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作者: Booth2011 时间: 2009-9-29 13:27
标题: Chicago Booth 2011 Taking Questions

Dear CDers,

We are Chicago Booth students, Class of 2011. We are here to help you learn more about Chicago Booth and support you with application advices. If you have any questions about Chicago Booth, you are more than welcome to post here. We have form a small team with diverse background from banking, consulting, hedge fund and corporate and we will actively share our application experience with you.

We highly suggest that you do your homework first. You can browse the following sites to find the basics:

General Information: http://www.chicagobooth.edu/fulltime/

Application Process: http://www.chicagobooth.edu/fulltime/admissions/apply.aspx

Admission Blog: http://blogs.chicagobooth.edu/rosereport

Chicago Booth 2010 Q&A: http://forum.chasedream.com/dispbbs.asp?boardID=13&ID=358603&page=1

Let's get started!

Booth Basics: You might or might not know

‒ Famous for the largest number of Nobel Laureate among all business schools

‒ Best faculty among all business schools

‒ Better career services than most peer schools, resulting in one of the highest employment rate last year (Class of 2009)

‒ Strong upward momentum since Ted Snyder served as dean in 2001

Current Ranking of Full Time MBA Program of Chicago Booth

‒ Business Week 2008: #1

‒ US News 2009: #5

‒ WSJ 2007: #9

‒ Forbes 2009: #4

‒ EIU 2008: #3

‒ Financial Times 2009: #11

Chicago Booth Strengths Highlight

Finance Program – Booth is well-known for its finance program, with the largest and most diversified finance curriculum. Six Nobel laureates have taught in Chicago’s program since the early 1980s. In addition to a standard finance concentration, the school also offers the quantitatively rigorous Analytic Finance concentration. Around 50% of Chicago GSB graduates accepted jobs in the financial services industry. Being a Booth graduates gives you a well recognized competitive edges in term of solid finance knowledge and strong empirical skills set.

Flexible Curriculum – The flexible structure of the Booth’s required curriculum sets the school apart from its peers. It is especially unique in the sense that the faculty are willing to waive your pre-requisite class, without requiring an exempt test, as long as you show good knowledge or equivalent working experience in that subject.

$300 million Naming Gift - The $300 million capitals injected into Chicago Booth will bring tremendous momentum to develop and promote the school. Chicago Booth is actively strengthening many other disciplines and has more presence in global media to promote the school’s reputation. The Booth donation shows commitment to provide strong programs in disciplines beyond finance. For example, students interested in marketing may apply for a two year $50,000 Marketing Fellowship. The students interested in international business may pursue the specialized International MBA degree.

Best Student Service and Cohesive Community - From admission service to career service, Chicago booth has an outstanding student-service team that is both professional and supportive. There are plenty of resources on the school websites, a very responsive community, and advisory service on every step during the admission process. It is a public consensus that Chicago Booth community encourages students to challenges each other but holds a much collaborative environment than most other schools.

Class Profile - 2011

Out of the 593 Booth students in Class 2011, about 5% are from Greater China. According to the school, 19 are from mainland China (China passport holders), plus 7 from Taiwan and 2 from Hong Kong. More Chinese ethnic students from US, Canada and Australia are admitted as well.

Almost 3/4 of students from Greater China have either finance (IB, IM, hedge fund) or consulting background, a little different from the profile of last year. The others are from various industries, including accounting, consumer goods, high-tech and media, etc.

About 40% students from Greater China are female.

Misconception of Chicago Booth

Chicago Booth is a finance school.

Chicago Booth offers one of the best finance programs in the world (peer school: only Wharton?). However, Chicago Booth is NOT a finance school. For example, Entrepreneurship concentration is one of the favorite among students. Chicago Booth is also strong in marketing, but more data-driven or behavioral-related, different from and superior to Kellogg's approach as more marketing/consumer data become available. Chicago Booth graduate are actually quite diversified in terms of industries and functions.

Booth students are a bit nerdy and lack of teamwork.

Totally wrong. Booth students have diverse background and colorful characteristics. Teamwork is what we focused on during the first mandatory course, LEAD. It's continuously reinforced through daily course works and activities. We have a vibrant and fun community similar to those so-called party schools (you name it) .

Course load is too heavy in Booth.

Chicago Booth’s curriculum is academically rigorous. However, classes are designed to challenge you by CHOICE. The faculty's goal is to inspire your passion and interest, not to fail you out of school. Grade Non-Disclosure policy gives you the possibility to scale your academic commitment in favor of Recruiting/Social (and vice versa). Booth has the most flexible curriculum among peer schools. You can leverage that to balance your course works and social activities.

About the Application

The following is a good approach for a standard candidate. Booth looks for candidates who can fully take advantage of its flexible program. Therefore it looks for candidates who:

1. Knows where he/she comes from and where he/she wants to go

Chicago Booth's program is packed with content (you get your tuition worth, trust me). The more you know about your strength/weakness in career development, the better you can leverage all the resources offered to you. While you will have time to figure out your passion during an MBA, the earlier you can focus on one or two paths, the better. Essay I is designed to help you with that prior to coming to business school.

2. Self-Aware

Booth's program will constantly challenge the students with questions that don't have clear cut answers. Therefore, it prefers candidate who can find answer based on what works best for himself/herself. In Essay II, always highlight your thought process and the reasons for your action. Setting up the right context is important but try to minimize the amount of text devoted to describing situation because Admin cares more about your reaction and your thoughts.

You might mention "with LEAD and further mentorship of second year Facilitators, you can continue to improve your awareness“(as a plug to show your interest of the school and your humble self).

3. Thoughtful/Structured Thinkers

This is obvious looking at Essay III. By giving the applicant a blank four page presentation, Booth challenging the candidate's ability to produce a structured and coherent profile. It's my personal preference to have a theme that ties one's story together instead of 4 complete independent slides. Originality is nice but structure is more important.

Interview - Alumni vs. School

A trip to campus for interview would be nice but not necessary. Chicago Alums are the nicest based our empirical experience; they are genuinely interested in you and want to determine whether you have well-thought out reasons for MBA and reasonable post-MBA plan. You should be ready to describe your understanding of Booth's culture and the benefit of the program.

Wish you all good luck and see you in Harper Center soon!

作者: Booth2011 时间: 2009-9-29 13:46
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作者: michaelchenma 时间: 2009-9-29 13:55
How do you guys come up with $88,000 a year to pay for tuition and living expense?

作者: wordance 时间: 2009-9-29 14:11

有关GPA的一个问题，我的学校是给ABCD的，但是它又没有个转换成GPA的系统。

这样的话我计算GPA应该根据什么SCALE来CONVERT? CHICAGO自己有没有一个GUIDELINE? 比如说A+ 算 4.33分还是4 分？

另外，学校会不会自己计算gpa？如果会，而且因为学校用的methodology和我不同而有出入的话，我有没有机会解释？

谢谢。

作者: soniashi 时间: 2009-9-29 22:28

Support !

作者: cannedpineapple 时间: 2009-9-30 05:41
Hi y'all,

This year Wharton had one of our biggest classes ever, with 862
enrolled students (an increase of about 4.5%). I saw that Stanford also
had a similar increase in students ( about 4%, from 370 to 385) and so
did HBS (also about 4% 900 to 937). I couldn't find the stats for
Booth, I wonder if this is a similar trend?

作者: Booth2011 时间: 2009-9-30 14:48
$88000 is too luxury, dude... I think most student can make it with $80, 000 or lower.

All international student can secure a non-cosigner loan for Booth this year. Because the market was still weak in spring, the loan program this year had a cap of $70, 000. But the gap is not that formidable, right? Hope the loan program for class 2012 will be better.

Besides the non-cosigner loan, we do have students who got loans from bank in mainland.

作者: Booth2011 时间: 2009-9-30 14:51
如果没有记错的话，包括Booth在内的很多商学院都不鼓励大家去“翻译”GPA分数。你可以直接提交英文的成绩单。如果一定要折算，你可以参考一下北大清华的计算方法。

作者: thecow10000 时间: 2009-9-30 22:00

On a relative basis, I heard that Booth is more of a # school than some of the other top ones. I heard this from 2 friends who were accepted into multiple schools (attended information sessions/met alum, interview, their research) that they believe at Booth GMAT+GPA > Essay+Recommendation. However, HBS alum indicate that Essay+Recommendation weigh more than GPA+GMAT... and Booth only asks for 2 essays.

I know all parts of the application are important. Please share your thoughts. Thanks.

作者: snj2009 时间: 2009-10-1 21:26

无意中看到CHICAGO 的MBA FINANCE课程安排比其他的难，

而且好多大牛都是现在CHICAGO 读了个MBA 再读的PH.D

作者: beckwang1983 时间: 2009-10-2 01:48
楼主能不能介绍一下除了finance和consulting以外录取者的行业情况？包括工作年限等。向在宝洁这样的公司工作申请booth会有什么优势吗？

作者: Booth2011 时间: 2009-10-2 11:24

To thecow10000,

Thank you for your question. This is hot topic and hope the answer can help.

I think total package is the key rather then piece by piece elements. We have people below 720 and denied people over 760, and it happen in most top schools.

Application is about how you can make yourself distinguished. Good GPA and GMAT help you stand out definitely, however, if you don't have, you need to demonstrate in your essays and recommendation. On the other hand, those elements are your supporting items to help you be unique, allocating and combination is the key, just like poker game.

Btw, Chicago required two essays and one slide show this year. The slide show is the most interesting one because you can use any format to show yourself. That's the freedom in Chicago!

作者: thecow10000 时间: 2009-10-2 11:30
Thank you. I can't agree more, the slide show is an interesting idea.

作者: Booth2011 时间: 2009-10-2 11:36

To snj2009,

芝加哥教学最大的特点就是，课程都是flexible的。用通俗的话说：难，还是易，完全取决于你自己的选择。

比如，如果你的经济学background很强，完全可以选择诺贝尔教授的课。当然，也可以选择去读PHD：）

也有人以后的方向是做Mkting，可能不需要精深的FA知识，就可以选择最简单的FA课程。

芝加哥的学习是自由的，但是同学们都经常奋战到凌晨，你很少听到怨言，因为都是自己的选择。

作者: thecow10000 时间: 2009-10-2 11:41
I've been hearing that the credit crunch has caused many finance professionals to apply for MBA (caused by more layoffs and more career advancements in finance). Do you know if this year Booth's overall enrollment is up from last year? Did they take more or similar amount of finance people from previous years? Thanks.

作者: Booth2011 时间: 2009-10-2 11:52

To beckwang198,

今年非FA和Consulting的同学占了25%，从往年的数据来看，应该是20%-30%左右。基本上都是大的外企公司背景并且从业时间在4年以上，前几届也有校友是国内大型国企的，但占比不是非常高。

芝加哥每年都有招宝洁背景的同学。从申请上来说，著名的外企会让你更快的获得信任和更容易的沟通你的经历，因为你描述的工作经验和职位和美国的描述是一样的。但申请是一个让你如何描述自己与众不同的过程，仅仅有大型外企的背景是不够的，更重要的是你做了什么事情和这些事情告诉给别人你是如何的优秀，所以发掘自己的经历会更加重要。

你可以找到芝加哥的宝洁同事具体了解，他们应该可以描述的更加具体。

Hope can help you!

作者: dy_hong 时间: 2009-10-2 12:13

以下是引用Booth2011在2009/9/30 14:48:00的发言：
$88000 is too luxury, dude... I think most student can make it with $80, 000 or lower.

All international student can secure a non-cosigner loan for Booth this year. Because the market was still weak in spring, the loan program this year had a cap of $70, 000. But the gap is not that formidable, right? Hope the loan program for class 2012 will be better.

Besides the non-cosigner loan, we do have students who got loans from bank in mainland.

Below is some data you can refer to:

Tuition: 50K
Insurance: 2K
Apartment: 12K (assuming you are living in a good-enough studio or sharing 2-bed room with others)
Food + Basic social: 6K
Others (incl. books, phone bill, internet, gym, student group, etc): 5K

In total it is around 75K per year.

作者: Booth2011 时间: 2009-10-2 13:00
To thecow10000

Booth, like most top business school, seeks diversity in its class. While the number of applicant with finance background certainly has increased due to financial crisis, the percent of admitted students with finance background (PE, VC, IM and IB) have remained near historical level. In my cohort of 60, there are 6 people from finance background, so 10%. That has not deviated significantly from past admission ratios. Total enrollment did increase compared to past years to a total of 593.

作者: beckwang1983 时间: 2009-10-2 21:32

以下是引用Booth2011在2009/10/2 11:52:00的发言：

To beckwang198,

你可以找到芝加哥的宝洁同事具体了解，他们应该可以描述的更加具体。

Hope can help you!

非常感谢。我在中国宝洁这边没找到在Booth的人，连读MBA的人都不是很多。

你能帮助提供你认识的宝洁背景的同学给我认识吗？非常感谢。

作者: chicago328 时间: 2009-10-2 22:49

Hey, Booth2011,

Thanks for your efforts sharing some valuable infor here...Do you have any advices on applying Part Time MBA program at Booth? I am preparing GMAT now and thinking of applying June quater 2010. (the one which R1 dealine is March sth... )

As for Part time application, what's the most important piece of application material? Resume, letter of reconnmendation...?

Any advice will be appreciated !!!

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作者: delightyue 时间: 2009-10-2 23:10

以下是引用dy_hong在2009/10/2 12:13:00的发言：

Below is some data you can refer to:

In total it is around 75K per year.

The living expeses could vary depend on your choices (live in downtown / near campus, rent studio/ share rooms, social a lot/ modestly), especially your burgets on travelling expenditures. But overall the basic living expenses in Chicago is less expensive ( say, New York, Boston)/ at most equivalent to other US metropolitan cities, so I guess that won't be an decisive factor when choosing b-schools.

作者: Booth2011 时间: 2009-10-2 23:42

以下是引用beckwang1983在2009/10/2 21:32:00的发言：

非常感谢。我在中国宝洁这边没找到在Booth的人，连读MBA的人都不是很多。

你能帮助提供你认识的宝洁背景的同学给我认识吗？非常感谢。

没问题，请查阅你的CD信箱。：）

作者: chenfan0319 时间: 2009-10-3 04:04

有两个问题请教一下：

1）这一届R2从大陆招了没有？

2）从中国招过去的背景中，有没有entrepreneur的背景？

作者: NeilJ 时间: 2009-10-4 21:23
R2招了基本都是咨询背景

作者: turbo2008 时间: 2009-10-5 21:39

Hi Booth2011,

Thank you for taking your time to answer our questions.

I am planning to apply to Booth for R1. However, I am having
a hard time figuring out what to do with the slide presentation. Do you have
any suggestions? Also, does Booth provide any samples?

Cheers!

作者: turbo2008 时间: 2009-10-7 23:54
Booth2011, 申请时间快到了，能帮我回答以上问题吗？谢谢！

作者: Booth2011 时间: 2009-10-9 11:02

There is no sample provided by Booth... Please create the slides with your own imagination and passion. Actually it does not matter which areas that you cover: career achievement so far, career goals, your personal hobbies, or even your suggestions to Booth...

One important suggestion is that the slides should "complete" your whole application package, which means they show other aspects of your strengths and personalities in a more vivid way. Of course you can also iterate some of your qualities that you've mentioned in the essays. It all depends on you.

Moreover, there is no "right" format for these slides. You might start from the general image you have tried to depict in your essays. As long as that you think the "style" fits, it would be great.

Hope these comments help. Good luck!

以下是引用turbo2008在2009/10/5 21:39:00的发言：

Hi Booth2011,

Thank you for taking your time to answer our questions.

I am planning to apply to Booth for R1. However, I am having
a hard time figuring out what to do with the slide presentation. Do you have
any suggestions? Also, does Booth provide any samples?

Cheers!

作者: firefly_8x 时间: 2009-10-9 23:56

请问金融的人都是R1申请的么？去年R1和R2分别招了多少人呢？谢谢！

作者: terry_run 时间: 2009-10-10 01:33
did booth enroll in any chinese with retail/global sourcing background in R2? ...

作者: asap 时间: 2009-10-10 01:54

BOTH2011你好，因为自己本身是能源背景，最近两年的申请者中能源背景的中国学生多么，

如果方便的话，可否介绍他们认识一下？多谢！

作者: sunjie38 时间: 2009-10-11 11:45
你是做什么能源的？石油、天然气还是新能源？

作者: asap 时间: 2009-10-11 17:32

石油公司作财务的，所以也算有一些能源背景

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作者: rebeccalou 时间: 2009-10-11 18:05

booth2011，你好！我是auditing背景的，但不是big4的，想请问一下，每年的big4申请人多吗？你们这一届是否有相关背景的人啊，能帮助提供你认识的相关背景的人给我认识吗？非常感谢啊！

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作者: cartera 时间: 2009-10-12 12:34

Hello,

in the question: How did you choose your most recent job/internship and how did this experience influence your future goals? What about the Chicago Booth MBA makes you feel it is the next best step in your career at this time? (750-1000 words)

I joined my company after graduating and was promoted this june, should I answer why I joined my company or why I was promoted?

作者: sunjie38 时间: 2009-10-12 12:42

了解，不过最好是做sales and marketing, hehe

以下是引用asap在2009/10/11 17:32:00的发言：

石油公司作财务的，所以也算有一些能源背景

作者: hagendaz 时间: 2009-10-12 17:06
好详细好感人好好学习

作者: chicago328 时间: 2009-10-14 04:42

Booth2011

我准备申请 20106月份的Booth Part time MBA . 请问可以给我一些建议吗？关于有Full Time Job的申请人Part time MBA, 哪些方面要特别注意一下呢？

谢谢！！！

作者: JLivermore 时间: 2009-10-14 16:41
请问校友一下，Chicago交掉以后就看不到上传的essay了？我submit之前忘了proofread一下了。。。有什么办法再看得到吗？谢谢～

作者: Booth2011 时间: 2009-10-16 12:34
To JLivermore, for application system related questions, please try to figure out online or contact IT support. Please understand that we don't have access now.

To chicago328, we don't know much about part-time program application. Since we are year 1 here with majority of Chinese living in Hyde Park, we have very little crossover with part-time students. Sorry about that.

作者: yifeifan 时间: 2009-10-17 00:10
Hello！I want to ask about the early career enrollment. Have you ever heard of anyone who had no post-college working experience got admission from Booth? If so, what are their backgrounds?

My uncle, a business school professor in the States, told me many top business schools have no minimum working experience requirment currently. For example, Chicago, UCLA, Umich, and the silver scholars program of Yale SOM.
Here is what I found on the school's website:

Applicants in Final Year of College

If you are in your final year of college and thinking about whether
or not to apply to Chicago Booth, we look for students with the
following qualities:

Quality work experience (such as professional internships and an entrepreneurial spirit)
Competitive GPA (3.3 or higher on 4.0 scale)
Competitive GMAT score
Student leadership role(s) during college
Intellectual curiosity
Two recommendations, including one from an internship supervisor and one from a professor (three letters are preferred)
Demonstrates the ability to question the status quo, engage in the process of learning, and thrive on an academic challenge
Personal maturity
Ability to talk about why you want to get an MBA now

作者: Booth2011 时间: 2009-10-17 12:42
We do have classmates admitted without any working experience. I know a guy graduating from U.Chicago (Econ major) this year. You can search the posts in this spring. I remember a college girl from Beijing got interviewed.

作者: yifeifan 时间: 2009-10-17 18:59
Thanks! what do you feel about those classmates who have no working experience? I'm kinda curious...

作者: cannedpineapple 时间: 2009-10-21 04:43
Booth2011> Was wondering if you had any insight into my question on the first page on enrollment in your year?

yifeifan> I graduated from UChicago (Econ Major) in 2008 and went to Wharton immediately. It's been a great experience, feel free to ask me if you have any questions about it.

作者: cannedpineapple 时间: 2009-10-21 07:13
Just got this in my UChicago alumni magazine:

http://news.uchicago.edu/news.php?asset_id=1735&msource=MAG2009

"The University of Chicago’s global engagement and scholarship will take
an important stride forward in fall 2010 when it opens a new center in
China, President Robert J. Zimmer said this week."

作者: Booth2011 时间: 2009-10-23 15:03
Jason,

I don't have official figure to release on your question before. But during a speech, Dean Snyder did mention that we admitted 593 students this year. Class 2010 should be around 550 ppl. So the % increase is expected to be higher than 7%.

Regarding the Beijing center: Yes, it is in the site selection process. And it shows the commitment of U.of Chicago, as well as Chicago Booth, to China.

作者: cannedpineapple 时间: 2009-10-23 23:29
Booth2011> 593 enrolled or 593 admitted? I assume you mean enrolled.. that's awesome!

I'm really excited about the Beijing center! I was actually in the first batch of UChicago students who went to Beijing for the Civilisation studies programme in 2006. I'm amazed it has grown into something this big now!

作者: fitswarce 时间: 2009-10-25 13:30
I heard some rumors concerned that the Booth school and the MBA program actually do not have such a close relationship. Sometimes, we can even use "tention" to interpret their links now. I don;t know whether it is true or not.

作者: wordance 时间: 2009-10-26 22:36
Does anyone have an idea about how many percent of interviewees get offers?

thanks

作者: chicago328 时间: 2009-10-27 05:38

以下是引用Booth2011在2009/10/16 12:34:00的发言：
To JLivermore, for application system related questions, please try to figure out online or contact IT support. Please understand that we don't have access now.

Thanks for your reply. Dont worry. I will ask my question when I atten the infor session

作者: Booth2011 时间: 2009-10-30 11:10

以下是引用bitte在2009/10/28 12:51:00的发言：

I just want to jump out and kick back this one... my impression about Booth before I came here is that the students here are more academic focused (might be less interesting people), but when I got here, I find this is totally wrong! Boothies are very fun people, very collaborative, willing to help, warm, probably less agressive than other schools' students and very down-to-earth, are smart with substance --- nobody doubt about Boothies' intelligence! --- as a 2nd year quoted: when I was summer intern with XXX bank, people often came to me for help on difficult models because they assume that I should know since I'm from chicago ...

In all, I dont find any tension at all, people are mature enough to know how to deal with life here... We are not children any more, there are many ways to live a life, why to pose tension with people who you may be life time friends with? Pretty much portion of the students here are very laid back, some are not recruiting at all but working on their own business using the school's resource...

take it easy... I don't know how much I love Booth until I got here!

I totally agree. fitswarce, I don't know where you got this impression. I highly suggest you to reach out to as many people from different school as you can to feel the nuance difference. Booth is no doubt one of most collaborative schools. If you have been to the receptions, I am sure you could feel it.

作者: newborn2009 时间: 2009-11-18 11:56
路过的一、二年级同学：

我约好了下周一visit campus, 周二早上面世。

请问哪位同学有时间在周日晚上或者周一中午/晚上一起吃个饭或者聊一聊？

多谢

作者: UocBooth 时间: 2009-11-18 13:54
Beijing Center will be for non-degree purpose, running by Beth, she was UoC Asia Campus Managing Director, very nice and elegant lady, Dean Z said it would be a cost center, with no purpose of making money, mainly for undergraduated student visiting and using.
For networking, I suggest that you visit Linkedin.com and join Booth group, you should find many seniors there and able to learn from them.

作者: summercool1 时间: 2009-11-18 15:02
Dear Booth2011.
Thanks a lot for the kind help with answering all the questions.
I am from automotive background doing marketing and sales. Want to know the prospect of being enrolled by Booth. My current employer is Fortune 500 and a very well known German auto giant.
My Working exp is 6.5 till now with 2.5 in current auto one and 1 in international org and 3 in Chinese com.
GPA >3.7

Thanks a lot!

作者: newborn2009 时间: 2009-11-18 21:06
楼下的同学是回答偶的问题吗？不管怎样，谢拉。

偶要去chicago campus，那我去linkedin上看一下：）

Beijing Center will be for non-degree purpose, running by Beth, she was UoC Asia Campus Managing Director, very nice and elegant lady, Dean Z said it will be a cost center, with no purpose of making money, mainly for undergraduated student visit and use.
For networking, I suggest that you can visit Linkedin.com and join Booth group, you should find many seniors there and able to learn from them.

-- by 会员 UocBooth (2009/11/18 13:54:26)

作者: thecow10000 时间: 2009-11-18 22:25
I will have to disagree. From my experience, Chicago Booth alumni are very helpful to each other and to prospective students. Also, Booth is not a "pure finance school" as many think it is. There are plenty of students heading towards management, consulting, marketing, and entrepreneurship. Students also know how to have fun. That "Bowling Club" shows it all.

I heard some rumors concerned that the Booth school and the MBA program actually do not have such a close relationship. Sometimes, we can even use "tention" to interpret their links now. I don;t know whether it is true or not.

-- by 会员 fitswarce (2009/10/25 13:30:00)

作者: realrual 时间: 2009-11-18 22:48
i attended one seesion which held by Booth students, i can only say they are so friendly, very warm to give me advice.

作者: xiaoyuanzi 时间: 2009-11-18 23:09
标题: 关于Booth的费用
一年全部要8万刀，两年就是16万。
自己负担是比不小的投资，请问班上有多少比例的同学拿到奖学金？ Full tuition waiver 和 half tuition waiver的比例大概多大？
还有Fellowship及merit based 的scholarship 大概多少钱呢？给的话一般是只给一年（然后下一年看表现？），还是一下给两年？
还有在申请签证的时候是不是只要说明有一年的费用就可以了？过去了之后下一年的费用怎么搞定呢？依靠贷款么?

作者: Booth2011 时间: 2009-11-19 14:25
To summercool1,

We don't have current Chinese students from auto companies. But we do have some from consumer goods sales & marketing, and some from consulting with previous background in auto marketing. There shouldn't be any problem in your background. 6.5 yr experience is above the mean, but we also see classmate from Greater China with longer experience. Don't worry about that.

Dear Booth2011.
Thanks a lot for the kind help with answering all the questions.
I am from automotive background doing marketing and sales. Want to know the prospect of being enrolled by Booth. My current employer is Fortune 500 and a very well known German auto giant.
My Working exp is 6.5 till now with 2.5 in current auto one and 1 in international org and 3 in Chinese com.
GPA >3.7

Thanks a lot!

-- by 会员 summercool1 (2009/11/18 15:02:09)

作者: Booth2011 时间: 2009-11-19 14:34
To xiaoyuanzi,

I don't have fellowship/scholarship stats, but I know some people got that. Tuition waiver could be rare case. Some merit-based schloarship is as high as $35,000. But it is really competitive to apply. Most people take various amount of loans. Please refer to Booth website for the financing informaiton.

一年全部要8万刀，两年就是16万。
自己负担是比不小的投资，请问班上有多少比例的同学拿到奖学金？ Full tuition waiver 和 half tuition waiver的比例大概多大？
还有Fellowship及merit based 的scholarship 大概多少钱呢？给的话一般是只给一年（然后下一年看表现？），还是一下给两年？
还有在申请签证的时候是不是只要说明有一年的费用就可以了？过去了之后下一年的费用怎么搞定呢？依靠贷款么?

-- by 会员 xiaoyuanzi (2009/11/18 23:09:04)

作者: lcat1215 时间: 2009-11-21 12:20
请教校友，我这样的履历对于申请Chicago有竞争力吗？（实话实说，不用担心。。：））
国内TOP10，商务英语专业,GPA3.3
GMAT720,TOFEL108
外资商业银行两年培训生加3年企业银行客户经理

我的担心有两点：
1，看上去booth招的finance背景的人没有commercial banking的。。
2, 尽管有很大的选课的自由，还是担心数学模型数量分析的课程跟不上。。。不知道没有finance背景也没有engineer背景的同学们学习吃力么？

谢谢！

作者: Booth2011 时间: 2009-11-22 04:41

To lcat1215:

1. your experience is fine. we have students from commercial bank background almost every year.
2. GMAT and TOFEL is fine.
3. GPA is not that impressive since you have only 5 years experience from bachelor degree (moderate, but not that long).

I would conclude that, as long as you come up with a good story of why you wanna do MBA for now at Booth, and how MBA will add value to your career path, you will find yourself competitive.

Good luck!

请教校友，我这样的履历对于申请Chicago有竞争力吗？（实话实说，不用担心。。：））
国内TOP10，商务英语专业,GPA3.3
GMAT720,TOFEL108
外资商业银行两年培训生加3年企业银行客户经理

我的担心有两点：
1，看上去booth招的finance背景的人没有commercial banking的。。
2, 尽管有很大的选课的自由，还是担心数学模型数量分析的课程跟不上。。。不知道没有finance背景也没有engineer背景的同学们学习吃力么？

谢谢！

-- by 会员 lcat1215 (2009/11/21 12:20:14)

作者: lcat1215 时间: 2009-11-23 16:20
谢谢LZ。关于你的建议想多问问。我关注了几个学校，从学校的essay和校友的介绍大致可以看出每个学校的偏好或者，比如berkeley可能会喜欢essay里面强调你的innovation,TUCK喜欢committment，想请教你的看法，BOOTH最期待的是什么？why MBA, why now, why this school几乎是每个学校想知道的，BOOTH更想看到的是为什么选择这个学校还是为什么这个时候要读MBA呢？对于个人素质，BOOTH是不是喜欢具有很强的思考能力的人？

作者: cannedpineapple 时间: 2009-12-1 02:31
Booth is a University of Chicago school. There is a reason why we want to train "The Life of The Mind", and at least two years ago when I was there, the front page of the brochure for Booth said- "Challenge Everything".

作者: brass20y 时间: 2009-12-10 13:26
谈论chicago的都是finance背景的兄弟
如果我要做biz dev manager->GM(工程师背景，现在转做biz dev了)，能否请校友给点意见和建议？(我知道chicago的GM和strategy课程相对不够强，但确实有部分是想做GM的兄弟进了chicago)

作者: windboy 时间: 2009-12-26 20:32
it is great to know that current chicago gsb student enjoys his/her time at school. hope the snowfall this year is not going to cause too much trouble..as a grad from chicago, I'd highly recommend any one with some serious academic interest to attend the programme if admitted. it is really a great experience second to none. i still remember some of the courses/lectures from some truely amazing professors, such as Veronesi.

for some one who is really into making a living solely out of professional network in the form of "leadership" etc, and to a less extend into technical skills, chicago may not be your top choice if you are lucky to get offers from other top schools.

作者: piaopiao633 时间: 2009-12-27 00:54

来到Booth一个学期了，一直没有时间上来，现在终于放假有点时间，希望写些东西来让大家对Booth多一些了解。在此，特别根据几个职业方向分开来谈：

Banking：无需多说，Booth的finance人人都知道很强。如果你将来想要做banking，我认为Booth应该作为你的首选，因为学校这方面的资源太多了，有一大群像你一样的banker-to-be，10月份一开始，各大银行陆陆续续过来，甚至来好几次。学校的investment banking group不停的邀请banker来做lunch&learn，向你讲banking knowledge，教你了解这个行业。Finance professor也是一流的，如果你细心查一查，不仅仅经济，不少金融原理和定价模型都是芝加哥的学者发明的，即使你接触不到这些学者，Booth的不少教授都了解他们的工作，可以和你深入的讨论这些理论的来源和应用，所以你的knowledge完全是first hand的。经济学就更不用说了，有时候你会惊喜地发现诺贝尔奖得主的名字出现在开课老师的名单中，当然，这些课都很hot，你要有足够多的point才能bid到。另外，芝加哥这个城市应该是仅次于纽约的最重要的金融中心，Booth有着先天的地理优势，很方便与各大金融机构的Chicago office联系。这些除外，我觉得最重要的是同学圈子，找banking的学生是Booth最大的一个群体，这个环境自然而然给你创造了非常好的学习环境。另外，也有很多ex-banker，这些人很多都是要换行作investment management或PE，但是他们的背景和knowledge都可以供你借鉴，而且booth的学生很容易相处，同学之间关系虽然不能说近如兄弟（毕竟是business school）但是并没有像一些学校的学生之间那样的竞争气氛过于激烈，事实上，同学们都非常乐于帮助，smart是不用说的。

Consulting：找咨询的人是Booth的第二大群体。相信Consulting和banking在任何一个B-school的都是最popular的两个职业方向，recruiting程序也比较standardize。Booth的Strategic management显然被很多人都忽略了，但是如果你看一下career report，你会看到几大咨询公司在Booth招人甚至多过bank。而且四大咨询公司内都有很多alumni，公司会专门成立Booth recruiting team竞相来宣传，争夺Booth的学生资源。和banking一样，这些公司不停的来办活动：招聘会，各种networking，学生组织，lunch&learn seminars… 我想这种资源应该不亚于任何其他的school。。。

Entrepreneur: 我很难去比较创业方向和别的学校有何区别。但是Booth的Polsky center是全美最好的entrepreneurship program center了，有不少competition和VC资源。可以到Polsky center的网站去查一查以往的项目，不少成功的项目，比如iPhone的Bump technology就是源于Booth的一个学生团队。当然，大部分创业项目都不是solely school based的，项目与外界社会有着紧密联系，另外，很多项目是由跨学校的学生之间组队开展的。来到这里，发现这里也不乏那种不recruit任何别的工作，而专心搞创业项目的人。

我的了解有限，对于其他职业方向，等有了一定了解再来阐述。另外，在此谈一点职业以外的话题。

Culture: 有人说Booth太过于强调academic，学生之间关系不够close。从我入学开始，发现不是这样的，开学之前的各种social活动可以看到，同学都非常有趣，很有才华，环境非常dynamic，你也可以交到各种背景的朋友。当然，B-school是个特殊的群体，大家之间既是同学，也是某种意义上的同事，所以在B-school, act professionally是理所当然的，act professional是说，作professional student不可能像大学那样懒懒散散过日子，凡是等着学校教你怎么样。在Booth从一进来，你就要有很明确的职业和学习方向，明白自己加入哪些学生团体，主动接触哪些同学。和在公司工作类似，在待人接物、时间管理上要professional… 另外，从我的观察来看，Booth的同学之间不像有些学校竞争气氛那么强烈和紧张，同学们还是很乐于相互帮助的。可能是年龄和工作经历的缘故，Booth的学生成熟度稍微高一些，学校整个的风格就比较down-to-earth，有时候我觉得Booth在国内有点undervalued了，在美国，他的名声很不错的。

Study：不像HBS那种以学生讨论为主导的课堂，Booth大部分课还是seminar形式的，但是美国同学一般非常积极，会在课堂上不停的发言，发表自己的观点，不懂的话，会立刻打断老师问问题。每次上课，听到来自不同国家的同学提出自己的观点，甚至debate，是我觉得来美国读B-school最值的时候了，因为那种learning是很难在国内或者单纯的工作经历就能得到的。另外，每门课老师都会要求或者鼓励同学们组成３－５人的study group一起讨论和做作业，不少中国同学喜欢和中国同学组队，因为语言交流方便可以节省时间。但是我强烈支持和别的国家同学组队，因为和不同style／culture background的同学合作的经历本身就是非常宝贵的经验。

美国社会：来美国时间不长，可以贡献的观点不多，仅供参考吧。来之前HBO看多了，觉得美国是个很喜欢追求fun，生活很悠闲的国家，美国人也比较热情开朗，单纯，easy going。来了之后完全改变看法，可能是因为接触的人都是背景和教育都比较好，大家也相对都比较sophisticated和smart的professional，当然不会像电影里面那些喜剧演员一样的好玩儿，所以完全不能stereotype美国人。而美国社会是个很competitive的社会，经常会提到loser，winner，这点从美国人非常verbal、喜欢争强好胜的性格可见一斑。中国学生过去不要把自己看得过高，即使中国发展比较快，ＧＤＰ排第三了也不能有优越感，毕竟不是所有美国人都了解中国或者对中国感兴趣，骨子里面他们还是认为美国是最富有的国家。而美国人处处讲平等，美国同学，美国公司都不会因为你是外国人就treat you differently，不会觉得你有什么不一样，该用什么语速和你说话就是什么语速，对和你共事时对你的期望也一样。这一点好也不好，好在你们机会均等（当然也不排除你和公司networking的时候很难谈的有深度），不好在于你的china background不见得被人value。在此再加一点感受：因为我对创业比较感兴趣，我发现在美国，大家比较敢想敢做，就像Nike的广告词说的“nothing is impossible”，当你谈到一个想法，人们的第一反应都不会是马上嘲笑或者告诉你创业多难，创业没有你想象的那么简单，大家会觉得有创业想法是个很自然的事情，无可厚非，通常是持有积极态度的。而在国内，我得到的反馈最多的就是“别异想天开了，老老实实做事吧”…或许这就是所谓的美国精神、american dream吧，这个国家有过太多的神话，也喜欢创造奇迹。

说了这么多，最后，希望对Booth有兴趣的朋友不要错过这个不错的学校。祝申请成功！

-- by 会员 bitte (2009/12/26 18:49:22)

非常感谢你的分享~一个学期下来能有这么多的感受还是挺让人羡慕的，应该是个加速成长的过程吧~bitte能跟我们分享一下你的背景么？还有我一直很confuse的一点，Booth的核心精神是“challenge everything”，是旨在挖掘学生的思考的能力么？会不会造成Booth出来的学生都比较aggressive一些？or 写essay的时候要体现自己how to challenge会比较好？

thanks！

作者: wordance 时间: 2009-12-27 01:14
Hi
i applied to both chicago and columbia this year. I got columbia admission but was waitlisted at chicago.
my heart is still with chicago though. always loved it and saw it as a better fit for me.
Hence i plan to write an appeal letter to the admission offices in the next
few days stating my interest first. then follow up with substantiating
materials later on.

do you think it is a good idea to mention that i have already received
cbs offer? this could prove to the adcom my value and reinforce the
belief that i'm a qualified candidate. but i fear they may see this as
a show off or threatening gesture and ding me right away.
i will mention in the email how much i love chicago and how
well i think i fit with the school. i will also justify why i prefer
booth over cbs and promise that i will dump cbs for chicago if i had
the opportunity.

what are your thoughts on this?
many thanks

作者: cannedpineapple 时间: 2009-12-27 02:13
wordance> I think they already know your value... which is why they did not reject you. It is far more productive using that space to reinforce your passion for Booth, rather than using it to say 'why not CBS'. It is not about being threatening or non-threatening; but rather understanding why a school fits you is far more important. After all, they may think, if CBS is such a poor fit, then why did wordance apply there in the first place? Maybe he also feels that way about Chicago.. Once you show that you do things that you don't fully agree with, that logic can also apply to your application to Chicago in the first place.

windboy> Leadership also includes thinking about how to apply soft skills. It is a false contradiction to say that hard and soft skills are separate, and the University of Chicago will only teach the former. My understanding of the spirit of the University of Chicago is this: what we triumph most is the ability and drive to live life knowingly. To live, in everything, not just in the physical world, but also to apply our reasoning faculties and the lives of our mind. This applies to everything in life- including leadership, interpersonal skills, and so on. I cannot begin to say how much I owe to the school, in every aspect of my life.

BTW, part of that reasoning process about life, when applied consistently, also says the following: that the way to be successful is not to simply think, but also to do. So the approach that the school triumphs, while being intellectual in nature, certainly does not stay in the domain of only the academic.

That said, you're right. If you don't like this intellectual approach to everything, you may be better off elsewhere.

作者: windboy 时间: 2009-12-27 22:36
jelt2359 > too much subjective interpretation will sometimes cause troubles... anyway, my comments on the forum are general casual ones written down in less 60 secs, which may lack some theoretical compactness. that's perhaps the reason why people may (mis)read too much of it. I didn't say anything about seperation of hard/soft skills. remind me if I did. apologies if that is true and mislead any one.

the truth is that for most of the time, hard/soft skills are seperately focused/desired on different jobs/functions, though they do complement each other in an ideal situation. there is an deep economic reason behind it - comparative advantage..a term seems too simple to explain, which in fact warrante pages of proofs...seems too chicago?? the fact of life is that soft/leadership/network sometimes brings you more money than technical skills, though it may not be true for certain functions. so it is purely a self-selection process: find your comparative advantage and make best use of it. nothing wrong/right with choosing to focus on soft or hard skills..

most, if not all, MBA programmes is to make money and hope, a big hope, their products- mba grads will sell well and get good job offers. how to achieve this goal? this is the million buck question all deans/associate deans of the b-schools are wracking their heads for answers. value of a B-school mba is indeed overated, at least when they are just out of school.

CBS> yes, you should write a letter to chicago and re-iterate your committment to chicago, while explaining your situation with cbs. they won't take it in the wrong way. don't worry about showing-off, etc. they will know you are good/lucky enough to be admitted to cbs, which is also a great school. even if you don't get admission from chicago, you have nothing to lose!!! othewise you may regret for not having done it!!

作者: cannedpineapple 时间: 2009-12-28 13:21
windboy> The idea of comparative advantage is an important one. You implied it here: "for some one who is really into making a living solely out of professional network in the form of "leadership" etc, and to a less extend into technical skills, chicago may not be your top choice if you are lucky to get offers from other top schools."

There is obviously truth to this statement. However, most people apply this logic and come to the following extreme conclusion: "that if I'm not technical, I don't belong at Chicago." In fact the truth is, you need both in order to be successful. A person with hard skills but no soft skills can never hope to get his point across; a person with soft skills but no hard skills can never hope to make an accurate, well-grounded decision. But you obviously know this. And so does Chicago. In fact, a case might be said for taking a group of technically inclined people, and giving them what they lack, so that they may be better equipped to succeed in the world (which as you note, is the point of all business skills): soft skills.

So for instance, I had gone to Chicago to study economics, but quickly discovered that its sociology, english, anthropoly, and other 'soft' discipline departments were also the best in the world. Most people don't realise this, and use a simple interpretation of 'comparative advantage' to explain that Chicago must simply cater to the technical.

Having said that, there is certainly truth to comparative advantage, which is why I too wrote, in my last sentence, that "If you don't like this intellectual approach to everything, you may be better off elsewhere."

I was simply pointing out that most people take the idea of comparative advantage too far, and pigeon-hole us into one ('technical') way of training leaders. This is inaccurate.

作者: vivi72 时间: 2009-12-28 18:47
想问一下治安是不是真的那么可怕，特别对于女生来说。

作者: cannedpineapple 时间: 2009-12-29 03:43
I lived in Hyde Park for two years. It is a black neighbourhood, but it is not dangerous. After all, it is a place where people spend $50,000 a year to go to study with the brightest minds in the world, and a place where President Obama owns a house and once lived- how dangerous could it be, if these people continue to go? There are certain areas we are told not to go, but within the confines of the school itself, we are remarkably, remarkably safe, and we have a very large private police force to ensure that.

作者: vivi72 时间: 2009-12-29 10:13
jason.thanks a lot~

作者: cannedpineapple 时间: 2010-1-1 01:40
Sample UChicago (NOT Chicago Booth) essay for 'why UChicago' here.

http://forum.chasedream.com/North_American_MBA/thread-429418-3-1.html

作者: faridahchen 时间: 2010-1-2 23:51
我也申请了今年booth第二轮。我想请问一下，GMAT的成绩只有700是不是基本不可能被考虑了呢？我的工作时间有3年多了，在国有商业银行海外机构工作，一开始的时候参与了对该国当地银行的收购，这也是中国银行业第一次海外银行收购，之后在投行及公司业务部工作到现在有2年了。托福成绩是108。

作者: cannedpineapple 时间: 2010-1-3 04:10
While the average GMAT last year was 714, 80% of applicants had scores that were as low as 660, and as high as 760. Which means that 10% had scores below 660 and still got in. The school also says this: "The admission committee evaluates each application in a holistic manner, as we value the diverse experiences and accomplishments each student brings to the Chicago Booth community. Therefore, we do not have minimum requirements for GPA or GMAT scores. View the class profile in more detail."

Just because you see many people posting here with high scores, doesn't mean it's a requirement for admission. More important than the score itself, adcom looks out for your breakdown- especially for international students- in order to be sure that you can handle both the math and the verbal/logical rigour of the curriculum.

作者: topmba2009 时间: 2010-1-3 04:19

jason.thanks a lot~

-- by 会员 vivi72 (2009/12/29 10:13:00)

vivi72> are you not going to take your current offer and instead trying Booth ?

作者: faridahchen 时间: 2010-1-3 11:04
jason,依你说的整体背景，还有能够给booth带来什么更加重要，那推荐信重要吗，比如我能够找到中国驻我工作国家的商务参赞帮我写推荐信，does that help? a little bit? 推荐人对我肯定是比较了解了，也认识我2年多了。

作者: cannedpineapple 时间: 2010-1-3 11:27
More important than who he is, is what he has to say. If you find someone great who has no time to write anything beyond "This guy is fantastic" and doesn't provide examples, then that doesn't help. Having someone at a higher level write a recommendation is sometimes a good thing because he can provide a perspective that someone working with you can't. That being said, bosses/recommenders, especially when they're too high up, tend to 'miss out' on who you are as a person because they don't work closely with you.

So, again, more important than who he is, is what he has to say.

作者: faridahchen 时间: 2010-1-3 11:54
了解了，谢谢你jason。

作者: topmba2009 时间: 2010-1-5 23:59
标题: R2 Recommendation Deadline postponed
Just in case anyone applying for Booth R2 is struggling to get their recommendation done by Jan 6. Here is good news:

"Chicago Booth will accept recommendations up to one full week after the January 6 deadline (up to January 13). With the holidays so close to our deadline, we wanted to remove some of the pressure you may feel in having your recommenders submit on time. So as long as you click "submit" by the deadline (January 6 at 5:00 p.m. Central Time), we will accept your application as part of Round 2 even if your recommenders are a few days late. The one caveat, however, is that we cannot start reviewing your application until we receive both letters." ~~ Rose Report.

http://blogs.chicagobooth.edu/RoseReport/

作者: deliahou 时间: 2010-1-6 06:48
Dear all,
I am currently admitted to Chicago Booth and Yale. And I feel the styles of the 2 schools are quite different. For Yale, there have already been many alumni (Chineses) contact me to answer questions. And I already got some information about financing. However, there is not much communication with Chicago Alumni, a little bit dissapointing. I have not got much information about financing yet. Maybe for Chicago, they expect you to find out problems and work out answers with initiative. May I know when I can get some more detailed information?
Chicago is well known with the culture of "Challenge". Sometimes it may not be that easy to customize the curriculum to just meet the needs. I would probably have some mentor to discuss my curriculum as well. I aim for investment banking, with a bachelor degree in accounting and I am supposed to pass the CFA this summer. I work in commerical bank currently. Do you have any suggestions on the course to take or some professors as well? I also think networking and job hunting should be the crucial part of MBA life. How to try to balance the study life and social life if the courses themselves are already very demanding?

Thanks for the kind answer in advance.
Best regards,

作者: 酒楼 时间: 2010-1-10 15:03
Do I need to mail the offical transcripts when I apply? or I can send them when the admin asks so?

作者: Booth2011 时间: 2010-1-12 13:17
Hi Deliahou,
Most of the admitted students have been called by current students. I personally made 2 calls in late Dec. It might be the case that your buddy student met some problems to access to your contact info. We have hosted info sessions in Beijing, Shanghai, Hong Kong, and Taipei around Xmas, and many similar events in other cities. If you happened to miss all those events, you can definitely email us here or directly to the admission office. There are more than dozens of current students waiting to answer your questions.

Financing
The school has not announced the loan plan for this year. Last year, the rate is 3mo Libor+7.67% for non-cosigner loan, maximum$70k for one year. You may wait till March - April to see the new plan. As the credit market gets more stable, you may expect same or better offer this year.

Course Selection
There are tons of excellent courses here at Booth. Most ppl targeting IB take Finance or Finance + Accounting as concentration(s), maybe Economics as well. You can tailor your study here following that. All course info you can read from the website. There will be enough time for you to communicate with 2nd years after you land at Chicago. If you have any particular interested topics/areas, feel free to leave a contact. I can probably call you up later.

Networking/Socials
Yep, it is hard to balance everything at same time. That's why ppl who recruits for IB are now hectic to interview with each bank. The key solution actually is the community spirit of Booth. You'll find that everyone here is nice and supportive. Also the school provides millions of career and social opportunities to connect you with alumni or others. Don't worry on that. The alumni network of Booth is definitely one of the strongest and closest. You'll feel that if you dig into the subtle difference of the schools you've mentioned.

Late congrats than never. J. Cheers.

Dear all,
I am currently admitted to Chicago Booth and Yale. And I feel the styles of the 2 schools are quite different. For Yale, there have already been many alumni (Chineses) contact me to answer questions. And I already got some information about financing. However, there is not much communication with Chicago Alumni, a little bit dissapointing. I have not got much information about financing yet. Maybe for Chicago, they expect you to find out problems and work out answers with initiative. May I know when I can get some more detailed information?
Chicago is well known with the culture of "Challenge". Sometimes it may not be that easy to customize the curriculum to just meet the needs. I would probably have some mentor to discuss my curriculum as well. I aim for investment banking, with a bachelor degree in accounting and I am supposed to pass the CFA this summer. I work in commerical bank currently. Do you have any suggestions on the course to take or some professors as well? I also think networking and job hunting should be the crucial part of MBA life. How to try to balance the study life and social life if the courses themselves are already very demanding?

Thanks for the kind answer in advance.
Best regards,

-- by 会员 deliahou (2010/1/6 6:48:57)

作者: Booth2011 时间: 2010-1-12 13:23

you forgot the spread dropped from 7.95% to 7.67%. lol

-- by 会员 deliahou (2010/1/6 6:48:57)

Sorry to hear that you didnt get the arranged call by the school to answer your questions. In my case last year, there are actually a second year student and some alumni reaching out to me. Maybe due to winter break, the adcom has not get the chance to arrange it yet. Actually financing information normally comes out very late. I got info about financing in May. But you should not worry about it. You certainly would be able to get the school loan, if you worry about the rate, this year, as first year, we pay 7.95%+LIBOR.

If you want to do banking, Chicago is definitely the better place to go. With your commercial bank background, I think it's much easier for you to kick off the ground. Regarding which course to choose, you can find resource on the school site, there are guides on which course range you should choose from to fit your concentration (IB). You can also check the resource in Investment Banking Group (a student group). Anyway, I think it's too early for you to worry about this, because once school starts, they will teach you step by step regarding course selection. But a piece of advice: I suggest you go find a i-banking pre-MBA internship with the famous firms now, even if it's non paid, as this will be very very helpful. I didn't think about this untill I found some people did it which makes them very competitive in internship hunting. With these experience, you can be more relaxed to spend time on social once you got here without recruiting worries.

Welcome to Chicago!

-- by 会员 bitte (2010/1/9 12:00:51)

作者: lvp 时间: 2010-1-12 13:27

-- by 会员 deliahou (2010/1/6 6:48:57)

Big Congs and welcome to Chicago!

Don't worry, they will be so many people contact with you, It will not be a problem at all. For the course, Chicago's flexible curriculum is more than customized, it's the spirit of freedom and market efficient, you will soon feel it.

If you wanna be a banker, Chicago is one of the best school for you to switch career no matter in US or Greater China. We are challenging in academic but colloabrative in daily life. For your question about career change, I think it's better for you to take CFA, it will add points when you are doing job hunting. For network, just take it easy, meet people and make friends with them, no matter buy side or sell side, it will help you much more than only application, it helps you whole life.

Enjoy your beautiful days before coming to school!

作者: cannedpineapple 时间: 2010-1-12 13:36

-- by 会员 bitte (2010/1/9 12:00:51)

How does a pre-MBA internship help? In my experience, those who are successful are successful because of who they are- outstanding individuals. Some also have the requisite work skills- but an internship is unlikely to provide enough of that for a boss to say, 'let's hire this guy now, because he's done a pre-MBA internship and can step right in.'

Rather, business school is SO stressful and SO much work, that if I were a prospective student now, I'd rest, make sure I have my priorities right, and think very clearly about all my options. These things take time- just think about how long it took you to apply and get into business school. You don't want to rush into things like that, and you don't want to be caught in business school, potentially haven't gotten your internship, and having to make a 3-day decision about your future.

There will be plenty of time to worry about recruiting later. In fact, that's all you'll be doing before long. But it might be good to stop to think about what you want out of the experience. For instance, Steven Levitt, author of Freakonomics, and also potentially the smartest man I ever met, is at UChicago. He doesn't teach at Booth. In fact, he's not currently teaching (although when I was there he taught the most amazing Economics of Crime course ever, but even then only in the college.) If you want to get the chance to interact with and learn from one of the smartest economists in the world, you'll have to reach out to him, send him an email, see if you can work with him doing research, and so on.

Then there is the law school where Obama once taught, which also has an amazing faculty. Did you also know that UChicago has the top Sociology, Literature, and other humanities departments in the world? And that, when you take classes at the Gleacher Center downtown with the part-time MBAs, the whole atmosphere of the class is different? Once you go in, you'll realise that you don't have time to seek out or think about such things. And then you would have gone through two years in what I believe is one of the best schools in the world, and never even knew that you had so many resources at your disposal. Oh, and if anyone seriously wants to improve their writing, I recommend you take the Little Red Schoolhouse writing class. I use principles of writing and persuasion that I learnt in that class everyday. Again, this is not a Booth class. It's a UChicago class. You take it with all the students who are looking to write their PhDs- ie, people who formulate and write persuasive academic arguments for a living. If you think it's tough writing a business school essay, just wait till you try to make a dry academic paper readable to the general public. This was the only class I had to pass-fail in my entire time at UChicago. But oh what a class it was!

Apart from these, there are of course the regular Booth resources you can pursue- clubs, social events, and so on. Apart from Finance, Booth also has excellent Entrepreneurship and Marketing departments. I met many winners of the Booth Entrepreneurship competition.. the school really gives you a lot of support. Perhaps you'd like to start a business in 10 years? Do you have the necessary skillset and confidence to do it then? Maybe you can train it here. Many people dip their toes into entrepreneurship here with classes like "Commercialising Innovation". But they don't realise how easy it is to actually just start the business, with the incubator resources that the school offers.

Anyway, you already know these. Remember, you have two years here, and you'll never be back again. You won't have time to do everything. Before you make the decision to spend all that time doing a single thing, perhaps you should explore your options, and think about what you will truly treasure from the UChicago experience, 10 or 20 years from now.

You're about to embark on an amazing journey. I'm envious!

Jason

作者: lvp 时间: 2010-1-12 13:52

Do I need to mail the offical transcripts when I apply? or I can send them when the admin asks so?

-- by 会员酒楼 (2010/1/10 15:03:04)

i rememeber last year I did. If you can, I think it's better use official. If you cannot, you can contact with school to explain the reason and seek for a postpone.

作者: dogshead 时间: 2010-1-31 12:25
thanks for so much info from Booth admits. I would like to know whether it is possible for China mainland applicant to get enrolled in R3 whose dealine is Mar,10 2010.

作者: yvonneliu 时间: 2010-2-2 04:59
Hi, Booth

I am now a MSF student in IIT, Chicago. I just decieded to apply for Booth MBA of R3. I do not have any work experience except some internships during my undergraduate study. I am totally a finace background student . Is that too hurry for me to apply ? or is it difficult for me to get any chance? I know i am not a strong background person. i am just wondering whether i need to prepare more till the spring enrollment? since u r in chicago now, can we chat privately ,phone , mail or face to face ? my qq mail is 330993997(AT) QQ.C0M could u reply me as soon as possible? Thanks very much for ur help.

作者: orchidq 时间: 2010-2-5 13:03
标题: 新手报道~
各位前辈好！！！！！
本人最近才开始认真考虑申请MBA，因为之前有各种各样的担忧，一直没有下定决心。当我来到CD时，看到其实很多问题大家都是共有的，但是大家都照样昂首向前，而不是像我之前那样被困难吓倒。
而且还有许多好心的牛人耐心解答疑问，让我感到CD里异常的温暖。

看帖子也有一段时间了，发现最重要的是要和自己感兴趣的业内人士多交流，但由于我现在是在商行，想往投行发展，目前比较感兴趣的是M&A方向，因此想请各位大牛讲解一下Booth或其他top B-school这方面的校友资源以及从事这行业的感受和体会。以及要往这方面发展的努力方向（我可能会在两年后申请）。

期待各位的献身说法，先跪谢了！！！！！！

作者: Booth2011 时间: 2010-2-12 02:15
Round 3 yield rate is lower than that of previous two rounds in most schools. If you think you are ready, you can have a try. Otherwise, it's not that bad waiting to apply in autumn.

Hi, Booth

I am now a MSF student in IIT, Chicago. I just decieded to apply for Booth MBA of R3. I do not have any work experience except some internships during my undergraduate study. I am totally a finace background student . Is that too hurry for me to apply ? or is it difficult for me to get any chance? I know i am not a strong background person. i am just wondering whether i need to prepare more till the spring enrollment? since u r in chicago now, can we chat privately ,phone , mail or face to face ? my qq mail is 330993997(AT) QQ.C0M could u reply me as soon as possible? Thanks very much for ur help.

-- by 会员 yvonneliu (2010/2/2 4:59:27)

作者: Booth2011 时间: 2010-2-12 02:16
We don't see any R3 admitted from mainland in the current student pool. That's all what I can say.

thanks for so much info from Booth admits. I would like to know whether it is possible for China mainland applicant to get enrolled in R3 whose dealine is Mar,10 2010.

-- by 会员 dogshead (2010/1/31 12:25:38)

作者: chronozenki 时间: 2010-2-15 03:51
Hi,

I just recently received an interview invitation from Booth. I'm so happy that I can use this chance to fly to Chicago and visit the school. I don't know if anyone on this forum will be around on 2/23 or 2/24, but I would love to chat with students/alumni when I am there.

A question about the curriculum: I understand that a Booth MBA student will have the flexibility to take 1 LEAD, 3 Foundation, 6 Functional, and 11 Elective courses during the two years. However, another lady on this forum (vivi) mentioned that her interviewer said that some of the classes might be difficult to get in. Will this affect the flexibility of the course selections somehow? Also, does anyone have any experiences of taking a class that is from another graduate program at UChicago? Please share. I really appreciate your help!

作者: grant1 时间: 2010-3-29 02:21
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作者: windboy 时间: 2010-3-29 03:56
you need to bid for registration with courses. don't worry much: I never failed to register with any course I took and left school with more than 25K points, wish I could sell them ;-)

1) there are so many good profs offering courses with the same subjects

2) you will receive some presentation regarding course bidding when you are there.

作者: rainyrainy 时间: 2010-7-3 13:26
问下前辈

booth是比较偏好工作年限长一点(>5yrs)的applicant吗

前面爬楼看到有同学工作5年还被说工作时间不够长的？

作者: ttfly 时间: 2010-8-4 16:28
我也询问一下，我目前只有雅思成绩，不知道booth是否会偏向于接受toefl？我想赶第一轮，所以不想考ibt了。谢谢

作者: gracezz 时间: 2010-10-10 17:08
请问BOOTH的TOEFL CODE是多少？官网上写1832-02，但是教育部的网站上只能输入1832，不能加后面的02。。麻烦各位了。

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