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标题: 大全38请教,恳求路过的NN指点 [打印本页]

作者: laipiyu    时间: 2008-6-1 06:28
标题: 大全38请教,恳求路过的NN指点

64.   According to a recent study, the elderly in the United States are four times more likely to give regular financial aid to their children as to receive it from them.

(A) the elderly in the United States are four times more likely to give regular financial aid to their children as

(B) the elderly in the United States are four times as likely to give regular financial aid to their children as it is for them

(C) the elderly in the United States are four times more likely to give regular financial aid to their children than

(D) it is four times more likely for the elderly in the United States to give regular financial aid to their children than they areC

(E) it is four times as likely that the elderly in the United States will give their children regular financial aid as they are

答案是C,我想问的是这题有没有指代的歧义,them和their似乎指代不同的对象,请NN指点?


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作者: laipiyu    时间: 2008-6-2 10:57
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作者: rock19840717    时间: 2008-6-2 11:07
DE最后be to V应该是错误标志,排除。B是as.....as结构,后面不要再加句子了吧。A是more....than,貌似不能用as.C用their指代,前面就一个复数名次,应该可以指代。我顺便问LZ一个问题,aid后面不能用to我依稀记得,应该是of和that,不知道LZ当时怎么分析的
作者: ad264    时间: 2008-6-2 11:10
我也是在思考这一个问题中,刚看到一句话,
所有格可以refer to subject and object nouns.
先抛个想法吧。
也就是所有格的用法或许我们需多了解一些

作者: laipiyu    时间: 2008-6-2 23:23
以下且??lt;i>rock19840717在2008-6-2 11:07:00的发言:
DE最后be to V应该是错误标志,排除。B是as.....as结构,后面不要再加句子了吧。A是more....than,貌似不能用as.C用their指代,前面就一个复数名次,应该可以指代。我顺便问LZ一个问题,aid后面不能用to我依稀记得,应该是of和that,不知道LZ当时怎么分析的

aid做动词时是及物动词,后面直接加宾语不加介词。这里的aid是名词,与搭配无关。这里的to是修饰give的。

另外继续求问their和them的指代问题,望路过的NN指点。


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作者: laipiyu    时间: 2008-6-3 12:32
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作者: laipiyu    时间: 2008-6-5 04:10
再up,恳求指点。
作者: ad264    时间: 2008-6-5 13:09
说实话,指代不一致的句子很多,前人的帖中,似乎也没有一个定则,都是用逻辑的句意去判断,常也有矛盾。

像以下这题,用逻辑句意去想bears一定是要找另一个对象,不会bears找bears,但是考题就是觉得要写明the insects。或者是因为多了一个修饰语as many as..,所以insects要写出。

    

The army
cutworm moth
is a critical source of fat for as many as
a third of Yellowstone National Park's grizzly bears, which overturn rocks to find
the insects
, as many as 40,000 per bear in a single day.

我之所以回帖,只是想告诉楼主,或许 指代是一个没有标准答案的问题。


作者: laipiyu    时间: 2008-6-6 06:15
以下是引用ad264在2008-6-5 13:09:00的发言:
说实话,指代不一致的句子很多,前人的帖中,似乎也没有一个定则,都是用逻辑的句意去判断,常也有矛盾。

像以下这题,用逻辑句意去想bears一定是要找另一个对象,不会bears找bears,但是考题就是觉得要写明the insects。或者是因为多了一个修饰语as many as..,所以insects要写出。

 

The army
cutworm moth
is a critical source of fat for as many as
a third of Yellowstone National Park's grizzly bears, which overturn rocks to find
the insects
, as many as 40,000 per bear in a single day.

我之所以回帖,只是想告诉楼主,或许 指代是一个没有标准答案的问题。

上面这个例子不同,并没有存在指代的歧义。

我也知道大家讨论指代歧义很久了,但其实大多数大家讨论的题目从逻辑意思上分析以后其实是没有歧义的。

但是在大全38中是两个明确给出的代词their和them,正是从逻辑意思上来看指代出现歧义。

这里我想弄清楚的是:(1)是题目本身有问题?还是(2)所有格形式的代词是不是可以指代不同物体?或者甚至是(3)相同的代词就是可以指代不同的对象?(当然这个不太可能)


作者: rock19840717    时间: 2008-7-28 09:49

这题我居然回过帖,自己做居然做错了

1问:铜LZ

2问:数字+times后面有加more的结构吗,应该是...times(或数字) + as + 形容词或副词 + as...这样一个形式啊


作者: luyuxingv    时间: 2008-7-28 13:15

ETS允许在同一个句子里同一代词的主格与物主形式指代不同的对象,如OG60,再如:

1)When an individual or a party is wronged in the United States, to whom can he apply for redress? If to the public opinion, public opinion constitutes the majority; if to the legislature, it represents the majority and implicitly obeys its injunctions; if to the executive power, it is appointed by the majority and remains a passive tool in its hands; the public troops consist of the majority under arms; the jury is the majority invested with the right of hearing judicial cases, and in certain states even the judges are elected by the majority.

2)og129: In an effort to reduce their inventories, Italian vintners have cut prices; their wines are priced to sell, and they do

3)In general,
            
they reported,
the ability of the compounds to compete at the receptors correlates with their ability to stimulate locomotion in the mouse; i.e., the higher their capacity to bind at the receptors, the higher their ability to stimulate locomotion.


作者: luyuxingv    时间: 2008-7-28 13:23
数字+times后面可以加more的,four times more than就是说多四倍,也就是五倍;而说four times as many as……则是说,是它的四倍
作者: shirley06296    时间: 2008-8-16 11:17

我认为这里不存在指代错误,According to a recent study the elderly in the United States are four times more likely to give regular financial aid to their children than to receive it from them.这句话中,than 后面的to receive it from them的逻辑主语是the elderly, 如果them 又是指代the elderly, 岂不变成the elderly receive regular financial aid from themselves,这不是很好笑吗?

另外,我倒是想请教一下各位NN,我记得我做的OG11中有一题涉及more likely, OG的解释中说more likely 这个词组本身错的,应该为more than likely, 请问各位对这题又没有印象,可否解答一下?






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