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作者: heslaw    时间: 2008-12-7 03:42
标题: LSE Finance Programmes Q&A

Currently doing MSc Finance, Full time

I guess the thread has generated a significant amount of information on application to LSE Finance department programmes

If your request is not answered by this posting, please send a personal message to me.

My lent term has started on 12th Jan 2009, and i am quite busy at the moment. however, i will make an effort to reply your requests


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作者: hifenyu    时间: 2008-12-7 03:54
There is nothing would be more worthy than job placement info. Can you tell us?

作者: heslaw    时间: 2008-12-7 04:05

据不完全统计,目前course里有offer的大概有25%左右

基本上都是做完internship给的return offer

full time基本不招人吧。目前只有一个Jewish拿到了direct full time offer, cause he speaks Spanish and the company requested that.

小的IB,一般都是只要1-2个

今年不是一般惨哟

2006年的时候,基本人手一个offer,有些有几个offer...those good old days

but thats not the end of story yet

London is a place full of opportunities. You only need to try harder.


作者: Galencomchen    时间: 2008-12-7 05:12

msc of finance好像比较新,跟msc finance&economics比起来。

lz能做一下这两个项目的比较吗,mfe的reputation是不是已经建立起来比较久了?

谢谢


作者: heslaw    时间: 2008-12-7 05:35
以下是引用Galencomchen在2008-12-7 5:12:00的发言:

msc of finance好像比较新,跟msc finance&economics比起来。

lz能做一下这两个项目的比较吗,mfe的reputation是不是已经建立起来比较久了?

谢谢

there are two MSc finance programmes, part time and full time, they are identical, except the part time one will take 2 years to complete. the part time programme has been running for 3 years, while the full time programme is new in 2008

Mfe is more academic, suitable for those who wanna do PhD. The course is a collaboration btw econs department and finance department. class size is about 90. the programme has 10+ years of experience

MSc Finance is more practical and more career oriented. we have practitioner from the City to give lectures occasionally. the course is specifically designed for IBs, so it charges the highest tuition fees in LSE. (They thought the expected return of the class will be high, assuming a normal market condition. of cos, it is clearly not the case now.)

i also realized that LSE MsF if relatively cheaper than MsF from IC, Mfe from Ox, by 2-3k

overall, MsF is competitive. the admission rate for the first cohort is 45/1600, i.e. 2.8%. Most competitive programme after MSc Economics. (Of cos, LSE MSc Economics programme is one of the best in the world. they only take first class honours in Economics, and the programme itself is very hard)


作者: germaineilya    时间: 2008-12-7 06:48
Do you know anyone from your course who got into consulting?
I submitted my application a few days ago, quite nervous...my undergraduate grade isnt great only 2:1, by the time I finish the course I might be able to get 1st class overall but it's more likely to be 2:1...do you know anyone who got in with a 2:1?
thanx!

作者: lance0108    时间: 2008-12-7 07:55
Hi, Heslaw!

I've been thinking about applying for programs that start in fall 2009. I will appreciate it if you can help me with the following questions:

1) What GMAT score do your cohorts have? What are the other backgrounds of them besides finance, science, and engineering?

2) What's the total expense for one year? Is there any financial aid available?

Thanks!

作者: heslaw    时间: 2008-12-7 08:41
以下是引用germaineilya在2008-12-7 6:48:00的发言:
Do you know anyone from your course who got into consulting?
I submitted my application a few days ago, quite nervous...my undergraduate grade isnt great only 2:1, by the time I finish the course I might be able to get 1st class overall but it's more likely to be 2:1...do you know anyone who got in with a 2:1?
thanx!

The MsF course can prepare you for consulting as well. One of my best friends got an offer from Oliver Wyman, but he did an internship with them.

my advice is, please please do an internship in the summer.  if you got any offers, please leverage on that in your CV.

The current model for IB hiring is that they tend to recruit their full time analysts from the summer analysts.

Grade is definitely not the only criterion at LSE. An expected first class honour is good enough. i can check the grades with some of my friends here. will get back to you later

i actually  had a nice chat with the programme director yesterday during dinner, and asked her why she picked us.

The central idea from the conversation is that you got to have sth special, either your background, or any other experiences which will you make you standing out from the crowd.

they want the diversity, not a stereotype.

Of cos, your reference letter got to be impressive. they will rely partly on that to make the decision.


作者: germaineilya    时间: 2008-12-7 08:45
thanx for the reply! I didnt get a chance to read my references, although one of my lecturers said he wrote a lot of nice stuff... do they care about gmat at all? i got 780 for G, hope that would compensate for my ug grades

作者: heslaw    时间: 2008-12-7 08:51
以下是引用lance0108在2008-12-7 7:55:00的发言:
Hi, Heslaw!

I've been thinking about applying for programs that start in fall 2009. I will appreciate it if you can help me with the following questions:

1) What GMAT score do your cohorts have? What are the other backgrounds of them besides finance, science, and engineering?

2) What's the total expense for one year? Is there any financial aid available?

Thanks!

1) for GMAT, we have from 690-780.

Backgrounds include engineering , computing, management, econs, accouting, english literature, politics, mathematics, physics, biochemistry

2) course fee = ~23K, cost of live about 800-1000 pounds per month, rental is expensive. if you knows how to cook, you can save some money and get rid of the terrible british foods. however, if you have difficulties in catching up with the class,  you will not have enough time for that.

you can apply to scholarships.  My friend got that. but his background is indeed impressive, very international background, top student of the department and speaks 6 languages, including Chinese ( he is not chinese!!!)

for those without financial knowledge, you should really do some reading before hand. I passed 2 levels of CFA in Dec 2007 and June 2008, that helps. thats why i still have time to apply to jobs and etc...


作者: heslaw    时间: 2008-12-7 08:54
以下是引用germaineilya在2008-12-7 8:45:00的发言:
thanx for the reply! I didnt get a chance to read my references, although one of my lecturers said he wrote a lot of nice stuff... do they care about gmat at all? i got 780 for G, hope that would compensate for my ug grades

your GMAT will catch their attention for sure, dont worry.

they may expand the class this year, but i am not sure... God knows...we are the guinea pigs , according to my supervisor


作者: heslaw    时间: 2008-12-7 08:56

anyway, bed time. will get up tmr morning and reply the posts

job hunting is tiring


作者: heitti    时间: 2008-12-7 09:12

楼主能说说 MSc Accounting &Finance这个项目的情况么?感觉上两个专业搭在一起。。。如果选concentration in finance的话,那不就成MSc Finance了么。。。虽说这个项目是在Accounting Department下的。。。

PS:如果现在申的话是不是被录取的可能性很小啊。。。

谢谢!


作者: heslaw    时间: 2008-12-7 09:15
以下是引用heitti在2008-12-7 9:12:00的发言:

楼主能说说 MSc Accounting &Finance这个项目的情况么?感觉上两个专业搭在一起。。。如果选concentration in finance的话,那不就成MSc Finance了么。。。虽说这个项目是在Accounting Department下的。。。

PS:如果现在申的话是不是被录取的可能性很小啊。。。

谢谢!

Not sure about that...

maybe lets get someone from that programme to enlighten us? we should have ppl from CD doing that course


作者: heslaw    时间: 2008-12-7 09:17
most of the applications will come in January and February, so, do it asap, but...do it properly
作者: lianghao    时间: 2008-12-7 09:22

23K GBP + 800-1000pound/month living expense.....So cheap actually, I didn't expect that....much cheaper than pursuing a Master degree in the U.S.

我想问一下学长那边的中国研究生到目前为止都是怎么个情况,他们都是什么学历背景的?我听说今年申请国内HSBC BDP项目的LSE的小本都能组个团了。。。。


作者: 楠得精彩    时间: 2008-12-7 09:41

I am a student majoring in financial engineering, and i am considering applying for LSE for 2009 Fall, when i wrote a letter to the admission committee and talked a little about my background, they replied that they only reconked a few schools in China, however, my school is not on the list, i wondered if this would effect my application like decreased the possiblity of getting in? Thank you and I appreciated your time


作者: 孙小珩    时间: 2008-12-7 12:20

lz能不能具体说说现在这个项目的工作情况呢?尤其是中国人的?

现在英国经济不好,失业率持续上升,这都是事实。

不过作为英国经济老大的LSE,我希望它的placement还不至于那么悲观。。。

lz又找工作又回复帖子真是辛苦了!


作者: Angel0211    时间: 2008-12-7 12:41
LZ万福~~
LSE的托福GMAT要送分吗?
还是在线填好就可以了呢?


作者: maypurple    时间: 2008-12-7 14:38

在网申系统中看到referee都是academic,但是美国很多学校都是要求一封学术一封职业,即使是实习的上司也可,请问是否两封推荐信都必须是学术呢?还有就是没有发现上传简历的地方,是否就代表不需要了呢?非常感谢~


作者: loooong    时间: 2008-12-7 15:05

hi~ heslaw.

Thank you for your help of my questions:

1)what could be considered as special? major? intership? or long term goal?

2)how is the IC's placement, compared to LSE?

3)As it is not clear the job market next year, is there any chance to get into the doctoral program in MFE& MSF,and percentage?

btw, good luck in job hunting !


作者: 紫苏    时间: 2008-12-7 15:08
要送分
作者: maypurple    时间: 2008-12-7 15:17
请问必须把官方的T G成绩都送过去吗?光是online报分是不可以的吗?
作者: heslaw    时间: 2008-12-7 17:26
以下是引用lianghao在2008-12-7 9:22:00的发言:

23K GBP + 800-1000pound/month living expense.....So cheap actually, I didn't expect that....much cheaper than pursuing a Master degree in the U.S.

我想问一下学长那边的中国研究生到目前为止都是怎么个情况,他们都是什么学历背景的?我听说今年申请国内HSBC BDP项目的LSE的小本都能组个团了。。。。

i can only say that it is the toughest year ever. not sure about the job placement of other programmes.

for undergrads, if they are really good or have some career planning , they should have secured a job by now. There are many chances for them to do an internship and get a return offer in 3 years.


作者: heslaw    时间: 2008-12-7 17:41
以下是引用楠得精彩在2008-12-7 9:41:00的发言:

I am a student majoring in financial engineering, and i am considering applying for LSE for 2009 Fall, when i wrote a letter to the admission committee and talked a little about my background, they replied that they only reconked a few schools in China, however, my school is not on the list, i wondered if this would effect my application like decreased the possiblity of getting in? Thank you and I appreciated your time

school does play a part in your application. however, thats not the end of the world. you can impress them with other things, like GPA, gmat and PS.

if i am someone from the committee, i would make sure that the selected students could handle the course work effectively.

I thought the MsF would be easy for me, as i have 2 levels of CFA... but... it is clearly not the case at the moment. I had some advantages in certain areas, but there were lots more to learn. therefore, some evidences of your ability are required. maybe you can request for  an interview? not sure about that


作者: heslaw    时间: 2008-12-7 17:54
以下是引用孙小珩在2008-12-7 12:20:00的发言:

lz能不能具体说说现在这个项目的工作情况呢?尤其是中国人的?

现在英国经济不好,失业率持续上升,这都是事实。

不过作为英国经济老大的LSE,我希望它的placement还不至于那么悲观。。。

lz又找工作又回复帖子真是辛苦了!

let me quote some ideas from the career service office in LSE:

the financial sector  definitely experienced a hard hit, and many banks cut cost by massive firings. employers tend to give more short term jobs than permanent offers. overall, the banks (referring to IBs) probably do not know what they are doing or what they should be doing at the moment.

I guess we need to have an understanding of the recruitment model. all banks prefer to hire full time from interns ( safer bet, isn't it?) the internship itself is an extended interview. therefore, it is hard to get a full time offer directly. to put it simple, if i have someone who had an internship from goldman, why would i be interested in someone without any experience in the sector?

the career service lady actually joked with us last time, saying that you guys are in LSE, should be more optimisitc. after all, if everyone is queueing for  an offer, you are in the front rows. thats the original idea. it makes sense, 覆巢之下,安有完卵?we got to pray for a turning point, and wait for the chances to come.


作者: heslaw    时间: 2008-12-7 17:54
以下是引用Angel0211在2008-12-7 12:41:00的发言:
LZ万福~~
LSE的托福GMAT要送分吗?
还是在线填好就可以了呢?

send it


作者: heslaw    时间: 2008-12-7 17:56
以下是引用maypurple在2008-12-7 14:38:00的发言:

在网申系统中看到referee都是academic,但是美国很多学校都是要求一封学术一封职业,即使是实习的上司也可,请问是否两封推荐信都必须是学术呢?还有就是没有发现上传简历的地方,是否就代表不需要了呢?非常感谢~

i got  both my ref from the academic world. get someone who know you very well.

i thought i uploaded a CV last time? not sure about that, you got to check it out.


作者: heslaw    时间: 2008-12-7 18:05
以下是引用loooong在2008-12-7 15:05:00的发言:

hi~ heslaw.

Thank you for your help of my questions:

1)what could be considered as special? major? intership? or long term goal?

2)how is the IC's placement, compared to LSE?

3)As it is not clear the job market next year, is there any chance to get into the doctoral program in MFE& MSF,and percentage?

btw, good luck in job hunting !

1. can be anything, indeed, anything. i cant give you an answer, cause there is no single correct answer, or simply , there is no answer. you got to get used to this kind of thing in LSE. they encourage diversity and creative thinking. The PS is your show time and you are unique.

2. well, like what i said, same programme, most of the ppl will choose LSE.

In London, if you are in any of the 4 universities, cam, ox, lse, ic, you will receive a certain level of " recognition" from the employers. furthermore, if you are from the relavant majors and you did a good research on the firm , you should have the chance of an interview ( in normal years).

3. you are right, no one has an idea about the market at the moment. but if you want a PhD, i would recommend Mfe or Msc Econs. they are more academic.


作者: aaaaaa1987    时间: 2008-12-7 18:20
In London, if you are in any of the 4 universities, cam, ox, lse, ic, you will receive a certain level of " recognition" from the employers. furthermore, if you are from the relavant majors and you did a good research on the firm , you should have the chance of an interview ( in normal years).

What about LBS compared to the 4 universities?
作者: heslaw    时间: 2008-12-7 18:31
以下是引用aaaaaa1987在2008-12-7 18:20:00的发言:
In London, if you are in any of the 4 universities, cam, ox, lse, ic, you will receive a certain level of " recognition" from the employers. furthermore, if you are from the relavant majors and you did a good research on the firm , you should have the chance of an interview ( in normal years).

What about LBS compared to the 4 universities?

thats for MBA

i am talking about undergrads here

of cos LBS is good, but it does not make sense to me,


作者: aaaaaa1987    时间: 2008-12-7 18:35
But LBS also has Master in Finance and Master in Management.
作者: heslaw    时间: 2008-12-7 18:49
以下是引用aaaaaa1987在2008-12-7 18:35:00的发言:
But LBS also has Master in Finance and Master in Management.

w/e is required, dude...

6 years on average


作者: 孙小珩    时间: 2008-12-7 18:54
以下是引用heslaw在2008-12-7 17:54:00的发言:

let me quote some ideas from the career service office in LSE:

the financial sector  definitely experienced a hard hit, and many banks cut cost by massive firings. employers tend to give more short term jobs than permanent offers. overall, the banks (referring to IBs) probably do not know what they are doing or what they should be doing at the moment.

I guess we need to have an understanding of the recruitment model. all banks prefer to hire full time from interns ( safer bet, isn't it?) the internship itself is an extended interview. therefore, it is hard to get a full time offer directly. to put it simple, if i have someone who had an internship from goldman, why would i be interested in someone without any experience in the sector?

the career service lady actually joked with us last time, saying that you guys are in LSE, should be more optimisitc. after all, if everyone is queueing for  an offer, you are in the front rows. thats the original idea. it makes sense, 覆巢之下,安有完卵?we got to pray for a turning point, and wait for the chances to come.

可是LSE金融的项目只有短短十个月,应该不会有时间实习吧?!

既然这样,就业。。。

lz,请问今年你们这个项目大概多少人找到工作了?或者差不多能找到工作?

英国实在不好找的话,转战美国继续找的胜率有多少? thankkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkss


作者: heslaw    时间: 2008-12-7 18:57
以下是引用孙小珩在2008-12-7 18:54:00的发言:

可是LSE金融的项目只有短短十个月,应该不会有时间实习吧?!

既然这样,就业。。。

lz,请问今年你们这个项目大概多少人找到工作了?或者差不多能找到工作?

英国实在不好找的话,转战美国继续找的胜率有多少? thankkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkss

you should apply for interns now... once you got the offer... just put that in your CV. that will get you an interview somehow.

see the previous postings for job placements. I am confident that after awhile, almost everyone from my class will get an offer, cause they have really strong backgrounds. for us, it is either front office or nothing in most of the cases...

London is a place of opportunities i should say...hehe


作者: heslaw    时间: 2008-12-7 19:00
gtg, will settle the posts when i get back
作者: 紫苏    时间: 2008-12-7 19:05
lse什么时候发offer 啊
偶申的af
man大要我12月19交订金

楼主对man怎么看
还有lanca
也许你觉得不入流
呵呵

作者: leemelanie    时间: 2008-12-7 19:24

can it be longer, since 10-month is really short to find an internship and a job?


作者: 牧心    时间: 2008-12-7 19:48

我的托福考了99分想申请finance and economices,可是要求是100分,这样的情况下能不能够申请呢,或者有没有其它的解决办法呢:例如先申请,明年开学前上个语言学校或者再考托福之类的

非常感谢您的帮助


作者: 新人    时间: 2008-12-7 19:56

LZ, does everybody can secure an offer? However, I know some LSE guys come back to China because they can not find job in UK.

If it is true, then maybe I will consider LSE


作者: Angel0211    时间: 2008-12-7 20:18
不好意思啊~
再问个低级问题,LSE要寄成绩单吗?

作者: heslaw    时间: 2008-12-7 21:01
以下是引用紫苏在2008-12-7 19:05:00的发言:
lse什么时候发offer 啊
偶申的af
man大要我12月19交订金

楼主对man怎么看
还有lanca
也许你觉得不入流
呵呵

8-weeks if you applied early. they expect the applications to peak in Jan/Feb

af is good for big 4. they recruit collectively over 2500 people every year in London


作者: heslaw    时间: 2008-12-7 21:03
以下是引用leemelanie在2008-12-7 19:24:00的发言:

can it be longer, since 10-month is really short to find an internship and a job?

thats a good issue !

i will bring this up to the course supervisor as a feedback. actually, i felt the same way..but it is hard to change


作者: heslaw    时间: 2008-12-7 21:05
以下是引用牧心在2008-12-7 19:48:00的发言:

我的托福考了99分想申请finance and economices,可是要求是100分,这样的情况下能不能够申请呢,或者有没有其它的解决办法呢:例如先申请,明年开学前上个语言学校或者再考托福之类的

非常感谢您的帮助

certain rules are quite strict...i am afraid that it will be problem...

but i think they have reasonable basis for that. if you cant catch up with the rest of the class, that will be an even worse situation, isn't it?


作者: heslaw    时间: 2008-12-7 21:13
以下是引用新人在2008-12-7 19:56:00的发言:

LZ, does everybody can secure an offer? However, I know some LSE guys come back to China because they can not find job in UK.

If it is true, then maybe I will consider LSE

well, i guess you do not have a decent interest in LSE, but i will still make some points here 

my posting is about "finance programmes", specifically, MsF, MFE.

the two courses together will only take about 130 ppl global every year from thousands of applicants.

LSE has a very high teaching standard and the course works are tough. many students (not only chinese, all) found it hard to cope with the study. Therefore, they dont have time to look for a job. Furthermore, the adverse conditions in the market make job hunting an extremely laborious task.
    

you may be suspicious about what i am saying, but those are the hard facts
    

frankly speaking, your background does not stand a good chance to get admitted by the MsF programme.....if you have looked through the CVs of my classmates. I can give an abtract of the profiles later on
    

after all, LSE is not begging for your application


作者: heslaw    时间: 2008-12-7 21:16
以下是引用Angel0211在2008-12-7 20:18:00的发言:
不好意思啊~
再问个低级问题,LSE要寄成绩单吗?

you only need to scan the original copy and attach it in your application. LSE makes the application extremely flexible, and only ask for original copies of the successful applicants. thats the business effectiveness-- savings on both time and money


作者: Angel0211    时间: 2008-12-7 21:19
谢谢解答哦
但是TOEFL和G还是要official的,对吗?

作者: heslaw    时间: 2008-12-7 21:21

got some info here

an abstract of my classmates'profile

班里同学背景很复杂,列举几个

A: Bank of America, trader, 3 year w/e, 已经是associate, 辞了工作来读

B: LSE undergraduate, DB, Citi internship,已经有了 Citi Full time offer, delay 1 year to take this course.

C: 1 year w/e at Goldman sales and trading, still looking for job

D: Cambridge econs first class honor, goldman trading internship, still looking for job

E: 这个比较倒霉,开始了 2 months full time work at Lehman Brothers...然后....然后来读这个...LSE econs 1:1

F: 8 years w/e in the most profitable bank in China, Investment banking division, project manager (实在是佩服!)

G: Cambridge Maths major ,top 10 of the cohort ( Cam maths is definitely world top class)

以上所有人都是1:1, or 10% of the class


作者: heslaw    时间: 2008-12-7 21:23
以下是引用Angel0211在2008-12-7 21:19:00的发言:
谢谢解答哦
但是TOEFL和G还是要official的,对吗?

yes, you just write down the scores first

they believed in honesty of students


作者: loooong    时间: 2008-12-7 21:31

请问

中国大陆直接去的是什么样的背景?

这个项目有130个人?那教师学生比不是很小吗?


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作者: g0227030m    时间: 2008-12-7 22:46

请教楼主,我的背景是 top university 2:1 natural science ( major) + business ( minor), gmat 690, 1yr+ working experience in a big commerial bank. 比你的同学背景好像差很多,那莫申请lse还有希望吗?如果不行的话,请问可以申请到什末样的英美学校呢?谢谢。


作者: ypurple    时间: 2008-12-7 23:35
Hi, Heslaw,

想请问你一下,LSE的MscFinancial maths, 与他家的MSF比较,那个比较好?

如果是在新加坡读大学的,需要TOFEL成绩来申请吗?

多谢了
作者: heslaw    时间: 2008-12-8 01:41
以下是引用loooong在2008-12-7 21:31:00的发言:

请问

中国大陆直接去的是什么样的背景?

这个项目有130个人?那教师学生比不是很小吗?


confidential

but i can give you some rough ideas

top 5 uni in china, econs, top 5%. international background, two internships in IBs


作者: heslaw    时间: 2008-12-8 01:42
以下是引用zbb88在2008-12-7 22:22:00的发言:
F: 8 years w/e in the most profitable bank in China, Investment banking division, project manager (实在是佩服!)
        

这个应该是直接从大陆过去的吧..

yeah. she got a cute son


作者: tianyalu    时间: 2008-12-8 01:43

LZ该吃晚饭了~

我是龙龙龙猪猪猪的马甲


作者: heslaw    时间: 2008-12-8 01:46
以下是引用g0227030m在2008-12-7 22:46:00的发言:

请教楼主,我的背景是 top university 2:1 natural science ( major) + business ( minor), gmat 690, 1yr+ working experience in a big commerial bank. 比你的同学背景好像差很多,那莫申请lse还有希望吗?如果不行的话,请问可以申请到什末样的英美学校呢?谢谢。

why not ? we do have 2:1 in the class

i think your university qualification is rather decent. some 1:1s in my class are not from big name universities.

if you can define clearly why you want to do this course and what you want to get from this course, you will stand a good chance for admission


作者: heslaw    时间: 2008-12-8 01:47
以下是引用tianyalu在2008-12-8 1:43:00的发言:

LZ该吃晚饭了~

我是龙龙龙猪猪猪的马甲

偶刚从学校回来...还剩最后一个assignment @@


作者: tianyalu    时间: 2008-12-8 01:49
以下是引用heslaw在2008-12-8 1:47:00的发言:

偶刚从学校回来...还剩最后一个assignment @@

恩, 你们真的好多作业喔~我去吃饭了~PEKING DUCK~YAMMY~
作者: heslaw    时间: 2008-12-8 01:52
以下是引用ypurple在2008-12-7 23:35:00的发言:
Hi, Heslaw,

想请问你一下,LSE的MscFinancial maths, 与他家的MSF比较,那个比较好?

如果是在新加坡读大学的,需要TOFEL成绩来申请吗?

多谢了

okie, great question. cause i thought about doing that programme recently.

the class is small, 15 people for this year.

they tend to take someone who is very theoretical. i.e those ppl who have never done anything else in their lives except study. for example, someone from Cambridge maths major will be an ideal candidate for them. they want ppl with mathematical minds.

my undergrad major is not maths, therefore, i more or less gave up on that option..

if your undergrad course medium of instruction is English, you can waive TOEFL results


作者: heslaw    时间: 2008-12-8 01:52
以下是引用tianyalu在2008-12-8 1:49:00的发言:

恩, 你们真的好多作业喔~我去吃饭了~PEKING DUCK~YAMMY~

@@

狂口水


作者: spring25    时间: 2008-12-8 02:01

Hi heslaw,

I am third year student in Leeds University Business School,doing Accouting and Finance. I am very interested in the MsF programm in LSE. I got a First in my second year study and my cohort randing is 4th out of 79 and generally that is all my background. I have a couple of questions:

1. No w/e and intership experience, dose this jeopardise my application? or do you think it is a must-have for the admssion?

2. Currently I am working hard on my personal statement with which I think I can don sth to make me stand out. so, I wonder if you could give me some advise about this.

Basically, that is all and really appreciate you help !!

Thank you very much

Xing


作者: loooong    时间: 2008-12-8 02:12

你能帮我评估一下吗?申请lse~

senior, top university, natural science gpa 20%, dual degree in economics gpa 90+, a intership as financial consultant, a reseach experience, no thesis, no international experience .GRE Q800(v&A 不考虑吧~). T101.

Thank you!


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作者: 00cld00    时间: 2008-12-8 02:17

请问一下在伦敦咨询公司的工作是不是比金融类的工作好找一些呢?如果想在咨询业发展那么申贵校的那个项目会比较好呢?该项目的竞争录取难度大概是怎样呢?

抱歉这个问题与金融不太相关,但实在是找不到知道这些信息的人。


作者: heslaw    时间: 2008-12-8 02:32
以下是引用spring25在2008-12-8 2:01:00的发言:

Hi heslaw,

I am third year student in Leeds University Business School,doing Accouting and Finance. I am very interested in the MsF programm in LSE. I got a First in my second year study and my cohort randing is 4th out of 79 and generally that is all my background. I have a couple of questions:

1. No w/e and intership experience, dose this jeopardise my application? or do you think it is a must-have for the admssion?

2. Currently I am working hard on my personal statement with which I think I can don sth to make me stand out. so, I wonder if you could give me some advise about this.

Basically, that is all and really appreciate you help !!

Thank you very much

Xing

1. absolutely no. there are ppl without internships in the class at the moment of application. dont worry about that. it is a good time for you to get one this summer. that will help your job hunting in 2010

2. sure. we can do that during the holidays.


作者: heslaw    时间: 2008-12-8 02:36
以下是引用loooong在2008-12-8 2:12:00的发言:

你能帮我评估一下吗?申请lse~

senior, top university, natural science gpa 20%, dual degree in economics gpa 90+, a intership as financial consultant, a reseach experience, no thesis, no international experience .GRE Q800(v&A 不考虑吧~). T101.

Thank you!


your academic qualification should be sufficient. got to work out a plan for your PS. 

there are many applications with excellent academic qualification, but what differentiate you from them?


作者: heslaw    时间: 2008-12-8 02:41
以下是引用00cld00在2008-12-8 2:17:00的发言:

请问一下在伦敦咨询公司的工作是不是比金融类的工作好找一些呢?如果想在咨询业发展那么申贵校的那个项目会比较好呢?该项目的竞争录取难度大概是怎样呢?

抱歉这个问题与金融不太相关,但实在是找不到知道这些信息的人。

it is ok,  i have some ideas about consulting too.

consulting is generally easier for native English speaker. however, i should say, consulting is more of a cultural job. therefore, you can study in LSE and find placements in Asia ( thats what i thought, HK can be an ideal place)

then you got to know what you want to do in consulting, financial consulting, strategic consulting, business consulting , etc etc

furthermore, how do your characters fit the job? after you figure out those points, you should have an idea.


作者: 00cld00    时间: 2008-12-8 03:05

我的本科专业是marketing,所以我更倾向于 business consulting,请问有合适的项目吗?录取难度怎样?另外如果是去香港或者新加坡这样的地方去找工作,那么直接申请香港或者是新加坡这样的本地大学会不会更有优势呢?


作者: heslaw    时间: 2008-12-8 08:21
以下是引用00cld00在2008-12-8 3:05:00的发言:

我的本科专业是marketing,所以我更倾向于 business consulting,请问有合适的项目吗?录取难度怎样?另外如果是去香港或者新加坡这样的地方去找工作,那么直接申请香港或者是新加坡这样的本地大学会不会更有优势呢?

hi man... i have no idea on that...really sorry about it...


作者: ypurple    时间: 2008-12-8 09:27
Ms financial maths只有15个人。。。hmmm, 看来也没有什么希望了,请问MsF你们这届有多少人,是从多少人中选出来的,谢谢

作者: ypurple    时间: 2008-12-8 09:29
还有ls各位说的1:1,2:1是什么意思?
作者: heslaw    时间: 2008-12-8 10:02
以下是引用ypurple在2008-12-8 9:27:00的发言:
Ms financial maths只有15个人。。。hmmm, 看来也没有什么希望了,请问MsF你们这届有多少人,是从多少人中选出来的,谢谢

it was stated in previous postings... 45/1600


作者: heslaw    时间: 2008-12-8 10:03
以下是引用zbb88在2008-12-8 9:59:00的发言:
2.1 大概等于80-85

1.1 大概等于85-90

集体夜猫啊

偶睡觉了


作者: heitti    时间: 2008-12-8 11:25

那么请问85算哪个档呢。。。这个分数真尴尬。。。

谢谢楼主的解答!

还有个问题:如果考虑在LSE读双学位呢?或者读完再读一个?(我不是强人,但是可能不会那么喜欢会计,但是因为MS AF 好歹与FINANCE沾点边,也有相关课程,有可能再争取MSF的学位么?

不知道这么问会不会被拍。。。先谢过了!


作者: yzkyzk    时间: 2008-12-8 19:12

请问楼主

1.LSE MsF数学要求高么?大学没修过数学(ACCA专业),高中的数学水平需要在哪些方面做出努力?最好能给出具体的书本

2.通篇看下来并搜索楼主之前的贴子,并没发现楼主的背景?貌似在新加坡考的G,能否share背景?

祝楼主找工作顺利


作者: TODD_XIE    时间: 2008-12-8 21:15

可望不可及。


作者: loooong    时间: 2008-12-8 21:16
以下是引用zbb88在2008-12-8 19:47:00的发言:



如果你学校在LSE的认可名单里, 85就算是2.1了。如果不在就是90 = 2.1.

你这圈子兜太大了。没必要.

lse认可的范围是??
作者: heslaw    时间: 2008-12-8 22:06
以下是引用heitti在2008-12-8 11:25:00的发言:

那么请问85算哪个档呢。。。这个分数真尴尬。。。

谢谢楼主的解答!

还有个问题:如果考虑在LSE读双学位呢?或者读完再读一个?(我不是强人,但是可能不会那么喜欢会计,但是因为MS AF 好歹与FINANCE沾点边,也有相关课程,有可能再争取MSF的学位么?

不知道这么问会不会被拍。。。先谢过了!

it is expensive to do that...

frankly speaking, not all courses in LSE are competitive, but generally, if you got a decent course from LSE and work through your CV carefully, you should get an interview under normal market conditions. It will be a fair competition after you enter the interview room.

I guess you stand a good chance to get admitted in one of the decent courses ( to put it narrowly, those related to the financial service industry), but you got to be clear what you wanna do


作者: heslaw    时间: 2008-12-8 22:16
以下是引用yzkyzk在2008-12-8 19:12:00的发言:

请问楼主

1.LSE MsF数学要求高么?大学没修过数学(ACCA专业),高中的数学水平需要在哪些方面做出努力?最好能给出具体的书本

2.通篇看下来并搜索楼主之前的贴子,并没发现楼主的背景?貌似在新加坡考的G,能否share背景?

祝楼主找工作顺利

1. 会有一个pre-sessional maths and accounting course. 有些课需要一定数学基础,for example, optimization and calculus.. if you wanna choose financial engineering as an optional course, some basic programming will be good, but not required. after all, we have ppl with history, english literature and politics background in the class, so dont worry about that.

2. well, if you really wanna know, i dont mind sharing

G710/5.5, Biomedicine major, National University of Singapore, first class honour, received several prestigious scholarships in the past 10 years.

PS: just received 2 rejections this morning


作者: sarybaby    时间: 2008-12-8 23:49

请问一下楼主,如果不是LSE列出来认可的学校去申的话希望大吗??还是说即使GPA再高也没有希望呢???

谢谢


作者: yoyo0327    时间: 2008-12-9 01:19
楼主的信息非常有用啊,不怎么来CD,你开了这个贴我现在没事就看一下呵呵
我也申请了这个programme,希望可以给我offer啊,如果有幸能成为校友就好了
多谢楼主!

作者: yoyo0327    时间: 2008-12-9 01:42
汗,刚查了下,把我放waiting list了~~~

作者: heslaw    时间: 2008-12-9 01:44
以下是引用sarybaby在2008-12-8 23:49:00的发言:

请问一下楼主,如果不是LSE列出来认可的学校去申的话希望大吗??还是说即使GPA再高也没有希望呢???

谢谢

no idea at the moment. If there is a chance to see the course director during parties, i will make an enquiry.


作者: heslaw    时间: 2008-12-9 01:45
以下是引用yoyo0327在2008-12-9 1:42:00的发言:
汗,刚查了下,把我放waiting list了~~~

i see. i think it will be helpful to others if you can share your backgrounds.
作者: yoyo0327    时间: 2008-12-9 02:26
我的背景可能参考意义不大,因为是英国本科
Royal Holloway, University of London
first year 70.5
second year 75
first class expected
GMAT 740 Q满分
无实习经验
如果对大家有帮助最好:)
Good Luck for everyone!

作者: rainfly302    时间: 2008-12-9 09:47
ls的状态已经变成waiting list了吗?为啥我的状态还是under consideration by the department?我10月就全给它家弄完材料了,应该是最早的第一批的。
作者: yezhihai    时间: 2008-12-9 11:19

哈哈,刚刚从GMAT区转战到此,就看到楼主的帖子,真是幸运。楼主找工作这么忙,每个回复贴的含金量还这么高,实在难得,赞! 

一直以来,我对三个项目比较心仪——OXMFELSEMaster of F&E,还有CamMph. in Finance,近年又看到LSEMsc in Finance,和CamMaster in Finance 

可否请楼主谈谈对OXMFELSEMsc in Finance,和CamMaster in Finance这三个项目的比较? 

另外,我有三年在国内商业银行的工作经历,如果要申LSEMaster of F&E,还有CamMph. in Finance,比起刚毕业的学生是否反而是个劣势?如果不是劣势,我是否可以同时申请LSE的这两个项目? 

第三个问题我在给您的短信中也有提及,就是OXMFE第三轮申请,相比第二轮申请,是否处于劣势? 

非常感谢。并祝多拿OFFER


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作者: maypurple    时间: 2008-12-9 13:02
以下是引用rainfly302在2008-12-9 9:47:00的发言:
ls的状态已经变成waiting list了吗?为啥我的状态还是under consideration by the department?我10月就全给它家弄完材料了,应该是最早的第一批的。

想问一下你是否送了T分给LSE,我不确定选01还是02,美国的都是02但是英国不太清楚,非常感谢啊~


作者: rainfly302    时间: 2008-12-9 14:57
我当时填的是02
作者: yoyo0327    时间: 2008-12-9 17:18
没有waiting list说明可能给你offer啊,我也是最早的一批

作者: heslaw    时间: 2008-12-9 18:24
以下是引用yezhihai在2008-12-9 11:19:00的发言:

哈哈,刚刚从GMAT区转战到此,就看到楼主的帖子,真是幸运。楼主找工作这么忙,每个回复贴的含金量还这么高,实在难得,赞! 

一直以来,我对三个项目比较心仪——OXMFELSEMaster of F&E,还有CamMph. in Finance,近年又看到LSEMsc in Finance,和CamMaster in Finance 

可否请楼主谈谈对OXMFELSEMsc in Finance,和CamMaster in Finance这三个项目的比较? 

另外,我有三年在国内商业银行的工作经历,如果要申LSEMaster of F&E,还有CamMph. in Finance,比起刚毕业的学生是否反而是个劣势?如果不是劣势,我是否可以同时申请LSE的这两个项目? 

第三个问题我在给您的短信中也有提及,就是OXMFE第三轮申请,相比第二轮申请,是否处于劣势? 

非常感谢。并祝多拿OFFER


you cant apply to Cam mph fin. thats for ppl without w/e. you can apply to their MSc finance

i have 3 classmates with both Cam mph fin and LSE Msc Fin offer. My impression is that Cam puts heavy weight on academic performance, i.e. 1st class is expected.

for ox mfe, there are ppl going for face to face interview in round 3, and the places will be limited by then. I applied in March, which is considered too late @@

Not sure about the overall W/E for LSE MFE, but i can check it out for you from serveral friends in that programme.

LSE allows you to put two choices in the online application form


作者: heslaw    时间: 2008-12-9 18:27
was wondering who has got an offer from MSc Finance this year. let me know. haha
作者: yoyo0327    时间: 2008-12-9 19:17
我也很想知道,我觉得rainfly302很有可能~~~
作者: maypurple    时间: 2008-12-9 19:21
以下是引用rainfly302在2008-12-9 14:57:00的发言:
我当时填的是02

非常感谢,刚刚送了分了,还有个想问下你,我把网申翻来覆去看了都没找到上传resume的地方,只有PS跟三个传成绩单的页面, heslaw说他似乎记得传过,不知道今年是不是有变化,不好意思在这么个帖子里问这么种问题


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作者: yoyo0327    时间: 2008-12-9 19:48
如果我没记错,LSE是不推荐传CV的
作者: rainfly302    时间: 2008-12-9 20:45

我就传了CV,在PS那一页里,我是附在PS后面的


作者: spring25    时间: 2008-12-10 03:13

hi

我记得在线申请有一页可以上传additional document,我觉得你可以在那里上传你想传的文件。(I.E. CV)


作者: heslaw    时间: 2008-12-10 03:31

For those with strong w/e, you should submit a CV

british style CV normally requires 2 pages. however, if you only want to work for IBs, 1 page will do


作者: yezhihai    时间: 2008-12-10 09:42

谢谢Heslaw,随着申请进程,以后可能还要麻烦您答疑解惑

谢谢zbb88,看来我是不能申CAM的MPH in Finance了,您能再具体说说CAM的Master in Finance这个项目吗?毕竟是新项目,学费也超过LSE 和OX


作者: qiaojay    时间: 2008-12-10 12:06

lz你好,我对LSE的MFE的Mres很感兴趣,但不知道我这个条件有没有可能被录取,谢谢!请问是不是如果能申请到他的Mres就有很大的可能继续度他家的phd呢?不知道LSE的phd会不会有全奖,听说很多英国学校的phd是没有奖的。。。很雷人。。。

本科是中国人民大学的,学贸易经济,但我们系的课程设置里面数学和经济学课程都不是很多,有点偏商的感觉。

GPA:88/100, GMAT:730+5, TOEFL:101

谢谢lz的回答!


作者: qiaojay    时间: 2008-12-10 12:41

我是ls的,

1还有一个问题就是好像英国的学校都很早下offer的,那么1,2月份申请lse还来得及吗。

2今年有一个新项目是financial mathematics,能介绍一下这个项目吗?它是不是也是profession-oriented,还是research-oriented?

3我觉得LSE的许多项目,Ms finance, MFE,financial mathematics都是针对IBs的,这几个项目区别在哪儿?从找工作角度来说,Ms finance, MFE,以及MF&A 这四个项目哪个更好找?

4 LSE里面分by taught 和by research的项目,是不是by taught的以后就找工作了,而by research的就phd了呢?是不是by research的竞争比by taught竞争激烈的多的多呢?

问题有点多,谢谢lz的回答了!






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