标题: [求助]请教大全158 run-on sentence run on [打印本页] 作者: dreadpower 时间: 2004-1-2 22:06 标题: [求助]请教大全158 run-on sentence run on 158.Bankers require that the financial information presented to them by mortgage applicants be complete and follow a prescribed format. (A) be complete and follow a prescribed format (B) is complete and it follows a prescribed format (C) be complete and a prescribed format is followed (D) to be complete and a prescribed format be following (E) be completed, and it followed a prescribed format 答案是A，没有问题。 想请教：and前面没有逗号的话，能不能连接两个独立的分句？？？
比如下面这个句子： the financial information presented to them by mortgage applicants should be complete and a prescribed format is followed. 不考虑其他因素，单纯从语法的角度讲，and前面没有逗号的话连接两个独立的分句是否可行呢？ 作者: bigcamel 时间: 2004-1-3 04:01
这不正是传说中的run-on sentence吗??作者: Snazzy 时间: 2004-1-3 06:30
my answer is YES. when 'and ' is expressed 'a result or explanation', the subjects can be different. eg:
I dropped my film in the supermarket for furnishing and they will be ready in 3 days.作者: dreadpower 时间: 2004-1-3 15:11
In choices A and C, it intrudes between the halves of the compound verb has moved... and [now] draws to introduce a new grammatical subject, thereby creating a run-on sentence:the inclusion of it requires a comma after classics to set off the new independent clause (以此类推，and 连接并列句，如果第二句中出现主语的话，则and前一定要有逗号隔开).作者: dreadpower 时间: 2004-1-3 22:31
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还是rabbitbug MM来当适合作者: guandream 时间: 2004-1-4 00:55
there are three common mistakes of setence structures: runon sentence, fragment sentence and logical fault between sentences. runon sentence:two or more sentences are connected using comma or not, but they are independent sentences. correction: using conjunction , conjunction adverb , semicom and comma or seperating two sentences using point. fragment sentence: only dependent sentence. correction: giving up conjunction. logical fault between sentences: the relationship between sentences that authors try to express, but sentences use wrong conjunction or conjunction adverb. correction: have to understand the sentence and correct them. good luck 作者: turtlechen 时间: 2004-1-4 03:27
This website has more information about run-on and fragment. http://www.cybertranslator.idv.tw/grammar/grammar.htm
However, it is written in traditional chinese.作者: rabbitbug 时间: 2004-1-4 19:40
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说的好，说的好，这个朋友我交定了作者: gemj 时间: 2004-1-5 04:19
薄冰“英语语法”P507 并列句由两个或两个以上的简单句并列而成。常见的结构是： 简单句＋对立连词＋简单句。这种简单句常被叫做分句。等立连词之前可用逗号，也可不用逗号。如： They were happy and they deserved their happiness. The signal was given, and the steamer moved slowly.
Rule 11. If something or someone is sufficiently identified, the description following it is considered nonessential and should be surrounded by commas.
Example Freddy, who has a limp, was in an auto accident. Freddy is named so the description is not essential.
The boy who has a limp was in an auto accident. We would not know which boy is being referred to otherwise; therefore, no commas are used.
Rule 12. Using a comma is optional to separate two sentences joined by a coordinating conjunction—and, or, but, for, nor.
Example I have painted the entire house, but he is still working on sanding the doors. OR I have painted the entire house but he is still working on sanding the doors.
Rule 13. Use the comma to separate two sentences if it will help avoid confusion.
Example I chose the colors red and green, and blue was his first choice.
Rule 14. If the subject does not appear in front of the second verb, do not use a comma.
Example He thought quickly and still did not answer correctly. The subject does not appear after the and, so no comma is used.
run-on sentence: especially American English a sentence that has two main clauses without connecting words or correct punctuation
作者: smartcoco 时间: 2005-5-4 23:49
Example He thought quickly and still did not answer correctly. The subject does not appear after the and, so no comma is used.
这个例子的前提是，两个分句的主语是一样的，对么？
现在都有点头大了
作者: smartcoco 时间: 2005-5-4 23:55
gemi写到： 薄冰“英语语法”P507 并列句由两个或两个以上的简单句并列而成。常见的结构是： 简单句＋对立连词＋简单句。这种简单句常被叫做分句。等立连词之前可用逗号，也可不用逗号。如： They were happy and they deserved their happiness. The signal was given, and the steamer moved slowly.
flroa_wang mm 又提到：
Rule 14. If the subject does not appear in front of the second verb, do not use a comma.
Example
He thought quickly and still did not answer correctly. The subject does not appear after the and, so no comma is used.
ETS特别腔调的run on sentence是and前面没有加逗号，因为and前面如果加逗号的话很明显是链接两个分句，而不加逗号的话就要看逻辑意思，and是链接哪两个部分。
作者: livary 时间: 2006-6-10 12:59
LONGMAN:
yet2
used to introduce a fact, situation, or quality that is surprising after what you have just said:
Kelly was a convicted criminal, yet many people admired him.
She does not speak our language and yet she seems to understand what we say.
a story that is strange yet true
an inexpensive yet effective solution to our problem
所以我觉得,1)如果是同一主语, 不加逗号;
2)不同主语,要加逗号
作者: snowfield 时间: 2006-6-27 15:19
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作者: snowfield 时间: 2006-6-28 04:56
以下是引用smartcoco在2005-5-4 23:55:00的发言：
gemi写到： 薄冰“英语语法”P507 并列句由两个或两个以上的简单句并列而成。常见的结构是： 简单句＋对立连词＋简单句。这种简单句常被叫做分句。等立连词之前可用逗号，也可不用逗号。如： They were happy and they deserved their happiness. The signal was given, and the steamer moved slowly.
flroa_wang mm 又提到：
Rule 14. If the subject does not appear in front of the second verb, do not use a comma.
Example
He thought quickly and still did not answer correctly.
The subject does not appear after the and, so no comma is used.
以下是引用gemj在2004-1-5 4:19:00的发言： 薄冰“英语语法”P507 并列句由两个或两个以上的简单句并列而成。常见的结构是： 简单句＋对立连词＋简单句。这种简单句常被叫做分句。等立连词之前可用逗号，也可不用逗号。如： They were happy and they deserved their happiness. The signal was given, and the steamer moved slowly.
Theoretically, this convection would carry the continental plates along as though they were on a conveyor belt and would provide the forces needed to produce the split that occurs along the ridge.
(1)and 连接两个句子，主语一致省略，但前面并没有用逗号隔开！
The enclosed seas are an important feature of the earth’s surface, and seriously require explanation because, in addition to the enclosed seas that are developing at present behind island arcs, there are a number of older ones of possibly similar origin, such as the Gulf of Mexico, the Black Sea, and perhaps the North Sea. (2)and 连接两个句子，主语一致省略，但前面用逗号隔开了！
以下是引用gemj在2004-1-5 4:19:00的发言： 薄冰“英语语法”P507 并列句由两个或两个以上的简单句并列而成。常见的结构是： 简单句＋对立连词＋简单句。这种简单句常被叫做分句。等立连词之前可用逗号，也可不用逗号。如： They were happy and they deserved their happiness. The signal was given, and the steamer moved slowly.
请教gemj，They were happy and they deserved their happiness. 后半句的they是不是需要省略呢？因为并列句主语相同？
They were happy and they deserved their happiness. 后半句的they是不是需要省略呢？因为并列句主语相同？
这句话我认为不能省略后半句的they，省略以后就是be动词和实意动词。
请大家指正。
作者: ligaoping 时间: 2007-7-27 02:17
以下是引用ana9在2006-10-18 10:16:00的发言： 1. and连接parts of sentences前面不一定add逗号！
Theoretically, this convection would carry the continental plates along as though they were on a conveyor belt and would provide the forces needed to produce the split that occurs along the ridge.
(1)and 连接两个句子，主语一致省略，但前面并没有用逗号隔开！
The enclosed seas are an important feature of the earth’s surface, and seriously require explanation because, in addition to the enclosed seas that are developing at present behind island arcs, there are a number of older ones of possibly similar origin, such as the Gulf of Mexico, the Black Sea, and perhaps the North Sea. (2)and 连接两个句子，主语一致省略，但前面用逗号隔开了！
Correct: Jose is still a feared batter, most pithers don't want to face him.
Incorrect:Jose is still a feared batter most pithers don't want to face him.
请NN确认，
困惑ing....
我又看了一遍，你们看错了吧，这里是个分号．完全可以的
作者: cuishang11 时间: 2009-5-7 16:25
以下是引用margery_god在2008-5-4 9:14:00的发言：
我的书上确实是逗号 不过我的是影印版的 难道真的是因为版本问题！！！？？？？ 渺茫了作者: AlienX 时间: 2009-5-8 04:18
GMAC巳經admitted the print error. 作者: loispsq 时间: 2009-5-26 08:48
我刚查了<<The Chicago Manual of Style>>, 这在美国的写作指导手册. 关于逗号的用法.
When independent clauses are joined by and, but, or, so, yet, or any other conjunction, a comma usually precedes the conjunction.If the clauses are very short and closely connected, the comma may be omitted.
也就是说,and可以连接两个独立的句子, 而中间不需要加逗号.
A comma is not normally used between the parts of a compound predicate – that is, two or more verbs having the same subject, as distinct from two independent clauses.But it may need comma to avoid misreading or to indicate a pause.
Rule 11. If something or someone is sufficiently identified, the description following it is considered nonessential and should be surrounded by commas.
Example Freddy, who has a limp, was in an auto accident. Freddy is named so the description is not essential.
The boy who has a limp was in an auto accident. We would not know which boy is being referred to otherwise; therefore, no commas are used.
Rule 12. Using a comma is optional to separate two sentences joined by a coordinating conjunction—and, or, but, for, nor.
Example I have painted the entire house, but he is still working on sanding the doors. OR I have painted the entire house but he is still working on sanding the doors.
Rule 13. Use the comma to separate two sentences if it will help avoid confusion.
Example I chose the colors red and green, and blue was his first choice.
Rule 14. If the subject does not appear in front of the second verb, do not use a comma.
Example He thought quickly and still did not answer correctly. The subject does not appear after the and, so no comma is used.
我刚查了<<The Chicago Manual of Style>>, 这在美国的写作指导手册. 关于逗号的用法.
When independent clauses are joined by and, but, or, so, yet, or any other conjunction, a comma usually precedes the conjunction.If the clauses are very short and closely connected, the comma may be omitted. 也就是说,and可以连接两个独立的句子, 而中间不需要加逗号.
A comma is not normally used between the parts of a compound predicate – that is, two or more verbs having the same subject, as distinct from two independent clauses.But it may need comma to avoid misreading or to indicate a pause. 也就是说即使是同一个主语的两个句子,用and连接时,也可能出现逗号, 为了免除歧义.
-- by 会员 loispsq (2009/5/26 8:48:00)
好！作者: 小小明噢耶 时间: 2019-8-17 16:18
这不是虚拟语气吗 省略should啊下列动词宾语后从句使用动词原形表示虚拟，省略should
1> 表建议：advocate/advise/move/recommend that
Sb. suggest/propose that
2> 表命令：order/decree/mandate/command/demand that
3> 表要求：request/require/insist Sth require of sb that
4> 下列动词宾语后从句不使用虚拟语态Allow that/rule that/Sth propose that / Sth suggest that
Kelly was a convicted criminal, yet many people admired him.