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标题: 做物流的+金融专业 能否转咨询行业???呼唤达人解答!!! [打印本页]

作者: 雪里蕻小姐    时间: 2009-4-23 00:14
标题: 做物流的+金融专业 能否转咨询行业???呼唤达人解答!!!

我是做物流的,学的是金融,不过没作过一天金融,毕业也在跨国企业干了5,6年了,请问能否转咨询呢,咨询一直是我想尝试的兴趣领域,

我学校不是非常好的,也就2,3流本科吧,知道这里都是牛人,想请问能否可能转咨询行业呢?

呼唤达人解答,

非常感激!


作者: bernstein    时间: 2009-4-23 03:49
不是名校毕业的就去名校读一个MBA
作者: NSR    时间: 2009-4-25 01:43
Consulting firms like people with real operational experience. You can easily get a job in a consulting firm, provided that you don't mind specializing in logistics or SCM. You'll be loved by partners since projects on logistics need people like you to manage

To add a personal opinion, consulting experience would be good for your CV, especially if you wanna change career

作者: 雪里蕻小姐    时间: 2009-4-26 21:42

it's hard for me to enter the consulting firms without any consulting experience, btw, I sent my CV to these consulting firms ,no any interview chance until now!

BTW,I don't think the MBA degree can provide me the good career path.


作者: NSR    时间: 2009-4-29 17:35
Could be because of timing. Many companies are laying off people and cutting consulting budgets. We posted an opening last week and have received more than 50 CVs already. Even so, you may want to polish your CV to make your experience stand out. A year ago, I KNEW that consulting firms needed specialists in certain areas within logistics, especially in China. Not sure about the situation now. What are your current responsibilities? Consulting firms prefer people who've strategic knowedge, e.g. how to build robust supply chains, but don't want tactical people, e.g. how to handle customs clearance from China to Russia, how to ship goods from Israel to the Arab World, etc.

Agreed - MBA isn't something you should go for if you wanna do consulting in logistics. As an employer looking at CVs, MBAs don't matter at all (they're not detrimental though). Work experience counts

作者: 雪里蕻小姐    时间: 2009-5-2 00:19

Thanks for your opinion, I do have the experience both in supply chains and of customs clearance fields....

As you said,because of timing, many companies are cutting consulting budgets, could you pls help to advise me how many consulting firms are focusing on logistic field? any other way for me to enter these consulting firms,51job or chinaHR? it's really hard!

I do have the knowledge of supply chain,until now most of the consulting firms are focusing on the IT system ,such as SAP or others ERP system,my background hasn't any relationship with that....


作者: 雪里蕻小姐    时间: 2009-5-2 00:50
以下是引用bernstein在2009-4-23 3:49:00的发言:
不是名校毕业的就去名校读一个MBA

当然,我确实承认一个名校的mba从长远来说,绝对是对职业发展很有用处,毕竟两个同等能力条件的人,mba学历的人前途要长远一点.

不过,目前的经济形式下,我觉得海归很多都回国求职,性价比不高.

国内的话,其实我觉得mba基本都是钱堆出来的,一样的话,还不如出国申请个比较好的.

虽然我目前收入不高,口气很大。。。汗!

何况我是女生...6年工作经验,以前学校背景不是很好,以后出国念名校mba机会成本太高。


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作者: 雪里蕻小姐    时间: 2009-5-12 21:25

怎么没有人给我点指导呢?

莫非只有mba一条路?我觉得学mba还不如去考个什么cfa 之类的相关证书呢?


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作者: simbasl    时间: 2009-5-12 23:23
以下是引用雪里蕻小姐在2009-5-12 21:25:00的发言:

怎么没有人给我点指导呢?

莫非只有mba一条路?我觉得学mba还不如去考个什么cfa 之类的相关证书呢?


考CFA来寻求咨询公司的机会是南辕北辙了

你的背景不属于典型的咨询公司所选择的candidate,所以,常见的路径无非两条:

1、去一个好的MBA项目,毕业之后作为MBA的校园招聘求职咨询公司

2、Experienced hire - 如果咨询公司正好需要你的行业/职能经验,而你适时出现,那么也有可能被选中。一般不会那么好运,所以要么内部人推荐,要么猎头给你推荐。而另一个问题是,你的物流经验到底有多少价值,如果只是比较中低端的运营经验,恐怕(对领先的管理咨询公司来说)也不是那么有用

至于别的可能,不敢说一定没有,但肯定是上述两者为绝大多数情况

每年希望加入咨询的人很多,最终能加入的人很少,这个情况历来如此(其实是个围城拉——想从咨询转行的也很多,最终转成行的也不多)。所以,职业发展要理性和感性相结合,既要努力尝试,也要有一份“得之,我幸;不得,我命”的轻松心态,不要一条路走到底。


作者: fengxiaoma    时间: 2009-5-13 16:49
S版说的好,受教了。
作者: 雪里蕻小姐    时间: 2009-5-13 21:44

S版说的我基本上都明白了,非常感谢您的建议,

考CFA针对的是我之前学的金融专业,觉的想找个能把物流跟金融结合起来的点,不想浪费而已.

我以前的老东家出现过,MBA毕业生做最基础的出口操作,当然精力财力足够的情况下我肯定会去念.

您说的第二点我非常同意,关键是我目前为止觉得物流非兴趣所在,想找一个金融和物流结合的领域...觉得咨询可能会是兴趣所在而已.

另外您说的"你的物流经验到底有多少价值,如果只是比较中低端的运营经验"

我想了解的是,500强的物流公司和solution function/key account/vmi function方面的经验如果不够的话,什么样算是高端的物流经验呢?给我指个方向,我也好继续努力啦!


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作者: 雪里蕻小姐    时间: 2009-5-24 20:54
好像没什么人给我这方面的答复.....
作者: andrewguoqi    时间: 2009-6-1 09:26
楼主你好,我的情况跟你有点相似,我是在国有大型航空集团做operation management,3年经验,本科在国内还算可以,想转咨询,想做物流或供应链方面的咨询,今年准备申请mba,但在选校方面有些犹豫,主要还是去美国还是去中欧的犹豫,求大牛能不能给点建议,在美国,mit,msu,asu,psu  等在supply chain managememt 方面都很强,可是以后还是想回国发展,不知中欧在这方面如何?
还有msu,asu,psu在美国都还算不上top的,不晓得以后毕业后进咨询的可能大么? 有前辈说不是top mba进top 的咨询诸如 MCK,Bain,BCG很难,不知进AT  kearney或R&B有希望么?
小弟我资质浅薄,还请牛人给出指点!谢谢

作者: andrewguoqi    时间: 2009-6-1 09:45
回楼主上个问题,个人认为如果你想读就去读吧,应为供应链跟金融还是有那么点关系的,何况越来越多的国际物流巨头把目光放在了供应连的另一环资金流上,谁能提供金融服务谁就有可能是最后的赢家,所以有金融背景是件好事啊,物流在中国刚刚起步,谁知道10年以后会发生多大的变化呢?我想这块就应该是您所说的金融跟物流的结合点了,至于跟咨询有没有关系我就不晓得了。
不过mba毕业后回来做基本操作实在是太太浪费了,这个也 从侧面反映出问题,国内的物流刚刚发展,很多理念还没建立,需要的只是熟练工而已,

作者: 雪里蕻小姐    时间: 2009-6-1 21:11

我还是不明白楼上说的"供应链跟金融还是有那么点关系的,何况越来越多的国际物流巨头把目光放在了供应连的另一环资金流上,谁能提供金融服务谁就有可能是最后的赢家"

能不能帮我解释一下,什么样的职位算是这种工作的结合点?

举个例子说明一下,我可能接触这样的职位比较少!


作者: NSR    时间: 2009-6-1 21:33

Quoting:

我还是不明白楼上说的"供应链跟金融还是有那么点关系的,何况越来越多的国际物流巨头把目光放在了供应连的另一环资金流上,谁能提供金融服务谁就有可能是最后的赢家"

能不能帮我解释一下,什么样的职位算是这种工作的结合点?

举个例子说明一下,我可能接触这样的职位比较少!

Typical levers include integrating third-party supplier network into your business system, like what Toyota has done globally. This includes JIT ordering of parts and payment contingent on financial conditions to ensure suppliers are healthy. The American guys are tougher as they like to squeeze suppliers, in other words, increase payable days to reduce working capital

Another area is hedging and risk management. If you were to develop a mega-project that requires thousands of tons of steel, copper, aluminum and other materials, you need to ensure supply delivered on time, on cost and on quality. This requires skills in classical logistics areas of supplier selection, contracting, logistics and inventory management, to classical treasury skills like trading on the commodities market, FX risk control, liquidity management, to controller's skills like transfer pricing, tax management, financial reporting, combined with an understanding of P&C insurance contracts, among others. If you deal with suppliers from Muslim countries requiring financing, you might need to know the basics of Murabaha and other forms of Shariah-compliant contracts

Although at this moment, when I choose a 3PL or a supplier, I would divide the pieces, evaluating them strictly on operational performance, and engineering the financial parts separately. I'm of the belief that value-added financial services should be secondary to core capabilities of logistics players. But this is one person's view

To reply to your other thread about experience that is highly valued by consulting firms, this is a classical case that may tell you what strategy firms are looking for. It involves a electonrics giant with manufacturing plants all over Asia. It has distribution networks across the world

Would you recommend it to build centralized logistics centers (1 per continent), distribution centers by countries, or other means of distributing its products using third-parties? What methods of shipment and frequency makes sense? What level of inventory should it maintain? If you can provide a practical solution they'll probably give you a chance


作者: simbasl    时间: 2009-6-1 23:17
NSR同志,能不能请你尽可能用中文来回复中文的问题。一般来说,中对中、英对英,有些中文问题实在用中文回答不清,用点英文无妨。但你每次出现,不管前面是中是英,一律英文回应,有点过于做作了吧?
作者: 雪里蕻小姐    时间: 2009-6-3 18:52

我知道NSR同志的意思,他最后提的几个问题给我的思索是,让我弄清想进入这类咨询行业的基本问题是什么.

故意用英文可能是让我知道进入这个行业语言的重要性.

NSR同志基本已经给我解释了这个方面的问题了,另外,您提的几个问题,其实在我们物流行业,我之前的部门就是"solution"啦 !

另外一个问题,我该到什么地方去找这类的咨询公司呢?


作者: Dryfish    时间: 2010-6-11 08:14
呵呵,顶下这个帖子,我也在这个关口,对供应链和金融都敢兴趣
不知道LZ现在怎么样了,进咨询干了没?

还有NSR朋友的帖子,能看出来资历很深呐,也许人家当时的电脑只能打英文也说不定 — —;




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