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作者: celiachen 时间: 2009-2-1 11:25
标题: prep sc1 186 and 190

186.
(31792-!-item-!-188;#058&006164)

Laos has a land area
about the same as Great Britain but only 4 million in population, where many are members of hill tribes ensconced in the virtually inaccessible mountain valleys of the north.

A. about the same as Great Britain but only 4 million in population, where many

B. of about the same size as Great Britain(‘s) is, but in Laos there is a population of only 4 million, and many

C. that is about the same size as Great Britain's land area, but in Laos with a population of only 4 million people, many of them
啰嗦

D. comparable to the size of Great Britain, but only 4 million in population, and many

size和area不可比

E. comparable to that of Great Britain but a population of only 4 million people, many of whom
这里that指代的是area

请问C为什么错，E为什么好

190.
(26333-!-item-!-188;#058&001956)

The thirteen original British colonies in North America, some formed as commercial ventures, others as religious havens, each had a written charter that set forth its form of government and the rights of the colonists.

A. some formed as commercial ventures, others as religious havens, each had a written charter

B. some being formed as a commercial venture, others as religious havens, all of which had written charters

C. some that formed as commercial ventures, others as religious havens, all had written charters

D. with some being formed as a commercial venture, others as religious havens, all had a written charter

E. with some formed as commercial ventures, while others as religious havens, each had a written charter

E选项为什么错了？

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作者: ElisaWang 时间: 2009-2-1 13:57

1. C. that is about the same size as Great Britain's land area （比较不对称the same size as GB's land area，去掉size或land area 多余), but in Laos with a population of only 4 million people(people或a population of 去其一，population已经有people的意思）, many of them(这个我不是很确定但感觉them改成whom更好,避免run-on sentence)

2. E. with some formed as commercial ventures, while others as religious havens, each had a written charter

我做的时候是这样排出的-some...,others...固定搭配，中间无需while，感觉with也有问题，但还没有找到理论根据，盼望牛牛解答！

作者: celiachen 时间: 2009-2-1 15:23

谢谢，Elisa MM

Disagree：186中 (1)“population和people重复”吗？可是E选项正确，也是a population of only 4 million people

(2)that（=land area）is about the same size as Great Britain's land area ,我觉得比较是对等的

Pending：(1)186中的， many of them 是不是必须改成 many of whom；)“population和people重复”吗？

(2) 190, E选项的合理理由

斑竹呀，牛牛呀，你们快出来吧！

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作者: aeoluseros 时间: 2009-2-1 17:17

186：size和area是可以比的，因为area有面积的意思.
但是不能像A里面那样说两个area是the same,而要用equal或者comparable来表达数值上的对等，而不是地域或其他方面上的对等.另外A里面，where无所指。
C里面没有必要用定从，用形容词短语就可以，更加简洁，而且意思没减少.with短语做状语修饰many of them不合理.
population和people一个是"数量",一个人人群，重心不同，不重复.

190：E里面with多余.some...others...的短语使用错误.

作者: celiachen 时间: 2009-2-1 17:55

以下是引用aeoluseros在2009-2-1 17:17:00的发言：

190：E里面with多余.some...others...的短语使用错误.

Agree： 186题，C选项中，

（1）关于是of them 还是of whom：but是一个连词，需要后面是一个完整的句子，如果"many of whom"是对的话，那么，“but”后面的就是一个短语了，所以这里用 many of them 是合理的。这里可以参考OG11黄皮89

89、Presenters at the seminar, one who is blind, will demonstrate adaptive equipment that allows visually impaired people to use computers.

(A) one who

(B) one of them who

(C) and one of them who

(D) one of whom

(E) one of which

答案D， one of whom is blind不是一个clause

（2）同意aeoluseros 斑竹的说法， “but in Laos with a population of only 4 million people, many of them”中“with a population of only 4 million people”做为many of them的伴随状语，逻辑不通，而且还有相互引用的问题

Pendding：“190：E里面with多余.some...others...的短语使用错误”？可是选项都是some ..others...

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作者: aeoluseros 时间: 2009-2-1 21:29

Pendding：“190：E里面with多余.some...others...的短语使用错误.”？可是没有选项都是some ..others...

umm...是指中间不必有while，累赘.

作者: aeoluseros 时间: 2009-2-1 21:31

one of whom is blind

应看做是一种特殊的非限定性定从.

作者: sjjay 时间: 2009-2-2 00:56

以下是引用celiachen在2009-2-1 17:55:00的发言：

Agree： 186题，C选项中，

89、Presenters at the seminar, one who is blind, will demonstrate adaptive equipment that allows visually impaired people to use computers.

(A) one who

(B) one of them who

(C) and one of them who

(D) one of whom

(E) one of which

答案D， one of whom is blind不是一个clause

Pendding：“190：E里面with多余.some...others...的短语使用错误”？可是选项都是some ..others...

这里one of whom is blind 确实只能是做非限制性定语修饰seminar，而此题情况不太一样，but做连词，后面确实要接句子。

A选项，but后介词短语，加非限定从，错误，且where 关系代词不对。

B选项 a land area of ...表部分概念，改变句意，且and many 后为句子与 but句子用逗号连接错误。

C选项，that is wordy ，but 后为介词短语错误。且many of them 后的句子用逗号连接错误。

D选项同A选项。

E选项but后为a population of only 4 million people,many of whom...此处为并列句的省略结构，全句可以看成Laos has a land area comparable to that of Great Britain but (laos has) a population of only 4 million people, many of whom are members of hill tribes ensconced in the virtually inaccessible mountain valleys of the north.E选项省略了相同的主语和谓语。这里只有E选项能将省略后的内容还原，其他选项不能还原。 many of whom 同样做非限定从修饰people.（比较的逻辑性我没有提，大家都讲得差不多了），这是我关于but后面句子的一点看法，请指点。

190.的E 选项错在，1，添加with，将原文的主要部分改为从属部分，2，强加while 转折，递进连词。总的来说就是改变了句子意思。

作者: AlienX 时间: 2009-2-2 02:40
actually, 190E中的while從句是不完整(當然有時候可以省主謂, 可是不會是190E那樣...)

作者: celiachen 时间: 2009-2-2 11:08

以下是引用AlienX在2009-2-2 2:40:00的发言：
actually, 190E中的while從句是不完整(當然有時候可以省主謂, 可是不會是190E那樣...)

agree：

现在再看190E，就觉得while是错得最刺眼的。

关于while做“比较”时省略的用法

while引导省略式状语从句的条件：a从句主语与主句主语相一致；b从句是系表结构。同时满足以上两个条件之后，省去从句中的主语和系动词

所以我们经常会看到： while doing的出现，否者while后面必须接一个clause，参见OG11黄皮134

134. Recently implemented "shift-work equations" based on studies of the human sleep cycle have reduced sickness, sleeping on the job, fatigue among shift workers, and have raised production efficiency in various industries.

(A) fatigue among shift workers, and have raised

(B) fatigue among shift workers, and raised

(C) and fatigue among shift workers while raising

(D) lowered fatigue among shift workers, and raised

(E) and fatigue among shift workers was lowered while raising

答案E

在190E中，不能用while，而应该改成compaired to ,但是即使词改对了仍然会照成歧义，会理解为修饰前面的commercial ventures

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作者: celiachen 时间: 2009-2-2 11:13

以下是引用sjjay在2009-2-2 0:56:00的发言：

解释得真好，谢谢你sjjay

作者: sjjay 时间: 2009-2-2 16:33

celia MM真客气~我只是提出自己的看法罢了。

作者: aeoluseros 时间: 2009-2-10 09:20
当some...,while others各自连接的分句都没有谓语时，中间的while可省.

作者: snowlemon 时间: 2009-2-15 21:47
我对186的d选项的错误还是不清楚啊
如果size和area是可以比的，那是后面的", but"错了？
如果这里的but都是连词，只是省略了主谓，(laos has) only 4 million in population 也是对的吧？
这个“D选项同A选项。“不太明白哦！
请教nn

作者: snowlemon 时间: 2009-2-15 22:17
ding

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作者: balabaladou7 时间: 2009-3-2 21:50

句子结构为

laos has a land area comparable to that of Great Britain but a population of only 4 million people, many of whom...

A. but 连接前后无对等部分：整句或相应成分。Where无指代。

B. has 和 there is 不对等。Only的位置错，改变原意。Many的出现使句子变成三个分句，意思改变。改变主句的平衡。Many of them 修饰a population of only 4 million
，用法idiomatic.

C. but连接的两部分不平衡，前面是句子，has…; 后面是短语，with…; Many of them 修饰a population of only 4 million
，没有建立前后的修饰关系，也没有连词，使得句子run on.

D. but连接的两部分不平衡, 前面是has+n，后面是4 million in population，造成segment.

E. 正确。but正确连接了两个名词结构，造成平行，many of whom，修饰4 million people，非限定性定语从句避免run-on。

请指正。

作者: lk2356 时间: 2009-4-6 13:08

190.
(26333-!-item-!-188;#058&001956)

A. some formed as commercial ventures, others as religious havens, each had a written charter

E. with some formed as commercial ventures, while others as religious havens, each had a written charter

想再求证一下，关于同志们说的E的with多余问题。

如果没有with，即按A的结构来说，句子的主语是什么呢？

The thirteen original British colonies in North America，和后面的some.. others是什么关系？同位语的关系么？

另外each had是独立主格么？

脑子比较混，忘牛牛赐教！

作者: 瞳ヒトミ 时间: 2009-4-8 21:00

以下是引用lk2356在2009-4-6 13:08:00的发言：

另外each had是独立主格么？

我觉得each是做主语的同位语

但是我还是搞不太清楚E的with到底是什么成份什么？
如果是 with some formed as commercial ventures, others as religious havens, each had a written charter 这样的话，也就是把E的while去掉，这句话还对吗？高手解决一下嘛~~~

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作者: 瞳ヒトミ 时间: 2009-4-8 21:08

以下是引用celiachen在2009-2-2 11:08:00的发言：

agree：

现在再看190E，就觉得while是错得最刺眼的。

关于while做“比较”时省略的用法

while引导省略式状语从句的条件：a从句主语与主句主语相一致；b从句是系表结构。同时满足以上两个条件之后，省去从句中的主语和系动词

69. Although she had signed a pledge of abstinence while being an adolescent. Frances Willard was 35 years old before she chose to become a temperance activist.

(A) while being an adolescent

(B) while in adolescence

(C) at the time of her being adolescent

(D) as being in adolescence

(E) as an adolescent

为什么这里的B不对，新东方上课的时候老师讲，while后面一定要跟句子，但是我觉得Celiachen说的才是对的。可是根据while可以省略的方式，那么这题B也是可以的，但是答案是E

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作者: 2009mba 时间: 2009-4-9 00:48

190.
(26333-!-item-!-188;#058&001956)

A. some formed as commercial ventures, others as religious havens, each had a written charter

SOME..., OTHERS --- 是独立主格？因为formed 可以作为过去分词作修饰

主句是 each had？（each 在这里不是独立主格）each 的独立主格形式= each+名词+名词/形容词/分词/介系词

这题实在是晕菜了。请高手求证！

E. with some formed as commercial ventures, while others as religious havens, each had a written charter

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作者: aeoluseros 时间: 2009-4-9 08:28

以下是引用lk2356在2009-4-6 13:08:00的发言：

190.
(26333-!-item-!-188;#058&001956)

A. some formed as commercial ventures, others as religious havens, each had a written charter

E. with some formed as commercial ventures, while others as religious havens, each had a written charter

想再求证一下，关于同志们说的E的with多余问题。

如果没有with，即按A的结构来说，句子的主语是什么呢？

The thirteen original British colonies in North America，和后面的some.. others是什么关系？同位语的关系么？

另外each had是独立主格么？

脑子比较混，忘牛牛赐教！

关于伴随结构有没有with造成了不同语体(style)色彩，有with的多用于日常会话比较自然，有些地方并不把这种结构称为独立主格，而是成为"with+复合宾语"，而没有with的就成为独立主格了，多用于书面语，含描绘性和文学性.

each had是主语和谓语，同时each作为The thirteen original British colonies in North America的同位语；前面的some...others...是独立主格，独立主格结构中又包含了一个并列的结构。

作者: aeoluseros 时间: 2009-4-9 08:30

以下是引用瞳ヒトミ在2009-4-8 21:08:00的发言：

69. Although she had signed a pledge of abstinence while being an adolescent. Frances Willard was 35 years old before she chose to become a temperance activist.

(A) while being an adolescent

(B) while in adolescence

(C) at the time of her being adolescent

(D) as being in adolescence

(E) as an adolescent

Celiachen说的是状语从句省略的条件.我再补充个白勇里说到的状语从句省略的形式:
状语从句的省略:
a) 正确形式:
表示时间/条件/转折/让步的连词(when/while/if/unless/although/even though/even if) + 形容词短语/-ing短语/-ed短语
b) 错误形式:表示时间/条件/转折的连词 + 介词短语/名词短语
c) 特殊情况nce可以加介词短语/名词短语; whatever可以加名词短语

作者: 瞳ヒトミ 时间: 2009-4-9 09:33

以下是引用aeoluseros在2009-4-9 8:30:00的发言：

谢谢版主~~~

讲的太清楚了~~~ 终于弄懂了，这题，我纠结很久了

作者: songlovegt 时间: 2009-4-12 10:23

186.
(31792-!-item-!-188;#058&006164)

Laos has a land area
about the same as Great Britain but only 4 million in population, where many are members of hill tribes ensconced in the virtually inaccessible mountain valleys of the north.

A. about the same as Great Britain but only 4 million in population, where many

B. of about the same size as Great Britain is, but in Laos there is a population of only 4 million, and many

C. that is about the same size as Great Britain's land area, but in Laos with a population of only 4 million people, many of them

D. comparable to the size of Great Britain, but only 4 million in population, and many

E. comparable to that of Great Britain but a population of only 4 million people, many of whom

解释如下

og12-43

C The reference of them is unclear and the expression is generally awkward.

为啥 them 就指代不清呢？只有一个指代可能性啊 people

另外 og 没提到 with 修饰问题 in Laos with a population of only 4 million people, many of them

with 紧接在 Laos 后面，可以修饰 Laos，不应该出现修饰 many of them 的修饰歧义？

作者: wmcarrie666 时间: 2009-4-12 19:50

pre 186

A land area 和 Great Britain 没有可比性。Where 指代模糊。But前后需要平行

B is 错误，but 前后需要平行

C many of them 应该改为many of whom. but 前后需要平行

D land area和size 无可比性
。but 前后需要平行

E 正确

作者: 天蝎座1107 时间: 2009-4-18 21:56

Laos has a land area about the same as Great Britain but only 4 million in population, where many are members of hill tribes ensconced in the virtually inaccessible mountain valleys of the north.

A. about the same as Great Britain but only 4 million in population, where many错在land area和Great Britain比较 where关系代词错

B. of about the same size as Great Britain is, but in Laos there is a population of only 4 million, and many应该说as that of Great Britain比较合适

C. that is about the same size as Great Britain's land area, but in Laos with a population of only 4 million people, many of them倒是没有设么实质性的语法错误
但是不简洁太臃肿了

D. comparable to the size of Great Britain, but only 4 million in population, and many
but后面没有一个完整的句子
而且在这当作一个插入成分也不对

E. comparable to that of Great Britain but a population of only 4 million people, many of whom是比较合理的句子
Laos has XX but XX,后面定语从句来解释but的内容
本句的重点也在but内容上这里but没有错例如 I don't want apples but pears这里是副词但是D的but不对如果D中but想要做副词那就要去掉前面的逗号如果做连词but后面句子应该完整这几个选项越看E越顺很简洁明了就是 Laos has more A but less B,后面定从来解释B but后面是重点内容句子的重心看看这个句子的意思其实也是想突出（虽然）Laos在土地面积大但是人烟稀少啊，怎么个稀少法，后面定从来补充说明。

作者: 天蝎座1107 时间: 2009-4-18 22:55

190题 E错在with with结构夹在句子中间是会产生歧义的例如A,withXXX,B到底是想说A, withXXX还是想说with XXX,B

其次while没有必要经常有无故加了while错的选项会产生歧义一个是“当。。。时候”还有一个是转折的意思这里都没有比较加while 因为这里没有转折只是陈述两种情况并不是but的关系

作者: monhommebbll 时间: 2009-5-4 21:36

以下是引用2009mba在2009-4-9 0:48:00的发言：

190.
(26333-!-item-!-188;#058&001956)

A. some formed as commercial ventures, others as religious havens, each had a written charter

SOME..., OTHERS --- 是独立主格？因为formed 可以作为过去分词作修饰

主句是 each had？（each 在这里不是独立主格）each 的独立主格形式= each+名词+名词/形容词/分词/介系词

这题实在是晕菜了。请高手求证！

E. with some formed as commercial ventures, while others as religious havens, each had a written charter

some formed....others as.... 这部分到底是做什么呀不太清楚呀同样困惑请斑竹点拨点拨～！！

作者: vivian0331 时间: 2009-5-29 21:29

说实话，这道题我是卡在but上面了。

记得之前做题but是连词，于是就默认如果but连接，后面一定还要出现主语和谓语，其实这种想法是不对的。如果把but和and看作一样的（本来就是一样的吧），and也是可以连接两个名词的，就如这题。见笑！

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作者: vivian0331 时间: 2009-5-29 21:59

以下是引用2009mba在2009-4-9 0:48:00的发言：

190.
(26333-!-item-!-188;#058&001956)

A. some formed as commercial ventures, others as religious havens, each had a written charter

SOME..., OTHERS --- 是独立主格？因为formed 可以作为过去分词作修饰

主句是 each had？（each 在这里不是独立主格）each 的独立主格形式= each+名词+名词/形容词/分词/介系词

这题实在是晕菜了。请高手求证！

E. with some formed as commercial ventures, while others as religious havens, each had a written charter

请问句子结构是什么？我怎么分不清主谓啊？

主语是The thirteen original British colonies in North America, each

谓语是had

宾语是a written charter

是这样理解么？

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作者: AlienX 时间: 2009-5-30 12:44
主语是The thirteen original British colonies in North America
谓语是had
宾语是a written charter

作者: hionekg 时间: 2009-6-13 15:31
为什么C错？

作者: cuishang11 时间: 2009-7-6 22:19

The thirteen original British colonies in North America（, some formed as commercial ventures, others as religious havens, ）each had a written charter that set forth its form of government and the rights of the colonists.

把括号部分去掉就是句子的主干这里each是副词修饰had

相当于“ The students are both good. / They all finished the race." 中both、all的作用

作者: desertroset 时间: 2009-7-16 00:00

回应楼上，未画线的句子主干部分的that指的是thirteen original British colonies吗？这样是不是离得太远了？

而且后面的its form是单数，和thirteen original British colonies不就矛盾了吗？

作者: newport 时间: 2009-7-22 07:30
OG 134 answer is C.

作者: lijiahui0422 时间: 2009-7-25 09:35

190题，我的问题是两个结构相似的插入语之间不需要加连词么？就是说插入语+插入语加逗号就可以了，我怎么觉得加上连词显得很连贯，特别是while,语气很轻的表对比的连词

请指点迷津

作者: moonwalker 时间: 2009-8-2 17:47

186题是OG12的43题，上面关于c的解释是: the reference of them is unclear and the expression is generally awkward.

作者: michelle77 时间: 2009-8-20 21:13

以下是引用aeoluseros在2009/2/1 21:31:00的发言：

one of whom is blind

应看做是一种特殊的非限定性定从.

请问这题为什么不用Ｂ,感觉和186很像

The Acoma and Hopi are probably the two oldest surviving Pueblo communities, both dating back at least a thousand years.

A. both dating

B. both of which have dated

C. and each has dated

D. and each one dating

E. each one of which date

Key A

作者: elevenjy1107 时间: 2009-9-12 14:29
C明显错呀，因为c用逗号连接了两个句子，中间还没有连词，必错！！！

作者: wittyhunter 时间: 2009-9-15 02:10

我的语法不好，弱弱的问一句，这个set不用第三人称单数sets是为什么呢？

作者: emyzhong2009 时间: 2009-9-25 16:04
楼上的同学，set这里是一般过去时。

作者: milichen 时间: 2009-12-22 00:42

以下是引用celiachen在2009-2-1 17:55:00的发言：

Agree： 186题，C选项中，

（1）关于是of them 还是of whom：but是一个连词，需要后面是一个完整的句子，如果"many of whom"是对的话，那么，“but”后面的就是一个短语了，所以这里用 many of them 是合理的。这里可以参考OG11黄皮89

89、Presenters at the seminar, one who is blind, will demonstrate adaptive equipment that allows visually impaired people to use computers.
(A) one who
(B) one of them who
(C) and one of them who
(D) one of whom
(E) one of which
答案D， one of whom is blind不是一个clause

（2）同意aeoluseros 斑竹的说法， “but in Laos with a population of only 4 million people, many of them”中“with a population of only 4 million people”做为many of them的伴随状语，逻辑不通，而且还有相互引用的问题

Pendding：“190：E里面with多余.some...others...的短语使用错误”？可是选项都是some ..others...

这里one of whom is blind 确实只能是做非限制性定语修饰seminar，而此题情况不太一样，but做连词，后面确实要接句子。

A选项，but后介词短语，加非限定从，错误，且where 关系代词不对。

B选项 a land area of ...表部分概念，改变句意，且and many 后为句子与 but句子用逗号连接错误。

C选项，that is wordy ，but 后为介词短语错误。且many of them 后的句子用逗号连接错误。

D选项同A选项。

E选项but后为a population of only 4 million people,many of whom...此处为并列句的省略结构，全句可以看成Laos has a land area comparable to that of Great Britain but (laos has) a population of only 4 million people, many of whom are members of hill tribes ensconced in the virtually inaccessible mountain valleys of the north.E选项省略了相同的主语和谓语。这里只有E选项能将省略后的内容还原，其他选项不能还原。 many of whom 同样做非限定从修饰people.（比较的逻辑性我没有提，大家都讲得差不多了），这是我关于but后面句子的一点看法，请指点。

190.的E 选项错在，1，添加with，将原文的主要部分改为从属部分，2，强加while 转折，递进连词。总的来说就是改变了句子意思。

-- by 会员 sjjay (2009/2/2 0:56:00)

说的好。其实还是并列问题，Laos has a land area... but a population...

作者: milichen 时间: 2009-12-30 21:41
190题还是要看句子意思，E选项表达的逻辑关系不对。

作者: jennifer8841 时间: 2010-1-22 22:59

190题，我的问题是两个结构相似的插入语之间不需要加连词么？就是说插入语+插入语加逗号就可以了，我怎么觉得加上连词显得很连贯，特别是while,语气很轻的表对比的连词

请指点迷津

-- by 会员 lijiahui0422 (2009/7/25 9:35:00)

同上

作者: bestnicole 时间: 2010-1-31 16:41

-- by 会员 lijiahui0422 (2009/7/25 9:35:00)

同上

-- by 会员 jennifer8841 (2010/1/22 22:59:22)

ls多读读就会发现，some和others连接的部分的确是起到列举的作用，从原文中看也没有任何对比或转折的含义，对于GMAT如此抠字，出现while肯定是不对的了。

关于E选项我还有一个想法，就是with的用法。我很赞同之前天蝎座的说法，本处的some&others就是列举的一种用法，就是插入语。如果加上with，那么就有了修饰之前名词的作用。考虑with可以跳跃修饰，虽然可以修饰之前的colonies，但是和句子原意&结构已经有了出入，且some部分加上with同后面的的others也不平行。

欢迎讨论

作者: eye0416 时间: 2010-2-20 19:03
The thirteen original British colonies in North America, some formed as commercial ventures, others as religious havens, each had a written charter that set forth its form of government and the rights of the colonists.

我感觉其中some formed as commercial ventures, others as religious havens,是修饰thirteen colonies的。formed是被动式，其实是colonies are formed as commercial ventures，而在此这个some..., others... 用被动式来修饰colonies才说得过去吧。

作者: hetaotao7 时间: 2010-4-16 15:51
190中独立主格的平行不需要连词吗？
some formed as commercial ventures, others as religious havens,

作者: cdmscf 时间: 2010-8-3 21:12

190中独立主格的平行不需要连词吗？
some formed as commercial ventures, others as religious havens,

-- by 会员 hetaotao7 (2010/4/16 15:51:45)

在这里some...others如果做插入成分的话表示列举，应该是不用连词吧？I have many friends, some are man ,others are women.
纯属浅见

作者: njurenke 时间: 2011-1-3 22:51
PREP2008 190
The thirteen original British colonies in North America, some formed as commercial ventures, others as religious havens, each had a written charter that set forth its form of government and the rights of the colonists.
A.   some formed as commercial ventures, others as religious havens, each had a written charter
B.   some being formed as a commercial venture, others as religious havens, all of which had written charters
C.   some that formed as commercial ventures, others as religious havens, all had written charters
D.   with some being formed as a commercial venture, others as religious havens, all had a written charter
E.   with some formed as commercial ventures, while others as religious havens, each had a written charter
D项，解释说前面主句是主系表， “The thirteen original British colonies in North America”这是主系表吗？

作者: Poodle1223 时间: 2011-1-31 17:56
[quote]
PREP2008 190
The thirteen original British colonies in North America, some formed as commercial ventures, others as religious havens, each had a written charter that set forth its form of government and the rights of the colonists.
A. some formed as commercial ventures, others as religious havens, each had a written charter
B. some being formed as a commercial venture, others as religious havens, all of which had written charters
C. some that formed as commercial ventures, others as religious havens, all had written charters
D. with some being formed as a commercial venture, others as religious havens, all had a written charter
E. with some formed as commercial ventures, while others as religious havens, each had a written charter
D项，解释说前面主句是主系表， “The thirteen original British colonies in North America”这是主系表吗

对啊，同问，这是主系表么？？哪里有系表结构

而且，formed怎么看出来是修饰还是谓语呢。。我第一步过滤出A,E,觉得A 三个动作没有连词就选择E了。

作者: senru819 时间: 2011-8-20 10:25
主语是The thirteen original British colonies in North America
谓语是had
宾语是a written charter

如果是这样子的话，那虽然是each，表现在时态的时候不是得用Have了

作者: 小狮子要发奋 时间: 2011-11-1 09:27
The thirteen original British colonies in North America, some formed as commercial ventures, others as religious havens, each had a written charter that set forth its form of government and the rights of the colonists.
A.   some formed as commercial ventures, others as religious havens, each had a written charter
B.   some being formed as a commercial venture, others as religious havens, all of which had written charters
C.   some that formed as commercial ventures, others as religious havens, all had written charters
D.   with some being formed as a commercial venture, others as religious havens, all had a written charter
E.   with some formed as commercial ventures, while others as religious havens, each had a written charter
整个句子的结构是The thirteen original British colonies each had a written charter
some,others是修饰colonies，但是不明白两个修饰语之间怎么没有连接的词呢
主，修饰语，修饰语，谓斌，这样的结构对吗，manhattan，modifier中说到修饰语，修饰语，主谓宾的结构必错呀，求指导！！！

作者: 小狮子要发奋 时间: 2011-11-1 09:31
接上面的，那个因为its指代的是前面的colony，因此必须用each，从而排除带all的选项，这样想可以吗

作者: ruolanbing 时间: 2013-4-30 12:34
啧啧，讨论的真好~受益良多

作者: yaozaizai 时间: 2013-9-2 23:01
A结构是 The thirteen original...in North America each had a .... “each”是13个英属殖民地的同位语，类似于 we each have a apple这种结构。

作者: vengaleo 时间: 2013-9-10 09:25

以下是引用celiachen在2009-2-2 11:08:00的发言：

[size=1em]agree：
[size=1em]现在再看190E，就觉得while是错得最刺眼的。
[size=1em]关于while做“比较”时省略的用法
[size=1em]while引导省略式状语从句的条件：a从句主语与主句主语相一致；b从句是系表结构。同时满足以上两个条件之后，省去从句中的主语和系动词

[size=1em]69. Although she had signed a pledge of abstinence while being an adolescent. Frances Willard was 35 years old before she chose to become a temperance activist.

[size=1em](A)  while being an adolescent

[size=1em](B) while in adolescence

[size=1em](C)  at the time of her being adolescent

[size=1em](D)  as being in adolescence

[size=1em](E) as an adolescent

[size=1em]为什么这里的B不对，新东方上课的时候老师讲，while后面一定要跟句子，但是我觉得Celiachen说的才是对的。可是根据while可以省略的方式，那么这题B也是可以的，但是答案是E

介宾短语不能以省略的形式出现在从句的先行词后面，这就是B选项的错误。可以出现在先行词后面的有v-ing, v-ed和形容词。

作者: vengaleo 时间: 2013-9-10 09:32

瞳ヒトミ发表于 2009-4-8 21:00
以下是引用lk2356在2009-4-6 13:08:00的发言：另外each had是独立主格么？我觉得each是做主语的同位语但是 ...

我感觉可以用with的独立主格结构，但是如果像你说的那样把while去掉的话，也不对，应该改成：
with some formed as commercial ventures and others as religious havens, each had a written charter
因为如果没有and的话others as religious havens成分就不明确了

作者: vengaleo 时间: 2013-9-10 09:33

wittyhunter 发表于 2009-9-15 02:10
The thirteen original British colonies in North America, some formed as commercial ventures, others ...

过去时吧

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