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标题: 美国top20的MBA,毕业后想从事金融行业,难度有多大呢? [打印本页]

作者: lecherous    时间: 2008-4-7 21:33
标题: 美国top20的MBA,毕业后想从事金融行业,难度有多大呢?

估计很多CDer都有这样的疑问,不好意思又挑起了一下。说实话,出国读个MBA,其实跟博士完全是两码事,前者是去花钱,一百多万;后者是去赚钱,一百多万。不得不慎重。

假定一个没有金融背景的人,只在比较有名的500强外企做过几年工程师,在美国读了个top30MBA,今后从事金融业的机会大么?

进IB如何?不是说什么GS,MS,ML等超级大牛,而是二三流的银行/证券公司的IB部门。

那么如果又换一下,如果是top10呢?二三流的IB还是很难进吗?


作者: tristesser    时间: 2008-4-7 21:38
很多转业的啊。我觉得因该可以的。像Wharton/Chicago/Columbia/Stern这种finance超级强的容易一点。在学校的networking 也很重要。

作者: 李大衛    时间: 2008-4-8 00:14
以下是引用lecherous在2008-4-7 21:33:00的发言:

估计很多CDer都有这样的疑问,不好意思又挑起了一下。说实话,出国读个MBA,其实跟博士完全是两码事,前者是去花钱,一百多万;后者是去赚钱,一百多万。不得不慎重。

假定一个没有金融背景的人,只在比较有名的500强外企做过几年工程师,在美国读了个top30MBA,今后从事金融业的机会大么?

进IB如何?不是说什么GS,MS,ML等超级大牛,而是二三流的银行/证券公司的IB部门。

那么如果又换一下,如果是top10呢?二三流的IB还是很难进吗?

need to find out why an engineer wants to do finance

these are 2 different planets

you must find out the passion deep in your blood

or you'll lose both of them

it needs to be something in your personality, characteristics, and your professional background

find out your irreplaceables

do you keep your account everyday?

do you invest by yourself and make money? how do you manage your portfolio?

can you excel at numbers? can you speak to those numbers and listen to them?

do you know the specific trends in the industries? how do you know and why?

which stocks will surge in next 3 months? which ones will free fall?

how do you crunch those surging ones to balance the free fall ones?

what will you do if your finance door is close?

and the last thing

why and how can you get in top 30 or even top 10 if you don't know yourself well enough?

need to find out all these answers

MBA is terminal degree

it's the end when you finish it

Ph.D serves for totally different purposes

but there's 99% no overlap


作者: royzhujian    时间: 2008-4-8 17:25
ls的除了个别point以外,基本和LZ说的不是一回事。。。。


作者: lecherous    时间: 2008-4-8 17:44
以下是引用李大衛在2008-4-8 0:14:00的发言:

need to find out why an engineer wants to do finance

these are 2 different planets

you must find out the passion deep in your blood

or you'll lose both of them

it needs to be something in your personality, characteristics, and your professional background

find out your irreplaceables

do you keep your account everyday?

do you invest by yourself and make money? how do you manage your portfolio?

can you excel at numbers? can you speak to those numbers and listen to them?

do you know the specific trends in the industries? how do you know and why?

which stocks will surge in next 3 months? which ones will free fall?

how do you crunch those surging ones to balance the free fall ones?

what will you do if your finance door is close?

and the last thing

why and how can you get in top 30 or even top 10 if you don't know yourself well enough?

need to find out all these answers

MBA is terminal degree

it's the end when you finish it

Ph.D serves for totally different purposes

but there's 99% no overlap

谢谢你的回复和提醒。

因为去美国读一个MBA,对我而言机会成本很高(花费12~15万美元,并且少赚10万美元,相当于自己的积蓄全花掉了),不得不慎重。但这并不表示我是心血来潮。我想读MBA,是因为比起周围的工程师,我对于市场,对于经济金融有更多的关心和见地。

至于想进金融,也很简单,收入高。这么高的投资,如果毕业后去做marketing,只能八九万美元,本都捞不回来。况且,做marketing也没有必要读MBA。MBA是为达到转行的目的而考虑到。


作者: xxbc1    时间: 2008-4-8 17:48
以下是引用李大衛在2008-4-8 0:14:00的发言:

need to find out why an engineer wants to do finance

these are 2 different planets

you must find out the passion deep in your blood

or you'll lose both of them

it needs to be something in your personality, characteristics, and your professional background

find out your irreplaceables

do you keep your account everyday?

do you invest by yourself and make money? how do you manage your portfolio?

can you excel at numbers? can you speak to those numbers and listen to them?

do you know the specific trends in the industries? how do you know and why?

which stocks will surge in next 3 months? which ones will free fall?

how do you crunch those surging ones to balance the free fall ones?

what will you do if your finance door is close?

and the last thing

why and how can you get in top 30 or even top 10 if you don't know yourself well enough?

need to find out all these answers

MBA is terminal degree

it's the end when you finish it

Ph.D serves for totally different purposes

but there's 99% no overlap

which stocks will surge in next 3 months? which ones will free fall?

This is not what IB or real finance people do.


作者: lshlcc    时间: 2008-4-8 18:18
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作者: ppeema    时间: 2008-4-8 20:46
以下是引用royzhujian在2008-4-8 17:25:00的发言:
ls的除了个别point以外,基本和LZ说的不是一回事。。。。

我倒觉得正切中要害


作者: gogojiayou    时间: 2008-4-8 23:30

我不觉得所有IB,FINANCE的人在进入行业前已经充分了解这个行业到底是怎么回事

有时候事情先做起来,然后慢慢就知道自己到底应该做什么,进了这个行业,再出来也不迟,有时候动机单纯点反而好,想清楚了就晚了


作者: Huangzizeng    时间: 2008-4-9 17:04

看个人,都大的。


作者: lisaxxd    时间: 2008-4-9 20:28
要在美国找到ib工作挺难, 回国或者到其他地方比如香港可以看看机会.
作者: 苞米    时间: 2008-4-10 23:15
以下是引用lecherous在2008-4-7 21:33:00的发言:

估计很多CDer都有这样的疑问,不好意思又挑起了一下。说实话,出国读个MBA,其实跟博士完全是两码事,前者是去花钱,一百多万;后者是去赚钱,一百多万。不得不慎重。

-----〉关公战秦琼

假定一个没有金融背景的人,只在比较有名的500强外企做过几年工程师,在美国读了个top30MBA,今后从事金融业的机会大么?

-----〉可能性90%,不过这个所谓的金融业指的是CorpFin

进IB如何?不是说什么GS,MS,ML等超级大牛,而是二三流的银行/证券公司的IB部门。

-----〉如果说进入7大(现在6大了)算是登月,则进入“二三流的银行/证券公司的IB部门”如同登陆火星

那么如果又换一下,如果是top10呢?二三流的IB还是很难进吗?

-----〉同上。

窃以为,如果您以上所有工作经验均发生在中国,您做Banking的可能性几乎是零,人家不会雇用你,雇了你你也真的做不了。补充一点,金融业不等于IB,不知道您到底是更关注金融业还是更关注IB。


作者: royzhujian    时间: 2008-4-11 01:51
ls的牛人又现身拉。。。
啥是6大呢? 我咋只听过4大啊,engineer要进corp fin也不见的容易额。。。

作者: pwjcathy    时间: 2008-4-12 10:55


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作者: FlowerJay    时间: 2008-4-12 18:35
以下是引用royzhujian在2008-4-8 17:25:00的发言:
ls的除了个别point以外,基本和LZ说的不是一回事。。。。

haha,朱哥现在说话越来越有大将风度了!你丫绝对goldman sachz了!回头拉偶一把!


作者: sl2008    时间: 2008-5-19 12:21

这么难啊。


作者: ChrisX    时间: 2008-5-20 11:44
以下是引用lisaxxd在2008-4-9 20:28:00的发言:
要在美国找到ib工作挺难, 回国或者到其他地方比如香港可以看看机会.

想请教一下,同样的背景(没有金融经验,Top 30 MBA)进香港投资银行IB / 投资公司IM的机会又有多大呢?






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