终于要发这个帖子了，不能免俗也要重申毫无炫耀之意 - 我自己看来今年的申请是比较失败的，申了太多同一档次的学校
现在Chicago和Haas还在WL，会争取，但估计希望不大了
背景：Tier2 Business Consulting 4 years, G760T108, 国内Tier2工程类本科和小硕, GPA3.7
1. Tuck, 1/6 scholarship
2. Duke, 1/6 scholarship
3. Ross, no scholarhsip
4. UCLA, no sholarship
目前这一刻想的以后方向是（排名分先后）：
1. Tier1 咨询，美国或其他国外地方（新加坡、香港、欧洲），假设经济两年后没有明显恢复，同时假设自己的consulting经验能够有所帮助
2. General Management in industry， 国外，主要是想没有咨询那么累，但忧心薪水
3. Finance，美国、香港或新加坡，自己目前没有任何finance经验，不清楚是不是会在MBA中有所改变，但忧心两年后finance仍然象现在那么糟
4. 回国发展，例如回原来的咨询公司，但这样做的话机会成本显得蛮大的，也忧心薪水
还有一些考虑因素：
Tuck比较担心地点寒冷以及物价高，另外传统白人文化也担心较难适应。去过visit
UCLA气候好，物价也高，但LP在那边有亲戚，可能能帮忙干点活，有点收入。去过visit
Duke物价便宜，但地点的确比较小镇。去过visit
Ross工业城市附近，没去过visit
Tuck. Reasons:
1. It's a general management school, which fits with your goal in consulting.
2. The Tuck and Dartmouth brand names are super strong in the US . They will follow you for a lifetime.
3. Tuck alumni are much more willing to help than those of other schools, according to current b-schoolers.
Tuck. Reasons:
1. It's a general management school, which fits with your goal in consulting.
2. The Tuck and Dartmouth brand names are super strong in the US . They will follow you for a lifetime.
3. Tuck alumni are much more willing to help than those of other schools, according to current b-schoolers.
竟然有这等事情？！是指来中国的面试官吗？
我是去campus面试的，感觉很友善很认真啊，不过时间比较短就是了
Speaking from someone who grew up in the US, I would definitely take Tuck. Tuck is a great general management school. It is borderline tier 1A in the US in terms of reputation. If you are worried about weather, Ann Arbor is NOT warmer. If you are worried about blending in American culture and dealing with racist Americans, I can tell you New England is a better place to be than the midwest (like Michigan, Ohio, Indiana, Wisconsin) and the south. In terms of reputation, UCLA and Duke are clearly inferior to Tuck. You also received scholarship for Tuck. New Hempshire is cheaper than UCLA (great area but very expensive). Durham is a nasty place to live (racist, unsafe, and poor).
我是校友面的
你自己去BW上 Tuck R1（Jan）那个去看吧
Speaking from someone who grew up in the US, I would definitely take Tuck. Tuck is a great general management school. It is borderline tier 1A in the US in terms of reputation. If you are worried about weather, Ann Arbor is NOT warmer. If you are worried about blending in American culture and dealing with racist Americans, I can tell you New England is a better place to be than the midwest (like Michigan, Ohio, Indiana, Wisconsin) and the south. In terms of reputation, UCLA and Duke are clearly inferior to Tuck. You also received scholarship for Tuck. New Hempshire is cheaper than UCLA (great area but very expensive). Durham is a nasty place to live (racist, unsafe, and poor).
Thanks a lot! Your points are very helpful.
Now I tend to choose Tuck. Unfortunately Tuck seems cannot guarantee a non-consigner loan by now and it is critical to me.
On the other side, do you think that studying in Tuck will have some disadvantages for working outside the US? I have not made up my mind about future location, and surely it will be changed during my study period. I'm think that working in Asia or Euro is another choice. But I heard that Tuck's reputation is mainly within the states. That's another main concern of mine.
还用考虑吗？
当然选tuck啦，我的dream school啊。
ps lz真牛啊
还用考虑吗？
当然选tuck啦，我的dream school啊。
ps lz真牛啊
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貌似tuck在国内知名度也一般阿
duke的国内知名度倒是好些吧
也许分圈内圈外吧，可能国内的某些圈子也认可tuck比duke好呢
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貌似tuck在国内知名度也一般阿
duke的国内知名度倒是好些吧
也许分圈内圈外吧，可能国内的某些圈子也认可tuck比duke好呢
这正是我的担心之一啊， tuck在非美国本土似乎名气很不够？
这正是我的担心之一啊， tuck在非美国本土似乎名气很不够？
有曾子墨,虽然貌似是达茅本科, 给国内带来些知名度.如果在美国,确实是非常好的,不过我老板前几天确实跟我说过那边白人精英文化未必适合亚洲人. 我的面试官也说校友圈在中国很有限.
Ross的亚洲氛围可能是前十里最好的,校友圈子也是最大的. Duke的长处之一是health care,感觉实力上要比Ross弱,但环境好,听说是绿森林包围的学校?
I am not sure which school you should ultimately choose, but I am CERTAIN that most “facts” listed by previous posts are quite inaccurate and misleading.
If I were you, I would seriously consider between Ross and Tuck. To my knowledge, Anderson and Fuqua have never ever been known as general management schools. You may call them finance schools or whatever, but general management school? They are not even close. The beautiful part of Tuck is its overall reputation, and finance probably. In the good old days, everybody got into the b-school to do with finance, and you cannot really rule out that possibility even the market is as horrible as right now. You may well change in your mind at a later point, and Tuck offers you better chance if you do. I really love Ross’s MBA program and I think the MAP is out of this world. Their general management has been what they are famous for, and the consulting is very decent. However, you should always bear in mind that all these facts are arguably built upon the diminished glory of the
如果从reputation in the US来讲,Tuck无疑是最佳的选择。
如果考虑到就业问题，我建议楼主向学校所要Chinese alumni的job placement report（不是那种简单的统计，而是具体到公司名称和职务）只是不知道学校是否会提供。
通过这些数据，你可以很清楚地有一个big picture of Chinese alumni network，相信可以有效地帮助LZ做出决定。
（PS.幸好我申请的学校基本上拉开了档次，不用揪结了^_^)
I am not sure which school you should ultimately choose, but I am CERTAIN that most “facts” listed by previous posts are quite inaccurate and misleading.
If I were you, I would seriously consider between Ross and Tuck. To my knowledge, Anderson and Fuqua have never ever been known as general management schools. You may call them finance schools or whatever, but general management school? They are not even close. The beautiful part of Tuck is its overall reputation, and finance probably. In the good old days, everybody got into the b-school to do with finance, and you cannot really rule out that possibility even the market is as horrible as right now. You may well change in your mind at a later point, and Tuck offers you better chance if you do. I really love Ross’s MBA program and I think the MAP is out of this world. Their general management has been what they are famous for, and the consulting is very decent. However, you should always bear in mind that all these facts are arguably built upon the diminished glory of the
明白。所以更为实际的目标，应该是进入M/B/B等Tier1的咨询，但接受被派回国工作的安排？
咨询的确比较适合我的个性及长处，问题是时间久了真的会累，以及有感觉不是真的在做business。更多的是做PPT和presentation而已。。。
如果我专注于第二目标，即希望能留在国外进入行业做general management，Tuck会不会也是比较合适的选择？
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I really don't know about loan situations. But if you could, you should try everything to go to Tuck. Tuck has strong placements in consulting and finance. It is also a reputable Ivy League School (Dartmouth) with a strong and close-knit alumni community. Michigan can have a decent alumni base (and Chinese alumni base) since it also has a large and solid undergraduate program. I would completely cross out Anderson. Duke's location is a huge disadvantage and some have argued that the program has slipped in the last 10 years (this comes from my older colleagues with MBA's). Darden is another program to see its reputation and quality slip in the past 10 years. Duke and UVA accepted over 45% of its applicants around 2006. That is just one piece of data to reflect people's view.
There are 3 ranking services that I respect- USNEWS and Business Week for US rankings and Financial Times for global rankings. The latest Financial Times ranking puts Tuck at #15, Fuqua at 28, Anderson at 25, and Ross at 27. This is just one set of rankings but it should reflect global reputation to some extent.
I think you should not (and won't be effective to) look for employment in Europe if you are attending a US based Business School. I cannot speak for Tuck's reputation in China, I think the other members on this blog can take care of that.感谢你的信息。没错，当初申请Ross时考虑的就是我自己原来的背景，以及将来有可能回到industry的意愿
说真的，在consulting工作的人，我感觉除了一小部分是自始至终希望在consulting做到partner那种之外，大部分人或多或少都有在将来某个时段回到industry的想法～～一方面是consulting太累，加上常年出差无法跟家人一起（这点很重要，别小看了，大家都是人。。。），另一方面的确consulting很多时候无法实现具体的business idea的落实，这点有时候也很折磨人。
但的确也很多人回到industry不久后又回consulting了，除了薪水外，工作方式的格格不入也是一点。
我现在属于有这个打算，但没有明确时间表那种。因为经济基础还没扎实，另外想法也属于不成熟，不清晰自己究竟要什么。
但有一点有疑问：您说Tuck主要做finance，这跟我收集的信息不大吻合。Tuck无疑属于东部圈子，finance很多是确实，但据我了解做consulting以及其他的也不少？综合来说应该还是比较不是很单一的学校吧？
望指点。谢谢
Tuck给我的数据是08毕业生finance+consulting是64%，09的internship是69%，也就是还有接近三分一会进入industry或者non-profit？（正常年份）
还在打听2010的internship数据，另外据一个小道消息，目前tuck今年毕业拿到offer的在50%～60%
这个数据如何？
不知罗斯的情况如何
正常年份吧？
提供意见的大部分都是在申请的或者在读的，对你的适用度打者。
作为一个过来人，我建议你确定能promote就promote先，然后要求defer Tuck,明年再同时申请M3,这样你毕业的起点比别人高，直接毕业就做industry director level都有可能。
学校还是能去多好就去多好，这个东西几百年几千年都不容易改变的。
正常年份吧？
2008
不管LZ怎么选，都很棒的学校了
恭喜了...个人感觉Tuck， UCLA可以优先考虑真的...
楼主的标准一条一条看下来除了最后一条其他都绝对是Tuck！
loan也搞定了，虽然利息奇高（反正等于国内的高利贷了）
看看第二年能不能问别人借点钱不贷款
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