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作者: 深海的小美人鱼    时间: 2004-2-6 04:55
标题: 大全-III-16
A violin constructed to have improved sound would sound different from the best-sounding existing violins.
To professional violinists, a violin that sounds different from the best-sounding existing violins sounds less like a violin and therefore worse than the best-sounding existing violins.
Professional violinists are the only accepted judges of the sound quality of violins.
Would be the best supported by those statements?
(A) Only amateur violinists should be asked to judge the sound quality of newly constructed violins.
(B) Professional violinists supervise the construction of violins.
(C) The best-sounding existing violins have been in existence fro several centuries.
(D) It is currently impossible to construct a violin that the only accepted judges will evaluate as having improved sound.
(E) It is possible to construct a violin that sounds better than the best-sounding existing violins to everyone but professional violinists.

答案D。死活不明白里面的逻辑是什么。

作者: jediming    时间: 2004-2-6 07:06
标题: reply
试解答如下:

C violin improve sound qualtiy,but different from B-violin
Professional can only judge B violin

==> Professional can not judge C violin and thus can not evluate wheteher C viloion improve the sound quality
        rofessional are the only judges of sound quality

==> So it is currently impossbile to .....
作者: forjoke    时间: 2005-5-29 11:20
改进意味着和现存的好琴声音不同。

大师:不同=不好

大师说什么就是什么。



问结论。

答案:D,想让大师说“好”是不可能的。





0.0000002 cents.




作者: beechanooi    时间: 2005-6-11 07:40

But why E is wrong? It is possible to build a better violin, but because it will be different with the best-exisiting one, the professional violinist would think the new one is not better. However it indeed sounds better than the best-existing one - everyone else could agree it, but the professionals won't.


作者: 番茄笑了    时间: 2005-7-7 00:14
以下是引用beechanooi在2005-6-11 7:40:00的发言:

But why E is wrong? It is possible to build a better violin, but because it will be different with the best-exisiting one, the professional violinist would think the new one is not better. However it indeed sounds better than the best-existing one - everyone else could agree it, but the professionals won't.


不要忘了,文中有一句话,Professional violinists are the only accepted judges of the sound quality of violins.也就是说除了professional violinists别人都没有资格判断是否一个小提琴有better sounds。因而也就不可能 to construct a violin that sounds better than the best-sounding existing violins 如果不是professional violinists说better,就不是better.再说了,原文中根本就没有提到everyone else的意见和对小提琴的评价,你不能根据常识assume他们会和professional violinists 的想法不同,他们的想法也许一样,也许不一样,我们不知道,但绝对不能assume文中没有给的条件,所以E无法support原文!


而D可以!原文中提到对于professional violinists没有improved sound.任何和best-existing one相比不同的,就不如best-existing好!那么也就说明根本不可能造出一个小提琴,professional violinists会评价说它有improved sound.他们只会说好,和best-exisiting一样好,或者不如best-existing好!


虽然这个答案从常识角度来讲有点难接受可是我们必须尊重原文所给的条件来加强!


作者: titatita    时间: 2005-7-20 21:51

b为什么不对?


d中的impossible太绝对了


作者: chrisli    时间: 2005-7-27 22:56

D答案解释:题目赋予专家的权利,有1个最好且不可超越的小提琴。现在当然做不出一个超过它的小提琴了。


作者: v22    时间: 2005-9-1 21:00
虽然明白答案是选D,但是B也有一点道理啊,什么足够的理由去排除B?
作者: 一起加油的夥伴    时间: 2005-11-11 11:27

B選項其實是個陷阱,


因為原文有說Professional violinists are the only accepted judges of the sound quality of violins.


所以不是supervise the construction of violins.
望高手指教


作者: lxzjojo    时间: 2006-10-28 01:26

是酱紫的,偶来说说:

任何“改进”都不同于“最好”

专家说:不同于“最好”就是不像个琴,因而差于“最好”

只有专家有资格判断琴的质量

所以。。。有了这个“最好”,就不可能有别的琴会令专家认为更好了。。。

真是够有奇怪的逻辑。。。


作者: sch    时间: 2008-3-12 03:10
以下是引用深海的小美人鱼在2004-2-6 4:55:00的发言:
A violin constructed to have improved sound would sound different from the best-sounding existing violins.
To professional violinists, a violin that sounds different from the best-sounding existing violins sounds less like a violin and therefore worse than the best-sounding existing violins.
Professional violinists are the only accepted judges of the sound quality of violins.
Would be the best supported by those statements?
(A) Only amateur violinists should be asked to judge the sound quality of newly constructed violins.
(B) Professional violinists supervise the construction of violins.
(C) The best-sounding existing violins have been in existence fro several centuries.
(D) It is currently impossible to construct a violin that the only accepted judges will evaluate as having improved sound.
(E) It is possible to construct a violin that sounds better than the best-sounding existing violins to everyone but professional violinists.

答案D。死活不明白里面的逻辑是什么。

我对这题也有疑惑,首先问法狠怪“Would be the best supported by those statements?”

其次我觉得也不能退出D啊。

原文说:

1,一把被改造过提高过音色的小提琴,将会和目前存在的best-sounding的琴音色不同。

2,对于唯一的评判员--小提琴手,来说,只要音色和目前best-sounding不同的琴,就不像一个琴,就不如这个best-sounding的琴。

D说:目前无法造出一把小提琴手认为已经被提高音色的琴。

我觉得无法推出,理由如下:

假设一把琴X,音色等级是50,还有一把最高等级的琴B,音色标准是100.

我改造X琴,将X琴等级提到到80,难道不就是improved? 虽然他differen with BESTSOUNDING,而且比B琴要差,但是不能因此说他没有提高啊,50-80也是提高啊?

你结论要说,无法造出一把超越目前best sounding的琴,这我承认,但是你说无法造出一把improved的琴,我难以接受。


作者: nancy_127    时间: 2009-10-21 20:58
would sound different from
请教: would 是说一定是和最好的琴不同还是说可能和最好的琴不同?

作者: 五柳    时间: 2009-11-5 14:15
我想了半天,貌似有点头绪。
题目是这样的:为了improved sound 而被改造的小提琴的声音还是和best-sounding小提琴不一样。对于职业琴师来说,不论哪把小提琴,只要它的声音和best-sounding小提琴声音不一样,丫就认为它差。(职业琴师只认best-sounding小提琴,而他又是唯一的小提琴声音的判断人)

C 的选项是说,目前为止是不可能造出一把小提琴能够被职业琴师评估为声音得到改进的。因为他只认识best-sounding小提琴,其他小提琴只要声音和它不一样,它就觉得是差的。比如best-sounding小提琴100,其他小提琴即使从50提高到了80,他只要认定它声音和best-sounding小提琴不一样就是差,哪管你是从50-80,还是50-40,从他听来都是一样的。
作者: 五柳    时间: 2009-11-5 14:18
这样分析的话,E的选项就是错的,只有琴师才有资格评判音色,其他人认为好还是不好没有多大关系,应该就算无关选项了吧
作者: mozhiyu    时间: 2009-11-5 14:48
我想问下 你有逻辑大全的答案吗?能给个链接吗或附件吗?谢谢呢
作者: lijiazhou    时间: 2012-4-6 21:54
这道题让人汗颜啊,就是说大师们只能判断这个琴它和最牛的琴比是否好,但是不能比较这个琴是否Improved,

am I right?
作者: Joey每天要早睡    时间: 2021-6-12 19:49
根據題目來回答

題目中有且只有一個評判標準:大師的評判標準

E中everyone的評判標準不屬於考慮範圍




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