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标题: GWD28-20 A or E? [打印本页]

作者: imtheone 时间: 2008-8-17 17:24
标题: GWD28-20 A or E?

Q20:

In the 1820’s, anthracite coalfields opened in eastern Pennsylvania, and when canals and eventually railroads reached into the region, there were substantial supplies of coal that was exported to the nation’s growing mills, forges, factories, and railways.

when canals and eventually railroads reached into the region, there were substantial supplies of coal that was
once canals and eventually railroads reaching into the region, there were substantial supplies of coal having been
with canals and eventually railroads reaching into the region, there had been substantial supplies of coal
canals and eventually railroads reached into the region, with substantial supplies of coal being
as canals and eventually railroads reached into the region, substantial supplies of coal were

我拿到的答案都是E,结果上网一查，发现去年又有人拿到的答案是A

http://forum.chasedream.com/dispbbs.asp?BoardID=23&ID=270524&replyID=2496234&skin=1

05年也还有人说是E

有谁知道最终的结果么？

精华理由：

我觉得E 的话就造成逻辑意思的不对，因为变成了 suppliers of coal were exported to the nation’s growing mills, forges, factories, and railways. 煤炭供应商出口到了工厂，铸造厂和铁路工厂。

所以不对

支持E.

A: when canals and eventually railroads reached into the region, there were substantial supplies of coal that was罗嗦

看了一堆讨论，就这两个算是key point吧。

作者: imtheone 时间: 2008-8-17 17:30
顶先

作者: imtheone 时间: 2008-8-17 18:11

盼SC强人！

作者: imtheone 时间: 2008-8-19 00:32
真是孤独阿...

作者: imtheone 时间: 2008-8-24 23:47
继续盼

作者: KennyChenzju 时间: 2008-8-25 16:00

我的理解是：

E的确造成了原句逻辑的改变。因为不是supplies被出口，而是coal被出口。A的that was可以省略，虽然比较罗嗦，但语法上来讲是对的

作者: imtheone 时间: 2008-8-26 10:14
我也这样认为，不过很多当年的NN都支持E

作者: yzhao26 时间: 2009-3-12 10:13
up

作者: grape262001 时间: 2009-4-2 19:52
继续UP一下

作者: grape262001 时间: 2009-4-2 20:00

supply有以下的两种用法：

have a good [large] supply of
备有许多

in short supply
供应不足

所以这里我觉得substantial supplies of coal were exported不应该理解成煤的供应是否被出口的问题，而应该理解成大量可供的煤被出口。

但是这样理解的话是不是就把supplies相当于理解成amount或者是deal之类的，相当于，a great deal of。那么加上单数名词是不是就应该用单数的谓语动词？

不过如果是在考场上的，我想我会选E,感觉更简洁。

作者: songlovegt 时间: 2009-4-2 20:49
找到原文出处，和E略有出入
http://www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1G2-2536601339.html

In the 1820s substantial anthracite coal fields opened in eastern
Pennsylvania, and as canals and eventually railroads reached into the
region, substantial supplies became available to the nation’s burgeoning mills, forges, factories, and railways.

比较E

Q20:

In the 1820’s, anthracite coalfields opened in eastern Pennsylvania, and as canals and eventually railroads reached into the region, substantial supplies of coal were exported to the nation’s growing mills, forges, factories, and railways.

作者: songlovegt 时间: 2009-4-2 21:04
此外supply不是供应商的意思，



(Longman)

supply / səˈplaɪ /

    plural supplies

1

    ▶AMOUNT AVAILABLE◀

    [countable]an amount of something that is available to be used

    supply of

I've only got a week's supply of tablets left.

    plentiful/abundant/adequate etc supply

There was a plentiful supply of cheap labour.

The nation's fuel supplies will not last forever.

To protect the food supply , the government ordered the slaughter of affected cattle.

ￚsee also money supply

2

    ▶NECESSARY THINGS◀

    supplies[plural]food, clothes, and
things necessary for daily life or for a particular purpose, especially
for a group of people over a period of time

Supplies were brought in by air.

    vital/essential/emergency supplies

trucks loaded with emergency supplies

    medical/school/cleaning etc supplies


foreign aid used to buy medical supplies

3

    gas/electricity/water etc supply

    a system that is used to supply gas etc

the public water supply

If you fail to pay your bill, you run the risk of having your electricity supply cut off (=stopped) .

4

    ▶ACT OF SUPPLYING◀

[uncountable] when you supply something

    supply of/to

The military government is trying to stop the supply of guns to the rebels.

5

    supply ship/convoy/route etc

a ship etc used for bringing or storing supplies





A 还有一个错误，强调的中心不对

    In the 1820’s, anthracite coalfields opened in eastern Pennsylvania, and when canals and eventually railroads reached into the region, there were substantial supplies of coal that was exported to the nation’s growing mills, forges, factories, and railways.



强调两个中心

    anthracite coalfields opened in eastern Pennsylvania, and there were substantial supplies of coal

一个是开了矿，一个是有必需品，平行不了吧。

作者: JamesYi 时间: 2009-4-2 23:17

在<皇家赌场>里面有台词,

Bond: You get the supply, I'll get the tickets.

你去拿供给品,我去取飞机票,没啥问题吧

作者: songlovegt 时间: 2009-4-2 23:32
强调两个中心

anthracite coalfields opened in eastern Pennsylvania, and there were substantial supplies of coal

一个是开了矿，一个是有必需品，平行不了吧。
“一个是开了矿”叙述了一事情， “一个是有必需品” 强调了客观存在。不平行

反观E

anthracite coalfields opened in eastern Pennsylvania, and substantial supplies of coal were exported to the nation’s growing mills, forges, factories, and railways.

“一个是开了矿”叙述了一事情，“出口到其他地方”也是叙述一事情。平行

作者: skynova 时间: 2010-8-16 22:31
supplies直译为“补给”，在这里supplies of coal 可以理解为“煤炭供给”，因此E并没有改变句意。我觉得A最大的问题就是表自然存在的there were，直接造成了前面的“When...”失去逻辑意义。（既然是自然存在的，就没有什么因为铁道、运河修通的逻辑关系了）

支持选E

作者: 小伊YSY 时间: 2010-8-17 03:25
说说本人的愚见

1.我觉得这里大家都把and看成平行标志要求前后的完全平行，欠妥。这个and与其强调它平行标志的作用，更不如说成是它在句意上起的承接的作用。而且and前后都是句子，并没有语法问题。
意译下：开了矿，然后就有更多供给。
看上去很正常的说。

2.关于supplies of coal，原句中定从修饰coal，很合理：用于出口的煤炭
若到e，变成修饰supplies，变成：用于出口的供给（有点奇怪呀）
再退一步说，如果原文没有不合理，为什么不使用原文呢？

3.ls同学说表自然存在的there were直接导致前面的when从句失去逻辑意义，这点我持相反意见。正是因为是there were，when从句才有意义。
这样比较一下吧：

when canals and eventually railroads reached into the region, there were substantial supplies of coal that was exported to the nation’s growing mills, forges, factories, and railways.
当运河和铁路到达这片（煤田）区域，就会有大量用于出口的煤的供给。

as canals and eventually railroads reached into the region, substantial supplies of coal were exported to the nation’s growing mills, forges, factories, and railways.
当运河和铁路到达这片（煤田）区域，就有大量煤炭供给出口到……

第二句重心是出口这个动词，到达煤田区域和出口似乎关系有点远……
第一句中心是存在，到达煤田区域和有更多的煤炭供给，是有必然关系的，这个“有”正说明，用表自然存在的there were很合理。

4.还有最后一点，我觉得应该提一下，我觉得e中as用的不好。别忘了as有时和when一个意思，也有because的意思。比起when只有一个引导时间的选择，用as不是会相对引起歧义么？被理解成“因为……”

因为上面4点，我支持A
望大家多多指点。

作者: 2008115061 时间: 2010-8-17 08:10
嗯同意楼上的额
supplier才是供应商的意思
LZ在找key points上很正确，但这两个句子的缺点相比较，显然还是要选E 因为supplies无伤大雅，没有改变意思，但A的there be+抽象名词，显然就是wordy and awkard GMAT的思路就是忌讳这种redundant的表达方式

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