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作者: syxphoebe    时间: 2009-4-19 18:52
标题: (弱问)OG51--谢谢

51.   The Olympic Games helped to keep peace among the pugnacious states of the Greek world in that a sacred truce was proclaimed during the festival’s month.

(A) world in that a sacred truce was proclaimed during the festival’s month

(B) world, proclaiming a sacred truce during the festival’s month

(C) world when they proclaimed a sacred truce for the festival month----D

(D) world, for a sacred truce was proclaimed during the month of the festival

(E) world by proclamation of a sacred truce that was for the month of the festival

OG解释说“B)
                    
It is not clear who would be doing the
proclaiming, a clause is preferable o a phrase here

分词在句尾,表示伴随结果或伴随状态,其逻辑主语为前面整个句子或主句主语。因为这里,逻辑上The Olympic Games 和 states 都可以发出proclaiming这个动作。因为这个。所以B说指代不清吗?


作者: enrique1313    时间: 2009-4-19 19:49

,doing。。。这个分词不能修饰主句主语的!


作者: syxphoebe    时间: 2009-4-19 19:53
那请问为什么是ambiguous呢?不太理解。。。
作者: 飞不高    时间: 2009-4-19 20:37
以下是引用syxphoebe在2009-4-19 18:52:00的发言:

51.   The Olympic Games helped to keep peace among the pugnacious states of the Greek world in that a sacred truce was proclaimed during the festival’s month.

(A) world in that a sacred truce was proclaimed during the festival’s month

(B) world, proclaiming a sacred truce during the festival’s month

(C) world when they proclaimed a sacred truce for the festival month----D

(D) world, for a sacred truce was proclaimed during the month of the festival

(E) world by proclamation of a sacred truce that was for the month of the festival

OG解释说“B)
     
It is not clear who would be doing the
proclaiming, a clause is preferable o a phrase here

分词在句尾,表示伴随结果或伴随状态,其逻辑主语为前面整个句子或主句主语。因为这里,逻辑上The Olympic Games 和 states 都可以发出proclaiming这个动作。因为这个。所以B说指代不清吗?

个人觉得:

原句用了“in that”,所以,想表达的意思是,因为宣布了truce,所以带来了和平。

如果变成分词结构,那么就有两种解释:

1、宣布truce,同时带来了和平(伴随);

2、带来和平,结果宣布了truce(结果),再比如he ate two hamburgers, making him full;

ambiguous在这里.


作者: LWfighting    时间: 2009-4-19 21:35
以下是引用飞不高在2009-4-19 20:37:00的发言:

个人觉得:

原句用了“in that”,所以,想表达的意思是,因为宣布了truce,所以带来了和平。

如果变成分词结构,那么就有两种解释:

1、宣布truce,同时带来了和平(伴随);

2、带来和平,结果宣布了truce(结果),再比如he ate two hamburgers, making him full;

ambiguous在这里.

恩 我挺赞同这个解释的

并且 我觉得吧 SC题里面还是~~逻辑至上 遵循原文 简洁有效~~

我们应当首先看看原句表达什么意思 虽然in that 过分formal现在很少用了,但是至少表明了出题者(或者说原句)是想表达一个因果关系,所以我们看看其它选项里面有没有关于因果的更好的表达~所以 其他没有因果关系词的都算是部分扭曲了原句想表达的意思吧

呵呵 一家之见 请指正咯~!!!


作者: syxphoebe    时间: 2009-4-19 23:50
以下是引用飞不高在2009-4-19 20:37:00的发言:

个人觉得:

原句用了“in that”,所以,想表达的意思是,因为宣布了truce,所以带来了和平。

如果变成分词结构,那么就有两种解释:

1、宣布truce,同时带来了和平(伴随);

2、带来和平,结果宣布了truce(结果),再比如he ate two hamburgers, making him full;

ambiguous在这里.

加上

“我们应当首先看看原句表达什么意思 虽然in that 过分formal现在很少用了,但是至少表明了出题者(或者说原句)是想表达一个因果关系,所以我们看看其它选项里面有没有关于因果的更好的表达~所以 其他没有因果关系词的都算是部分扭曲了原句想表达的意思吧”

我想。这两个已经解释的很清楚了。O(∩_∩)O谢谢两位。


作者: 飞不高    时间: 2009-4-23 12:40

……大全里面,这道题的答案是C

……


作者: AlienX    时间: 2009-4-23 13:01
either 大全給錯答案 or LS看錯 ;-)

作者: 飞不高    时间: 2009-4-23 16:03

12.   The Olympic Games helped to keep peace among the pugnacious states of the Greek world in that a sacred truce was proclaimed during the festival’s month.

(A) world in that a sacred truce was proclaimed during the festival’s month

(B) world, proclaiming a sacred truce during the festival’s month

(C) world when they proclaimed a sacred truce for the festival month

(D) world, for a sacred truce was proclaimed during the month of the festivalC

(E) world by proclamation of a sacred truce that was for the month of the festival

794, sec19-12

OG-11th的答案是D

 

This sentence depends on using the correct conjunction to join two independent clauses. In that is a conjunction that means inasmuch as; because in that has largely gone out of use, it is considered stilted and overly formal. It also uses two words when one would do. In this sentence, the second clause explains the first one, so the conjunction for; meaning because, is the most appropriate choice for joining the tow independent clauses of the compound sentence.

 

A. In that is stilted and overly formal

B. It is not clear who would be doing the proclaiming; a clause is preferable to a phase here

C. They is ambiguous, possibly referring to either the states or the Games

D. Correct. In this sentence, the conjunction for joins the two clauses correctly and economically

E Wordy and awkward construction

 

原来的注释有错:(Gmat一般不必用到常识来解,就题论题)

根据常识, Olympic Games sacred truce 之后

a, proclaimed during

b, proclaiming a sacred truce during

d, proclaimed during

所以都错,E太啰嗦,且by proclamation 容易产生没有合适逻辑主语的意味。可选出CC中的they不会产生歧义, proclaimsign truce的主语一定是nations, states cities等可交战的双方,Olympic Games 是不可能proclaimsign truce的。

(A) 被动,动作发起者不明
            

(B) The Olympic Games proclaiming
            

(C) besttheythe pugnacious states
            

(D) 被动,动作发起者不明
            

(E) by proclamation of , 即便改成by proclaiming 也不对

根据历史背景。proclaim这里不能和during festivalsmonth连在一起,因为这样意思就变为:在奥运会期间做了这么个停火声明,而实际我们知道是为了奥运会才停火,这个声明应该在奥运会之前。所以A,B,D马上可以排出,E明显错。

以上为大全的注释。根据常识,貌似确实只有c对,但常识……


作者: syxphoebe    时间: 2009-5-18 03:43

再看这题又糊涂了。。。

理解 飞不高 MM 所说的ambiguous所在

可是OG上写的是不明确谁是proclaiming的动作发出者啊

如果是 飞不高MM 所讲的 完全可以写ambiguous啊 为什么这里OG用的是it is not clear who...呢?

所以我仍然坚持我再1楼的意见

望指正!


作者: AlienX    时间: 2009-5-18 14:29
邏輯上The Olympic Games不會proclaiming a sacred truce during the festival’s month
而且proclaiming a sacred truce during the festival’s month也不可能是The Olympic Games helped to keep peace among the pugnacious states of the Greek world的隨伴結果.
所以B不可能對.
我們不知道是誰proclaiming a sacred truce, 可是B像在說是The Olympic Games在proclaiming a sacred truce, 所以OG說it is unclear who is proclaiming.
也因為這樣correct choice D用了被動(因為不知道誰在proclaim)

作者: syxphoebe    时间: 2009-5-18 18:46

谢谢AlienX 斑斑

也就是说这里在语法上 The Olympic Games 是 proclaiming的动作发出者 但是逻辑上应该是states 所

以OG才说 it is not clear who...

还想请问 是不是可以推测在大部分的句子里 原文的从主句间的逻辑关系一般是正确的 就像此题 只有for 才可以表现出因果关系 所以 就可以直接选择D。 只有在极少数情况下,原文的逻辑关系不正确。此时,在选项中均有相应连词或者转折词的变化。记得大全有一道这样的题目。选项中有although,while,but等不同的词。这个时侯。我们要判断原文的关系是否正确。

谢谢


作者: AlienX    时间: 2009-5-18 23:16
umm...不是, proclaiming的动作发出者應該是某人, 可是句子沒說是誰, 這也是為什麼correct choice D用了被動(因為不知道誰在proclaim)
作者: winow    时间: 2010-9-12 12:02
51.   The Olympic Games helped to keep peace among the pugnacious states of the Greek world in that a sacred truce was proclaimed during the festival’s month.

(A) world in that a sacred truce was proclaimed during the festival’s month

(B) world, proclaiming a sacred truce during the festival’s month

(C) world when they proclaimed a sacred truce for the festival month

(D) world, for a sacred truce was proclaimed during the month of the festival

(E) world by proclamation of a sacred truce that was for the month of the festival

----D

问题1:为什么不选A呢,in that 不如 for 么??

问题2:D为什么对,为啥要加逗号,这不是run-on 么?
作者: lu80    时间: 2010-9-16 23:39
根据OG解释in that (意思等于insomuch as)已经不用,所以用for代替;

根据OG解释for是连词,所以可以用句子1,for句子2。




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