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作者: zjxmlily    时间: 2003-5-4 13:27
标题: OG165
165. At Shiprock, New Mexico, a perennially powerful girls' high school basketball team has become a path to college for some and a source of pride for a community where the household incomes of 49 percent of them are below the poverty level.
(A)where the household incomes of 49 percent of them are
(B)where they have 49 percent of the household incomes
(C)where 49 percent of the household incomes are
(D)which has 49 percent of the household incomes
(E)in which 49 percent of them have household incomes
答案是C
C答案的意思应该是指“49%的家庭的收入…………”吧?
可是这个答案我不能理解成“家庭收入中的49%…………”吗?
如果C答案改成where incomes of 49 percent of the household are是否会更好点了?可是这种表达读起来总觉得挺别扭的。

作者: 1stzhang    时间: 2003-5-4 17:14
zjxmlily :
     我们做gmat语法是在比较答案,c是几个答案中最好的答案。我想它的意思是“在这个乡镇,49%的有家庭收入的人低于贫困线”

      “A of B ”的意思不一定就是“B的A ”,而有时是“A中有B的性质”,而在原题中49%的性质就是他们有家庭收入。我不知道我表达清楚没有,请各位补充。
作者: siebel    时间: 2003-5-4 20:23
以下是引用zjxmlily在2003-5-4 13:27:00的发言:

(C)where 49 percent of the household incomes are
如果C答案改成where incomes of 49 percent of the household are是否会更好点了?

Maybe, but not sure.

事实上,49% of the "household incomes"和"incomes of 49% of the household"有完全不同的含义,且后者有歧义。由于后面跟着are below,C这种讲法几乎成了绝版。
作者: hodgechen    时间: 2003-11-21 08:59
这道题目,我就是很迷惑,才搜索出来,但感觉恐怕只有2楼的“模糊语感说”才是最好的解释了。
就好象OG 9 的they believe to be of ,表示一种类属感念,但实际用类属解释就有点牵强,或许最终的解释应该是英语语言习惯的传统性要求。

好比汉语,喝酒
喝多————————————————————喝醉了
喝的多———————————————————喝的多,不一定醉。


ANYWAY,就知道它是对的就可以了,希望自己能记住
TNND,有一种被欺负的无话可说的感觉
晕!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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作者: bluestone1    时间: 2003-12-18 12:31
TNND,有一种被欺负的无话可说的感觉

同感,C 确实存在歧义,但比较一下又只能选它。 这 ETS,怎么说都是它有理 !
作者: qww    时间: 2004-1-13 21:26
以下是引用zjxmlily在2003-5-4 13:27:00的发言:
165. At Shiprock, New Mexico, a perennially powerful girls' high school basketball team has become a path to college for some and a source of pride for a community where the household incomes of 49 percent of them are below the poverty level.
(A)where the household incomes of 49 percent of them are
(B)where they have 49 percent of the household incomes
(C)where 49 percent of the household incomes are
(D)which has 49 percent of the household incomes
(E)in which 49 percent of them have household incomes
答案是C
C答案的意思应该是指“49%的家庭的收入…………”吧?
可是这个答案我不能理解成“家庭收入中的49%…………”吗?
如果C答案改成where incomes of 49 percent of the household are是否会更好点了?可是这种表达读起来总觉得挺别扭的。



这是以前提问的一题,但我还是很困惑,好像对 百分比的表述与一般的有所区别。
请大家帮忙分析分析。同时问此题如何入手?
作者: 晓晓    时间: 2004-1-13 22:43
以下是引用zjxmlily在2003-5-4 13:27:00的发言:
C答案的意思应该是指“49%的家庭的收入…………”吧?
可是这个答案我不能理解成“家庭收入中的49%…………”吗?
  

如果想解释为“家庭收入中的49%…………”
应该为以下这样结构才对吧?
where 49 percent of the household‘s  incomes are

这道题应该用排除法吧?!
作者: turtlechen    时间: 2004-1-14 00:05
以下是引用晓晓在2004-1-13 22:43:00的发言:
如果想解释为“家庭收入中的49%…………”
应该为以下这样结构才对吧?
where 49 percent of the household‘s  incomes are

这道题应该用排除法吧?!

不行!这是双重所有格,有其用法。
http://ccc.commnet.edu/grammar/possessives.htm#double_possessives


作者: maotian    时间: 2004-3-17 12:36
楼上说的这个网址看了受益匪浅。对这个题的解释很有帮助。嗯。
作者: hru    时间: 2004-3-18 14:41
(C) where    49    percent    of    the    household    incomes    are        below    the    poverty    level


a little bit confused. about choice C, we can treat it as     "49 percent of the incomes are .... " ,     so can we translate it into 收入的49%处于贫困线下     or 49% 的收入处于贫困线下. However, it sounds illogical.     Who can explain again. Thanks a lot.


作者: hru    时间: 2004-3-19 13:21
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作者: philikittist    时间: 2004-3-19 16:22
我认为断句的话,应该是                                                     49%            of    ,     household incomes


household incomes 是指这个community各个家庭的收入(即是一系列数据),而不是community的收入总和,也不是某一个家庭的收入,因为它用的是复数而非单数。比如:


在A community有5个families,poverty level 是500元,tom家收入400,mike家600,lisa家700,mary家200,john家600。那这个community就是:40% of household incomes are below the poverty level.


所以,49% of household incomes are below the level是指这些收入数据中的49%在线下,没有歧义。


作者: jnlvo    时间: 2004-3-19 17:18
同意!


作者: hru    时间: 2004-3-20 19:59
I see. Many thanks!
作者: 携隐    时间: 2004-6-17 12:41
知道答案后是可以理解啦。选题前怎么想的到它值得是每个家庭的收入系列啊。ETS明摆着耍我们这些母语非英语的人嘛,太过分了
作者: hpp920    时间: 2004-7-10 03:21

我有新问题: og上说:the use of have in E and of has in D illogically suggests that the community possesses 49% of all the household incomes below the poverty line. 我认为D是ETS说的那个意思,但E不是,你们怎么看呢?

165. At Shiprock, New Mexico, a perennially powerful girls' high school basketball team has become a path to college for some and a source of pride for a community where the household incomes of 49 percent of them are below the poverty level.

(D)which has 49 percent of the household incomes
(E)in which 49 percent of them have household incomes


作者: irenelj78    时间: 2004-8-2 22:10

受益匪浅,这个帖子也不错

http://forum.chasedream.com/dispbbs.asp?BoardID=23&ID=51628


作者: nosmoking    时间: 2004-9-15 15:04

严重同意philikittist从单复数角度的分析,但是断句我认为应该是 49% of  household ,incomes

如果要表达“家庭收入的49%”,turtlechen提出过“双重所有格”的概念,但链接已经无法看到,但根据我的查询,此处不能用“双重所有格”

双重所有格:在表示所属物的名词前有冠词,数词,不定代词或指示代词时, 常用“ of词组+所有格”来表示所有关系,这就构成了双重所有格如:a play of Shakespears (莎士比亚的一部戏剧)。用不用双重所有格有时候意思也是有区别的

a picture of my father's

(属于我父亲的照片)

a picture of my father

(我父亲本人的照片)

那么“家庭收入的49%”似乎应该是用“49 percent of the household income’s ” 表达。但是我认为这种说法是错误的,因为“只有表示有生命的东西的名词所有格才在名词后加’s”,所以双重所有格只是对于有生命的东西才存在。表示无生命 东西的名词一般与of构成词组表示所有关系, 如:the color of the shoes等。所以我认为“49 percent of the household income ”(注意income这里是单数)就可以了,单复数是关键(income通常都是单数)。


作者: advantage    时间: 2005-6-28 20:39

既然说是   below the poverty level 肯定是指49%的家庭


作者: mmfoolish    时间: 2005-11-17 11:45
in which 和where有什么区别呢?是否太钻牛角尖?谢谢
作者: titatita    时间: 2006-2-1 22:01
以下是引用zjxmlily在2003-5-4 13:27:00的发言:
165. At Shiprock, New Mexico, a perennially powerful girls' high school basketball team has become a path to college for some and a source of pride for a community where the household incomes of 49 percent of them are below the poverty level.
(A)where the household incomes of 49 percent of them are
(B)where they have 49 percent of the household incomes
(C)where 49 percent of the household incomes are
(D)which has 49 percent of the household incomes
(E)in which 49 percent of them have household incomes
答案是C
C答案的意思应该是指“49%的家庭的收入…………”吧?
可是这个答案我不能理解成“家庭收入中的49%…………”吗?
如果C答案改成where incomes of 49 percent of the household are是否会更好点了?可是这种表达读起来总觉得挺别扭的。


我觉得不能这么改


49 percent of the household incomes 是“49%的家庭的收入…………”表达的是社区中一个一个家庭的概念,


一个community有10个家庭.总共收入100万,那么c的意思就是,4.9个家庭的收入在贫困线以下


改成where incomes of 49 percent of the household are就变成49%得家庭得收入了逻辑意思改变,是不是产生一种歧义


就是49%的家庭的收入总和在贫困线以下?那可真是穷到姥姥家了.


是不是还有一种歧义,就是一个household里住了10个人where incomes of 49 percent of the household 就是4.9个人的收入在贫困线下?


相比之下还是答案c比较清晰,没有歧义


请指正




作者: yhq110    时间: 2006-3-15 23:18
以下是引用hpp920在2004-7-10 3:21:00的发言:

我有新问题: og上说:the use of have in E and of has in D illogically suggests that the community possesses 49% of all the household incomes below the poverty line. 我认为D是ETS说的那个意思,但E不是,你们怎么看呢?


165. At Shiprock, New Mexico, a perennially powerful girls' high school basketball team has become a path to college for some and a source of pride for a community where the household incomes of 49 percent of them are below the poverty level.


(D)which has 49 percent of the household incomes
(E)in which 49 percent of them have household incomes


同问,请NN解答,多谢!!!


作者: pengfei1102    时间: 2006-3-22 22:17
yun yunyunyunyun
作者: yhq110    时间: 2006-3-25 07:55
顶!!!!希望NN出手解答啊!!!!!
作者: xuseraph    时间: 2006-6-6 00:43
以下是引用yhq110在2006-3-15 23:18:00的发言:

同问,请NN解答,多谢!!!

意思是指这个社区的贫困线以下的人口占了总贫困线下人口的49%。而原文只说该小区有49%的家庭收入在贫困线以下


作者: KATIEUS    时间: 2006-12-31 12:29
终于明白了!谢谢!
作者: coolzbq    时间: 2007-12-2 11:42

感谢23楼的解释 受益匪浅


作者: lecherous    时间: 2008-7-29 18:01
晕死,23楼的解释居然被他自己删掉了?
作者: jessie0317    时间: 2008-9-19 20:20
以下是引用philikittist在2004-3-19 16:22:00的发言:
我认为断句的话,应该是              49%   of ,  household incomes
household incomes 是指这个community各个家庭的收入(即是一系列数据),而不是community的收入总和,也不是某一个家庭的收入,因为它用的是复数而非单数。比如:
        
在A community有5个families,poverty level 是500元,tom家收入400,mike家600,lisa家700,mary家200,john家600。那这个community就是:40% of household incomes are below the poverty level.
        
所以,49% of household incomes are below the level是指这些收入数据中的49%在线下,没有歧义。

感谢NN


作者: lcy19812000    时间: 2009-2-5 23:08
以下是引用hpp920在2004-7-10 3:21:00的发言:

我有新问题: og上说:the use of have in E and of has in D illogically suggests that the community possesses 49% of all the household incomes below the poverty line. 我认为D是ETS说的那个意思,但E不是,你们怎么看呢?

165. At Shiprock, New Mexico, a perennially powerful girls' high school basketball team has become a path to college for some and a source of pride for a community where the household incomes of 49 percent of them are below the poverty level.

(D)which has 49 percent of the household incomes
(E)in which 49 percent of them have household incomes

I agree with you. How about NNs?


作者: lcy19812000    时间: 2009-2-5 23:36

考点:逻辑,指代。

houeshold incomes是复数名词,清楚地指一份一份的income,避免了指所有income的数字之和的歧异。

因为community不是集合名词,不能表全体成员并接复数谓语,所以A,B和E中的they/them无指代,错。B和D逻辑错,选C。

各选项的意思:

A和E表达的是全体社区人员中占49%这么多个人的家庭收入低于贫困线;

B和D表达该社区拥有(全市?全国?)所有低于贫困线收入份数的49%;

C表达该社区中的家庭收入中占到49%那么多的份数低于贫困线。


作者: tracy2009    时间: 2009-5-21 13:53
以下是引用mmfoolish在2005-11-17 11:45:00的发言:
in which 和where有什么区别呢?是否太钻牛角尖?谢谢

同问, 请问该题中的in which 和 where 有什么区别呢?谢谢


作者: spings    时间: 2017-1-7 16:15
philikittist 发表于 2004-3-19 16:22
我认为断句的话,应该是              ...

同意!               




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