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作者: seren_q 时间: 2008-3-23 10:15
标题: MBA after PhD？请教大家

在这里看了很多帖子，没有发现有我这种情况的，想说出来听听大家的意见。

我本科在不错的大学读完生物，浑浑噩噩地申请了美国，现在读生物PhD。很不喜欢做研究，想做些别的。我的硬件条件：GPA什么的都很高（本科3.7, PhD么大家当然都是3.5以上，我也没有丢脸）。还没有考GMAT，打算夏天考。因为读完本科就读博士，自然没有任何工作经验，但是有三年在正规NGO volunteer和担任chief officer的经验（业余的），不过与business并不沾边。好歹在美国呆了这么多年，英语还算不错。此外自己觉得跟人打交道不是问题，还算大方，人不算笨，也不算懒。虽然没有任何business背景，但最近开始跟踪各种business news和文章，倒也觉得满有意思。

明年毕业，现在想着两条路可以一试。最理想的是能进consulting firm，因为颇有一些大公司会招fresh phd。当然心里知道这样的职位竞争激烈不言而喻，我的学校不是人家的target school，再说自己年博士期间没有什么耀眼的学术成绩，估计他们会怀疑我的智力。之所以敢去试试，也是因为自恃还不算太笨，而且还有一些leadership经验，也许别人能因此给我个机会也未可知。

另外就是想直接申请MBA。不是我不知道工作经验对申请MBA以及MBA拿到手以后找工作的重要性，实在是生物这个倒霉专业的博士出来太难太难找工作，而我这些年所作的研究又极其基础，想进药厂或者生物公司之类完全没戏。所以我处于一个Catch 22的怪圈里面：希望MBA能帮助我转行，但是没有工作经验就很难申请到好的MBA。我想请问大家我这样的情况有多大可能进top的商学院，需要注意些什么。另外，我听说Cornell有个专门为我这样的advanced degree holder所设的MBA，不知道其他学校还有没有？有没有哪些学校比较喜欢我这样的背景的？

总之，我觉得自己的强项是GPA和NGO的经验，弱项是没有工作经验，博士期间也没有什么学术成就。大约属于希望渺茫，但是又没有糟糕到不能一试的程度，请大家给建议，非常感谢。

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作者: seren_q 时间: 2008-3-23 15:31
自己顶一下，看起来大家的背景都跟我太不一样了...

作者: tristesser 时间: 2008-3-23 23:06
一般做RA也因该可以算作工作经验的吧。我觉得最重要的是解释清楚为什么要MBA。哎，我也是想专业，现在也在想解释清楚为什么要转业。与楼主共勉。我觉得楼主的NGO的volunteer经验会很有用。

作者: leoleo0802 时间: 2008-3-23 23:54

以下是引用seren_q在2008-3-23 15:31:00的发言：
自己顶一下，看起来大家的背景都跟我太不一样了...

不如先去本校的MBA office咨询一下??

作者: seren_q 时间: 2008-3-24 00:25
倒是有这样的先例的，听说数人拿到PhD就去读MBA的。但是MBA不够好，只能拿它来保底。

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作者: lshlcc 时间: 2008-3-24 00:32
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作者: 江南男孩 时间: 2008-3-24 01:49
其实楼主的背景还是不错的，可以争取先工作几年再考虑念书。

作者: seren_q 时间: 2008-3-24 03:10

咨询当然是要试的，不过觉得挺难的。

我也听说没有工作经验就算有了MBA也不是很好找工作，但是top的也是这样吗？我是只打算试试好的那几所，不行也不去读一般的了，反正也没用。

唉，我这不是郁闷找不着工作么，找得到我何苦要这么急着读MBA?怪圈阿怪圈。

作者: stq 时间: 2008-3-24 03:53
没工作经验很难申请MBA, 即使一些烂的学校收你，出来一样难找工作，还浪费时间和学费

作者: fisherrui 时间: 2008-3-24 09:55
I have a good friend/former colleague who has a PHD then got an MBA from CMU. He is doing very well for him self. Don't count your self short because you have a great niche coming out of a decent MBA program. Another friend has a Masters in Biology and then went to a top consulting firm (LEK) after MBA. You can land a business development or consulting role easily at a top Pharmaceutical/Medical Devices company because of your industry and product expetise. Go for it and good luck.

作者: fisherrui 时间: 2008-3-24 09:57
One important note: Make sure you have a good story for your education experience and how the combination of a PhD and MBA leads to your future aspirations.

作者: seren_q 时间: 2008-3-24 13:50
Fisherrui and others, many many thanks.

Recently, it has been a tough time for me - swinging between being
dreamy and desperate, doing lots of research on MBA programs and
consulting career, and still trying to maintain an acceptable working
progress in lab work. After asking so many people for advice, it has
just got more and more clear to me that though I am not in a strong
position, I have to try anyways. What worries me most is whether or not
I can get a decent job after doing an MBA, in relatively good schools,
of course. I fully understand that MBA by itself is nothing else but "a
piece of paper". It is the skills and networking opportunities you gain
from the top-notch training programs that matter.

Anyway, being a bio PhD who have wasted 5 years in bench work and see
no future after getting the PhD (another example of "a piece of
paper"), I really have nothing to lose, so I have no excuse to step
back to my shell either. Wish all of us good luck.

作者: summertan 时间: 2008-3-26 00:07

I have also been struggling this issue. I agree that if you believe this is your dream, go chase it. There is nothing to lose. Another point that I want to raise is that you might want to consider your post MBA job landing. An Ph.D+ MBA is a great plus, but without any real work expeireince, it would be hard for you to go to consulting industry later on, considering you will be competing with similar technical person who has MBA+experience from big pharma

Basic research should be ok to land in a job in big research companies, lots of big pharma have fundemental resarch division just like acdemia. So besides trying for consulting right away and applying MBA, you may want to research the big companies as well. If your final goal is to get in a top management consulting firm, 'd better put some big names on your resume, great B-school, big company, they look for big names and your track record. If your goal is something else, then it is another story.

Whatever you decide, best luck.

作者: leoleo0802 时间: 2008-3-26 01:08

以下是引用seren_q在2008-3-24 3:10:00的发言：

咨询当然是要试的，不过觉得挺难的。

我也听说没有工作经验就算有了MBA也不是很好找工作，但是top的也是这样吗？我是只打算试试好的那几所，不行也不去读一般的了，反正也没用。

唉，我这不是郁闷找不着工作么，找得到我何苦要这么急着读MBA?怪圈阿怪圈。

I suggest that you try to look for some programs related to your major, such as Health Care etc.

Don't be upset. If you could get a PhD, there would be nothing impossible.

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