢

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