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作者: wharton10    时间: 2008-6-20 13:40
标题: Wharton10 taking questions(校园秋色)

Dear all,

Please feel free to drop questions here. We would try to help you out. Welcome to send your offline questions to us.

Before asking new questions, please check:

1. Wharton Website: http://www.wharton.upenn.edu/mba/ ,
 

especially Wharton Students to Students Forum
  http://s2s.wharton.upenn.edu/wh-wharton

2. Wharton Class 2008 Taking Questions: http://forum.chasedream.com/dispbbs.asp?boardID=13&ID=185469&page=1

Thanks,

Wharton 2010

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作者: plato1983    时间: 2008-6-20 13:55
Wow,沙发,先来几个问题:WHARTON今年录取了多少大陆的申请人?他们的平均G,T是多少,来自的各行业占比例各是多少?还有WHARTON现在的学费多少?先就这么多把
作者: ishousi    时间: 2008-6-20 14:06

welcome!

ls动作好快,期待答案ing~ 学费就不用这里问啦,主要是基本生活费1年到底会用多少?


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作者: jameswujiana    时间: 2008-6-20 14:34
以下是引用plato1983在2008-6-20 13:55:00的发言:
Wow,沙发,先来几个问题:WHARTON今年录取了多少大陆的申请人?他们的平均G,T是多少,来自的各行业占比例各是多少?还有WHARTON现在的学费多少?先就这么多把

wharton每年录取的大陆学生在30左右吧。G/T平均成绩请参考学校网站,如果你的成绩在学校统计数字80%range内就不会有太大的问题。各行各业的申请人都有,还是consulting和finance占大多数的,这一点应该所有商学院都类似。

学费的话在学校网站可以查到,大约每年递增5-10%。

另外两点:

1 请申请的同学多做一些功课,很多信息在各种杂志和学校网站上是可以查得到的。

2 我有一些类似的问题问上面发问的同学(请问贵校/贵专业/贵班/贵宿舍高考语文/数学的平均成绩是多少?来自全国各省市的人各占多少比例?)呵呵,也不是太好回答吧。


作者: jameswujiana    时间: 2008-6-20 14:42
以下是引用ishousi在2008-6-20 14:06:00的发言:

welcome!

ls动作好快,期待答案ing~ 学费就不用这里问啦,主要是基本生活费1年到底会用多少?


同问。


作者: plato1983    时间: 2008-6-20 15:10
以下是引用jameswujiana在2008-6-20 14:34:00的发言:

wharton每年录取的大陆学生在30左右吧。G/T平均成绩请参考学校网站,如果你的成绩在学校统计数字80%range内就不会有太大的问题。各行各业的申请人都有,还是consulting和finance占大多数的,这一点应该所有商学院都类似。

学费的话在学校网站可以查到,大约每年递增5-10%。

另外两点:

1 请申请的同学多做一些功课,很多信息在各种杂志和学校网站上是可以查得到的。

2 我有一些类似的问题问上面发问的同学(请问贵校/贵专业/贵班/贵宿舍高考语文/数学的平均成绩是多少?来自全国各省市的人各占多少比例?)呵呵,也不是太好回答吧。

多谢指点!但学校网站上只有总的,查不到中国大陆学生的总体情况的把。


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作者: wharton10    时间: 2008-6-20 15:10
以下是引用plato1983在2008-6-20 13:55:00的发言:
Wow,沙发,先来几个问题:WHARTON今年录取了多少大陆的申请人?他们的平均G,T是多少,来自的各行业占比例各是多少?还有WHARTON现在的学费多少?先就这么多把

1. I am sorry I have no idea of the exact number of Chinese admits. maybe 20? correct me if I am wrong

2. we don't have statistic data on hand right now, and will update when it is available. Besides, you could ask Wharton adcom directly when they come to hold a reception here.

Moreover, my suggestion would be "just try it". Wharton is a great school after all.  You won't regret if enrolled. The profile of Chinese students should keep changing over the years and has little relevance to the individual.

3. around $70,000 per year (est.)


作者: wharton10    时间: 2008-6-20 15:14
以下是引用ishousi在2008-6-20 14:06:00的发言:

welcome!

ls动作好快,期待答案ing~ 学费就不用这里问啦,主要是基本生活费1年到底会用多少?


We are proud of our school and assume you are interested in it as well. Besides we should be more active to address your questions before the semester. So pop up your questions asap

Regarding the expense, you could check the wharton website. there should be some reference number.


作者: wharton10    时间: 2008-6-20 15:16
以下是引用plato1983在2008-6-20 15:10:00的发言:

多谢指点!但学校网站上只有总的,查不到中国大陆学生的总体情况的把。Taking questions的人呢?em10]


Jianan is my classmate!


作者: beyond08    时间: 2008-6-20 15:34

I heard from someone that Wharton prefers candidates who have long time W/E.

Is that mean most of the admitted students from mainland China have around 5 years W/E.

Then I'm curious about the background or even some details about those who only have less than 3 years W/E and finally admitted by Wharton. Where they came from and what made them outstand in the application pool?

Many thanks~


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作者: plato1983    时间: 2008-6-20 15:35
以下是引用wharton10在2008-6-20 15:16:00的发言:

Jianan is my classmate!

Oh, no wonder.I heard that Wharton prefers applicants with more working experience. So I wanna know how many years have you guys been working before being admitted!

And many thanks to your patient responses!


作者: beyond08    时间: 2008-6-20 15:44
以下是引用plato1983在2008-6-20 15:35:00的发言:

Oh, no wonder.I heard that Wharton prefers applicants with more working experience. So I wanna know how many years have you guys been working before being admitted!

And many thanks to your patient responses!

Hands shake. We almost ask the same question at the same time~


作者: plato1983    时间: 2008-6-20 15:51
以下是引用beyond08在2008-6-20 15:44:00的发言:

Hands shake. We almost ask the same question at the same time~

Haha, yes buddy.Just one minute after you.


作者: josephhe    时间: 2008-6-20 16:31
以下是引用plato1983在2008-6-20 13:55:00的发言:
Wow,沙发,先来几个问题:WHARTON今年录取了多少大陆的申请人?他们的平均G,T是多少,来自的各行业占比例各是多少?还有WHARTON现在的学费多少?先就这么多把

这个帖子好早啊。有很多情况现在无法给你答复,不好意思,不过等我们到学校,并且作了一定统计之后,我们会来更新的。

1,关于大陆的offer人数问题,很多人抱怨今年好像给的少,我想以我们掌握到目前为止的新生人数来看,我们并不觉得比往年的人数少。可能因为今年新生有些比较低调,并没有来报喜的缘故吧。

2, 关于g,t的问题,我想只要你在学校的大范围里面,一般就不能算劣势了。毕竟在我个人看来,gt只是一个小门槛而已。

3,关于行业分布,不好意思,现在我们还没有作过中国录取者的行业分布,很难给你答案。不过,diversity还是学校要保持的一个重要要素。并没有出现某一方面过分集中的情况。

4,学费的情况,学校刚刚新更新了budget,包括住宿等基本生活费用和学费,大约8万美金。今年好像所有其他学校也涨价了。

先到这里吧,我们到学校之后再作细节更新。谢谢


作者: plato1983    时间: 2008-6-20 22:09

十分感谢楼上耐心的解答


作者: realliquan    时间: 2008-6-20 22:49
以下是引用plato1983在2008-6-20 15:51:00的发言:

Haha, yes buddy.Just one minute after you.

我并不知道所有人的情况 单单根据我目前了解到的情况说一下 (同意Joseph,等到我们入学,相信会有更加准确权威的回答公布)

一大部分今年入学的中国同学都具有5年以上的工作经验 行业分布很广泛

至于5年以下的 甚至2,3年的同学,也有一些的 但是给我的感觉他们的共同特点都是--及其出色! 不管从教育背景看还是工作背景看

用某些人的话来说 他们是一些一路披着光环长大的人士

希望回答了你的问题


作者: ishousi    时间: 2008-6-21 10:47
请问据各位了解,wharton对传统行业以外的工作经验怎么看?比如自己创业,或者是边上班边兼职这样的经历?对申请有没有正面帮助呢?如果创业不是很成功呢? 
作者: chase_2008    时间: 2008-6-21 10:48

请问WHARTON中国学生就业状况?


作者: josephhe    时间: 2008-6-23 08:28
以下是引用ishousi在2008-6-21 10:47:00的发言:
请问据各位了解,wharton对传统行业以外的工作经验怎么看?比如自己创业,或者是边上班边兼职这样的经历?对申请有没有正面帮助呢?如果创业不是很成功呢? 

学校从来是鼓励不同背景的人来申请的,也会根据每年的情况来录取不同背景的学生。所以我想不管是传统行业的背景,还是你所谓的传统行业以外的背景,只要这当中体现你的特质,是可以让人了解你正个人的,就应该是有正面帮助的。

另外,创业本身就没有100%全部成功的,即使失败,你也应该会从中得到些许的经验。所以对于你不太成功的创业经验,我想只要你可以从中得到对自己将来有用的东西,那么不管是申请学校也好,还是对你以后的事业也好,都是有帮助的。


作者: josephhe    时间: 2008-6-23 08:31
以下是引用chase_2008在2008-6-21 10:48:00的发言:

请问WHARTON中国学生就业状况?

对不起,我们这一届目前为止还没有入学,更还没有开始internship或者full-time job的寻找,所以我们现在没有办法给你答案。

然而,如果你要找的是前几届中国学生的就业情况。你可以翻阅CD上几届的帖子。

谢谢。


作者: jelty    时间: 2008-6-23 20:32
just curious: anyone in that joint lauder program?


作者: realliquan    时间: 2008-6-23 21:51

we dont actually know anybody from China mainland who have joined Lauder in our batch.

however, we know there are lots of foreigner who worked in China and joined Lauder China Trek after admission, they are from Spain, US, UK, etc.

We had a event with lauder candidates of 2010 China Trek several weeks ago, they told me that probably you are not eligible for lauder China trek if you registered yourself as a China mainland student, but you can try other treks, which have been setup for most of the emerging markets, such as south america, russia, etc.


作者: josephhe    时间: 2008-6-23 23:09
以下是引用jelty在2008-6-23 20:32:00的发言:
just curious: anyone in that joint lauder program?

Lauder program combines a Wharton MBA, a Master‘s in International Studies from Upenn, and customized language training. It is for those who  speak a second language(other than their mother language) and want to learn the art of communicating and conducting business in that language.

So, if you can speak a third language such as Japanese or French(I guess your mother language is Chinese), and would like to pursue your career in these cultures, Lauder program is ideal for you.

And, for the enterance into this program, you have to show your superb proficiency on the third language, because the proficiency assessment tests are requested in the admission process. (I met all Lauder Japanese trek classmates last week, their Japanese astonished all my Japanese classmates.Some of them can even speak Chinese every well, though he is a American in Lauder Japanese trek.)


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作者: jelty    时间: 2008-6-24 09:05
josephhe & realliquan,

Thanks for kindly reply.

btw, are you guys doing intern now ?  if you happen to be in nyc, maybe we can have a drink together.


作者: vickiyan    时间: 2008-6-26 17:58
以下是引用chase_2008在2008-6-21 10:48:00的发言:

请问WHARTON中国学生就业状况?

08届就业情况不错,大多数都回国了。以下数据基本是我印象中的,可能不是绝对准确,在国内的也不完全是China Passport Holder,有部分香港、台湾和拿美国护照的中国同学

上海:Consulting 4,Corporate 2,PE 3,Startup 1

北京:Consulting 3,PE 1,Corporate 1,Investment Banking 1

广东:Startup 1

香港:Consulting 2,Invesetment Banking 7,Investment Management 2

新加坡:PE 1,Private Banking 1

美国:Investment Banking 2,Corporate 3,Investment Management 3,Consulting 3,Startup 1,Private Banking 1

欧洲:PE 2


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作者: 变心1122    时间: 2008-6-27 12:27
以下是引用ishousi在2008-6-21 10:47:00的发言:
请问据各位了解,wharton对传统行业以外的工作经验怎么看?比如自己创业,或者是边上班边兼职这样的经历?对申请有没有正面帮助呢?如果创业不是很成功呢? 

Why not think from a different perspective? Non-traditional background or experience can help you stand out from the huge competitive applicant pool, but you need know how to take advantage of it.

Personally I think Wharton really cares about the diversity of student body. This year Wharton recruited at least two people with entrepreneurial background, including me. Statistics shows that more than 90% startups fail, actually my business is not successful yet. The thing is, the school wants to judge your personality, capability and potential  through your accomplishments, experience, and, more importantly, your learning and self-improving in the course of your academic & career paths. Your background and experience are only the material or platform where you show yourself in all the ways.

Every coin has two sides, so there is no good or bad background & experience, please just try to demonstrate yourself from a positive perspective.


作者: zhezhe32    时间: 2008-6-29 20:51

各位大师,请教一下:

我的本科学位是在专科毕业以后业余半工半读拿到的。07年拿到的学位,今年想申请沃顿。有4年的工作经验,其中3年是半工半读,这种情况下是否可以申请?

因为学的是会计专业,作了2年的会计,但是现在做业务,如果申请会计金融方向是否可以?

我准备考11月的GMAT是否太晚?TOFEL听说今年的都爆满了,如果明年1月考来急今年申请08年的吗?


作者: josephhe    时间: 2008-7-1 13:06
以下是引用zhezhe32在2008-6-29 20:51:00的发言:

各位大师,请教一下:

我的本科学位是在专科毕业以后业余半工半读拿到的。07年拿到的学位,今年想申请沃顿。有4年的工作经验,其中3年是半工半读,这种情况下是否可以申请?

因为学的是会计专业,作了2年的会计,但是现在做业务,如果申请会计金融方向是否可以?

我准备考11月的GMAT是否太晚?TOFEL听说今年的都爆满了,如果明年1月考来急今年申请08年的吗?

If you received a bachelor‘s degree upon completion of a college-level education equivalent to a 4-year American undergraduate degree, you are eligible to apply to Wharton’s MBA program.

The second question is about your career vision. If you have mature consideration and clear image about your future, it will be OK.

As long as you can submit your score before application deadline, it will be safe.

I suggest that you do your research first! There is plenty of information on the Wharton website.


作者: zhezhe32    时间: 2008-7-2 21:33
以下是引用zhezhe32在2008-6-29 20:51:00的发言:

各位大师,请教一下:

我的本科学位是在专科毕业以后业余半工半读拿到的。07年拿到的学位,今年想申请沃顿。有4年的工作经验,其中3年是半工半读,这种情况下是否可以申请?

因为学的是会计专业,作了2年的会计,但是现在做业务,如果申请会计金融方向是否可以?

我准备考11月的GMAT是否太晚?TOFEL听说今年的都爆满了,如果明年1月考来急今年申请08年的吗?

If you received a bachelor‘s degree upon completion of a college-level education equivalent to a 4-year American undergraduate degree, you are eligible to apply to Wharton’s MBA program.

The second question is about your career vision. If you have mature consideration and clear image about your future, it will be OK.

As long as you can submit your score before application deadline, it will be safe.

I suggest that you do your research first! There is plenty of information on the Wharton website.

Actually, my bachelor's degree certification is totally same as the out off graduated student's. Just study period on my certification is 3 years. 1 year shorter, would it be taken care by Wharton administator.

For my career vision, I havent finalied what I want to do. I would think it over.

Thanks a lot 


作者: littleca    时间: 2008-7-2 23:19
以下是引用zhezhe32在2008-7-2 21:33:00的发言:

Actually, my bachelor's degree certification is totally same as the out off graduated student's. Just study period on my certification is 3 years. 1 year shorter, would it be taken care by Wharton administator.

For my career vision, I havent finalied what I want to do. I would think it over.

Thanks a lot 

According to Wharton website, one of the minimum requirements to apply is "completion of an undergraduate program in an accredited U.S. college or its equivalent in another country", which is not confined to a four year degree. So personally I feel it should be fine as long as  your degree is an accredited one.  But you'd better drop an email to the admission office explaining your situtation and asking for authoritative answer.


作者: chase_2008    时间: 2008-7-3 23:20

请问WHARTON在吸引IT背景的人申请方面有什么特点么?

学校会提供那些program 或者一些特点来使得将tech作为未来career goal的人可以学到东西?


作者: littleca    时间: 2008-7-7 01:23

You may check http://emertech.wharton.upenn.edu/  and look for whatever interests you. You may also have a look at Wharton's mba website which provides a comprehensive list of core courses, 19 specializations and nearly 200 electives, among which I believe you will find something tech-related. 

As to programs, Wharton offers BBA, MBA, EMBA, PHD and Executive Training programs.

I don't know whether Wharton puts extra efforts in attracting applicants with hi-tech background, but  many ex-engineers, ex-scientists, and ex-project managers enroll in Wharton every year so I guess there must be something in school that they want to and can learn.

But seriously, why pursue MBA if tech is your career goal?


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作者: chase_2008    时间: 2008-7-7 16:09
why do you think tech career goal is in conflict with MBA?
作者: josephhe    时间: 2008-7-7 18:14
以下是引用chase_2008在2008-7-7 16:09:00的发言:
why do you think tech career goal is in conflict with MBA?

I am sorry. Maybe you misunderstood the saying of littleca.

We just suggest that you consider and research how much a MBA education can help you in general, if you want to contribute your future career to the technology industry. In fact, lots of Wharton students are interested in High tech industry. We have tech club in our community, and the school holds many siminars about new technology and innovations.


作者: littleca    时间: 2008-7-7 18:46

If your career vision is "management" in tech sector, you may benefit from MBA study. Otherwise, even top MBA programs cannot provide resources to assist you to publish papers on Nature, or become an IEEE fellow.


作者: chase_2008    时间: 2008-7-8 09:54
josephhe

Thanks, I know Wharton own a tech club and browse its website.

my concern is what is the unique advantage about Wharton on this compared to other biz schools?


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作者: chase_2008    时间: 2008-7-8 11:46
比如WHARTON的财务很强 可以帮助TECH人更多理解财务? 或者WHARTON会给TECH人更多的concern?
作者: 变心1122    时间: 2008-7-8 14:06

To: Chase_2008

个人意见:

Wharton MBA除了在finance方面巨强以外,她的一些其他特性能够保证以各种方向为职业目标的人获得各种资源与支持:(1)最严厉的教学培养出学生最扎实的business foundation;(2)最大的alumni network给学生提供职业发展的巨大的全球性的资源网络,例如:你有tech背景,并且想成立一个tech start-up,你能从校友中找到许许多多的潜在投资个人/机构;(3)最大、最多元化的学生构成,能够给学生带来多角度多方位的学习与锻炼机会。

从正面理解的话,wharton的tech方面不是她最强的部分,而你实际上已经具备了相当的tech背景和资源,则wharton正好可以为你提供其他各方面的资源与支持,使你的实力更均衡和全面;从反面考虑的话,如果你只想和tech领域的人共同学习、共同工作或创业,你可以选择更加focus在tech领域的学校,例如:MIT等。


作者: jnjduanlian    时间: 2008-7-8 15:15

求教各位已经“进去”的银:

我想了解下沃顿healthcare的情况,网站看过了,想听听前辈的评价,与HBS相比之优势。

我的基本情况是:

27,M,Mgr of Johnson&Johnson(China)

毕业于国内Top10综合大学,医药专业背景 ,4年工作经验

本科期间获得过全国大学生商业计划大赛一等奖;做过Unicef的志愿者

G720,IBT105

请问这样的背景对于沃顿是否太过于普通了?


作者: littleca    时间: 2008-7-8 15:45

To Chase 2008: I believe Wharton treats all students equally and fairly.

To jnjduanlian: I've heard from a second year student that healthcare is one of Wharton's strongest concentrations. Is there anything particular you want to know?


作者: jnjduanlian    时间: 2008-7-8 16:58

谢谢littleca,主要是想了解一下被沃顿healthcare录取的来自大陆的学生都是些什么背景,以及年龄。因为感觉沃顿不像HBS那样喜欢年轻人


作者: 光明正大的贼    时间: 2008-7-9 12:10

请问,有没有mainland的,申到Wharton和ksg的双学位,是什么背景呢?

或者读这个双学位的,都大概是什么背景呢?

谢谢:)


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作者: wharton10    时间: 2008-7-10 16:49
以下是引用jnjduanlian在2008-7-8 16:58:00的发言:

谢谢littleca,主要是想了解一下被沃顿healthcare录取的来自大陆的学生都是些什么背景,以及年龄。因为感觉沃顿不像HBS那样喜欢年轻人

so you are saying we are all old people .... :<


作者: wharton10    时间: 2008-7-10 16:51
以下是引用vickiyan在2008-6-26 17:58:00的发言:

08届就业情况不错,大多数都回国了。以下数据基本是我印象中的,可能不是绝对准确,在国内的也不完全是China Passport Holder,有部分香港、台湾和拿美国护照的中国同学

上海:Consulting 4,Corporate 2,PE 3,Startup 1

北京:Consulting 3,PE 1,Corporate 1,Investment Banking 1

广东:Startup 1

香港:Consulting 2,Invesetment Banking 7,Investment Management 2

新加坡:PE 1,Private Banking 1

美国:Investment Banking 2,Corporate 3,Investment Management 3,Consulting 3,Startup 1,Private Banking 1

欧洲:PE 2


师姐都出山了, 太荣幸了
作者: wharton10    时间: 2008-7-10 16:56
以下是引用chase_2008在2008-7-3 23:20:00的发言:

请问WHARTON在吸引IT背景的人申请方面有什么特点么?

学校会提供那些program 或者一些特点来使得将tech作为未来career goal的人可以学到东西?

The goal of biz school is to develop professional manager. then what do you think wharton can offer you for the career development?

Btw, i would suggest you to contact some of Wharton students who are also interested in / focusing on high tech . you might find their contacts on the wharton website / High tech club , raise question on the student to student forum...


作者: bobzhu73    时间: 2008-7-16 04:03
可能这个问题比较弱
如果我在申请的时候说,我的major是health care  ,入学后可不可以改成finance or something else,
还是你在application里说自己是health care  ,以后就不可以改了。
还是MBA根本就没major之分,决定major实在入学以后自己定的?
作者: chase_2008    时间: 2008-7-16 17:16
Is there any Wharton student interaction session hold in shanghai, i know there will be one in bj at 19th.
作者: littleca    时间: 2008-7-19 20:58
以下是引用bobzhu73在2008-7-16 4:03:00的发言:
可能这个问题比较弱
如果我在申请的时候说,我的major是health care  ,入学后可不可以改成finance or something else,
还是你在application里说自己是health care  ,以后就不可以改了。
还是MBA根本就没major之分,决定major实在入学以后自己定的?

Of course you have every right to change your career vision  In fact, which major you will be granted upon graduation depends on what courses you take at school.
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作者: littleca    时间: 2008-7-19 21:42
以下是引用光明正大的贼在2008-7-9 12:10:00的发言:

请问,有没有mainland的,申到Wharton和ksg的双学位,是什么背景呢?

或者读这个双学位的,都大概是什么背景呢?

谢谢:)


So far I haven't heard from any one from mainland China that he/she will enroll in the MBA/MPA joint degree program. Will update the info if we find any when class begins.


作者: 变心1122    时间: 2008-7-21 10:55
以下是引用chase_2008在2008-7-16 17:16:00的发言:
Is there any Wharton student interaction session hold in shanghai, i know there will be one in bj at 19th.

We held wharton student-applicant interaction meeting at end of June (6-29) in Shanghai, with over one hunderd attendees.


作者: 变心1122    时间: 2008-7-21 11:18
以下是引用光明正大的贼在2008-7-9 12:10:00的发言:

请问,有没有mainland的,申到Wharton和ksg的双学位,是什么背景呢?

或者读这个双学位的,都大概是什么背景呢?

谢谢:)


I know there is dual degree program for MIT Sloan's MBA and Harvard KSG's MPA, and some one from China will enroll in this three-year program this year.

BTW, I have no idea about Wharton and KSG dual degree program or any students who did or will do it. According to Wharton website, wharton provides opportunity of pursuing another degree, which, however, is mainly from schools within Upenn.


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作者: ecoliboy    时间: 2008-7-21 21:59
以下是引用jnjduanlian在2008-7-8 15:15:00的发言:

求教各位已经“进去”的银:

我想了解下沃顿healthcare的情况,网站看过了,想听听前辈的评价,与HBS相比之优势。

我的基本情况是:

27,M,Mgr of Johnson&Johnson(China)

毕业于国内Top10综合大学,医药专业背景 ,4年工作经验

本科期间获得过全国大学生商业计划大赛一等奖;做过Unicef的志愿者

G720,IBT105

请问这样的背景对于沃顿是否太过于普通了?

I am Wharton 09 applicant, also eyeing HCM. I would say that your background is sufficient. The key here is to write great essays in which you can lay out your career goals,  articulate why Wharton HCM will help you achieve those goals, and show uniqueness in your experience (i.e. what you can contribute to the Wharton community). As is always said by Wharton ad com, the admission review is a "holistic" process. Go figure.

As to comparison with HBS, I think Wharton HCM is far stronger than the counterpart at HBS.


作者: mateicbill    时间: 2008-7-24 23:09
agree w/ ecoliboy

作者: ustc9718    时间: 2008-7-30 17:11
感谢热心的WHARTON的前辈!Really appreciate your help.
我有几个关于我个人申请的疑惑:
- 背景是,02年计算机专业和科技英语专业学位,到09年入学时算7年工作经验,一直都在管理软件公司(非外企,主要是ERP/CRM等方案)做海外市场和销售,其中是5年是外派香港,GMAT是710/5.0,GPA是75/100和78/100。
- 之后想转管理咨询,我在ERP项目中有大量的案例,都是关于管理信息化的项目。
这样我需要在哪方面挖掘,或者说包装,我的package,才能增加机会呢? THANKS!

作者: mateicbill    时间: 2008-7-30 20:45
why mba? why wharton (or any other school)? why now? your long- and short-term goals? your leadership? team experience?

作者: mmm734    时间: 2008-7-31 03:13

各位大大,请问今年的wharton的recommendation form在哪里下载呢?我的推荐人想提前看看,包括我自己也想开始准备了

多谢各位大大


作者: 变心1122    时间: 2008-7-31 10:44
以下是引用mmm734在2008-7-31 3:13:00的发言:

各位大大,请问今年的wharton的recommendation form在哪里下载呢?我的推荐人想提前看看,包括我自己也想开始准备了

多谢各位大大

You cannot download the recommendation form until you register an account and official start your application.


作者: 变心1122    时间: 2008-7-31 10:49
以下是引用ustc9718在2008-7-30 17:11:00的发言:
感谢热心的WHARTON的前辈!Really appreciate your help.
我有几个关于我个人申请的疑惑:
- 背景是,02年计算机专业和科技英语专业学位,到09年入学时算7年工作经验,一直都在管理软件公司(非外企,主要是ERP/CRM等方案)做海外市场和销售,其中是5年是外派香港,GMAT是710/5.0,GPA是75/100和78/100。
- 之后想转管理咨询,我在ERP项目中有大量的案例,都是关于管理信息化的项目。
这样我需要在哪方面挖掘,或者说包装,我的package,才能增加机会呢? THANKS!

your background is pretty good, such as double-degree, HK w/e, ERP stories, which can be associated to consulting...

Dig yourself deep, find your strenthes, show your best sides, including both inside work and outside work.


作者: ustc9718    时间: 2008-7-31 11:10

谢谢变心兄!你觉得academic方面,GMAT/GPA/UNDERGRADUATE UNI,这一块算是SAFE吗?本科学校老美是只认北清复交的吗?我本本在中科大的,据说老美都不知道。


作者: 变心1122    时间: 2008-7-31 12:21
以下是引用ustc9718在2008-7-31 11:10:00的发言:

谢谢变心兄!你觉得academic方面,GMAT/GPA/UNDERGRADUATE UNI,这一块算是SAFE吗?本科学校老美是只认北清复交的吗?我本本在中科大的,据说老美都不知道。

You cannot change your GPA/UNDERGRADUATE, so don't waste time worrying. If possible, a higher GMAT can make you either safer or stronger.

You kidding? Your college is much much better and more famous than mine, so, no worry at all!

Focus your time and energy on what you can improve, not on your history!


作者: 变心1122    时间: 2008-7-31 12:23

share some pics

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作者: 变心1122    时间: 2008-7-31 13:11

last two pics

Huntsman in darkness.

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Amazing Philly! - view from Sansom West...
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作者: v_zhang7979    时间: 2008-7-31 23:52

请问,沃顿的课程相对于HBS或Chicago有什么特点? 学校的career service如何? 俱乐部都有哪些? 最大的?最好的?中国学生最多的?最有意思的? 谢谢!


作者: mateicbill    时间: 2008-8-2 11:43
请问,沃顿的课程相对于HBS或Chicago有什么特点?

i have to pass this questions to somebody who's taken classess at all these 3 schools.

学校的career service如何?

should be very helpful.

俱乐部都有哪些?

i can't recall every single one. so i did a quick google search. the list here looks complete. http://wga.wharton.upenn.edu/clubs.asp

最大的?

no idea. maybe wine club? my favorite!

最好的?

haven't seen any "business week"-like ranking system. my membership includes wine, PE/VC, tech, healthcare, china, wing's, outdoor, japan, entrepreneurship and a couple others. you won't be surprised finance club and consulting club have tons of people.

中国学生最多的?

greater china club, that's a given.

最有意思的?

haven't seen any "business week"-like ranking system either. my favorite include wine and aviation.

谢谢!

you're welcome. good luck!

作者: littleca    时间: 2008-8-2 12:25
以下是引用beyond08在2008-6-20 15:34:00的发言:

I heard from someone that Wharton prefers candidates who have long time W/E.

Is that mean most of the admitted students from mainland China have around 5 years W/E.

Then I'm curious about the background or even some details about those who only have less than 3 years W/E and finally admitted by Wharton. Where they came from and what made them outstand in the application pool?

Many thanks~


I don't think long time w/e is a must - the ages of all admitted students vary from 18 to 43(or 46?). I even met some students who have no w/e at all! but they are really smart and have great potential. Frankly speaking I don't think knowing other people's backgrounds can increase your chance. So if you feel ready, just go apply.
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作者: 白流苏    时间: 2008-8-2 12:42

WOW~SLR~

有几张照片真的拍的很好啊~~

光线和色彩~


作者: littleca    时间: 2008-8-2 12:45

恩,感谢“变心1122”同学,鼓掌,撒花


作者: mateicbill    时间: 2008-8-2 12:56
the photographer is my buddy now. )

作者: mateicbill    时间: 2008-8-2 13:44

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNmOBVGCues

check this out



作者: watsons2008    时间: 2008-8-4 23:54

请教诸位前辈:

之前一直关注HBS,因为觉得自己是全能型,以综合(ALL-AROUNDED)见长的申请者,而WHARTON给我印象是FINANCE很强大(恰恰是我不擅长的),所以即使知道WHARTON很棒,但叶没考虑它太多。可最近又看了些信息,似乎WHARTON也很喜欢全能发展型的选手,且也和HBS一样开始喜欢招年轻毕业生。

我想请哪位前辈能劳驾看下我的CV,给我些建议。我明年本科毕业,打算直接申请。

谢谢。


作者: littleca    时间: 2008-8-6 12:05

在这里纠正一下,Wharton是非常综合的学校,并非只有finance一枝独秀。如果大家关注过US NEWS的专业排名,就会看到wharton在各个领域几乎都是名列前茅。虽说排名不代表一切,但也值得参考。据我所知,除了finance外,wharton在management,health care等方向都实力不俗。

关于wharton招年轻申请人还是成熟申请人,真是个有意思的话题。MBA 10的同学中,年龄最小的18岁,最大的四十多岁,range很大. 所以,无论年龄大小,只要有很好的potential,都有机会被录取。不过,我遇到的大多数同学都具有一定工作经验,那些刚踏出校门就被录取的学生,真的是非常有才华,都是young genius,而且很ambitious. 如果你属于那个group,就大胆申请吧。


作者: FlowerJay    时间: 2008-8-11 08:20

进来支持一下子小卡


作者: chase_2008    时间: 2008-8-11 11:42
请问 选修课里面有类似提供增强艺术修养类的课程么
作者: mateicbill    时间: 2008-8-11 16:13
Q: 请问 选修课里面有类似提供增强艺术修养类的课程么
A: Yes, you can take up to 2 credits of non-Wharton courses without paying extra.

作者: chase_2008    时间: 2008-8-11 22:00
请问哪里可以看到这个艺术课程信息?
作者: mateicbill    时间: 2008-8-12 00:23
Q: 请问哪里可以看到这个艺术课程信息?
A: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=university+of+pennsylvania+courses&btnG=Search
作者: withoutlaugh    时间: 2008-8-12 11:28

lz 可否知道黄培的联系方式。如果不方便可以PM。

Many thanks.


作者: caohe544    时间: 2008-8-13 18:06
以下是引用littleca在2008-8-6 12:05:00的发言:

在这里纠正一下,Wharton是非常综合的学校,并非只有finance一枝独秀。如果大家关注过US NEWS的专业排名,就会看到wharton在各个领域几乎都是名列前茅。虽说排名不代表一切,但也值得参考。据我所知,除了finance外,wharton在management,health care等方向都实力不俗。

关于wharton招年轻申请人还是成熟申请人,真是个有意思的话题。MBA 10的同学中,年龄最小的18岁,最大的四十多岁,range很大. 所以,无论年龄大小,只要有很好的potential,都有机会被录取。不过,我遇到的大多数同学都具有一定工作经验,那些刚踏出校门就被录取的学生,真的是非常有才华,都是young genius,而且很ambitious. 如果你属于那个group,就大胆申请吧。

请教各位前辈,

Wharton 有哪些general management 及 international business 方面特色的项目. 同时有哪些这方面的教授,谢谢!


作者: never3738    时间: 2008-8-14 02:15
以下是引用littleca在2008-8-6 12:05:00的发言:

在这里纠正一下,Wharton是非常综合的学校,并非只有finance一枝独秀。如果大家关注过US NEWS的专业排名,就会看到wharton在各个领域几乎都是名列前茅。虽说排名不代表一切,但也值得参考。据我所知,除了finance外,wharton在management,health care等方向都实力不俗。

关于wharton招年轻申请人还是成熟申请人,真是个有意思的话题。MBA 10的同学中,年龄最小的18岁,最大的四十多岁,range很大. 所以,无论年龄大小,只要有很好的potential,都有机会被录取。不过,我遇到的大多数同学都具有一定工作经验,那些刚踏出校门就被录取的学生,真的是非常有才华,都是young genius,而且很ambitious. 如果你属于那个group,就大胆申请吧。

在WHARTON  MBA 的主页上看到它要求申请者的数学/经济/金融要求很高,是我目前看到唯一一家BSCHOOL特地强调了一下的噢.特别是对于刚毕业的学生,要SHOW  出自己数/经/金融方面的POTENTIAL .

不知道偶理解得对不对,还请前辈们解答.


作者: littleca    时间: 2008-8-14 08:36
以下是引用never3738在2008-8-14 2:15:00的发言:

在WHARTON  MBA 的主页上看到它要求申请者的数学/经济/金融要求很高,是我目前看到唯一一家BSCHOOL特地强调了一下的噢.特别是对于刚毕业的学生,要SHOW  出自己数/经/金融方面的POTENTIAL .

不知道偶理解得对不对,还请前辈们解答.

We took a math exam yesterday (Aug 12). The math professor is excellent. He used only two lectures and walked us through the basic math techniques including algebra and calculus. The math exam is not difficult. Don't worry, the passing rate of prior year is 95%.

Many of my classmates have no math/finance/economics experience, both academically and professionally.


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作者: littleca    时间: 2008-8-14 14:11
以下是引用caohe544在2008-8-13 18:06:00的发言:

请教各位前辈,

Wharton 有哪些general management 及 international business 方面特色的项目. 同时有哪些这方面的教授,谢谢!

We have GIP, GCP program which I believe are very practical and international. You may search them on Wharton's website.


作者: 小土狗    时间: 2008-8-15 02:07
小花花同学怎么又整容了?
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作者: sdiaenax    时间: 2008-8-15 18:01

Thanks for the detailed information about Wharton's program.I indeed learn more about Wharton.

I have another question about TOEFL transcript. Due to business trip and heavy workload, i plan to take my TOEFL test in the end of September and hopefully apply the first-round program. However, if the score doesn't come out yet (it takes 2-3 weeks to calculate the grades), could I sill submit my application? Also, if the formal transcript will be sent to school after deadline, would the admission accept my informal online score first and wait for my formal transcript sent by ETS?

Thanks for your patience with me   


作者: littleca    时间: 2008-8-16 13:04
以下是引用sdiaenax在2008-8-15 18:01:00的发言:

Thanks for the detailed information about Wharton's program.I indeed learn more about Wharton.

I have another question about TOEFL transcript. Due to business trip and heavy workload, i plan to take my TOEFL test in the end of September and hopefully apply the first-round program. However, if the score doesn't come out yet (it takes 2-3 weeks to calculate the grades), could I sill submit my application? Also, if the formal transcript will be sent to school after deadline, would the admission accept my informal online score first and wait for my formal transcript sent by ETS?

Thanks for your patience with me   

I recommend you to contact the admission office asking for their advice.  


作者: littleca    时间: 2008-8-16 13:24

Today a professor mentioned some information during class which might be useful to all prospective students:

1. GMAT is important because it is a standardized test that can evaluate the academic quality of students from all over the world. Adcom knows grading policies vary among different countries/schools thus gpa is not comparable.

2. Now Wharton uses his/her highest GMAT score when evaluates each applicant. However, this policy is likely to change soon and average GMAT will be taken into consideration. The reason is that the school does not want to put in disadvantage those students who cannot afford re-taking GMAT again and again.

I'm not clear how much faculty involves in admission process and where the professor got this information, but I see no harm to pay attention to GMAT because it is the only part in application easy to improve.


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作者: ustc9718    时间: 2008-8-20 13:28
Thanks Littleca for your information. Is there any hint about the proportion of verbal percentile in Gmat score?
作者: caohe544    时间: 2008-8-21 22:02
可不可以说说Wharton的教学或学习特点,谢谢
作者: realliquan    时间: 2008-8-23 12:42
以下是引用caohe544在2008-8-21 22:02:00的发言:
可不可以说说Wharton的教学或学习特点,谢谢

就目前上了一个月的情况来说

偶个人觉得十分quantitative 据说HBS的同学每天看2个case (道听得) 但是从来不用公式算什么东西 (也是道听的)

而我们很多人每天就是拿着计算器和草稿纸在那里算阿算阿 基本现在每门课都要算

也有可能因为最先一个月是preterm 要学很多business fundamental 的东西 所以想对quant了一些 希望接下来正式开学了 会不一样很多

但是我觉得至少说明两点 第一 wharton是一个比较quant的学校 不是那种relaxe的学校气氛 我们这里的老师经常拿kellogg作为对比 认为他们相对比较舒服 具体情况偶不知道 欢迎西北的同学纠正

第二 wharton很重学生的基本能力 所谓hands on dirt 希望学生是能处理实际问题的 也就是我们经常说的practical 很多employer的feedback是wharton的学生相对来说都是很wellprepared 甚至overprepared 这当然是有好的地方 也有不好的地方

先说那么多 都是偶个人观点 这个礼拜考了很多试 心情大好 上来胡说两句 欢迎同学们踊跃排砖

酱紫


作者: Juliandworld    时间: 2008-8-25 13:57

谢谢分享! 可否请教下有没有re-apply的中国同学? 能否请分享一下经验?  thanks!


作者: ab123cdefg    时间: 2008-8-25 21:43

请问littlecarealliquan 两个关于课程的问题:

FNCE 720 Investment Management, Professor Marshall E. Blume 是否教这门课? 如果是口碑如何?有没有比他更有趣的?

MGMT 804 Venture Capital and Entrepreneurial Management: Professor Raphael (Raffi) Amit 是否教这门课?

谢谢!!!!


作者: 小土狗    时间: 2008-8-27 02:16
以下是引用ab123cdefg在2008-8-25 21:43:00的发言:

请问littlecarealliquan 两个关于课程的问题:

FNCE 720 Investment Management, Professor Marshall E. Blume 是否教这门课? 如果是口碑如何?有没有比他更有趣的?

MGMT 804 Venture Capital and Entrepreneurial Management: Professor Raphael (Raffi) Amit 是否教这门课?

谢谢!!!!

FNCE 7 系列的课都是要上好FNCE 601, 602后才能选的。这里选课是通过网上的auction来竞标的。有些热门的课,要花掉你很多的点数去bid。第一年的core course,基本都是按照cohort一起上,除非你免修了某门课。什么老师上,什么时候上,都不是你决定的。但是选修课自己可以灵活安排,也可以去挑自己喜欢的老师。






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