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作者: goyce36    时间: 2008-9-24 19:05
标题: not..but..的用法 prep73 prep76

73. (28457-!-item-!-188;#058&003634)

Evolutionary psychology holds that the human mind is not a "blank slate," but instead that it comprises specialized mental mechanisms that were developed as a way of solving specific problems human ancestors faced millions of years ago.

(A) the human mind is not a "blank slate," but instead that it comprises specialized mental mechanisms that were developed as a way of solving

(B) the human mind is not
            a "blank slate"
            but instead
            comprises specialized mental mechanisms that were developed to solve

(C) the human mind, instead of a "blank slate," it comprises specialized mental mechanisms that have been developed to solve

(D) rather than it being a "blank slate," the human mind comprises specialized mental mechanisms that have been developed as a way of solving

(E) rather than the human mind's being a "blank slate," that it comprises specialized mental mechanisms that were developed as a way of solving

正确答案为B,看到讨论说but instead/rather中but是介词,所以后面连什么都行,不需要平行。是这样么?

76. (28643-!-item-!-188;#058&003706)

By recording the noise of crinkled wrappers as they were slowly stretched out in an otherwise silent chamber, and then digitizing and analyzing the sound emissions on computers, a team of scientists found the noise not continuous but
            consisted of individual bursts or pops just thousandths of a second long.

(A) digitizing and analyzing the sound emissions on computers, a team of scientists found the noise not
            

(B) digitizing and analyzing the sound emissions on computers, a team of scientists found that the noise was not
            

(C) digitizing and analyzing the sound emissions on computers, a team of scientists found the noise not to be

(D) the sound emissions were digitized and analyzed on computers, a team of scientists found that the noise was not

(E) the sound emissions were digitized and analyzed on computers, a team of scientists found the noise not to be

正确答案为BA不平行。

请问是不是这里把be not...but do当作平行呢?否则前面是形容词后面是动词不平行。因为不能说not be...只有be not,因此not后面实际上还是接的动词。


作者: rock19840717    时间: 2008-9-25 10:02
这个到没有细研究过,MM大搞语法,高分的标志,第二题应该是宾从that不可以省的问题,然后宾从后面是个完整的句子
作者: goyce36    时间: 2008-9-26 21:05

厄……我本来想走语感路线的,发现不成,只能改走死扣路线了。

还有人能帮我确定一下我的理解么?


作者: AlienX    时间: 2008-9-26 23:24
73 and 76都是動詞跟動詞的並列
X but Y
not A but B
兩種並列結構都是存在的
要看題去決定是那個結構
作者: goyce36    时间: 2008-9-27 20:29
以下是引用AlienX在2008-9-26 23:24:00的发言:
73 and 76都是動詞跟動詞的並列
X but Y
not A but B
兩種並列結構都是存在的
要看題去決定是那個結構

那请问分别是哪两个动词的并列呢?


作者: AlienX    时间: 2008-9-28 00:32
73. is 跟 comprise 並列
76. 我說錯....是continuous 跟 consisted 並列, 是形容詞跟形容詞並列
作者: tianyi_2003    时间: 2008-9-29 00:08

归结到but 和 not...but的用法区别,满麻烦的,先看个2例子吧

1.The voluminous personal papers of Thomas Alva Edison reaveal that his inventions typically did not spring to life in a flash of insperation but evolved slowly from previous works.

not 后面是 spring而but 后面是evolved,时态不一致,按照not...but的平行是不可以的,原因是这里是,,,but的用法

2.The plan cause not prosperity but ruin

not后面和but后面是肯定平行的,不论从形式和时态,因为此处是not...but的用法(注意not...but中系动词和实义动词是不能平行的)

 

看完例题,开始说两者的区别,最大也是最容易区分的区别就是助动词,如果前面是一个否定,那么助动词后不可避免出现not(当然我们不可能为了平行将助动词放在not后面),注意,此处可能并不是一个not...but的并列而是but并列两个动词,此处当然be和实义动词按照平行法则可以平行

你的两个例子无一例外是助动词+not的形式,是but的平行用法,也就是说,你完全可以把否定拿掉,观察平行

73. the human mind is (not) a "blank slate"but instead comprises specialized mental mechanisms that were developed to solve

76.digitizing and analyzing the sound emissions on computers, a team of scientists found that the noise was (not) continuous but consisted of

简单说,就是but平行用法前面出现否定。 

至于instead,副词可以完全无视,至于consisted是形容词,这绝对是...

为了更好地理解,给你两个not...but 用法看看:

prep1-59.   A new genetically engineered papaya was produced not by seed companies who have been motivated by profit, which was the case with most genetically modified crops previously approved for commercial use, but university and United States Department of Agriculture researchers who allowed growers to use it free of charge.

(A) produced not by seed companies who have been motivated by profit, which was the case with most genetically modified crops previously approved for commercial use, but

(B) produced not by profit-motivated seed companies, the case with most genetically modified crops previously approved for commercial use, but

(C) produced not by profit-motivated seed companies, as was the case with most genetically modified crops previously approved for commercial use, but by

(D) not produced by profit-motivated seed companies, which was the case with most genetically modified crops previously approved for commercial use, but was produced by

(E) not produced by seed companies who have been motivated by profit, the case with most genetically modified crops previously approved for commercial use, but by

很漂亮的not + 介词.. but +介词平行,而不是but平行前面否定(很容易看出来),打得我好累啊,希望你懂了,还希望大家泼水讨论!


作者: goyce36    时间: 2008-9-29 21:00

先谢谢tianyi,但是你说的我不同意。首先,你举的OG的例子,我认为是not..but..句型。原因是这里应该是did spring和evolved平行,两者都是过去时,只不过我们不能说not did spring but evolved,因此,这是符合平行原则的(两个过去式平行)

其次,73题是典型的不是而是题,和普通的but转折句有很明显的意思不同。(你再感觉一下)如果按你说的系动词不能和实意动词平行,就没法解释了。

76题,我不同意consisted是形容词的说法,应该是过去分词,和continuous共用一个was.

总结下来,我已经不确定要不要平行了。反正这些题都选对了,只是因为读着顺而已。


作者: 小齐    时间: 2008-9-29 21:16

73:the human mind is not
        a "blank slate"
        but instead
        comprises

not 位于助动词,系动词,或情态动词后,可以把not..but..看作是一个普通的否定副词not +并列连词but 

此时不是一个固定词组,该句没有强调平行对等,所以是两个独立的单词 


作者: 小齐    时间: 2008-9-29 21:20

同样76 B项 team of scientists found that the noise was not
    

也可同样如此解释


作者: tianyi_2003    时间: 2008-9-29 21:31
以下是引用goyce36在2008-9-29 21:00:00的发言:

先谢谢tianyi,(别这么客气,一起讨论撒!)但是你说的我不同意。首先,你举的OG的例子,我认为是not..but..句型。原因是这里应该是did spring和evolved平行,两者都是过去时,只不过我们不能说not did spring but evolved,因此,这是符合平行原则的(两个过去式平行)

but和not...but都是转折的用法,逻辑上来区别区别不出来的。也就可以说前面如果有助系动词+not否定有可能是but用法,你不能排除be和do并列的可能性,仅此而已不必想复杂了

其次,73题是典型的不是而是题,和普通的but转折句有很明显的意思不同。(你再感觉一下)如果按你说的系动词不能和实意动词平行,就没法解释了。

同上

76题,我不同意consisted是形容词的说法,应该是过去分词,和continuous共用一个was.

consisted 如果是过去分词,那么was 是助动词而 was continuous的was是系动词,如果平行不能把后一个was 省略。你这个理解恐怕不对的,这里consisted应该动词过去式。

例子: I like a person not Tom but you - not...but 用法

            I am not a hot girl but like spicy girl   but用法

欢迎讨论啊!


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作者: AlienX    时间: 2008-9-30 13:17
過去分詞**有時候**可作形容詞.
如果consisted不是作形容詞, 那麼
the noise was not continuous but consisted of individual bursts or pops just thousandths of a second long.
應該改為
the noise was not continuous but was consisted of individual bursts or pops just thousandths of a second long.
Handbook of Good English上有提過這種錯誤...跟11th floor提的一樣
可是GMAT常有它自己的看法...
歡迎討論...

作者: JorieSong    时间: 2008-10-3 15:48
以下是引用tianyi_2003在2008-9-29 0:08:00的发言:

归结到but 和 not...but的用法区别,满麻烦的,先看个2例子吧

1.The voluminous personal papers of Thomas Alva Edison reaveal that his inventions typically did not spring to life in a flash of insperation but evolved slowly from previous works.

not 后面是 spring而but 后面是evolved,时态不一致,按照not...but的平行是不可以的,原因是这里是,,,but的用法

2.The plan cause not prosperity but ruin

not后面和but后面是肯定平行的,不论从形式和时态,因为此处是not...but的用法(注意not...but中系动词和实义动词是不能平行的)

看完例题,开始说两者的区别,最大也是最容易区分的区别就是助动词,如果前面是一个否定,那么助动词后不可避免出现not(当然我们不可能为了平行将助动词放在not后面),注意,此处可能并不是一个not...but的并列而是but并列两个动词,此处当然be和实义动词按照平行法则可以平行

你的两个例子无一例外是助动词+not的形式,是but的平行用法,也就是说,你完全可以把否定拿掉,观察平行

73. the human mind is (not) a "blank slate"but instead comprises specialized mental mechanisms that were developed to solve

76.digitizing and analyzing the sound emissions on computers, a team of scientists found that the noise was (not) continuous but consisted of

简单说,就是but平行用法前面出现否定。 

至于instead,副词可以完全无视,至于consisted是形容词,这绝对是...

为了更好地理解,给你两个not...but 用法看看:

prep1-59.   A new genetically engineered papaya was produced not by seed companies who have been motivated by profit, which was the case with most genetically modified crops previously approved for commercial use, but university and United States Department of Agriculture researchers who allowed growers to use it free of charge.

(A) produced not by seed companies who have been motivated by profit, which was the case with most genetically modified crops previously approved for commercial use, but

(B) produced not by profit-motivated seed companies, the case with most genetically modified crops previously approved for commercial use, but

(C) produced not by profit-motivated seed companies, as was the case with most genetically modified crops previously approved for commercial use, but by

(D) not produced by profit-motivated seed companies, which was the case with most genetically modified crops previously approved for commercial use, but was produced by

(E) not produced by seed companies who have been motivated by profit, the case with most genetically modified crops previously approved for commercial use, but by

很漂亮的not + 介词.. but +介词平行,而不是but平行前面否定(很容易看出来),打得我好累啊,希望你懂了,还希望大家泼水讨论!

谢谢指点:原来都在于 be 动词和 not 的特殊位置关系。 把 not...but...看成是一个前带否定的 but 并列也是一个很好的建议。 受益匪浅!


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作者: goyce36    时间: 2008-10-3 21:32

谢谢,我也受益匪浅。

谢谢提醒了我be 省略的问题,我当时没想到啊~


作者: jonathan1987    时间: 2008-10-8 09:15

12楼提醒我了!


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作者: rpch2004    时间: 2008-10-25 16:50
以下是引用小齐在2008-9-29 21:16:00的发言:

73:the human mind is not
  a "blank slate"
  but instead
  comprises

not 位于助动词,系动词,或情态动词后,可以把not..but..看作是一个普通的否定副词not +并列连词but 

此时不是一个固定词组,该句没有强调平行对等,所以是两个独立的单词 

此理论成立否?


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作者: xsyxxgjj    时间: 2008-11-18 00:31

consisted 不是 用来表示被动的,只是过去时态而已。

consist of sth (a) be composed or made up of sth 由某事物组成或构成: The committee consists of ten members. 委员会由十人组成. * a mixture consisting of flour and water 面粉和水的混合物.--oxford 高阶


作者: xsyxxgjj    时间: 2008-11-18 00:32
还有,B选项的were怎么解释?
作者: smartsky11    时间: 2009-3-27 15:36
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作者: jean1280    时间: 2009-6-22 00:08
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作者: alibaba_2009    时间: 2009-8-8 11:03
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作者: 没办法1987    时间: 2009-8-30 16:34
以下是引用AlienX在2008/9/30 13:17:00的发言:
過去分詞**有時候**可作形容詞.
如果consisted不是作形容詞, 那麼
the noise was not continuous but consisted of individual bursts or pops just thousandths of a second long.
應該改為
the noise was not continuous but was consisted of individual bursts or pops just thousandths of a second long.
Handbook of Good English上有提過這種錯誤...跟11th floor提的一樣
可是GMAT常有它自己的看法...
歡迎討論...

版主说是形容词,我有点不赞同

如果是形容词的话 a team found the noise not continuous but consisted of ...

为什么不对,not...but...后面形容词的并列,没有什么问题

所以只能说consisted是动词的过去形式

langman上面

consist W3
                

consist in something

phrasal verb

to be based on or depend on something:

Happiness does not consist in how many possessions you own.

consist of something

phrasal verb

to be formed from two or more things or people:

The buffet consisted of several different Indian dishes.

consist mainly/largely/primarily of somebody/something
            

The audience consisted mainly of teenagers.

consist entirely/solely of somebody/something
            

The area does not consist entirely of rich people, despite popular belief.

还有如果是被动语态更是说不过去,consist是不及物动词,没有被动语态


作者: liuxy1234    时间: 2009-9-15 16:00

LZ的理解是对的,not...but...的平行比较特殊,与not only...but also,both...and...,either...or...等对形式也有严格要求的结构不同,它的平行要求更体现在结构上。


作者: yidiyuehan    时间: 2009-9-15 18:13
越看越深奥, 顶下做个标记

作者: sailimuhu    时间: 2009-9-15 21:14
76题我认为是由于第一个并列结构中有BE(或者BECOME),所以后面一个并列结构中的BE必须省略,consisted就是过去分词,其实是be but (be)并列,不知道说的对不对,请指正!
作者: ivyfeng    时间: 2009-9-20 14:24
虽然觉得那个非not..but结构很有道理(but做连词)但是还是没有人解释清楚C为什么错啊,在C里面就是not...but...后面都是名词的对称形式啊
作者: wyinuk    时间: 2009-9-20 21:00

觉得根本没那么复杂,rather than 不知道和谁比直接扔掉, A,C的that 指代不明确只能选B了


作者: neomatrix    时间: 2009-10-1 15:31
有个问题,我本来觉得B是正确的,但看到后面的“that were developed to solve”,这里的were应该是有问题的吧,因此我只能在剩下的选项里面选,选了个D。

这里的were是legitimate的么?

作者: gsj677    时间: 2009-10-16 12:48
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作者: gsj677    时间: 2009-10-17 12:31
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作者: lorrain_cc    时间: 2009-11-4 19:14
prep73和76:

可以先把not忽略,暂时把它看做是but引领的平行结构,也就是系表结构和v的并列

76:the noise was not continuous but consisted of...中,consisted应该是V的过去形式,也就是the noise consisted of...

73:the human mind is not a blank slate but instead compromises也是一样的道理

也就是平行的一个原则:系表和V
作者: candicelu    时间: 2009-11-4 22:13
小齐是刘苏的学生吧,哈哈,感觉这解释看着好熟

mind isn't a blank slate but instead(adv) comprises....
可以把它看成是一个普通的否定副词not+并列连词but,此时not必须位于助动词系动词或者情态动词之后
其实就相当于,he is not a scientist but knows a lot.
此时but在并列两个动词,你应该就同意了吧
作者: jocker    时间: 2010-6-4 15:40
小齐是刘苏的学生吧,哈哈,感觉这解释看着好熟

mind isn't a blank slate but instead(adv) comprises....
可以把它看成是一个普通的否定副词not+并列连词but,此时not必须位于助动词系动词或者情态动词之后
其实就相当于,he is not a scientist but knows a lot.
此时but在并列两个动词,你应该就同意了吧
-- by 会员 candicelu (2009/11/4 22:13:43)



有些道理!
不过我感觉在做题的时候,看到not...but...这个结构,就会不自然地想到平行。
于是也就会不假思索地把像B这种看似不平行的答案排除掉,那怎么办呢?
求分析==
作者: anythink    时间: 2010-7-22 01:51
B 有错。应该是 "blank state,"。

A 错在 instead that it 多了 that it。

C 错在 "blank state" 后多了个 it。

D 错在 rather than 后多了个 it。

E 错得很多,最明显的是 rather than 后面不应该又来个 that。

B 不是好句,但虽然面目可憎,尚无大过。
作者: zengmengya    时间: 2011-3-3 02:21
这个题只能排除啊,在rather than 和instead of 中,instead 被干掉
然后being出现,rather than 又被干掉
接着只剩了A,B显然这里都不是not...but...的标准形式,自然联想到,but做连词并列两个动词的思路
作者: 米样    时间: 2011-7-14 12:47
consisted 不是 用来表示被动的,只是过去时态而已。
consist of sth (a) be composed or made up of sth 由某事物组成或构成: The committee consists of ten members. 委员会由十人组成. * a mixture consisting of flour and water 面粉和水的混合物.--oxford 高阶
-- by 会员 xsyxxgjj (2008/11/18 0:31:00)



嗯嗯!!!强烈支持这种说法!
作者: 米样    时间: 2011-7-14 12:55
看了前人区别“否定句+but”和“not...but”的帖子,受益匪浅,引起了我的思考。
我觉得要区分二者,其实很简单的,以那位楼主的例题中的句子为例:
如果是not...but...句型的话,我们可以对句子结构有两种形式:
not produced by...,but produced by;或者
produced not by...,but by...
毫无疑问,二者都要求严格的平行。

而对于否定句+BUT,这类的情况,比较简单的比如 he is not a cook but a teacher.大家一看就明白。而像73、76题这样的,be not...but do,这样的结构,大家非常容易掉进平行的误区里。这里要说平行的话,我个人认为“功能平行”就好,而不存在严格的形式平行,只要前后make sense,无歧义,逻辑清晰,简洁,符合各种GMAT的语法规则云云,就是OK的~~
作者: KristenWEI    时间: 2013-9-22 12:28
米样 发表于 2011-7-14 12:55
看了前人区别“否定句+but”和“not...but”的帖子,受益匪浅,引起了我的思考。我觉得要区分二者,其实很 ...

好帖子啊。看到 not。。。but。。想都没想直接往坑里跳啊。。GMAC黑啊。。谢谢各位NN指点。。茅塞顿开。。
作者: lindberghya    时间: 2013-12-25 10:24
KristenWEI 发表于 2013-9-22 12:28
好帖子啊。看到 not。。。but。。想都没想直接往坑里跳啊。。GMAC黑啊。。谢谢各位NN指点。。茅塞顿开。 ...

好贴!细心读下来前辈的思路一下就了然了!拜服!
作者: alexzeze    时间: 2014-11-21 10:53
tianyi_2003 发表于 2008-9-29 00:08
归结到but 和 not...but的用法区别,满麻烦的,先看个2例子吧1.The voluminous personal papers of Thomas  ...

前辈好厉害,果断懂了!!!!
作者: Vanilla_MY    时间: 2015-10-5 23:47
超感谢的  GMAC各种黑好么!!!!!   not...but...果断跳坑啊!!!!!!!!!    现在看来 貌似想成否定句+but的情况要好多了




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