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作者: excellent 时间: 2004-1-21 18:13
标题: [E]OG-129，请指点！
129. In an effort to reduce their inventories, Italian vintners have cut prices; their wines have been priced to sell, and they are.
A.have been priced to sell, and they are
B.are priced to sell, and they have
C.are priced to sell, and they do
D.are being priced to sell, and have
E.had been priced to sell, and they have

请问their wines are priced to sell, and they do.它想说明什么？它这样说的目的是什么？

作者: Snazzy 时间: 2004-1-22 12:35
Italian vintners priced their wines in order to cell them out. = their wines are priced to sell(passive voice)
and they(their wines) do (cell)---> same subject as the one in passive voice

作者: excellent 时间: 2004-1-23 09:34
Snazzy，谢谢！懂了！

作者: halcyon 时间: 2004-1-24 00:31

以下是引用excellent在2004-1-21 18:13:00的发言：
129. In an effort to reduce their inventories, Italian vintners have cut prices; their wines have been priced to sell, and they are.
A.have been priced to sell, and they are
B.are priced to sell, and they have
C.are priced to sell, and they do
D.are being priced to sell, and have
E.had been priced to sell, and they have

请问their wines are priced to sell, and they do.它想说明什么？它这样说的目的是什么？

我认为 they 指代 Italian vintners.

og 中明显要求相同的代词及其相应的物主代词指代相应的指代对象。
如：

83. Any medical test will sometimes fail to detect a condition when it is present and indicate that there is one when it is not.
(A) a condition when it is present and indicate that there is one
(B) when a condition is present and indicate that there is one
(C) a condition when it is present and indicate that it is present
(D) when a condition is present and indicate its presence
(E) the presence of a condition when it is there and indicate its presence
Only choice C, the best answer, produces a sentence in which every pronoun it refers clearly and logically to the noun condition. In choices A and B, the phrase indicate that there is one does not grammatically fit with when it is not because it has no referent. Choices B and D are imprecise in saying that a test will fail to detect when a condition is present, since the issue is the presence and not the timing of the condition. Further, its presence in D leaves the it in when it is not without a logical referent: it must refer to condition, not presence. Choice E repeats this error; also, the presence... when it is there is imprecise and redundant.

130. In a 5-to-4 decision, the Supreme Court ruled that two upstate New York counties owed restitution to three tribes of Oneida Indians for the unlawful seizure of their ancestral lands in the eighteenth century.
(A) that two upstate New York counties owed restitution to three tribes of Oneida Indians for the unlawful seizure of
(B) that two upstate New York counties owed restitution to three tribes of Oneida Indians because of their unlawful seizure of
(C) two upstate New York counties to owe restitution to three tribes of Oneida Indians for their unlawful seizure of
(D) on two upstate New York counties that owed restitution to three tribes of Oneida Indians because they unlawfully seized
(E) on the restitution that two upstate New York counties owed to three tribes of Oneida Indians for the unlawful seizure of
Choice A, the best answer, uses that appropriately to introduce a clause that describes the Supreme Court’s ruling; A also employs the idiomatic phrase restitution... for. In choice B, restitution... because of is not idiomatic. The plural pronouns their in B and C and they in D are confusing as references to counties, especially since their refers to the Oneida in the phrase their ancestral lands. Choices C, D, and E each fail to use that to introduce the clause that explains the Court’s ruling; as a result, the phrasing in those choices is awkward, unidiomatic, and imprecise.

作者: Snazzy 时间: 2004-1-24 10:49
Sorry, halcyon. i am lost. what are those examples for ? can you clarify the point, pls?

作者: halcyon 时间: 2004-1-24 11:33

以下是引用Snazzy在2004-1-24 10:49:00的发言：
Sorry, halcyon. i am lost. what are those examples for ? can you clarify the point, pls?

就是说： “相同的代词及其相应的物主代词指代相应的指代对象。”

比如说， their 只能指代前面 they 的指代对象， its 只能与 it 指代相同（但it 作形式主语除外）。

再如 og 159
159. While depressed property values can hurt some large investors, they are potentially devastating for home-owners, whose equity—in many cases representing a life’s savings—can plunge or even disappear.
(A) they are potentially devastating for homeowners, whose
(B) they can potentially devastate homeowners in that their
(C) for homeowners they are potentially devastating, because their
(D) for homeowners, it is potentially devastating in that their
(E) it can potentially devastate homeowners, whose

In B, C, and D, substituting in that their or because their for whose is wordy and confusing since the antecedent of their might be they, not homeowners.

作者: halcyon 时间: 2004-1-24 11:36
129. 中， they 应该指代 Italian vintners.

作者: 海蓝 时间: 2004-2-1 15:26
嗯，我也觉得最后一个they应该指代Italian vintners，但是我不太明白：

sell的用法是：当sell做及物动词时，应放在卖主的后面，如She sold her old bicycle to me. 当做不及物动词时，放在卖的东西的后面，如The new models of VCD sell like fun.（资料来自现代英汉字典）。

可是在这句话中，题目想表达的意思是：Italian vintners通过削价的方式的确是把酒卖掉了。

如果they指代Italian vintners的话，C选项中and they do就补充全就应该是: and the Italian vintners do sell their wines. 这里面的sell是及物的。但前面出现的be priced to sell中sell是不及物啊。后面的their wines怎么能也被省略掉呢？不符合省略的原则啊～～

不知道我表达清楚了没有，就是说这句话的后半句，前一个sell是不及物，后一个被省略的sell是及物的，后一个sell的对象能一块被省掉吗？

迷惑中。。。牛牛们赐教！

作者: kgg 时间: 2004-2-2 04:25
我想补充全应该是: and the italian vintners do sell their wines at the (priced) price

作者: Snazzy 时间: 2004-2-2 14:18

以下是引用halcyon在2004-1-24 11:33:00的发言：

就是说： “相同的代词及其相应的物主代词指代相应的指代对象。”

比如说， their 只能指代前面 they 的指代对象， its 只能与 it 指代相同（但it 作形式主语除外）。

再如 og 159
159. While depressed property values can hurt some large investors, they are potentially devastating for home-owners, whose equity—in many cases representing a life’s savings—can plunge or even disappear.
(A) they are potentially devastating for homeowners, whose
(B) they can potentially devastate homeowners in that their
(C) for homeowners they are potentially devastating, because their
(D) for homeowners, it is potentially devastating in that their
(E) it can potentially devastate homeowners, whose

In B, C, and D, substituting in that their or because their for whose is wordy and confusing since the antecedent of their might be they, not homeowners.

read again and see what you can get from it.
比如说， their 只能指代前面 they 的指代对象， its 只能与 it 指代相同（但it 作形式主语除外）。OG explanation says it is not OK!

作者: Snazzy 时间: 2004-2-2 14:26

以下是引用海蓝在2004-2-1 15:26:00的发言：
嗯，我也觉得最后一个they应该指代Italian vintners，但是我不太明白：

sell的用法是：当sell做及物动词时，应放在卖主的后面，如She sold her old bicycle to me. 当做不及物动词时，放在卖的东西的后面，如The new models of VCD sell like fun.（资料来自现代英汉字典）。

可是在这句话中，题目想表达的意思是：Italian vintners通过削价的方式的确是把酒卖掉了。

如果they指代Italian vintners的话，C选项中and they do就补充全就应该是: and the Italian vintners do sell their wines. 这里面的sell是及物的。但前面出现的be priced to sell中sell是不及物啊。后面的their wines怎么能也被省略掉呢？不符合省略的原则啊～～

不知道我表达清楚了没有，就是说这句话的后半句，前一个sell是不及物，后一个被省略的sell是及物的，后一个sell的对象能一块被省掉吗？

迷惑中。。。牛牛们赐教！

1, 如果they指代Italian vintners的话 ---> i cannot agree. look at the semicolon, they are two sentences.
2, 前一个sell是不及物，后一个被省略的sell是及物的 ---> how to judge? look at the examples:
The teckets cost too much and wouldn't sell.
Our new products sell very well.

作者: 海蓝 时间: 2004-2-3 01:03

以下是引用Snazzy在2004-2-2 14:26:00的发言：

1, 如果they指代的话 ---> i cannot agree. look at the semicolon, they are two sentences.
2, 前一个sell是不及物，后一个被省略的sell是及物的 ---> how to judge? look at the examples:
The teckets cost too much and wouldn't sell.
Our new products sell very well.

可是，they应该和前面的their指代一致啊~~指代Italian vintners
这样的话，sell只能理解成及物动词~~因为Italian vintners不能被卖掉啊~~

作者: 海蓝 时间: 2004-2-3 23:32
Still confused...
why to choose C?

作者: vincent0330 时间: 2004-2-4 03:19

以下是引用海蓝在2004-2-3 23:32:00的发言：
Still confused...
why to choose C?

129. In an effort to reduce their inventories, Italian vintners have cut prices;
their wines have been priced to sell, and they are.
A.have been priced to sell, and they are
B.are priced to sell, and they have
C.are priced to sell, and they do
D.are being priced to sell, and have
E.had been priced to sell, and they have

分号后的独立句子时态上应一致, 所以选c

作者: cocoabean 时间: 2004-4-30 11:11

In choice C, the best answer, do is correctly used in place of the full verb do sell; in this verb, do is a conjugated form and sell is in the infinitive form, corresponding to its previous use in the sentence (in the phrase priced to sell).

C项的 Do = do sell = do to sell (do 为强调,确实, to 被省略,被省略的sell仍然为vi, 被卖, )

所以 they 为wines, 我认为they 可以指代前面出现的their wines, their 在这是起到承上启下的作用,过渡一下而已, 所以可以不和they一致.

eg, 她的鞋被丢到垃圾箱里了, 它们是被丢了.

作者: rockmax 时间: 2008-7-10 21:40

still no result.

what hell is 'they'presents?

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作者: lugb 时间: 2008-7-10 22:30

作者: 玻璃胶带 时间: 2008-7-10 22:47

我觉得如果是they do 表示 Italian vintners do reduce their inventories.

如果是they have表示 Italian vintners have cut prices.

逻辑上说他们现在标价出售他们的酒,他们确实达到了他们的目的-减少他们的库存.

讨论下~~

作者: rwchinak 时间: 2008-7-12 11:35

感觉they是指代italian vintners，

确实有规定，同一个代词必须指代同一个事物。前面their指代了italian vintners，后面出现的they就必须也指代italian vintners

而且，如果是指代wines，后面应该是and they are

不过，类似于and + they/it/he/you/she + did/do/are/is之类的省略，多数是表达主动的吧？

对sell的用法仍然confused，希望有NN解释下SELL的用法

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