thank you for answering my question~
I didn't take linear algebra in my undergraduate studies as it was not included in our program. is that mean i am hopeless to be accepted by the program?
currently pursuing MSc Fin & Econ at LSE
willing to give anything useful for the guys who plan to join this programme
might check the forum two-day basis
no msn provided, just answer all the questions on the forum in order to share as more as possible
hope that helps
想问一下中国学生毕业后的去向，国家及行业~
谢谢~~~
想问下这个项目中国学生占大概多少比例？
还有毕业后想留在英国工作的话是不是难度比较大？
非常感谢！
我想了解一下placements,特别关心的是PhD track...
还有10个月读下来估计总共花费是在40-50万吗？
Million thanks~
想问一下中国学生毕业后的去向，国家及行业~
找工作关键是看个人。 今年目前 1 IB London, 1 big four london, 1 rating company london + chicago, 1 CICC Beijing, 1 HSBC China
哈哈，你竟然来开贴了~
你是？
我想了解一下placements,特别关心的是PhD track...
还有10个月读下来估计总共花费是在40-50万吗？
it's a good pre-step to any finance phd track.. if u apply the FE (research) and get distinguish in the final, then u can be guaranteed in LSE finance phd and save one year in the two-year course study of the phd programme
having to say it's quite an intensive and stressful programme. personally, i put to much effort in job hunting and fall behind in the first term. honestly, it is a system that students need to consider whether they can graduate smoothly seriously, since only the final exams are taken into account. also the exam at LSE is far more difficult than any exam I took in China before.
想问下这个项目中国学生占大概多少比例？
还有毕业后想留在英国工作的话是不是难度比较大？
非常感谢！
like 15-20% including all the BBC ABC and students got bachelor overseas...
again, it depends on ur effort to get a job pretty much.. as far as I know, many Chinese students don't acturally put the necessary for the job hunting because of the intense of this programme. the good news is u can extend ur visa for an extra year in UK for job hunting. and London is quite a fantastic place for fianncial industry. i should say the best one in Eu at least. however, u need to take the potential recession in the US and the world economy into account, which means this year is really really tough for banks.
DB doesn't hire anyone in London for its global capital department... which is the case for some other banks in the US as well
HOPE IT HELPS
谢谢学长的回答~~
But as to this sentence:
“since only the final exams are taken into account. ”
Does that mean one only needs to pass the final exams to graduate??
谢谢学长的回答~~
But as to this sentence:
“since only the final exams are taken into account. ”
Does that mean one only needs to pass the final exams to graduate??
I was granted a conditional offer for MSc F&E. But since I expect to do a PhD in finance after completion of the masters program, I worry about funding. Is full-funding ganrenteed for PhD finance student at LSE?
I got an email from LSE. Does it mean that I will be admitted to the MSc Finance and Economics programme?
"Thank you for your application to the MSc Finance and Economics (Research) programme. Unfortunately your application has not been successful for this programme.
However the selection committee would like me to inform you that they would favourably consider you for the MSc Finance and Economics programme should you wish to be considered for that programme. if you would like to take the MSc Finance and Economics programme please let me know and please ask Graduate Admissions to change your second choice from MSc Finance (Full-time) to MSc Finance and Economics."
I got an email from LSE. Does it mean that I will be admitted to the MSc Finance and Economics programme?
"Thank you for your application to the MSc Finance and Economics (Research) programme. Unfortunately your application has not been successful for this programme.
However the selection committee would like me to inform you that they would favourably consider you for the MSc Finance and Economics programme should you wish to be considered for that programme. if you would like to take the MSc Finance and Economics programme please let me know and please ask Graduate Admissions to change your second choice from MSc Finance (Full-time) to MSc Finance and Economics."
貌似是只要你肯改你的第二志愿他们就录你
it should be more like a typical MSF programme in the US, however, I would say FE is somewhat more like or at least compatable a MFE programme in the US
Since MSc Finance is a part-time programme this year. I have no contact with students there.
I was granted a conditional offer for MSc F&E. But since I expect to do a PhD in finance after completion of the masters program, I worry about funding. Is full-funding ganrenteed for PhD finance student at LSE?
first of all, it is not easy to get a distinction in the F&E programme and u r supposed to work much harder than others.
then the full-funding seems not necessary and it should be much less compared with PhD in the States, however, I talked to a Phd student in finance today and she said u generally can get some financial aid. I am not 100% sure.
why not contact some programme assistant and get formal information.
only one thing almost sure is that it is a good reputation here and it should be much easier to get phd opportunity in reputational unversities either in US or EU
I got an email from LSE. Does it mean that I will be admitted to the MSc Finance and Economics programme?
"Thank you for your application to the MSc Finance and Economics (Research) programme. Unfortunately your application has not been successful for this programme.
However the selection committee would like me to inform you that they would favourably consider you for the MSc Finance and Economics programme should you wish to be considered for that programme. if you would like to take the MSc Finance and Economics programme please let me know and please ask Graduate Admissions to change your second choice from MSc Finance (Full-time) to MSc Finance and Economics."
not necessary. but why not take this chance.
我申请LSE时好像申请表上的推荐人名字中的一个字母填错了~
把q写成了g~~
现在我的申请状态显示只Passed Check一封推荐信~
另一封推荐信还没有Passed Check~
我该怎么办啊现在？
it should be more like a typical MSF programme in the US, however, I would say FE is somewhat more like or at least compatable a MFE programme in the US
Since MSc Finance is a part-time programme this year. I have no contact with students there.
Thank you very much for your useful information. 我知道LSE的economics的reputation是很不错的，不知finance怎么样呢？
MSc Finance和MSc Finance and Economics都是10个月的program，感觉时间好短啊。要同时找实习有可能吗？
not necessary. but why not take this chance.
我申请LSE时好像申请表上的推荐人名字中的一个字母填错了~
把q写成了g~~
现在我的申请状态显示只Passed Check一封推荐信~
另一封推荐信还没有Passed Check~
我该怎么办啊现在？
try to contact Matt Rowley and tell him everything if u r in the process of MSc F&E, btw he is quite a nice guy
dont worry 2 much about that
but u do need some official response
Thank you very much for your useful information. 我知道LSE的economics的reputation是很不错的，不知finance怎么样呢？
MSc Finance和MSc Finance and Economics都是10个月的program，感觉时间好短啊。要同时找实习有可能吗？
it is really really intensive though it is short.. thus it is not recommented to find some intern during the programme.
As far as i know, only one guy in my programme is acturally doing some trading intern position in GS during the terms. He needs to work 20-40 hours a week and get 1000 pounds back. to be honest it is not a really good deal though the name of the company is awesome. the point is u may find it difficult to get through ur programme..
generally u will not be considered as a master student for the winter intern which is designed for 1st year undergraduate though it might be slightly different for individual company. for the summer intern u can apply for many of companies even if some of them still dont consider u unless u can demonstrate that u r gonna do another year study in campus..
good news is that a few students in my programme do get some intern positions starting from next summer. the app process starts from the 2nd term after New year holiday. Ofcourse, the course is much more intensive in the 2nd term...
my suggestion is hard working for job issue from the day u arrive london and if u r good i would say 50% u may get a full-time position before the new year, and that's exactly i get.. London is a glorous place for financial industry
however, u need to consider the job market now. the vacancies in london this year is much less compared with 2006 and nobody acturally know what's going on in 2008. it seems that the city is gonna cut 10000-50000 positions in 2008 from the total among of nearly 350,000. the situation in the US is even worse, to get job there is much harder even from some great programmes. even for summer intern.
u do need to consider the job market before u decide to study and work overseas
ls我站内信你了：）
事实上LSE 的MSc Fin&Econ和美国的MFE（MS Financial Engineering）没有可比性，侧重点更是完全不同。前者是Totally Economics-oriented。而后者，则是Highly Math&Computing-intensive的。
LSE 的FE数理计算方面严格的说甚至低于大学数学的要求，只不过有时看到的形式比较吓人而已，但这个课程只是借用那个形式的数学而已。希望能够借此更正对于这个课程广为流传的误解。当然以Economics为核心的课程上起来很有意思，感觉是“技术虽未到，思路已先到”。
事实上LSE 的MSc Fin&Econ和美国的MFE（MS Financial Engineering）没有可比性，侧重点更是完全不同。前者是Totally Economics-oriented。而后者，则是Highly Math&Computing-intensive的。
LSE 的FE数理计算方面严格的说甚至低于大学数学的要求，只不过有时看到的形式比较吓人而已，但这个课程只是借用那个形式的数学而已。希望能够借此更正对于这个课程广为流传的误解。当然以Economics为核心的课程上起来很有意思，感觉是“技术虽未到，思路已先到”。
it's a good point though i don't agree
the only difference is the former is more research oriented so i agree with ur idea that sometimes the idea goes faster than the computation
lower than the requirement of under math course? i think it depends on is it pure math course. have talked with one American pure math student and one pure physics student in my programme, the point they gave me is that LSE's pre-course didnt get enough preparation for the requirement of math.
having to point out, I totally disagree that it is an economic-oriented course. the name of courses is rather different from what are currently used in the US. e.g. the microeconomics course is almost the same as the so-called financial economics course in UIUC and financial economics course at LSE is at least in description very similar to financial engineering in UIUC
btw i'd like to see many different views here since the only i contribute my time here is trying to provide some info 4 following students to consider
pre-course(经济系的2门+金融系的1门)，我感觉已经>=之后将要实际使用的内容。那个纯数学和纯物理的，估计是认为LSE的Precourse没法满足他们个性化的求知欲吧。国外课程就是这样啊，内容框架都在这里，想走多深，走多细都看个人，所以才会有对于难度、挑战性的不同理解吧。
鉴于坛子里问这个课程的CDer可能更关心Final Exam的通过，所以我说不用担心，花里胡哨的数学在本课程的要求中只是借用形式，重要的还是Economic Intuition。
那个纯数学的和纯物理的大概想，PDE都出来了，应该讲讲怎么解吧，实际上根本不要求。看似涉及了Stochastic Calculus，可是还是围绕BM和Ito而已，难道还真的要搞明白费曼路径积分不成.
pre-course(经济系的2门+金融系的1门)，我感觉已经>=之后将要实际使用的内容。那个纯数学和纯物理的，估计是认为LSE的Precourse没法满足他们个性化的求知欲吧。国外课程就是这样啊，内容框架都在这里，想走多深，走多细都看个人，所以才会有对于难度、挑战性的不同理解吧。
鉴于坛子里问这个课程的CDer可能更关心Final Exam的通过，所以我说不用担心，花里胡哨的数学在本课程的要求中只是借用形式，重要的还是Economic Intuition。
那个纯数学的和纯物理的大概想，PDE都出来了，应该讲讲怎么解吧，实际上根本不要求。看似涉及了Stochastic Calculus，可是还是围绕BM和Ito而已，难道还真的要搞明白费曼路径积分不成.
pre-course is more economic I agree though
technically by Feynman-Kac, solve PDE or conditional expectation is almost the same and the guy who's gonna solve the derivative price might choose either of them which is more easier. More generally, u will prefer to solve conditional expectation problem that's exactly BSM does. So when the lecturer teaches u how to use Feynman-Kac to translate PDE to conditional expectation or how to use Foundamental Asset Pricing Theorem (FTAP) to find the expectation problem and then solve it. You have done. You get exactly the same answer as solve PDE technically.
Ofcourse, in practice, it is very often that both PDE and expectation are very difficult to solve and practitioners may prefer using simulation to solve the problem, honestly, that's this programme does't not cover. What a pity! I guess it should be covered in MFE in general.
Many students in FE programme prefer to use Stochastic Calculus for Finance II continuous-time models by Steven and Arbitrage Theory in Continuous Time by Tomas Bjork as the main reference text-book. I will say at least for sure the first one is widely used in MFE in the US. And almost surely the MFE doesn't require u to really understant Feynman-Kac mathematically. the logic is the requirement of perspective students in such programme is not pure math. another reasoning is that even in Steven's book which recommended for the use of master of Financial Engineering or Master of Math Finance students, Feynman-Kac is just a therom they cheated as given, no full proof in pure math is offered by the book.
for the pure math and pure physicas students i mentioned, u can say any thing I could not say yes or no here. however, i just need to mention what they both said to me "the pre-course and the Quant Finance course in summer and first term are not enough preparation for students without pure math background to understand the derivative pricing easliy"
for the final exam, really I am suffering a huge pressure from this issue, however, what i understand is that it is nothing but a great push for u to make ur inverstment valuable. So strongly recommendation is that pls dont join this programme if u just want a master degree from LSE or u r gonna be regretful for sure. Last year, around 10% students failed the degree. As far as I know, the students who only failed in Micro-Economics got a pass finanlly while the guys unfortunately failed in Financial Economics (direvative pricing course) failed the degree. So that's another reason I strongly disagree the point that it is an economic-oriented programme.
先感谢lz的热情。
听说这个专业比较重视quantitative background. 请问专业里商科背景的学生多吗？如果没有上过线性代数和计量经济学，还有没有可能被录取啊？
谢谢！
顶起来，顶起来。。。
lz快回来啊~~~~~~~
先感谢lz的热情。
听说这个专业比较重视quantitative background. 请问专业里商科背景的学生多吗？如果没有上过线性代数和计量经济学，还有没有可能被录取啊？
谢谢！
linear algebra seems to be required
U may required to take econometrics summer course
linear algebra seems to be required
U may required to take econometrics summer course
thank you for answering my question~
I didn't take linear algebra in my undergraduate studies as it was not included in our program. is that mean i am hopeless to be accepted by the program?
How many students in the program each year get some kind of funding from LSE? By funding, I mean various scholarships/ financial aid.
In general, do chinese students have to self-finance their study for this program?
期待前辈的指点
How many students in the program each year get some kind of funding from LSE? By funding, I mean various scholarships/ financial aid.
In general, do chinese students have to self-finance their study for this program?
you may try but as far as i know no chinese students got any sort of funding from LSE
thank you for answering my question~
I didn't take linear algebra in my undergraduate studies as it was not included in our program. is that mean i am hopeless to be accepted by the program?
yes or no
u should try to contact with finance department for ur information
you may try but as far as i know no chinese students got any sort of funding from LSE
I c. It should be extremely difficult for chinese student in this masters program to get funding from LSE.
Further, where does these funding go? UK/EU students got most of them? Thanks for your quick reply.
I c. It should be extremely difficult for chinese student in this masters program to get funding from LSE.
Further, where does these funding go? UK/EU students got most of them? Thanks for your quick reply.
to be honest, i dont know
it is really really intensive though it is short.. thus it is not recommented to find some intern during the programme.
As far as i know, only one guy in my programme is acturally doing some trading intern position in GS during the terms. He needs to work 20-40 hours a week and get 1000 pounds back. to be honest it is not a really good deal though the name of the company is awesome. the point is u may find it difficult to get through ur programme..
generally u will not be considered as a master student for the winter intern which is designed for 1st year undergraduate though it might be slightly different for individual company. for the summer intern u can apply for many of companies even if some of them still dont consider u unless u can demonstrate that u r gonna do another year study in campus..
good news is that a few students in my programme do get some intern positions starting from next summer. the app process starts from the 2nd term after New year holiday. Ofcourse, the course is much more intensive in the 2nd term...
my suggestion is hard working for job issue from the day u arrive london and if u r good i would say 50% u may get a full-time position before the new year, and that's exactly i get.. London is a glorous place for financial industry
however, u need to consider the job market now. the vacancies in london this year is much less compared with 2006 and nobody acturally know what's going on in 2008. it seems that the city is gonna cut 10000-50000 positions in 2008 from the total among of nearly 350,000. the situation in the US is even worse, to get job there is much harder even from some great programmes. even for summer intern.
u do need to consider the job market before u decide to study and work overseas
谢谢LZ的解答~~
LSE的MSF项目是7月份才结束的，这对于找Summer Intern是不是不利呢？我看大部分公司实习时间都是6月底开始~~
还有就是LSE一年的项目，申请暑期的Intern，公司会给面试机会么？
你上面说春节前有的人就能定下Fulltime Position，是说找到全职工作么？那是说第一学期就要开始找工作面试了么？
哈哈 想不到你还逛CD 谢谢捧场
谢谢LZ的解答~~
LSE的MSF项目是7月份才结束的，这对于找Summer Intern是不是不利呢？我看大部分公司实习时间都是6月底开始~~
还有就是LSE一年的项目，申请暑期的Intern，公司会给面试机会么？
你上面说春节前有的人就能定下Fulltime Position，是说找到全职工作么？那是说第一学期就要开始找工作面试了么？
正常情况下一年的项目一开始就找全职工作，也有人全职工作找不到接着找intern。不过绝大多数银行不考虑暑期毕业生的暑期实习。有个别2年项目交流的学生找到intern，中国人没有。
1 不了解
2 以官方材料为准
3 700-900/month 学费自己查
currently pursuing MSc Fin & Econ at LSE
willing to give anything useful for the guys who plan to join this programme
might check the forum two-day basis
no msn provided, just answer all the questions on the forum in order to share as more as possible
hope that helps
感谢，想了解该专业对GPA、IBT和GMAT的大概要求，或者说平均分数线。
想请问LSE的accouting专业如何阿？
3门课是一个学分的 上两个学期 除了microecon 其他两门都可以开成对应美国商学院上下学期共4门课程
respectfully reply to u:
know little about OX MFE... while u need to spend lots of time in coach or train to come to london for interviews...
u may have made ur choice. good luck
楼主在国内有过实习经验吗？
如果完全没有过好的实习，
在英国找到工作是不是很难，不管是不是lse这样的学校毕业？
accounting and finance 背景申请MFEcon 不知道会不会差得太远
currently pursuing MSc Fin & Econ at LSE
willing to give anything useful for the guys who plan to join this programme
might check the forum two-day basis
no msn provided, just answer all the questions on the forum in order to share as more as possible
hope that helps
本科社会科学，学过statistics /caculous/ micro / macro econ 适合这个还是FULL TIME FINANCE呢 或者MANAGEMENT?
请问LZ知道LSE能同时申多个专业吗
比如MSc Fin&Econ 和 MSF或者Risk Regulation一起申
先谢过啦
想问toefl是否available.
谢谢~
想问下看到CD上有些拿到conditional offer的情况，这种属于scholarship吗？不是说英国的master几乎没有scholarship的，难道这些就是属于那些极个别的？
如果拿到conditional offer，那么LSE的MSc F&E大概还需要多少花费呢？
这个项目今年是不是已经截止申请了呀？
请问本科计算机专业，没有经济方面双学位，被MFE ad的可能性大吗？另外能拿到offer的可能性呢？
我的基本情况是：国内两所名校之一计算机专业，gpa 不算高（3.15/4），排名刚好是median……
gmat 730+5
这种情况是不是更适合Msc finance and mathematics？可是对于这个项目我的ibt又没有达到标准107
请lz指点
谢谢您的回答。
请问您是否了解LSE大概的奖学金比例？以及没有奖学金情况下F&E项目的大致花费？
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