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作者: jennifer2003    时间: 2003-12-14 23:37
标题: OG 224 急问
Innits of the Bering Sea were in isolation from contact with Europeans longer than Aleuts or Inuits of the North Pacific and northern Alaska.
A: in isolation from contact with Eurpoeans longer than
B: isolated from contact with Eurpoeans longer than
C: in isolation from contact with Eurpoeans longer than were
D: isolated from contact with Eurpoeans longer than were
E: in isolation and without contact with Eurpoeans longer than

答案选D,我觉得应该选C的,be isolated from 应该是一个时间点的动作,不能用时间长短来修饰,in isolation from 就是一种状态,就有时间长短了,请各位帮一下我。快考了,十九号啊!
作者: 深海的小美人鱼    时间: 2003-12-15 00:18
这里 能用动词不要用 名词形式。
作者: allaneli    时间: 2003-12-15 01:53
be isolated 也可以表示一种状态。
作者: monolayer    时间: 2005-3-13 08:50

Innits were isolated, 这里表示被动,被广阔的海域或巨大的山脉isolated 了。 而in isolation 没有

这意思,我们也许可以误解为Innits自己不愿与别人来往。


作者: Avantasia    时间: 2005-4-3 14:56

但是如果用被动的话句子里面并没有明确的Agent to perform this action, 感觉上用被动不符合ETS以前的解释啊?

请教大家!!!

谢谢!!!


作者: 薰衣紫草    时间: 2005-4-4 08:46

again! 答案是比出来. 我曾不止一次看到过OG里面用被动, 且没有明显的Agent to perform this action.

关键是其他选项没有补出谓词会有歧义, 严重的歧义!!!


作者: scapier    时间: 2005-4-4 11:58
以下是引用-Aquarius-在2005-4-3 14:56:00的发言:

但是如果用被动的话句子里面并没有明确的Agent to perform this action, 感觉上用被动不符合ETS以前的解释啊?


请教大家!!!


谢谢!!!



actually, isolated is an adjective here. from longman:


isolated adjective

1 an isolated building, village etc is far away from any others
-synonym remote
  small isolated communities
  Not many people visit this isolated spot.
2 feeling alone and unable to meet or speak to other people
  Young mothers often feel isolated.
3 an isolated action, event, example etc happens only once, and is not likely to happen again
isolated incident/case/event
  olice say that last week's protest was an isolated incident


作者: 小女公子    时间: 2005-4-15 17:14

E further distorts the sense of the sentence: because with cannot idiomatically serve as the preposition for in isolation, the sentence suggests that the Bering Sea Inuits were totally isolated.

A: in isolation from contact with Eurpoeans longer than

E: in isolation and without contact with Eurpoeans longer than

我实在体会不出来这两句话有什么玄机啊……………………泪………………


作者: 薰衣紫草    时间: 2005-4-16 09:32
你不这个without加的改变原意吗?
作者: dashasha    时间: 2005-4-20 11:00
以下是引用小女公子在2005-4-15 17:14:00的发言:

E further distorts the sense of the sentence: because with cannot idiomatically serve as the preposition for in isolation, the sentence suggests that the Bering Sea Inuits were totally isolated.

A: in isolation from contact with Eurpoeans longer than

E: in isolation and without contact with Eurpoeans longer than

我实在体会不出来这两句话有什么玄机啊……………………泪………………

OG的解释The awkward phrasing of E further distorts the sense of the sentence: because with cannot idiomatically serve as the preposition for in isolation, the sentence suggests that the Bering Sea Inuits were totally isolated. 意思就是,with无法跟in isolation搭配,所以E就变成了in isolation和withou contact with Europeans两个独立的短语了,这样就distort了原句的意思,表达成"完全隔绝"和"跟欧洲没有联系"两个意思了.
作者: nbfpr007405    时间: 2005-4-22 22:46

难道是说A的意思是不完全隔绝? 还连着一部分?

谁能用中文说说上面A和E的区别啊?

我也对OG的这个解释觉得很迷惑~~~~~~~~


作者: 薰衣紫草    时间: 2005-4-23 05:44
A 中只是说isolated from 欧洲人, 但E说in isolation, 即完全隔绝.
作者: peajack    时间: 2005-4-26 16:25
统一楼上的解释,看了第二次我才体会出来。
作者: brissa    时间: 2005-9-23 23:41
以下是引用dashasha在2005-4-20 11:00:00的发言:
OG的解释The awkward phrasing of E further distorts the sense of the sentence: because with cannot idiomatically serve as the preposition for in isolation, the sentence suggests that the Bering Sea Inuits were totally isolated. 意思就是,with无法跟in isolation搭配,所以E就变成了in isolation和withou contact with Europeans两个独立的短语了,这样就distort了原句的意思,表达成"完全隔绝"和"跟欧洲没有联系"两个意思了.

这里正好问到我一个迷惑的地方,即如果with改成from或任何一个可以和in isolation搭配的介词的话,那么E的结构就是:in isolation from Europeans...and without contacts from Europeans...?简洁一点就是这种A and B with sth结构是(A and B)with sth呢?还是(A with sth) and (B with sth)?


作者: shihho    时间: 2005-11-10 13:51
up... tks...
作者: wxhd    时间: 2006-10-19 23:29

鄙人的粗解:

AC:in isolation from contact with Europeans,似乎in isolation from Europeans好一些,OG上讲该短语unidiomatic。


作者: cccccc0    时间: 2006-10-26 16:44

我还是不能体会不加were会产生歧义~~~55555

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作者: yinl    时间: 2009-7-10 23:51
以下是引用薰衣紫草在2005-4-4 8:46:00的发言:

again! 答案是比出来. 我曾不止一次看到过OG里面用被动, 且没有明显的Agent to perform this action.

关键是其他选项没有补出谓词会有歧义, 严重的歧义!!!

薰衣草姐姐,我想问一下,就B&D相比较而言,B比较的是宾语,D比较的是主语,在不了解背景知识的情况下,如果判断B有歧义,不能选

而题目的主旨是要求我们比较主语,从而选择D呢?

能否把B中出现歧义详细指导一下,呵呵,辛苦辛苦了,非常感谢!


作者: jingjing6688    时间: 2009-8-1 08:08

顶楼上啊~~~不是应该遵循A选项是么?我当时还是特意选的A,因为A表示的比较宾语,而D就改变原意了,变成主语之间的比较了..还是说这里因为不是简单的S do O than O而是S do prep O than O结构,所以必须在than后面也补出介词才能比较宾语,变成: S do prep O than prep O才行呢?这个介词的补出对于比较宾语而言是必须的么?还有这里的介词为什么要补from而不是with?






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