It seems that those so-called international PE funds are generally very narrow-minded..I contacted them (some VPs, some associate directors) via my relatives and close friends...they expressly told me they only wanna recruit students from top B-schools, because those f*cking stupid LPs are very concerned about the team's investment experience and academic background. Regarding summer interns, a fund specializing in TMT confirmed with me they will only consider Wharton/HBS graduates....I am just curious how many Chinese students are studing in M7 mba programs....
I already had master degree in top IVY league schools and am doing MBA in a Top 30 schools in the US...anyway, will push for more networking opportunities to get an offer!
It's difficult to get into mega funds without pre-MBA buy side experience even you are from HBS/Wharton or any other schools. Plus most of them came from those few schools so it's reasonable to assume that they don't want to be diluted. They don't need to take the risk of hiring someone from a top 30 school and neither do they care about whether you are the no.1 or no.400 student from your school, unless you can bring sth else to the table. It's just the way how it works.
So don't be too disappointed and try to think what you can do with your background. Pick a game that you are allowed to play.
actually I do not think there are LOTS OF Chinese students in top MBA programs.Lots of them may only consider opportunities in the US. To be honest, I do not think all those M7 graduates are that excellent. I used to co-handle a PE project with the principal investments team of a leading investment bank. A wharton MBA worked there as associate,but I cannot smell any smartness from that guy. very "just so so", to be honest...
Moreover, I do not think there are much differences between other Top 30 MBA programs excluding M7. Anyway, it is useless to complain...there are lots of things out of our control...
clarification: my point is not all the M7 graduates have better qualities than graduates from other schools...it all depends...screening candidates by schools is so arbitrary....
楼主，心平气和一点
如果你是recruiter，你会怎么筛选？
如果两个人条件差不多，一般公司都会选择名校出身的吧？名校MBA的录取，就是帮用人单位做了非常好的第一轮筛选
反过来，既然学校排名一般，你和M7的竞争者比，有什么超过他们的优势呢？
如果有人和你说拒了你是因为LP对团队成员有很高的要求，这绝对是托辞，或者说是委婉的接口。感觉你尽管和他们联系上了，但他们对你的了解肯定很有限，你还没能展示出真正打动他们的业绩和能力。
每年去M7的中国学生是很大的一个群体——相对PE行业每年招的人数来说。别的不谈，看看HBS每年大陆入学人数就知道了。PE本来就不是一个用人大户，招的很少；为了节约招聘时间，内部人推荐就成为一个非常有效的首选途径；如果不行，再做一般招聘，但这时候，名校当然容易脱颖而出——诚然，不是每个M7的学生都比非M7的学生优秀，但总的优秀比例要大得多吧，从M7招人成功的概率要大不少吧——请换位思考，你是recuiter会怎么选
进入这个行业要靠机遇，祝好运！
拜托，LP看PPM的时候，才不会去看一个入门级别人员的学历呢。要是这个fund要靠一个associate的学历去卖的话，估计楼主也不会要去这家fund。
其实说穿了就是人家不想要你，找了个你没法改变的因素作为借口，这样比较简单而又不会引起纠缠。要不然email来来回回，还要浪费很多时间和口舌。
世界有时候是残酷了一点，不过也没有办法。
拜托，LP看PPM的时候，才不会去看一个入门级别人员的学历呢。要是这个fund要靠一个associate的学历去卖的话，估计楼主也不会要去这家fund。
其实说穿了就是人家不想要你，找了个你没法改变的因素作为借口，这样比较简单而又不会引起纠缠。要不然email来来回回，还要浪费很多时间和口舌。
世界有时候是残酷了一点，不过也没有办法。
真可笑，他难道一辈子当associate？什么理论啊
等你级别上去了，谁管你是哪个学校毕业的？学校牌子是个敲门砖，在入门的时候才有用。
自己不懂，就不要说别人可笑。
actually I do not think there are LOTS OF Chinese students in top MBA programs.Lots of them may only consider opportunities in the US. To be honest, I do not think all those M7 graduates are that excellent. I used to co-handle a PE project with the principal investments team of a leading investment bank. A wharton MBA worked there as associate,but I cannot smell any smartness from that guy. very "just so so", to be honest...
Moreover, I do not think there are much differences between other Top 30 MBA programs excluding M7. Anyway, it is useless to complain...there are lots of things out of our control...
top 30?不是我打击你，近好点投行的希望都不大。。。PE就更没戏了。。
你真的认为自己比HBS/Wharton的人优秀？那怎么才进top 30?
不是说H/W的人都很优秀，但你既然报考学校上已经逊色一筹了，同学network上更是差了很多，如果你没有在某些方面特别突出/优秀的能力，别人为啥要招你？
拜托，LP看PPM的时候，才不会去看一个入门级别人员的学历呢。要是这个fund要靠一个associate的学历去卖的话，估计楼主也不会要去这家fund。
其实说穿了就是人家不想要你，找了个你没法改变的因素作为借口，这样比较简单而又不会引起纠缠。要不然email来来回回，还要浪费很多时间和口舌。
世界有时候是残酷了一点，不过也没有办法。
1。这本身是个借口，这倒是没说错
2。但LP作团队调查的时候，入门级别人员学历和工作履历也确实是会看的。Finance和其他行业不同，你的学校/学历真正是跟你一辈子的。哪怕是MD等级的人，写个人背景简介的时候可能会因为空间问题只写一些大的deal,但毕业学校是一定会写的。。
top 30?不是我打击你，近好点投行的希望都不大。。。PE就更没戏了。。
你真的认为自己比HBS/Wharton的人优秀？那怎么才进top 30?
不是说H/W的人都很优秀，但你既然报考学校上已经逊色一筹了，同学network上更是差了很多，如果你没有在某些方面特别突出/优秀的能力，别人为啥要招你？
I choose to enroll in the T-30 school simply because they offered me half-tuition waiver for two years. A M7 and an Ivy League school's MBA program both admitted me but they ascertained that there is no scholarship. Even after emails back and forth, that Ivy School finally gave me 10K scholarship....but I just found out that there is substantial gap between top-tier and median MBA programs.....anyway, I think we can also strive for opportunities, though we have to make more efforts than those M7 guys....
top 30?不是我打击你，近好点投行的希望都不大。。。PE就更没戏了。。
这确实是事实。
既然你选择要钱不要排名高的学校，代价就是找好工作要难几倍，没有免费的午餐。
坦白说，现在这年景，你能找到一个工作就算不错了，更不要考虑什么PE,IB什么的，除非你有特殊关系，靠排名30的学位基本就没戏了。
说得好 LIFE IS TOUGH,NO FREE LUNCHM,FOREVER 即使动用特殊关系 也不是free lunch
top 30?不是我打击你，近好点投行的希望都不大。。。PE就更没戏了。。
这确实是事实。
既然你选择要钱不要排名高的学校，代价就是找好工作要难几倍，没有免费的午餐。
坦白说，现在这年景，你能找到一个工作就算不错了，更不要考虑什么PE,IB什么的，除非你有特殊关系，靠排名30的学位基本就没戏了。
yep, from a retropective perspective, 50K USD cannot be outweighed by other factors in top B-schools (network, quality of education, etc.).
For example, some Chinese girls in this T30 university always talk about how to marry a white guy or how to get green card. It is totally different from my previous experience in a Ivy League school .....In addition, most of my MBA classmates come from low-profile companies in China. In Chicago/Kellogg, I was quite impressed by those their students' qualities.Their network are much stronger than any 20-30 schools. Anyway, there is nothing impossible, but you need to make more efforts than them.....
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