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作者: Howto    时间: 2009-2-28 23:50
标题: 新prep1-190

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The thirteen original British colonies in North America, some formed as commercial ventures, others as religious havens, each had a written charter that set forth its form of government and the rights of the colonists.

A. some formed as commercial ventures, others as religious havens, each had a written charter

B. some being formed as a commercial venture, others as religious havens, all of which had written charters

C. some that formed as commercial ventures, others as religious havens, all had written charters

D. with some being formed as a commercial venture, others as religious havens, all had a written charter

E. with some formed as commercial ventures, while others as religious havens, each had a written charter

这题正确答案 A。我选E。 不知道为什么没有A好 请指教。


作者: sophia417    时间: 2009-3-1 15:08

while+v-ing/句子,E很明显是错误的。


作者: balabaladou7    时间: 2009-3-3 10:48
以下是引用sophia417在2009-3-1 15:08:00的发言:

while+v-ing/句子,E很明显是错误的。

while的用法远不局限于此。

while 可以表示对比或转折,意为"而;然而"。此时,while一般位于句中。如:

Some people waste food while others haven't enough.有些人浪费粮食,然而有些人却吃不饱。

哪位可以讲一下A\E吗?看不出明显的错误。

谢谢。


作者: 天蝎座1107    时间: 2009-3-3 14:30
以下是引用Howto在2009-2-28 23:50:00的发言:

190.
   
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The thirteen original British colonies in North America, some formed as commercial ventures, others as religious havens, each had a written charter that set forth its form of government and the rights of the colonists.

A. some formed as commercial ventures, others as religious havens, each had a written charter

B. some being formed as a commercial venture, others as religious havens, all of which had written charters

C. some that formed as commercial ventures, others as religious havens, all had written charters

D. with some being formed as a commercial venture, others as religious havens, all had a written charter

E. with some formed as commercial ventures, while others as religious havens, each had a written charter

这题正确答案 A。我选E。 不知道为什么没有A好 请指教。

我觉得这个题要看some和others描述的两种情况有没有"转折"意味。some和others只是the thirteen orginal Brititsh colonies的同位语,描述了这些colonies中一部分是什么情况,另一部分是什么情况,但并没有强调commercial ventures和religous havens是两种对立的情况,不需要加一个转折语气。就像在考虑...and...是否需要把and改成but。而且原文本来是some与others做colonies的同位语,为什么要改成with的独立主格结构?我觉得是忠实原句意思吧,改了结构,句子重心是有改变的。同位语大家地位是一样的,但是独立主格的短语那就是较次要地位了吧。

我记得prep320中经常有无故加了while和with的题,还有突然加了when的选项,未必是错误选项,但是每次都不好选。

很想开个新prep的讨论贴,大家一道一道题一起来讨论,不知大家意见如何?


作者: fighting127    时间: 2009-3-3 14:41

还一个地方  补充一点

如果选E会造成 while others as religious havens, each had a written charter是一个部分的可能

不过E从什么角度想都不怎么好


作者: balabaladou7    时间: 2009-3-3 15:49
以下是引用天蝎座1107在2009-3-3 14:30:00的发言:

我觉得这个题要看some和others描述的两种情况有没有"转折"意味。some和others只是the thirteen orginal Brititsh colonies的同位语,描述了这些colonies中一部分是什么情况,另一部分是什么情况,但并没有强调commercial ventures和religous havens是两种对立的情况,不需要加一个转折语气。就像在考虑...and...是否需要把and改成but。而且原文本来是some与others做colonies的同位语,为什么要改成with的独立主格结构?我觉得是忠实原句意思吧,改了结构,句子重心是有改变的。同位语大家地位是一样的,但是独立主格的短语那就是较次要地位了吧。

我记得prep320中经常有无故加了while和with的题,还有突然加了when的选项,未必是错误选项,但是每次都不好选。

很想开个新prep的讨论贴,大家一道一道题一起来讨论,不知大家意见如何?

天蝎座MM说的太棒了!从来没有如此深刻体会while的语气问题,以至于都没有感觉到问题的存在。MM说的一针见血。

根据你的启示,我也查找了PREP 320的相关题目,原来的题目确实有考过类似的问题,但感觉都不像这个题这么明显。

PREP 1-33\111\124\130  while

PREP 2-43\81(不是考点)\94(with的例子极相似)\102

小结一下E的问题:

1)while的转折意味改变了原句的简单并列含义,属多余。

2) with 增加,使得与主语并列的同位语 some...others...变成了主语的修饰部分,也就是将本来松散的同位关系变成了紧密的。不可取。

谢谢并请指教。


作者: 天蝎座1107    时间: 2009-3-3 17:11
标题: 有道理
以下是引用fighting127在2009-3-3 14:41:00的发言:

还一个地方  补充一点

如果选E会造成 while others as religious havens, each had a written charter是一个部分的可能

不过E从什么角度想都不怎么好

恩,fighting127MM这么一说我才发现,E会让人误解是while另开了一个句子一样.

感觉fighting127MM的语法很好


作者: 天蝎座1107    时间: 2009-3-3 17:16
以下是引用balabaladou7在2009-3-3 15:49:00的发言:

天蝎座MM说的太棒了!从来没有如此深刻体会while的语气问题,以至于都没有感觉到问题的存在。MM说的一针见血。

根据你的启示,我也查找了PREP 320的相关题目,原来的题目确实有考过类似的问题,但感觉都不像这个题这么明显。

PREP 1-33\111\124\130  while

PREP 2-43\81(不是考点)\94(with的例子极相似)\102

小结一下E的问题:

1)while的转折意味改变了原句的简单并列含义,属多余。

2) with 增加,使得与主语并列的同位语 some...others...变成了主语的修饰部分,也就是将本来松散的同位关系变成了紧密的。不可取。

谢谢并请指教。

谢谢MM夸奖!我2月考试SC考的特别不好,现在正找原因呢,也许4月再战。我也是记得prep320中前辈总结的有无故加while,with,when的选项,反正是看到了就要小心了,也不能说是完全错那种,比较来比较去,以逻辑意思和句子重心为主了。貌似是要忠实原句意义。还有的时候原句用现在完成时,有的错误选项在没有明显时间标志的情况下把人家原句的现在完成时改成一般过去时;或者无明显时间标志的情况下无故加了had变成过去完成时。貌似都是不忠实原句意义。

我实战的时候第一道SC花了6分钟,也是实战紧张吧,可抑郁了...


作者: songlovegt    时间: 2009-3-9 05:36
while 的问题还在于省略问题,如果主语谓语相同可以省略,主谓同留同省。
这里虽然是with 引导的介词短语,也应该有逻辑主语和谓语问题。逻辑主语既不同,又省略了逻辑谓语,省略得太没道理了吧。应该补出 while others formed as religious havens
作者: cuity    时间: 2009-3-26 09:20
以下是引用songlovegt在2009-3-9 5:36:00的发言:
while 的问题还在于省略问题,如果主语谓语相同可以省略,主谓同留同省。
这里虽然是with 引导的介词短语,也应该有逻辑主语和谓语问题。逻辑主语既不同,又省略了逻辑谓语,省略得太没道理了吧。应该补出 while others formed as religious havens

赞成楼上说的,这里while应该是做conj,表然而,对比两件事情吧,而不是像‘We are teachers while
            
serving as students’中做时间状语省略主谓

大家来讨论~啊


作者: newjoshkao    时间: 2009-4-29 17:44
以下是引用天蝎座1107在2009-3-3 14:30:00的发言:

我觉得这个题要看some和others描述的两种情况有没有"转折"意味。some和others只是the thirteen orginal Brititsh colonies的同位语,描述了这些colonies中一部分是什么情况,另一部分是什么情况,但并没有强调commercial ventures和religous havens是两种对立的情况,不需要加一个转折语气。就像在考虑...and...是否需要把and改成but。而且原文本来是some与others做colonies的同位语,为什么要改成with的独立主格结构?我觉得是忠实原句意思吧,改了结构,句子重心是有改变的。同位语大家地位是一样的,但是独立主格的短语那就是较次要地位了吧。

我记得prep320中经常有无故加了while和with的题,还有突然加了when的选项,未必是错误选项,但是每次都不好选。

很想开个新prep的讨论贴,大家一道一道题一起来讨论,不知大家意见如何?

顶~豁然开朗

190.
      
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190.
      
(26333-!-item-!-188;#058&001956) 代名词与先行词数量一致、简洁、同位语、切勿改变原句句意、修饰语错误修饰

The thirteen original British colonies in North America, some formed as commercial ventures, others as religious havens, each had a written charter that set forth its form of government and the rights of the colonists.

A. some formedsome of which were formed 简化的分词短语    作同位语用)
    
as commercial ventures, others as religious havens, each had a written charter

B. some being(累赘) formed as a commercial venture, others as religious havens, all of which(与its数量不一致) had written charters

C. some that(赘) formed as commercial ventures, others as religious havens, all had written charters

D. with some being(赘) formed as a commercial venture, others as religious havens, all(与its数量不一致) had a written charterwith 增加,使得与主语并列的同位语   some...others...变成了主语的修饰部分,也就是将本来松散的同位关系变成了紧密的。不可取

E. with同上some formed as commercial ventures, while others as religious havens, each had a written charterwhile的转折意味改变了原句的简单并列含义,属多余。且会造成while之后一直到each又是另一个独立的子句的歧异,让人以为each讲得是while里面的东西à修饰语的歧异


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作者: Teddy99    时间: 2009-5-13 05:40

        some formed as commercial ventures, 是一个句子吗? form是谓语?
如果是句子,那么和each had a written charter(也是一个句子)之间为何没有任何连词?
谢谢



作者: AlienX    时间: 2009-5-13 11:11
some formed as commercial ventures不是句子, 是獨立主格

作者: 软磨硬泡    时间: 2009-12-30 07:46
请看下面蓝字部分,是我的一点疑惑,请大家指教,谢谢!!


A. some formedsome of which were formed 简化的分词短语    作同位语用)
   as commercial ventures, others as religious havens, each had a written charter
 



some formed as commercial ventures, 是独立主格吗?因为如是分词短语,其主语应与主句相同。



D. with some being(赘) formed as a commercial venture, others as religious havens, all(与its数量不一致) had a written charterwith 增加,使得与主语并列的同位语   some...others...变成了主语的修饰部分,也就是将本来松散的同位关系变成了紧密的。不可取)

加上with后,应该还是独立主格结构吧?有时独立主格中的with 是可以省略的,就如同答案A,所以我认为这个选项的主要错误在于加了BEING,形成被动的意思。当然感觉加了with后,意思也变了,具体的意思我也说不清,只是感觉。
作者: eswee    时间: 2010-6-6 14:35
好像没人的看法跟我一样. 我觉得如果加了with, 其表达的意思好像是说'随之而来的'.  而不是refer主语本身.  而根据意思这个明显是同位语, 所以加with意思就错了!
作者: qingqian    时间: 2010-8-20 14:36
我想问一下,

“some formed as commercial ventures”与“ others as religious havens”在句子结构中都是同位语的作用吗?同位语之间的连接不需要用and吗?请教达人!谢谢~~




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